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Jun 9, 2015 16:48:28   #
Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.
 
The Transportation Security Administration granted access to SECURE airport areas to 73 aviation workers with “LINKS TO TERRORISM” according to a new report from the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General. The audit, released Monday, reveals that the TSA was unable to vet out 73 individuals with terror-related category codes because THE AGENCY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH ACCESS TO TERROR LIST INFORMATION.

“According to TSA data, these individuals were employed by major airlines, airport vendors, and other employers. TSA did not identify these individuals through its vetting operations because it is not authorized to receive all terrorism-related categories under current interagency watchlisting policy,” the redacted report reads. “TSA acknowledged that these individuals were cleared for access to secure airport areas despite representing a potential transportation security threat,” it added.

The new audit comes on the heels of another damaging Inspector General report on TSA’s security measures, which found the aviation security body was unable to detect FAKE BOMBS AND WEAPONS in 95 percent of trial runs. Revealed last week in an ABC News report, the Inspector General’s findings resulted in the Acting TSA Administrator, Melvin Carraway’s, removal from the post.

In addition to the threats posed by aviation workers with terror-ties, Monday’s report also took issue with the TSA’s handing of aviation workers’ potential CRIMINAL PASTS and/or immigration issues, noting the agency’s controls on criminal histories and immigration statuses were “LESS EFFECTIVE” than its terror-vetting.

I'm sure you will remember the Boston Marathon bombing, killing 3 (including an 8 year old boy), and wounding 264. Many wondered why the FBI overlooked the potential danger posed by now-deceased bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 after they interviewed him. According to reports, the bureau failed to find any incriminating evidence of terrorist ties. The FBI insisted that they took all the required steps that were PERMISSABLE under the law.

However, around the same time the bureau interviewed Tsarnaev, changes in the FBI training manual took place as well. The FBI’s own departmental counter-terrorism analytic lexicon was PURGED OF KEY WORDS that could reference Islamic terrorism. Words like MUSLIM, ISLAM, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, HAMAS, AND SHARIA WERE NOT MENTIONED ONCE in the FBI’s counter-terrorism lexicon afterwards.

Obama's praise of and attitude toward Islam has no limits. He has preached to us about Islam's "proud tradition of tolerance", that we should convey "our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith," that "civilization owes a debt to Islam" and that "Islam has always been part of America."

Obama's references to America also have no limits - especially when it comes to CRITICISMS:

"America has shown arrogance."
"We have not been perfect."
"At times we sought to dictate our terms."
"I would like to think that with MY ELECTION election and the early decisions that we've made, that you're starting to see SOME RESTORATION OF AMERICA'S STANDING IN THE WORLD." (ARROGANCE-101)
"All too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions
"The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history.... Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans.

And here is the man we call Commander-In-Chief - the man who should be the champion of our country. What other premier, prime minister, head of state or ayatollah have you heard disparage their own country to a foreign world leader? Why did this man hesitate to wear a flag pin or respectfully hold his hand to his heart (rather than his crotch), as our national anthem played - yet, with nothing less than ardency, describe the Islamic call to prayer as the "prettiest sound on earth."

So we are, unfortunately, left with these disturbing consequences: The borders are still open, the airports have been compromised, thousands of illegal immigrants have been released from our prisons, gangs have been given access, and our FBI has been forbidden to mention in their own training manuals any word which can be even remotely connected with terrorism.

Meanwhile, the only strategy that Obama is committed to is the one which favors any group that will offer him homage, accolades and a positive legacy.

We have been told time and again that all that is necessary is ONE FAILURE TO OVERLOOK A POTENTIAL THREAT AND WE COULD BE FACING ANOTHER 9/11 OR WORSE!!

So who, may I ask, is in charge? I thought defending American citizens was supposed to be the priority - NOT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!!

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Jun 9, 2015 17:24:13   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Everything Obama has done is political, nothing is for this country, just go back and read, what has he done to make this country stronger?



Tradition wrote:
The Transportation Security Administration granted access to SECURE airport areas to 73 aviation workers with “LINKS TO TERRORISM” according to a new report from the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General. The audit, released Monday, reveals that the TSA was unable to vet out 73 individuals with terror-related category codes because THE AGENCY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH ACCESS TO TERROR LIST INFORMATION.

“According to TSA data, these individuals were employed by major airlines, airport vendors, and other employers. TSA did not identify these individuals through its vetting operations because it is not authorized to receive all terrorism-related categories under current interagency watchlisting policy,” the redacted report reads. “TSA acknowledged that these individuals were cleared for access to secure airport areas despite representing a potential transportation security threat,” it added.

The new audit comes on the heels of another damaging Inspector General report on TSA’s security measures, which found the aviation security body was unable to detect FAKE BOMBS AND WEAPONS in 95 percent of trial runs. Revealed last week in an ABC News report, the Inspector General’s findings resulted in the Acting TSA Administrator, Melvin Carraway’s, removal from the post.

In addition to the threats posed by aviation workers with terror-ties, Monday’s report also took issue with the TSA’s handing of aviation workers’ potential CRIMINAL PASTS and/or immigration issues, noting the agency’s controls on criminal histories and immigration statuses were “LESS EFFECTIVE” than its terror-vetting.

I'm sure you will remember the Boston Marathon bombing, killing 3 (including an 8 year old boy), and wounding 264. Many wondered why the FBI overlooked the potential danger posed by now-deceased bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 after they interviewed him. According to reports, the bureau failed to find any incriminating evidence of terrorist ties. The FBI insisted that they took all the required steps that were PERMISSABLE under the law.

However, around the same time the bureau interviewed Tsarnaev, changes in the FBI training manual took place as well. The FBI’s own departmental counter-terrorism analytic lexicon was PURGED OF KEY WORDS that could reference Islamic terrorism. Words like MUSLIM, ISLAM, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, HAMAS, AND SHARIA WERE NOT MENTIONED ONCE in the FBI’s counter-terrorism lexicon afterwards.

Obama's praise of and attitude toward Islam has no limits. He has preached to us about Islam's "proud tradition of tolerance", that we should convey "our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith," that "civilization owes a debt to Islam" and that "Islam has always been part of America."

Obama's references to America also have no limits - especially when it comes to CRITICISMS:

"America has shown arrogance."
"We have not been perfect."
"At times we sought to dictate our terms."
"I would like to think that with MY ELECTION election and the early decisions that we've made, that you're starting to see SOME RESTORATION OF AMERICA'S STANDING IN THE WORLD." (ARROGANCE-101)
"All too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions
"The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history.... Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans.

And here is the man we call Commander-In-Chief - the man who should be the champion of our country. What other premier, prime minister, head of state or ayatollah have you heard disparage their own country to a foreign world leader? Why did this man hesitate to wear a flag pin or respectfully hold his hand to his heart (rather than his crotch), as our national anthem played - yet, with nothing less than ardency, describe the Islamic call to prayer as the "prettiest sound on earth."

