oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Most if not all of Marx's ten point platform can be see here in good shape. Obama did spend a number of years at the knee of an avowed, card holding communist and surely learned the lessons very well. It seems to me that Obama has put into place most of the things Marx said were needed to put a country into socialism.


http://frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-hendrickson/obama-and-marxs-ten-point-platform-part-i/

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/mark-hendrickson/obama-and-marxs-ten-point-platform-part-ii/

bahmer

We are going to have to really get a strong person to fight back against this philosophy to run on the opposition ticket. OIllegal has a way of sugar coating his destruction to make it more palatable. We have to come out and challenge him and his supporters as to what there end desire really is and spell it out to the people. I am afraid that we may have let to much water go under the bridge to approach this with peaceful measures and we have also let to many of the horses out of the barn to get them back in. This may take a civil war to resolve but only time will tell.

rumitoid

First five points are all spin and not anything like what Marx had in mind; will read the rest after I get ready for work. One example of the spin. Although the rich do pay most of the taxes, the loopholes afforded them make it less than the percentage middle class families pay, often by as much as 20%. Wanting to end the loopholes is just leveling the playing field, not overtaxing the rich.

rumitoid

#1. State control of territory.

On repeated occasions, Team Obama often has thwarted the development of domestic energy supplies through arbitrary regulatory control over massive tracts of federally owned land and restricting drilling in American waters off our coasts.
It is the opinion of the writer that these regulations are arbitrary and there is just reason to limit offshore drilling.

#2. Progressive income taxes.

Obama has an Ahab-like obsession with further raising taxes on “the rich” even though the top 1% of earners already pays almost as much of the federal income tax as the bottom 95% of taxpayers combined.[
Answered this question in previous post.

#3. Abolition of inheritance.

Obama has succeeded in reinstating federal inheritance taxes and recently proposed raising them further by reducing the dollar threshold at which the tax kicks in and no longer allowing that amount to be indexed to inflation.
Taxing inheritance is not the abolition of inheritance.

#4. Confiscation of the property of emigrants and rebels.

The US has long been one of the few countries to tax its citizens on income earned abroad (a tax that applies to incomes above $95,100). In 2010, Obama won passage of the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, which orders foreign financial institutions to provide information to the IRS about Americans’ offshore holdings.
That the US is one of the few means nothing. Looking for accountability is not confication. Off shore Shell corporations and banks used to hide assets in order to avoid paying just taxes is not confiscation.

#5. Centralization of the country’s financial system in the hands of the state.

Certainly this trend was well established before Barack Obama became president. Thanks to decades of deficit spending, enabled by an accommodating central bank willing to help underwrite the federal government’s chronic over-spending, Big Government and Big Finance have become joined at the hip. This was dramatically demonstrated in 2008 when George W. Bush gave his blessing to a federal bailout of Wall Street. By that time, the heavily indebted federal government had grown far beyond Main Street banks’ ability to finance its massive fiscal operations. Only the colossal financial infrastructure of the megabanks and other gigantic financial institutions was sufficient to maintain an orderly market for the federal Treasury’s seas of red ink, and so federal intervention to rescue Wall Street was an inevitable act of self-preservation on the part of Uncle Sam.
This does not even deserve an answer. It so skews reality it is impossible to answer as well.

rumitoid

There are only five for now, thought there was another page. Look forward to reading the rest.

bottomdawg

I studied Communism in college (in the 60s, when you actually
had to know something) A few days into the course, we covered
the dialectic of materialism. The theme was constant conflict, whether it be civil war or government edict. I pointed out to the prof that this couldn't possibly work; nothing would gget done. In truth, Marx was a prophet, and a very bad one. Even the hardcore marxists are abandoning the ideology. I suggest you google " Prophecy of Khruschev".
Even gradualism doesn't work. In short, Marx and his ilk shouldbe buried and forgotten.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Did you finally tell me what the Obama "Fair Share" is? If not why did you say it like you did? Can you expound on what that "Fair Share" really is so we all know what that term means? To a communist sympathizer what you said may be very true. Is you is, or is you isn't?

bahmer

It appears that he knows what Marx had in mind which then says he must be a student of Marx to know so much about him. This country is in deep trouble with so many sympathizers around.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

bahmer

oldroy take a look at the first five items for discussion on today's 1PP as they are all great subjects showing exactly where our closet Muslim id trying to lead us or should I say destroy us. He has everything pretty well documented in his letter to Boehner and the other posts as well.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Commitoid is trying his best to tell us we are wrong but then he doesn't get his information from the same sources as we do.

faithistheword

[quote=rumitoid]#1. State control of territory.

On repeated occasions, Team Obama often has thwarted the development of domestic energy supplies through arbitrary regulatory control over massive tracts of federally owned land and restricting drilling in American waters off our coasts.
It is the opinion of the writer that these regulations are arbitrary and there is just reason to limit offshore drilling.

#2. Progressive income taxes.

Obama has an Ahab-like obsession with further raising taxes on “the rich” even though the top 1% of earners already pays almost as much of the federal income tax as the bottom 95% of taxpayers combined.[
Answered this question in previous post.

#3. Abolition of inheritance.

Obama has succeeded in reinstating federal inheritance taxes and recently proposed raising them further by reducing the dollar threshold at which the tax kicks in and no longer allowing that amount to be indexed to inflation.
Taxing inheritance is not the abolition of inheritance.

#4. Confiscation of the property of emigrants and rebels.

The US has long been one of the few countries to tax its citizens on income earned abroad (a tax that applies to incomes above $95,100). In 2010, Obama won passage of the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, which orders foreign financial institutions to provide information to the IRS about Americans’ offshore holdings.
That the US is one of the few means nothing. Looking for accountability is not confication. Off shore Shell corporations and banks used to hide assets in order to avoid paying just taxes is not confiscation.

#5. Centralization of the country’s financial system in the hands of the state.

Certainly this trend was well established before Barack Obama became president. Thanks to decades of deficit spending, enabled by an accommodating central bank willing to help underwrite the federal government’s chronic over-spending, Big Government and Big Finance have become joined at the hip. This was dramatically demonstrated in 2008 when George W. Bush gave his blessing to a federal bailout of Wall Street. By that time, the heavily indebted federal government had grown far beyond Main Street banks’ ability to finance its massive fiscal operations. Only the colossal financial infrastructure of the megabanks and other gigantic financial institutions was sufficient to maintain an orderly market for the federal Treasury’s seas of red ink, and so federal intervention to rescue Wall Street was an inevitable act of self-preservation on the part of Uncle Sam.
This does not even deserve an answer. It so skews reality it is impossible to answer as well.[/quote]

#1 It is the opinion of the writer that these regulations are arbitrary and there is just reason to limit offshore drilling.

Pretty vague. What do you consider just reason? To stifle the economy and limit job opportunities?

#2 Answered this question in previous post.

Because you said something doesn't mean you addressed the problem. Do you think only Republicans take deductions?

#3 Taxing inheritance is not the abolition of inheritance.

No, but they have no right to tax it-period. In some cases, it means confiscation.

#4 That the US is one of the few means nothing. Looking for accountability is not confiscation. Offshore shell corporations& banks used to hide assets in order to avoid paying just taxes is not confiscation

You mean like the Buffetts, the Kennedys, the Heinz-Kerrys etc. have always done?

It's funny how the only example of Industry/Govt. collusion is Pres. Bush! What about Fanny/Freddy? (dems) What about the IRS? (dems) You get the picture.