Navysnipe Loc: Old West

Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts

So your title for this thread is a statement, backed up by your posted link?

ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio

Navysnipe Loc: Old West

Did you read what was in the link? The U.S. government had planned to kill innocent civilians, including the sinking of a United States ship, in order to justify starting a war with Cuba. This happened in the early 60's. Do you think the current government is any different?

Navysnipe Loc: Old West

Gee thanks. I'm not really sure what I did to warrant that insult. Did you open the link and read the report?

Navysnipe Loc: Old West

Here try this. I thought I might save you all the trouble of having to read the story and the report, so I only posted the report. So, here's the story.

http://intellihub.com/2013/08/09/defense-dept-declassified-plan-to-kill-americans-and-blame-it-on-cuba/

Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts

Yes Snipe, I read the link, I wouldn't have commented had I not. If you re-read the link, you will see that they used words like "mock" and the like. When they reference the commercial plane loaded with college students; just after take off, the plane was to substituted with a "drone", while the students landed safely at another location. Even the sinking of the ship near Santiago was to be empty, and that a rescue mission to that ship could be "staged", in order to deceive the American people into agreeing that America should/could get involved in Cuba. I could go on, but I think you get my point. Not once did it/they say they would ever actually put real American people in harms way.

Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts

I'll have to get to this link later today, I'll get back to you on it.

Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts

Ok Snipe, I read this second link, as well as a couple that were linked to that link. It's just more of the same. Operation NorthWoods was a suggestion to set up a "false flag" in order to get the U.S. involved in Cuba. The operation (or) suggestion for such, was dismissed by J.F.K. and it never happened.

I'm not exactly sure where you're going with the title of your thread, not to sound disrespectful but, the title of the thread is misleading. Not one American or anyone for that matter, was ever killed, hurt, or even needing so much as a band-aid, due to the fact operation NorthWoods never came to fruition.

I'm going to ignore the references in the article, to Sandy Hook and the Boston Marathon bombing as being "false flag" events that were also stated in the article. I am very intimate with the latter event, and myself and some of my colleagues are in the middle of our own private investigation. I was very close to losing my oldest brother in that bombing, as he was posted at the finish line. Fortunately the shrapnel only hit his boots. I am focusing my anger at that, into our investigation. That's another discussion for another time perhaps.

All in all, I did learn some things from the article, and I thank you for that.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I just got here and read the second link and think that there is plenty there to hold up the use of that title. For instance, do you know that the Boston Massacre of 2013 wasn't a false flag indecent? Too much of all of it points at the possibility, for me. As far as the results of government action after Sandy Hook, I just can't not call it a false flag. In either case someone from CIA or some other government agency could have been involved and since they know psychology so well it may have been. Now, I didn't say it was more than may well have been but I do know about so many things going on to further the desires of our government. It all scares me and I don't trust many of the people involved whether they are from Boston or where.

Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts

Hey there oldroy,

Let's take this in steps, your first sentence affirms that you think/believe that the article indicated that our government did harm U.S. citizens in order to justify going into Cuba.... I failed to find any indication of this after reading about five links associated with this thread. Maybe you could point out something that I missed, because all I got were words like "pretend", "mock", "staged", fake incidents that would've harmed no one, hence "false flag" events. The events that were suggested, would've had Americans at home "think" someone was harmed in order to justify going into Cuba. Not that they factually were killed,hurt, or attacked.

Second: the marathon bombing, I too am of the mind that this was not a "false flag" event. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the one runner who had completed the race, that was near the finish line, who stated that he heard "authorities" announce over a loud speaker system before the bombs went off to "stay calm", "this is only a drill", "no need to panic". Well I interviewed this guy myself for a short period, then we scheduled a time to meet again, he never showed, gave me a false name at our first meeting, and now he's nowhere to be found. He did the same to a Boston radio station when he agreed to meet with them. As I stated earlier my colleagues and I are still investigating some strange things, but the issue of this being a "false flag" event, just can't be substantiated, and we've moved on to other issues. I can't speak on the Sandy Hook incident, I don't have any more knowledge about it than anyone who has read a newspaper.

Like you, I too don't trust the government when it comes to these things, hence why I am participating in a private investigation.

stymie

The main thing is that it didn't happen, not to say a egotistical, embarrassed John Kennedy wasn't looking for a way to overcome the Bay of Pigs incident. Little Cuba took us to the wood shed. It was a comedy of errors which was not funny at all. Looking at the date of your post this was between the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis and they were looking for a way to save face. Basically and thankfully, in an odd sort of way, the missile crisis came along and gave them that. Long story short U.S. and Russia developed a treaty the following year and wala everybody is O.K. So to answer your question, I guess we will never know. I was in the service in SAC and although not in the chain of command was loaded and waiting on the end of the runway during the Missile crisis with the engines running. That's how close we were to a nuclear war. Politics is a low down dirty business and honestly I don't put anything below a politician.