So we are, unfortunately, left with these disturbing consequences: The borders are still open, the airports have been compromised, thousands of illegal immigrants have been released from our prisons, gangs have been given access, and our FBI has been forbidden to mention in their own training manuals any word which can be even remotely connected with terrorism.

Meanwhile, the only strategy that Obama is committed to is the one which favors any group that will offer him homage, accolades and a positive legacy.

We have been told time and again that all that is necessary is ONE FAILURE TO OVERLOOK A POTENTIAL THREAT AND WE COULD BE FACING ANOTHER 9/11 OR WORSE!!

So who, may I ask, is in charge? I thought defending American citizens was supposed to be the priority - NOT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!!
The Transportation Security Administration granted... (show quote)

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Jun 10, 2015 01:29:18   #
Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.
 
bmac32 wrote:
Everything Obama has done is political, nothing is for this country, just go back and read, what has he done to make this country stronger?



As each day goes by and another of Obama's actions is revealed, his real prejudice toward our country becomes more apparent. His attitude about Congress possibly repealing his Obamacare debacle was as snarky and arrogant as I have ever heard him. When a reporter asked him if he had a Plan B should the repeal go through, he insolently answered that it was unnecessary because Obamacare DIDN'T NEED A PLAN B. (LOL)

Can you imagine? Obamacare was Barry's signature piece of legislation. We were PROMISED the continuation of insurance policies we liked, doctors we trusted, and a a decrease in premiums. We were MANDATED a train wreck of a web site, which reached the astronomical cost of ONE BILLION DOLLARS; cancellations of MILLIONS of policies; doctors we trusted who are not affiliated with the exchanges; inadequate to non-existent security of our personal medical information; unvetted felons, hired as "navigators," receiving our most personal information; insurance premiums raised to punitive heights; incredibly exhorbitant deductibles; increased co-pays; and millions of dollars in TV ads to promote the miserable fiasco.

Then came a real KICK IN THE TEETH - the ultimate insult - when the Obamacare MIT technical consultant to the Obama Administration, architect Jonathan Gruber, admitted that "LACK OF TRANSPARENCY was a major part of getting Obamacare passed." "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the STUPIDITY of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass."

bmac - Now that's the stuff that makes me want to scream!!! The fact that Obama and his cohorts deliberately composed a tortured, massive bill (which not even members of Congress read) in order to make fools of us all. Where was his integrity? In how many speeches did he mention that his would be the most transparent administration ever? LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.

You're so right bmac. What has he done to make this country stronger? Our allies don't trust us. Our enemies mock us. Our country is more divided than it ever was and it's not because of our citizens - if it were, protesters wouldn't need to be funded by billionaire Marxists, like Barry's friend, George Soros. We are being propagandized into turning on the police - the very men and women who put their lives on the line to protect us at home. It is also becoming more and more obvious that we are being incited into rebellion and disorder. Our America is purposefully, and with malice, being pulled apart, bmac - and it's heartbreaking.

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Jun 10, 2015 08:34:24   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
It's not that he doesn't need a plan B he doesn't want a plan B as that would show sign of weakness. Then he goes on and says every President has gone to these extremes, I have never seen one party lock the other out and pass a bill not even read. He is nothing more than a dictator wanna-be.



Tradition wrote:
As each day goes by and another of Obama's actions is revealed, his real prejudice toward our country becomes more apparent. His attitude about Congress possibly repealing his Obamacare debacle was as snarky and arrogant as I have ever heard him. When a reporter asked him if he had a Plan B should the repeal go through, he insolently answered that it was unnecessary because Obamacare DIDN'T NEED A PLAN B. (LOL)

Can you imagine? Obamacare was Barry's signature piece of legislation. We were PROMISED the continuation of insurance policies we liked, doctors we trusted, and a a decrease in premiums. We were MANDATED a train wreck of a web site, which reached the astronomical cost of ONE BILLION DOLLARS; cancellations of MILLIONS of policies; doctors we trusted who are not affiliated with the exchanges; inadequate to non-existent security of our personal medical information; unvetted felons, hired as "navigators," receiving our most personal information; insurance premiums raised to punitive heights; incredibly exhorbitant deductibles; increased co-pays; and millions of dollars in TV ads to promote the miserable fiasco.

Then came a real KICK IN THE TEETH - the ultimate insult - when the Obamacare MIT technical consultant to the Obama Administration, architect Jonathan Gruber, admitted that "LACK OF TRANSPARENCY was a major part of getting Obamacare passed." "Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the STUPIDITY of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical for the thing to pass."

bmac - Now that's the stuff that makes me want to scream!!! The fact that Obama and his cohorts deliberately composed a tortured, massive bill (which not even members of Congress read) in order to make fools of us all. Where was his integrity? In how many speeches did he mention that his would be the most transparent administration ever? LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.

You're so right bmac. What has he done to make this country stronger? Our allies don't trust us. Our enemies mock us. Our country is more divided than it ever was and it's not because of our citizens - if it were, protesters wouldn't need to be funded by billionaire Marxists, like Barry's friend, George Soros. We are being propagandized into turning on the police - the very men and women who put their lives on the line to protect us at home. It is also becoming more and more obvious that we are being incited into rebellion and disorder. Our America is purposefully, and with malice, being pulled apart, bmac - and it's heartbreaking.
As each day goes by and another of Obama's actions... (show quote)

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Jun 10, 2015 08:50:48   #
Radiance3
 
Tradition wrote:
The Transportation Security Administration granted access to SECURE airport areas to 73 aviation workers with “LINKS TO TERRORISM” according to a new report from the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General. The audit, released Monday, reveals that the TSA was unable to vet out 73 individuals with terror-related category codes because THE AGENCY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH ACCESS TO TERROR LIST INFORMATION.

“According to TSA data, these individuals were employed by major airlines, airport vendors, and other employers. TSA did not identify these individuals through its vetting operations because it is not authorized to receive all terrorism-related categories under current interagency watchlisting policy,” the redacted report reads. “TSA acknowledged that these individuals were cleared for access to secure airport areas despite representing a potential transportation security threat,” it added.

The new audit comes on the heels of another damaging Inspector General report on TSA’s security measures, which found the aviation security body was unable to detect FAKE BOMBS AND WEAPONS in 95 percent of trial runs. Revealed last week in an ABC News report, the Inspector General’s findings resulted in the Acting TSA Administrator, Melvin Carraway’s, removal from the post.

In addition to the threats posed by aviation workers with terror-ties, Monday’s report also took issue with the TSA’s handing of aviation workers’ potential CRIMINAL PASTS and/or immigration issues, noting the agency’s controls on criminal histories and immigration statuses were “LESS EFFECTIVE” than its terror-vetting.

I'm sure you will remember the Boston Marathon bombing, killing 3 (including an 8 year old boy), and wounding 264. Many wondered why the FBI overlooked the potential danger posed by now-deceased bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 after they interviewed him. According to reports, the bureau failed to find any incriminating evidence of terrorist ties. The FBI insisted that they took all the required steps that were PERMISSABLE under the law.

