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Jun 3, 2015 09:42:24   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
KHH1 wrote:
Man who ranted online wins high court ruling

BY DAVID G. SAVAGE
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court made it harder Monday to punish people who post threatening comments online, ruling that prosecutors must show that the sender had the required criminal intent to threaten someone.
Before, most judges had said people could be prosecuted for sending threats online if a “reasonable person” reading the words would think they conveyed a true threat.
But in a case involving hostile comments made on Facebook, the high court rejected that view Monday and decided that people cannot be convicted of the crime of sending threats unless they had an “awareness of some wrongdoing,” which is needed to show criminal intent.
The court’s opinion rested on a subtle point of criminal law and said nothing about the 1st Amendment or free speech. But it is likely to shield people who rant online or muse darkly about carrying out violent acts.
It is a setback for victims of domestic violence, who say prosecutors need more leeway to go after ex-spouses and others who post specific threats on the Internet.
By an 8-1vote, the justices reversed the conviction of Anthony Elonis, a Pennsylvania man who posted on Facebook what he called “therapeutic” rants about his estranged wife.
“Did you know that it’s illegal for me to say I want to kill my wife?” he asked in one posting. In another, he wrote he would “not rest until your body is a mess, sealed in blood and dying from all the little cuts.”
Her friends alerted authorities. Soon after a female FBI agent came to his house to speak to him, Elonis posted on Facebook that he was about to “pull my knife [and] slit her throat.”
Federal law makes it a crime to transmit “any threat” to “injure” another person. Elonis was prosecuted, convicted by a jury and sent to prison for three years and eight months.
When the Supreme Court took up his appeal in Elonis vs. United States, 1st Amendment advocates hoped for a broad ruling that would strengthen the principle of free speech on the Internet.
Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., however, said the court decided to focus narrowly on a historic principle of criminal law. Before someone can be convicted of a crime, they should be at least aware that what they were doing was wrong. In this instance, Elonis seemed to believe that his writings were like “rap lyrics” and were protected as free speech.
Roberts said it was an error for the judge to permit the jury to convict Elonis based only on how his posts would be viewed by a reasonable person, a standard used in civil, not criminal, cases. The defendant has to be aware that his rants were true threats, he said.
A defendant can be convicted if he “transmits a communication for the purpose of issuing a threat or with the knowledge that the communication will be viewed as a threat,” the chief justice said.
While agreeing with the outcome, Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. faulted Roberts and his colleagues for handing down a ruling that decides very little.
“This case is certain to cause confusion and serious problems,” Alito wrote in a concurring opinion. The ruling does not clarify what must be proven to win a conviction, he wrote, but instead, “attorneys and judges are left to guess.”
In dissent, Justice Clarence Thomas said that Elonis’ “general intent” was clear and that his conviction should have been upheld. He also faulted the court for issuing a hazy opinion. “Our job is to decide questions, not create them,” he said.
The ACLU’s Legal Director Steven Shapiro praised the ruling. It “properly recognizes that the law for centuries required the government to prove criminal intent before putting someone in jail,” he said. “The Internet does not change this long-standing rule.” david.savage@latimes.com &#8201;
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Jun 3, 2015 10:11:28   #
hnealc
 
KHH1 wrote:
do the research dumbazz......develop your skills...if you type in the title the first thing that comes up is the LA Times...and who are the phuck are you to try and lay down some rules for this inbred convention? Also learn to spell the word "learn" as such and not "lern"...i post in the way I choose to provoke thought and see if you all can make the connection between the perspective I offer in the title and the actual article's contents. So until you have written a dissertation...shut the phuck up....i've been down that road years ago....OPP may be relevant to you but you can lose that directive bullshit here...and the bottom line is..,if Admin does not have an issue, you can
do the research dumbazz......develop your skills..... (show quote)



"to provoke thought "???
Could'a fooled me! More like 'provoke a fight'!!!

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Jun 3, 2015 19:24:38   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
hnealc wrote:
"to provoke thought "???
Could'a fooled me! More like 'provoke a fight'!!!


