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May 20, 2015 09:51:54   #
josie
 
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, unnatural act. Leaving religious beliefs aside and if one must use the blame
game, Mother Nature would be first in line. As a natural act,
civilization would cease to be and you and I would not exist.

Marriage is the joining of two human beings of the opposite sex.
It is not an act of nature to take place between those of the same
sex. If love develops between those of the same sex and a
relationship forms, so be it. We have no laws that make it illegal.
Laws should be enacted to protect the rights of all individuals,
including those of same sex relationships. Passing a law or making
a court ruling to justify protection of those rights and calling it a
marriage in unacceptable.

Laws can be passed until the end of time and I would never accept
marriage between two of the same sex even if they were my own
children. Their relationship would not alter my love or respect but I
would never consider it a marriage no more than I would accept
laws passed to legalize marriage between siblings, parent and child, uncles and nieces etc and I could go on with this. I would
welcome my child and friend into my home as long as they acted
in a manner respectful of my beliefs. Knowing homosexual
individuals through the years have never been acquainted with one
that I would not consider my friend or that I would not welcome in
my home. I stop at marriage being acceptable.

There will come a time, probably after I have left this world that
this ruling or law will come back to bite. There will be legal challenges that have never before existed and reaching decisions
will not come without problems never before considered.

I am a firm believer in right and wrong. There is no grey in this
matter. It cannot go both ways and be faithful to Mother Nature
and her intentions.

Let someone, anyone, explain to me how two of the same sex
can grow civilization as we know it.

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May 20, 2015 09:59:45   #
jimahrens Loc: California
 
josie wrote:
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, unnatural act. Leaving religious beliefs aside and if one must use the blame
game, Mother Nature would be first in line. As a natural act,
civilization would cease to be and you and I would not exist.

Marriage is the joining of two human beings of the opposite sex.
It is not an act of nature to take place between those of the same
sex. If love develops between those of the same sex and a
relationship forms, so be it. We have no laws that make it illegal.
Laws should be enacted to protect the rights of all individuals,
including those of same sex relationships. Passing a law or making
a court ruling to justify protection of those rights and calling it a
marriage in unacceptable.

Laws can be passed until the end of time and I would never accept
marriage between two of the same sex even if they were my own
children. Their relationship would not alter my love or respect but I
would never consider it a marriage no more than I would accept
laws passed to legalize marriage between siblings, parent and child, uncles and nieces etc and I could go on with this. I would
welcome my child and friend into my home as long as they acted
in a manner respectful of my beliefs. Knowing homosexual
individuals through the years have never been acquainted with one
that I would not consider my friend or that I would not welcome in
my home. I stop at marriage being acceptable.

There will come a time, probably after I have left this world that
this ruling or law will come back to bite. There will be legal challenges that have never before existed and reaching decisions
will not come without problems never before considered.

I am a firm believer in right and wrong. There is no grey in this
matter. It cannot go both ways and be faithful to Mother Nature
and her intentions.

Let someone, anyone, explain to me how two of the same sex
can grow civilization as we know it.
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, ... (show quote)


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May 20, 2015 10:33:56   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
josie wrote:
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, unnatural act. Leaving religious beliefs aside and if one must use the blame
game, Mother Nature would be first in line. As a natural act,
civilization would cease to be and you and I would not exist.

Marriage is the joining of two human beings of the opposite sex.
It is not an act of nature to take place between those of the same
sex. If love develops between those of the same sex and a
relationship forms, so be it. We have no laws that make it illegal.
Laws should be enacted to protect the rights of all individuals,
including those of same sex relationships. Passing a law or making
a court ruling to justify protection of those rights and calling it a
marriage in unacceptable.

Laws can be passed until the end of time and I would never accept
marriage between two of the same sex even if they were my own
children. Their relationship would not alter my love or respect but I
would never consider it a marriage no more than I would accept
laws passed to legalize marriage between siblings, parent and child, uncles and nieces etc and I could go on with this. I would
welcome my child and friend into my home as long as they acted
in a manner respectful of my beliefs. Knowing homosexual
individuals through the years have never been acquainted with one
that I would not consider my friend or that I would not welcome in
my home. I stop at marriage being acceptable.

There will come a time, probably after I have left this world that
this ruling or law will come back to bite. There will be legal challenges that have never before existed and reaching decisions
will not come without problems never before considered.

I am a firm believer in right and wrong. There is no grey in this
matter. It cannot go both ways and be faithful to Mother Nature
and her intentions.

Let someone, anyone, explain to me how two of the same sex
can grow civilization as we know it.
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, ... (show quote)




Well said !! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 20, 2015 11:02:27   #
EL Loc: Massachusetts
 
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May 20, 2015 12:23:58   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
Homosexual behavior is found across the board in nature. In species that exhibit social order it appears to be accepted but not condoned in the hierarchy. In canine,ape, dolphin and until recently man.