However, around the same time the bureau interviewed Tsarnaev, changes in the FBI training manual took place as well. The FBI’s own departmental counter-terrorism analytic lexicon was PURGED OF KEY WORDS that could reference Islamic terrorism. Words like MUSLIM, ISLAM, MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD, HAMAS, AND SHARIA WERE NOT MENTIONED ONCE in the FBI’s counter-terrorism lexicon afterwards.

Obama's praise of and attitude toward Islam has no limits. He has preached to us about Islam's "proud tradition of tolerance", that we should convey "our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith," that "civilization owes a debt to Islam" and that "Islam has always been part of America."

Obama's references to America also have no limits - especially when it comes to CRITICISMS:

"America has shown arrogance."
"We have not been perfect."
"At times we sought to dictate our terms."
"I would like to think that with MY ELECTION election and the early decisions that we've made, that you're starting to see SOME RESTORATION OF AMERICA'S STANDING IN THE WORLD." (ARROGANCE-101)
"All too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions
"The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history.... Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans.

And here is the man we call Commander-In-Chief - the man who should be the champion of our country. What other premier, prime minister, head of state or ayatollah have you heard disparage their own country to a foreign world leader? Why did this man hesitate to wear a flag pin or respectfully hold his hand to his heart (rather than his crotch), as our national anthem played - yet, with nothing less than ardency, describe the Islamic call to prayer as the "prettiest sound on earth."

So we are, unfortunately, left with these disturbing consequences: The borders are still open, the airports have been compromised, thousands of illegal immigrants have been released from our prisons, gangs have been given access, and our FBI has been forbidden to mention in their own training manuals any word which can be even remotely connected with terrorism.

Meanwhile, the only strategy that Obama is committed to is the one which favors any group that will offer him homage, accolades and a positive legacy.

We have been told time and again that all that is necessary is ONE FAILURE TO OVERLOOK A POTENTIAL THREAT AND WE COULD BE FACING ANOTHER 9/11 OR WORSE!!

So who, may I ask, is in charge? I thought defending American citizens was supposed to be the priority - NOT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!!
The Transportation Security Administration granted... (show quote)

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The American people are so trusting, and complacent about how our government is run since 2009.
Are we really safe under our present situation? I think with all the suspicious elements over how our country is being run, you and I must be vigilant. I feel something is not right, something underground is on the making.

Government agencies no longer report or work for the people. They do things totally in control of power, that undermines the peoples' representation under democracy.
These agencies have turned to rule over the people, instead of them working for the people. Have you noticed that?

E.g. 1. The IRS, EPA, the Homeland Security, the State Department, wherein illegal immigration is out of control, and now becomes more powerful than the law itself.

The National Security now has agents run by Muslim assigned in disguise to protect us.

The TSA has employed 73 agents who could facilitate transporting to the US radical Muslims to multiply its population, and planned take over, without being contained or prevented.

The Medical insurance now is run under the dictates of one party, and the people who pay taxes, and entitled to benefit are the ones deprived of its service.

The Armed Forces Dept. with 197 general and officers removed, now is not run by our general experts, but by the dictates of a president at his wishes. As a result, America has suffered major blows and losses, over the world, our country now about to be taken by Muslim radicals training for jihad under our noses, have powerful and populated cells all over the US without being controlled.

The EPA, out of control, have the power to hire paid scientists to prepare reports that are fake, and to misled the people. The reports portrayed that US is the greatest polluter of the world, and therefore must stop or contain the expansions of US business organizations. But the US has allowed China the greatest polluter of the world to continue polluting without punishment.

I am very sad. I can feel the journey of destructions of our country is under way. I can feel the differences how our country was before 2009, and now. Please America, wake up. don't buy those misleading deceptions by providing you lifetime free bees by the government for your comfort. Earn your self-respect and dignity. The trick you are getting is process whereby you will be controlled for life.

May God bless and lead us and our children to the right direction.

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Jun 10, 2015 17:30:49   #
Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The American people are so trusting, and complacent about how our government is run since 2009.
Are we really safe under our present situation? I think with all the suspicious elements over how our country is being run, you and I must be vigilant. I feel something is not right, something underground is on the making.

Government agencies no longer report or work for the people. They do things totally in control of power, that undermines the peoples' representation under democracy.
These agencies have turned to rule over the people, instead of them working for the people. Have you noticed that?

E.g. 1. The IRS, EPA, the Homeland Security, the State Department, wherein illegal immigration is out of control, and now becomes more powerful than the law itself.

The National Security now has agents run by Muslim assigned in disguise to protect us.

The TSA has employed 73 agents who could facilitate transporting to the US radical Muslims to multiply its population, and planned take over, without being contained or prevented.

The Medical insurance now is run under the dictates of one party, and the people who pay taxes, and entitled to benefit are the ones deprived of its service.

The Armed Forces Dept. with 197 general and officers removed, now is not run by our general experts, but by the dictates of a president at his wishes. As a result, America has suffered major blows and losses, over the world, our country now about to be taken by Muslim radicals training for jihad under our noses, have powerful and populated cells all over the US without being controlled.

The EPA, out of control, have the power to hire paid scientists to prepare reports that are fake, and to misled the people. The reports portrayed that US is the greatest polluter of the world, and therefore must stop or contain the expansions of US business organizations. But the US has allowed China the greatest polluter of the world to continue polluting without punishment.

I am very sad. I can feel the journey of destructions of our country is under way. I can feel the differences how our country was before 2009, and now. Please America, wake up. don't buy those misleading deceptions by providing you lifetime free bees by the government for your comfort. Earn your self-respect and dignity. The trick you are getting is process whereby you will be controlled for life.

May God bless and lead us and our children to the right direction.
================= br The American people are so tr... (show quote)


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"I can feel the journey of destructions of our country is under way."
You and me both!!

I am not an alarmist, nor am I a conspiracy theorist, but I have felt the same apprehension for quite a while. Too many suspicious actions, Radiance - too many unanswered questions - too many LIES!!

The US military has quietly added more states to its eight-week Jade Helm joint training drill, originally designated to take place in seven southwestern states. Speaking of the exercise at the Brazos County Commissioners Court in Texas last month, Jade Helm Operations Planner and retired Green Beret Thomas Mead told an audience that the drill, which will run from July 15 to September 15, will now include the states Mississippi and Florida. A local Standard-Times report also lists “Louisiana” as one of the participating states.

“The exercise is actually an eight-week exercise taking place across seven states,” Mead explains. “It spans the whole southwest of the United States. We’ve also added Mississippi and we have a group also working out of Florida.” “We’ll have Navy Seals that’ll be conducting targets and training down in the Mississippi area,” Mead also says. The interagency, unconventional warfare exercise, lasting eight weeks, will utilize 1,200 special forces personnel from multiple branches of the US military, including Army Green Berets, Navy Seals, Marine Special Operations Command and the 82nd Airborne Division, according to a Powerpoint presentation regarding the exercise.