I find him quite amusing, in a precocious simian kind of way. How all of the inbred white racist pinkster trailer trash saltines had better stop with the racial insults. Excuse me, I have to dash down to the local KKK mart to do some shopping.

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Jun 3, 2015 19:44:01   #
KHH1
 
hnealc wrote:
"to provoke thought "???
Could'a fooled me! More like 'provoke a fight'!!!


ever taught a graduate course?

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Jun 3, 2015 19:52:49   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
KHH1 wrote:
ever taught a graduate course?


We are all so sure you have.

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Jun 3, 2015 20:06:16   #
KHH1
 
Loki wrote:
We are all so sure you have.


No i'm lying remember?...even though I have given course details before....and me asking that is an adequate response to a saltine who offers insults about my abilities....

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Jun 3, 2015 20:07:42   #
KHH1
 
KHH1 wrote:
No i'm lying remember?...even though I have given course details before....and me asking that is an adequate response to a saltine who offers insults about my abilities....


That is a place where you "provoke thought"...

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Jun 3, 2015 20:35:41   #
hnealc
 
KHH1 wrote:
ever taught a graduate course?


No, but I know a lot of dumb professors.

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Jun 3, 2015 20:39:29   #
KHH1
 
Marcus Johnson wrote:
I must be missing something. But isn't this article
written by David G Savage?
I don’t see where KHH1 is even attempting to plagiarize anything. He is clearly giving credit to the original author.
Correct me if I'm wrong.


Notice how they run from questions like this...but then run their coward azzes from around the corner to say some dumb schit...as if the fact that they ran from this question was overlooked...I have never seen people so damn stupid in my life..geesh!!!

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Jun 3, 2015 21:49:56   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
hnealc wrote:
No, but I know a lot of dumb professors.


I have not taught a graduate course, but I have been hired on numerous occasions to proofread and edit theses and dissertations. Considering that some of the theses were feces, it's a good thing they hired me. I found it ironic that these Doctoral Candidates and Masters' hopefuls had grammar skills that were more suited to a less than gifted 6th grader.

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Jun 3, 2015 22:22:30   #
KHH1
 
Loki wrote:
I have not taught a graduate course, but I have been hired on numerous occasions to proofread and edit theses and dissertations. Considering that some of the theses were feces, it's a good thing they hired me. I found it ironic that these Doctoral Candidates and Masters' hopefuls had grammar skills that were more suited to a less than gifted 6th grader.


That is probably the biggest lie you ever told........

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Jun 3, 2015 22:28:01   #
KHH1
 
hnealc wrote:
No, but I know a lot of dumb professors.


Well if you are that smart to be able to call them dumb you should easily be one yourself.....but you're probably right....some colleges give degrees like toilet paper......I mean look at the GOP...we call them Congressmen and some of them are as dumb as a sack of shrimp......palin bachmann, W and many repubs got blessings for being whatever...it is like all the engineers I used to see with the title but no formal credentials.....just some military experience....and their knowledge deficit became apparent at some point.....especially with their math backgrounds.....

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Jun 3, 2015 22:28:59   #
KHH1
 
hnealc wrote:
"to provoke thought "???
Could'a fooled me! More like 'provoke a fight'!!!


A lot of things fool you...you are a rightwingnut..........

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Jun 3, 2015 22:35:29   #
hnealc
 
KHH1 wrote:
A lot of things fool you...you are a rightwingnut..........


Better than backing Obama's garbage!

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Jun 3, 2015 22:42:14   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
KHH1 wrote:
ever taught a graduate course?


Look you know and we know you have not even passed the 6th grade. Your obvious errors in posting here provide a solid locked case against you having any formidable premium education that would being to showcase anything else. "ever taught a graduate course"? You sure have not. You cannot even structure that one single short, small sentence PROPERLY! How stupid ARE you? Can you even count to five without taking off one of your jellies, to count your toes? You have ZERO formal education. NONE. Sadly you are so frigging ignorant you fail to realize, it takes some intellect to go to school and then get a degree. You have neither. You are left out of the equation. Well it is due to you having NO education.

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