The exercise serves to hone troops’ advanced skills in “large areas of undeveloped land with low population densities,” and will allow them to work alongside “civilians to GAIN THEIR TRUST and an understanding of the issues.” “This allows our soldiers to get a better training environment."

Additionally, two states – Texas and Utah – appear highlighted as “hostile” territory, according to the slideshow, leading to fears that traditionally CONSERVATIVE areas may be a simulated target for future domestic operations.

The U.S. Army has even built a mock American city in Virginia, complete with subway carriages carrying the exact same logo as those seen in Washington DC, to practice occupying urban areas.
Although similar drills have been carried out domestically in the past, such exercises are increasingly being conducted among civilian populations, suggesting an attempt to ACCLIMATE AND CONDITION THE PUBLIC TO A PERSISTENT MILITARY PRESENCE.

In the past few years alone, the US Army has carried out numerous drills in American cities, with low flying “black helicopters” disturbing residents of Minnesota, buzzing residents of Dallas and frightening Miami residents with simulated gunfire.

As domestic drills intensify in frequency, military "scholars" have begun publicly laying out scenarios in which troops would be used to TARGET POLITICAL GROUPS, SUCH AS "THE TEA PARTY. "A 2012 report from the Small Wars Journal entitled, “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A ‘Vision’ of the Future,” even conceptualizes “How the U.S. Military would crush a Tea Party rebellion.” (OF COURSE, WE MUST CRUSH THOSE TEA PARTY PEOPLE!!! JUST LOOK AT ALL THE PROTESTS, RIOTS, LOOTING, AND MURDERS THEY HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED!! WHAT A CROCK!!!)

Eighteen percent of Americans identify as Tea Party supporters. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM - 89 percent -- ARE WHITE. JUST ONE PERCENT ARE BLACK. (DOES THAT CLEAR UP ANY DOUBT AS TO WHY THEY ARE THE "TARGET?") They tend to skew older: Three in four are 45 years old or older, including 29 PERCENT WHO ARE 65 PLUS. They are also more likely to be men (59 percent) than women (41 percent).
MORE THAN HALF (54 PERCENT) IDENTIFY AS REPUBLICANS, and another 41 percent say they are Independents. Just five percent call themselves Democrats, compared to 31 percent of adults nationwide.
NEARLY THREE IN FOUR DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS CONSERVATIVE, AND 39 PERCENT CALL THEMSELVES VERY CONSERVATIVE. (SURPRISE!! SURPRISE!!)

More than three in four Tea Party supporters (78 percent) have never attended a rally or donated to a group; most have also not visited a Tea Party Web site. (WE BETTER WATCH OUT!!! THESE FOLKS ARE REALLY RADICAL!!)

They are more likely than American adults overall to attend religious services weekly (38 percent do so) Sixty-one percent are Protestant, and another 22 percent are Catholic.

The increasing shift towards targeting domestic political movements should be troublesome not only to the American public, but to MILITARY PERSONNEL who have been labeled a MAJOR TERROR THREAT BY THE DHS.

BTW - Why has the Department of Homeland Security recently ordered 2700 armored personnel carriers, and a total of 2.2 BILLION bullets, the majority of which are hollow points and buckshot? What are they preparing for? Civil War? These kinds of bullets are not used for target practice. Why Is Obama Transferring Intelligence Gathering on American Citizens from the NSA to the DHS?

So many questions, Radiance. We have every right and reason to suspect chicanery and deception. Of course we KNOW, in lieu of Obamacare MIT architect, Jonathon Gruber's admission, that Obama is not above deliberately perpetrating a lack of transparency, or sending out Susan Rice to purposely lie about Benghazi, or promising millions of our citizens that they will be able to keep their preferred insurance and trusted doctors.

It's not the two of us who should be questioned for veracity and motive - it is the man who won the award for LIE OF THE YEAR!!

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Jun 11, 2015 10:37:58   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I truly hope not but if their are you can sure Russia and/or China is watching very closely and could well join the fight, making us into a new nation!



Tradition wrote:
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"I can feel the journey of destructions of our country is under way."
You and me both!!

I am not an alarmist, nor am I a conspiracy theorist, but I have felt the same apprehension for quite a while. Too many suspicious actions, Radiance - too many unanswered questions - too many LIES!!

The US military has quietly added more states to its eight-week Jade Helm joint training drill, originally designated to take place in seven southwestern states. Speaking of the exercise at the Brazos County Commissioners Court in Texas last month, Jade Helm Operations Planner and retired Green Beret Thomas Mead told an audience that the drill, which will run from July 15 to September 15, will now include the states Mississippi and Florida. A local Standard-Times report also lists “Louisiana” as one of the participating states.

“The exercise is actually an eight-week exercise taking place across seven states,” Mead explains. “It spans the whole southwest of the United States. We’ve also added Mississippi and we have a group also working out of Florida.” “We’ll have Navy Seals that’ll be conducting targets and training down in the Mississippi area,” Mead also says. The interagency, unconventional warfare exercise, lasting eight weeks, will utilize 1,200 special forces personnel from multiple branches of the US military, including Army Green Berets, Navy Seals, Marine Special Operations Command and the 82nd Airborne Division, according to a Powerpoint presentation regarding the exercise.

The exercise serves to hone troops’ advanced skills in “large areas of undeveloped land with low population densities,” and will allow them to work alongside “civilians to GAIN THEIR TRUST and an understanding of the issues.” “This allows our soldiers to get a better training environment."

Additionally, two states – Texas and Utah – appear highlighted as “hostile” territory, according to the slideshow, leading to fears that traditionally CONSERVATIVE areas may be a simulated target for future domestic operations.

The U.S. Army has even built a mock American city in Virginia, complete with subway carriages carrying the exact same logo as those seen in Washington DC, to practice occupying urban areas.
Although similar drills have been carried out domestically in the past, such exercises are increasingly being conducted among civilian populations, suggesting an attempt to ACCLIMATE AND CONDITION THE PUBLIC TO A PERSISTENT MILITARY PRESENCE.

In the past few years alone, the US Army has carried out numerous drills in American cities, with low flying “black helicopters” disturbing residents of Minnesota, buzzing residents of Dallas and frightening Miami residents with simulated gunfire.

As domestic drills intensify in frequency, military "scholars" have begun publicly laying out scenarios in which troops would be used to TARGET POLITICAL GROUPS, SUCH AS "THE TEA PARTY. "A 2012 report from the Small Wars Journal entitled, “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A ‘Vision’ of the Future,” even conceptualizes “How the U.S. Military would crush a Tea Party rebellion.” (OF COURSE, WE MUST CRUSH THOSE TEA PARTY PEOPLE!!! JUST LOOK AT ALL THE PROTESTS, RIOTS, LOOTING, AND MURDERS THEY HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED!! WHAT A CROCK!!!)

Eighteen percent of Americans identify as Tea Party supporters. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM - 89 percent -- ARE WHITE. JUST ONE PERCENT ARE BLACK. (DOES THAT CLEAR UP ANY DOUBT AS TO WHY THEY ARE THE "TARGET?") They tend to skew older: Three in four are 45 years old or older, including 29 PERCENT WHO ARE 65 PLUS. They are also more likely to be men (59 percent) than women (41 percent).
MORE THAN HALF (54 PERCENT) IDENTIFY AS REPUBLICANS, and another 41 percent say they are Independents. Just five percent call themselves Democrats, compared to 31 percent of adults nationwide.
NEARLY THREE IN FOUR DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS CONSERVATIVE, AND 39 PERCENT CALL THEMSELVES VERY CONSERVATIVE. (SURPRISE!! SURPRISE!!)

More than three in four Tea Party supporters (78 percent) have never attended a rally or donated to a group; most have also not visited a Tea Party Web site. (WE BETTER WATCH OUT!!! THESE FOLKS ARE REALLY RADICAL!!)

They are more likely than American adults overall to attend religious services weekly (38 percent do so) Sixty-one percent are Protestant, and another 22 percent are Catholic.

The increasing shift towards targeting domestic political movements should be troublesome not only to the American public, but to MILITARY PERSONNEL who have been labeled a MAJOR TERROR THREAT BY THE DHS.

BTW - Why has the Department of Homeland Security recently ordered 2700 armored personnel carriers, and a total of 2.2 BILLION bullets, the majority of which are hollow points and buckshot? What are they preparing for? Civil War? These kinds of bullets are not used for target practice. Why Is Obama Transferring Intelligence Gathering on American Citizens from the NSA to the DHS?

So many questions, Radiance. We have every right and reason to suspect chicanery and deception. Of course we KNOW, in lieu of Obamacare MIT architect, Jonathon Gruber's admission, that Obama is not above deliberately perpetrating a lack of transparency, or sending out Susan Rice to purposely lie about Benghazi, or promising millions of our citizens that they will be able to keep their preferred insurance and trusted doctors.

It's not the two of us who should be questioned for veracity and motive - it is the man who won the award for LIE OF THE YEAR!!
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Jun 11, 2015 13:19:28   #
Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.
 
bmac32 wrote:
I truly hope not but if their are you can sure Russia and/or China is watching very closely and could well join the fight, making us into a new nation!


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bmac - As you know, Russia and China are not Democracies. Communism, with more sophisticated methods of machinations and subterfuge, is still present in both countries. Your concerns are certainly valid and we should be extremely vigilant regarding them.

For instance:

China's deploying surveillance ships to Hawaii during a US-led Navy exercise and THIS MONTH'S revelation that the personal records of 4 MILLION current and former federal workers were accessed by a massive hack, and were traced to China. was a wake-up call we shouldn’t have needed. The target of the cyber-hit was the Office of Personnel Management, and US officials pointed immediately to Chinese hackers. And it was yet another sign of the vulnerability of the digital era: The speed of technological advancement outpaced our ability to secure information, giving hackers — and the governments they’re often sponsored by — a head start.

As to Russia: During a visit to Tehran by the Russian defense minister this past January, Iran and Russia signed an agreement to EXPAND MILITARY TIES. Sergei Shoigu, in remarks carried by Russian news agencies, said Moscow wants to develop a "long-term and multifaceted" military relationship with Iran. He said that the new agreement includes expanded counter-terrorism cooperation, exchanges of military personnel for training purposes and an understanding for each country's navy to more frequently use the other's ports.

Iran's Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan urged greater cooperation as a means of OPPOSING AMERICAN AMBITIONS in the region. Moscow and Tehran have staunchly supported Syrian President Bashar Assad throughout Syria's civil war, while WASHINGTON ADVOCATES REGIME CHANGE AND SUPPORTS REBEL GROUPS. "Iran and Russia are able to confront the expansionist intervention and greed of the United States through cooperation, synergy and activating strategic potential capacities," Dehghan said. "As two neighbors, Iran and Russia have COMMON VIEWPOINTS toward political, regional and global issues." Russia has maintained friendly ties with Iran and has built its first NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. Last fall, it signed a deal to build two more reactors in Iran.

I'm hoping that a new U.S. Administration may offer us more time to prepare for the eventuality of a really tragic conflict. Looking through rose-colored glasses? I don't know, bmac. What I do know, by virtue of their actions, is that both China and Russia do not fear the U.S. - not with Obama in charge.

What concerns me more, in the short term, is the division within our own borders. I had definite suspicions, but the revelation that the recent protests were being funded, was all the irrefutable evidence I needed. What this actually reveals is that these protests are part of a blueprint devised and implemented by EVIL ORGANIZERS who wish to foment anger and severance between America's blacks and whites and America's police and blacks. When you consider what our country has gone through - losing our brave soldiers to their ultimate sacrifice, to the loss of their limbs, to PTSD - to what we went through on 9/11 - IT IS DESPICABLE that anyone would revel in, and encourage, more anger and grief to be suffered by our citizens - and yet it is happening - and the people responsible should be realized, rebuked and rejected by us all.

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Jun 11, 2015 15:42:43   #
Radiance3
 
Tradition wrote:
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"I can feel the journey of destructions of our country is under way."
You and me both!!

I am not an alarmist, nor am I a conspiracy theorist, but I have felt the same apprehension for quite a while. Too many suspicious actions, Radiance - too many unanswered questions - too many LIES!!

The US military has quietly added more states to its eight-week Jade Helm joint training drill, originally designated to take place in seven southwestern states. Speaking of the exercise at the Brazos County Commissioners Court in Texas last month, Jade Helm Operations Planner and retired Green Beret Thomas Mead told an audience that the drill, which will run from July 15 to September 15, will now include the states Mississippi and Florida. A local Standard-Times report also lists “Louisiana” as one of the participating states.

“The exercise is actually an eight-week exercise taking place across seven states,” Mead explains. “It spans the whole southwest of the United States. We’ve also added Mississippi and we have a group also working out of Florida.” “We’ll have Navy Seals that’ll be conducting targets and training down in the Mississippi area,” Mead also says. The interagency, unconventional warfare exercise, lasting eight weeks, will utilize 1,200 special forces personnel from multiple branches of the US military, including Army Green Berets, Navy Seals, Marine Special Operations Command and the 82nd Airborne Division, according to a Powerpoint presentation regarding the exercise.

The exercise serves to hone troops’ advanced skills in “large areas of undeveloped land with low population densities,” and will allow them to work alongside “civilians to GAIN THEIR TRUST and an understanding of the issues.” “This allows our soldiers to get a better training environment."

Additionally, two states – Texas and Utah – appear highlighted as “hostile” territory, according to the slideshow, leading to fears that traditionally CONSERVATIVE areas may be a simulated target for future domestic operations.

The U.S. Army has even built a mock American city in Virginia, complete with subway carriages carrying the exact same logo as those seen in Washington DC, to practice occupying urban areas.
Although similar drills have been carried out domestically in the past, such exercises are increasingly being conducted among civilian populations, suggesting an attempt to ACCLIMATE AND CONDITION THE PUBLIC TO A PERSISTENT MILITARY PRESENCE.

In the past few years alone, the US Army has carried out numerous drills in American cities, with low flying “black helicopters” disturbing residents of Minnesota, buzzing residents of Dallas and frightening Miami residents with simulated gunfire.

As domestic drills intensify in frequency, military "scholars" have begun publicly laying out scenarios in which troops would be used to TARGET POLITICAL GROUPS, SUCH AS "THE TEA PARTY. "A 2012 report from the Small Wars Journal entitled, “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A ‘Vision’ of the Future,” even conceptualizes “How the U.S. Military would crush a Tea Party rebellion.” (OF COURSE, WE MUST CRUSH THOSE TEA PARTY PEOPLE!!! JUST LOOK AT ALL THE PROTESTS, RIOTS, LOOTING, AND MURDERS THEY HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED!! WHAT A CROCK!!!)

Eighteen percent of Americans identify as Tea Party supporters. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM - 89 percent -- ARE WHITE. JUST ONE PERCENT ARE BLACK. (DOES THAT CLEAR UP ANY DOUBT AS TO WHY THEY ARE THE "TARGET?") They tend to skew older: Three in four are 45 years old or older, including 29 PERCENT WHO ARE 65 PLUS. They are also more likely to be men (59 percent) than women (41 percent).
MORE THAN HALF (54 PERCENT) IDENTIFY AS REPUBLICANS, and another 41 percent say they are Independents. Just five percent call themselves Democrats, compared to 31 percent of adults nationwide.
NEARLY THREE IN FOUR DESCRIBE THEMSELVES AS CONSERVATIVE, AND 39 PERCENT CALL THEMSELVES VERY CONSERVATIVE. (SURPRISE!! SURPRISE!!)

More than three in four Tea Party supporters (78 percent) have never attended a rally or donated to a group; most have also not visited a Tea Party Web site. (WE BETTER WATCH OUT!!! THESE FOLKS ARE REALLY RADICAL!!)

They are more likely than American adults overall to attend religious services weekly (38 percent do so) Sixty-one percent are Protestant, and another 22 percent are Catholic.

The increasing shift towards targeting domestic political movements should be troublesome not only to the American public, but to MILITARY PERSONNEL who have been labeled a MAJOR TERROR THREAT BY THE DHS.

BTW - Why has the Department of Homeland Security recently ordered 2700 armored personnel carriers, and a total of 2.2 BILLION bullets, the majority of which are hollow points and buckshot? What are they preparing for? Civil War? These kinds of bullets are not used for target practice. Why Is Obama Transferring Intelligence Gathering on American Citizens from the NSA to the DHS?

So many questions, Radiance. We have every right and reason to suspect chicanery and deception. Of course we KNOW, in lieu of Obamacare MIT architect, Jonathon Gruber's admission, that Obama is not above deliberately perpetrating a lack of transparency, or sending out Susan Rice to purposely lie about Benghazi, or promising millions of our citizens that they will be able to keep their preferred insurance and trusted doctors.

It's not the two of us who should be questioned for veracity and motive - it is the man who won the award for LIE OF THE YEAR!!
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Every time democrats open their mouths, it spews LIES. There is nothing credible they could produce but lies. These lies they proclaim daily are embedded in their brains. Therefore they believe the lies to be true.

People are hypnotized by the spell of demonic lies. Muslims and demons lie so much to mislead their enemies. They populate their party with low brainers to be easily hypnotized and so they obey and follow them.

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Jun 11, 2015 15:48:18   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
If and I say IF an attack comes from within no telling what groups may band together. China is more of a worry to me, if they make all debt due now we don't have the money and there is no one else to borrow it from. China has expanded their military greatly over the last ten years.

The Russia Iran thing makes sense, Russia for years has had problems within their borders with terrorists so they maybe be looking to curb that on a larger scale. The Russia people don't hate us but Putin sure ain't no friend.



Tradition wrote:
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bmac - As you know, Russia and China are not Democracies. Communism, with more sophisticated methods of machinations and subterfuge, is still present in both countries. Your concerns are certainly valid and we should be extremely vigilant regarding them.

For instance:

China's deploying surveillance ships to Hawaii during a US-led Navy exercise and THIS MONTH'S revelation that the personal records of 4 MILLION current and former federal workers were accessed by a massive hack, and were traced to China. was a wake-up call we shouldn’t have needed. The target of the cyber-hit was the Office of Personnel Management, and US officials pointed immediately to Chinese hackers. And it was yet another sign of the vulnerability of the digital era: The speed of technological advancement outpaced our ability to secure information, giving hackers — and the governments they’re often sponsored by — a head start.

As to Russia: During a visit to Tehran by the Russian defense minister this past January, Iran and Russia signed an agreement to EXPAND MILITARY TIES. Sergei Shoigu, in remarks carried by Russian news agencies, said Moscow wants to develop a "long-term and multifaceted" military relationship with Iran. He said that the new agreement includes expanded counter-terrorism cooperation, exchanges of military personnel for training purposes and an understanding for each country's navy to more frequently use the other's ports.

Iran's Defense Minister Hossein Dehghan urged greater cooperation as a means of OPPOSING AMERICAN AMBITIONS in the region. Moscow and Tehran have staunchly supported Syrian President Bashar Assad throughout Syria's civil war, while WASHINGTON ADVOCATES REGIME CHANGE AND SUPPORTS REBEL GROUPS. "Iran and Russia are able to confront the expansionist intervention and greed of the United States through cooperation, synergy and activating strategic potential capacities," Dehghan said. "As two neighbors, Iran and Russia have COMMON VIEWPOINTS toward political, regional and global issues." Russia has maintained friendly ties with Iran and has built its first NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. Last fall, it signed a deal to build two more reactors in Iran.

I'm hoping that a new U.S. Administration may offer us more time to prepare for the eventuality of a really tragic conflict. Looking through rose-colored glasses? I don't know, bmac. What I do know, by virtue of their actions, is that both China and Russia do not fear the U.S. - not with Obama in charge.

What concerns me more, in the short term, is the division within our own borders. I had definite suspicions, but the revelation that the recent protests were being funded, was all the irrefutable evidence I needed. What this actually reveals is that these protests are part of a blueprint devised and implemented by EVIL ORGANIZERS who wish to foment anger and severance between America's blacks and whites and America's police and blacks. When you consider what our country has gone through - losing our brave soldiers to their ultimate sacrifice, to the loss of their limbs, to PTSD - to what we went through on 9/11 - IT IS DESPICABLE that anyone would revel in, and encourage, more anger and grief to be suffered by our citizens - and yet it is happening - and the people responsible should be realized, rebuked and rejected by us all.
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Jun 11, 2015 17:47:10   #
Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.
 
bmac32 wrote:
If and I say IF an attack comes from within no telling what groups may band together. China is more of a worry to me, if they make all debt due now we don't have the money and there is no one else to borrow it from. China has expanded their military greatly over the last ten years.

The Russia Iran thing makes sense, Russia for years has had problems within their borders with terrorists so they maybe be looking to curb that on a larger scale. The Russia people don't hate us but Putin sure ain't no friend.
If and I say IF an attack comes from within no tel... (show quote)

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Either alternative is a sad testament to where we are and what we are leaving for our children. I keep asking myself how we got here. My answer always seems to place me on a path to the White House.

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Jun 12, 2015 09:07:09   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Remember right after 9-11 and how both parties came together? Even though bin Laden is dead he's got this way!



Tradition wrote:
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Either alternative is a sad testament to where we are and what we are leaving for our children. I keep asking myself how we got here. My answer always seems to place me on a path to the White House.

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Jun 12, 2015 15:33:44   #
Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.
 
bmac32 wrote:
Remember right after 9-11 and how both parties came together? Even though bin Laden is dead he's got this way!


How sad is that? And yes, I'll never forget 9/11. I live in New York, as do both of my sons. They were working in Manhattan on that terrible day - my younger son worked one block from the WTC. I spent several anguish-filled hours until I heard his voice.

The looks of fear and shock on the faces of the people who looked up, as those iconic towers fell, will stay with me forever. My loved ones came home to me, bmac. So many others were not as fortunate.

I consider myself a compassionate person. I had never felt hatred for anyone - until 9/11. When I learned that the radical Muslims who committed suicide on that day assumed they would be "rewarded" by defiling numerous virgins on the "other side," it certainly did not mitigate my outrage. These men were barbaric cowards who killed innocents unable and unprepared to defend themselves - children, people traveling, or merely going to work - with no guns and no weapons.

There was only one positive thing that happened on that day. Flags were flying everwhere. We were not divisible - we were all Americans - bound together with a unity of purpose - to bring to justice those who had perpetrated this atrocity on our family, friends and neighbors.

I remember how we cheered as firemen and women - and the police - were heading toward, and coming from, Ground Zero - after sifting through the rubble to find their brothers and any possible survivors. We applauded them because we remembered their incredible bravery on that fateful day, as they steadfastly walked toward the towers to render assistance, while civilians were running away to escape the horror and carnage.

Now look at what has happened to us. The police still come when they are needed, but they don't even get the respect of compliance to their directions. Racism is blamed - but none of these recent incidents would have happened had the victims not resisted arrest - none of them. TRAGEDIES HAPPEN WHEN RESPECT FOR AUTHORITY IS IGNORED. That is the real problem here. If there is no illegality being perpetrated, why is it necessary to confront, resist, or run from the police? The police are not looking for trouble - they are summoned to it - and they also have families. We have morphed into a society which believes it is exempt from accountability - and that is a consequence of arrogance, which will only bring grief.

Yes, bmac - bin Laden did get his way. However, instead of fighting those who hate us and consider us infidels, we are purposely being indoctrinated by demagogues and billionaires into opposing those who actually come running to protect and serve us.

The Baltimore prosecutor who condemned the police, Marilyn Mosby, had directed the police to target the area where Freddie Gray was arrested with "ENHANCED EFFORTS." When protests were on the horizon, Baltimore Mayor Rawlings-Blake's office "clarified" a statement the mayor had previously made: "Unfortunately, as a result of providing the peaceful demonstrators with the 'SPACE TO SHARE THEIR MESSAGE, THAT ALSO MEANT THAT THOSE SEEKING TO INCITE VIOLENCE ALSO HAD THE SPACE TO OPERATE.' The police sought to balance the rights of the peaceful demonstrators against the need to step in against those who were seeking to create violence."

In that effort, 98 officers were injured in total and 95 people charged. Of those officers injured, 43 needed emergency medical treatment. Baltimore Police Capt. Eric Kowalcyzk said 13 officers remained out on medical leave due to their injuries.

So in addition to dealing with cell phone videos, funded protesters, a prosecutor who says use "ENHANCED EFFORTS" and a mayor who says GIVE THE DEMONSTRATORS "SPACE," the police had to deal with bottles and cement blocks being thrown at them, and charges to the arresting officers of up to and including manslaughter and murder. What a great job they have - one boss tells you to "be tenacious," another boss tells you to "back off," - you're told to protect life and property - and then are attacked by the people - and after doing your best to do what your bosses command, they fail to back you up and throw you under the bus.
Maybe, in lieu of Baltimore's recent murder stats, they'll realize what it would be like if they didn't have protection.

What acquiescent pawns we have become!!!

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Jun 12, 2015 21:26:53   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I remember those faces of hurt and anguish, can't imagine being there to hear it first hand, TV was bad enough. Have been in and out of several of the Muslim countries in the late 60's early 70's on P-3 Orion's, never staying longer that 48 hours and can say without a doubt in my mind these people have no compassion. Men treat woman worse than dogs, their children are left to defend for themselves and they have little pride in country, tribes were a of life like today. Every glad when I left VP-49!

Now we still treat cops well and if I'm told to do something I do it. Have been stopped four times in my life, all were for a lead foot. No cop has ever asked me to do anything that hasn't been unreasonable.

Obama has stuck his foot in his mouth several times starting with Cambridge and each has escalated from there. Baltimore is a city run by democrats and has been for many many years but I hear many politicians in Baltimore complaining about the laws yet they made those laws. Marilyn Mosby is way over her head and the mayor isn't much better. They passed those laws but never really intended for them to be enforced thus they blame the cops. The cops ignore that rule their out of a job and the follow that law and their thrown under the bus.

I'd give them space, six feet under or a 6X6 cell but to destroy a city, no way!



Tradition wrote:
How sad is that? And yes, I'll never forget 9/11. I live in New York, as do both of my sons. They were working in Manhattan on that terrible day - my younger son worked one block from the WTC. I spent several anguish-filled hours until I heard his voice.

The looks of fear and shock on the faces of the people who looked up, as those iconic towers fell, will stay with me forever. My loved ones came home to me, bmac. So many others were not as fortunate.

I consider myself a compassionate person. I had never felt hatred for anyone - until 9/11. When I learned that the radical Muslims who committed suicide on that day assumed they would be "rewarded" by defiling numerous virgins on the "other side," it certainly did not mitigate my outrage. These men were barbaric cowards who killed innocents unable and unprepared to defend themselves - children, people traveling, or merely going to work - with no guns and no weapons.

There was only one positive thing that happened on that day. Flags were flying everwhere. We were not divisible - we were all Americans - bound together with a unity of purpose - to bring to justice those who had perpetrated this atrocity on our family, friends and neighbors.

I remember how we cheered as firemen and women - and the police - were heading toward, and coming from, Ground Zero - after sifting through the rubble to find their brothers and any possible survivors. We applauded them because we remembered their incredible bravery on that fateful day, as they steadfastly walked toward the towers to render assistance, while civilians were running away to escape the horror and carnage.

Now look at what has happened to us. The police still come when they are needed, but they don't even get the respect of compliance to their directions. Racism is blamed - but none of these recent incidents would have happened had the victims not resisted arrest - none of them. TRAGEDIES HAPPEN WHEN RESPECT FOR AUTHORITY IS IGNORED. That is the real problem here. If there is no illegality being perpetrated, why is it necessary to confront, resist, or run from the police? The police are not looking for trouble - they are summoned to it - and they also have families. We have morphed into a society which believes it is exempt from accountability - and that is a consequence of arrogance, which will only bring grief.

Yes, bmac - bin Laden did get his way. However, instead of fighting those who hate us and consider us infidels, we are purposely being indoctrinated by demagogues and billionaires into opposing those who actually come running to protect and serve us.

The Baltimore prosecutor who condemned the police, Marilyn Mosby, had directed the police to target the area where Freddie Gray was arrested with "ENHANCED EFFORTS." When protests were on the horizon, Baltimore Mayor Rawlings-Blake's office "clarified" a statement the mayor had previously made: "Unfortunately, as a result of providing the peaceful demonstrators with the 'SPACE TO SHARE THEIR MESSAGE, THAT ALSO MEANT THAT THOSE SEEKING TO INCITE VIOLENCE ALSO HAD THE SPACE TO OPERATE.' The police sought to balance the rights of the peaceful demonstrators against the need to step in against those who were seeking to create violence."

In that effort, 98 officers were injured in total and 95 people charged. Of those officers injured, 43 needed emergency medical treatment. Baltimore Police Capt. Eric Kowalcyzk said 13 officers remained out on medical leave due to their injuries.

So in addition to dealing with cell phone videos, funded protesters, a prosecutor who says use "ENHANCED EFFORTS" and a mayor who says GIVE THE DEMONSTRATORS "SPACE," the police had to deal with bottles and cement blocks being thrown at them, and charges to the arresting officers of up to and including manslaughter and murder. What a great job they have - one boss tells you to "be tenacious," another boss tells you to "back off," - you're told to protect life and property - and then are attacked by the people - and after doing your best to do what your bosses command, they fail to back you up and throw you under the bus.
Maybe, in lieu of Baltimore's recent murder stats, they'll realize what it would be like if they didn't have protection.

What acquiescent pawns we have become!!!
How sad is that? And yes, I'll never forget 9/11.... (show quote)

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Jun 13, 2015 00:14:56   #
Tradition Loc: Staten Island, N.Y.
 
bmac32 wrote:
I remember those faces of hurt and anguish, can't imagine being there to hear it first hand, TV was bad enough. Have been in and out of several of the Muslim countries in the late 60's early 70's on P-3 Orion's, never staying longer that 48 hours and can say without a doubt in my mind these people have no compassion. Men treat woman worse than dogs, their children are left to defend for themselves and they have little pride in country, tribes were a of life like today. Every glad when I left VP-49!

Now we still treat cops well and if I'm told to do something I do it. Have been stopped four times in my life, all were for a lead foot. No cop has ever asked me to do anything that hasn't been unreasonable.

Obama has stuck his foot in his mouth several times starting with Cambridge and each has escalated from there. Baltimore is a city run by democrats and has been for many many years but I hear many politicians in Baltimore complaining about the laws yet they made those laws. Marilyn Mosby is way over her head and the mayor isn't much better. They passed those laws but never really intended for them to be enforced thus they blame the cops. The cops ignore that rule their out of a job and the follow that law and their thrown under the bus.

I'd give them space, six feet under or a 6X6 cell but to destroy a city, no way!
I remember those faces of hurt and anguish, can't ... (show quote)

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When my son, (who worked a block away from the WTC), came home, he was really devastated. He is an operating engineer and was on the roof of his building checking on some equipment when the plane hit the first tower. The sound of the plane when it made contact and the sound of the bodies of the people who jumped and fell to the pavement were sounds he said he would never forget.

It is difficult for someone like me, who, as a young woman, was accused more than once, of looking at the world through rose colored glasses. I couldn't understand what these people had against America. So I did some research and read parts of the Koran. Well, bmac, that was enough for me to decide that anyone who would use that book as a moral guide is no one I could ever trust. It is filled with anger and violence and hatred toward anyone whose beliefs are different from theirs. As you have been to Muslim countries and have seen these behaviors first hand, it just confirms my conclusions. It was comfortable for a while behind those rose-colored glasses - but they're off now - and have been for 14 years.

And I agree with your assessment, bmac. What kind of a mayor gives protesters "space" and the police orders to back off? In New York, we had a Mayor who would never condone such a thing. He cleaned up the city and decreased crime rates tremendously.

I am referring to Mayor Giuliani - the Mayor during 9/11. He became known as America's Mayor for the incredible leadership he displayed during that time. On funerals for the firefighters and police, Mr. Giuliani proved his true compassion. Despite all he had to deal with in regard to the city's needs, structural and emotional, he sometimes was present at five funerals a day. None of the dead went to their graves unattended by a top official, and always the mayor finished by asking mourners to give the departed a standing ovation.

Mr. Giuliani ruled with a controlling hand. In troubled times, he said, "people need to see a leader who is stronger than they are, BUT HUMAN."

“I saw firsthand his extraordinary competence and calm,” recalled Mark Green, the city’s public advocate and a frequent foe. “The mayor asked questions, ordered it in his mind and spoke in a way that conveyed strength and confidence.

But now we have De Blasio - an uber liberal mayor, whose wife is black, and, who succeeded in destroying police morale with this comment: "What parents have done for decades, who have children of color, especially young men of color, is train them to be very careful when they have a connection with a police officer." "It's different for a white child. That's just the reality in this country. And with Dante (his bi-racial son) very early on with my son, we said, look, if a police officer stops you, do everything he tells you to do, don't move suddenly, don't reach for your cell phone, because we knew, sadly, there's a greater chance it might be misinterpreted if it was a young man of color."

The police believe this remark by DeBlasio contributed to anti-police sentiment and the ambush of two N.Y. police officers who were merely sitting in their patrol car, when they were assassinated. The assassin, Ismaaiyl Brinsley, posted to his Instagram page. “I’m Putting Wings on Pigs Today. They Take 1 Of Ours . . . Let’s Take 2 of Theirs.” The post continued, ending with, “This May Be My Final Post.” It was! - He committed suicide.

The threats in his Instagram referenced the police-involved killings of Garner and Brown which had also given rise to protests in N.Y. The demonstrators were part of Al Sharpton’s “Million Marchers” protest against police violence. The protesters chanted “What do we want?… Dead cops!” as they marched in New York City.

Charlaton Sharpton and DeBlasio are both responsible for the deaths of these two young police officers. That is what Liberal Lunacy has wrought. You don't send men and women out on the streets to protect the people and put their lives on the line, then insult, demean and demoralize them!! That's not how a real leader treats their soldiers.

I'm afraid it's going to be a long hot summer, bmac.

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