We are the only species with lawyers. Go figure.

josie wrote:
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, unnatural act. Leaving religious beliefs aside and if one must use the blame
game, Mother Nature would be first in line. As a natural act,
civilization would cease to be and you and I would not exist.

Marriage is the joining of two human beings of the opposite sex.
It is not an act of nature to take place between those of the same
sex. If love develops between those of the same sex and a
relationship forms, so be it. We have no laws that make it illegal.
Laws should be enacted to protect the rights of all individuals,
including those of same sex relationships. Passing a law or making
a court ruling to justify protection of those rights and calling it a
marriage in unacceptable.

Laws can be passed until the end of time and I would never accept
marriage between two of the same sex even if they were my own
children. Their relationship would not alter my love or respect but I
would never consider it a marriage no more than I would accept
laws passed to legalize marriage between siblings, parent and child, uncles and nieces etc and I could go on with this. I would
welcome my child and friend into my home as long as they acted
in a manner respectful of my beliefs. Knowing homosexual
individuals through the years have never been acquainted with one
that I would not consider my friend or that I would not welcome in
my home. I stop at marriage being acceptable.

There will come a time, probably after I have left this world that
this ruling or law will come back to bite. There will be legal challenges that have never before existed and reaching decisions
will not come without problems never before considered.

I am a firm believer in right and wrong. There is no grey in this
matter. It cannot go both ways and be faithful to Mother Nature
and her intentions.

Let someone, anyone, explain to me how two of the same sex
can grow civilization as we know it.
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, ... (show quote)

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May 20, 2015 12:47:42   #
Marcus Johnson
 
josie wrote:
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, unnatural act. Leaving religious beliefs aside and if one must use the blame
game, Mother Nature would be first in line. As a natural act,
civilization would cease to be and you and I would not exist.

Marriage is the joining of two human beings of the opposite sex.
It is not an act of nature to take place between those of the same
sex. If love develops between those of the same sex and a
relationship forms, so be it. We have no laws that make it illegal.
Laws should be enacted to protect the rights of all individuals,
including those of same sex relationships. Passing a law or making
a court ruling to justify protection of those rights and calling it a
marriage in unacceptable.

Laws can be passed until the end of time and I would never accept
marriage between two of the same sex even if they were my own
children. Their relationship would not alter my love or respect but I
would never consider it a marriage no more than I would accept
laws passed to legalize marriage between siblings, parent and child, uncles and nieces etc and I could go on with this. I would
welcome my child and friend into my home as long as they acted
in a manner respectful of my beliefs. Knowing homosexual
individuals through the years have never been acquainted with one
that I would not consider my friend or that I would not welcome in
my home. I stop at marriage being acceptable.

There will come a time, probably after I have left this world that
this ruling or law will come back to bite. There will be legal challenges that have never before existed and reaching decisions
will not come without problems never before considered.

I am a firm believer in right and wrong. There is no grey in this
matter. It cannot go both ways and be faithful to Mother Nature
and her intentions.

Let someone, anyone, explain to me how two of the same sex
can grow civilization as we know it.
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, ... (show quote)


Given the fact that homosexual acts in nature, are wide spread and very common. I think it's best to say that bi-sexuality is predominant form of sexuality on this planet.

Drop the word "marriage" and just go with :civil union ".
Just sayin.

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May 20, 2015 12:57:10   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Marcus Johnson wrote:
Drop the word "marriage" and just go with :civil union ".Just sayin.


From your prior postings, I am cognizant of your views on religion. Try for civility if you reply to the following.

Many in the community of faith have said "civil union" with provision for the benefits of inheritance, etc. should be given to same gender relationships. It is the word "marriage" that raises ire.

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May 20, 2015 13:05:29   #
Marcus Johnson
 
AuntiE wrote:
From your prior postings, I am cognizant of your views on religion. Try for civility if you reply to the following.

Many in the community of faith have said "civil union" with provision for the benefits of inheritance, etc. should be given to same gender relationships. It is the word "marriage" that raises ire.


I always try to remain civil.

My point still is drop the word "marriage " for all.
Problem solved.

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May 20, 2015 13:21:43   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
Marcus Johnson wrote:
I always try to remain civil.

My point still is drop the word "marriage " for all.
Problem solved.


Marcus, I think you're probably right but the problem comes in because the homosexual community insists on using the word "marriage." If they want to have a civil ceremony among themselves and call it a marriage that would be one thing but a legal binding document similar to a marriage certificate would need to be generated and kept on file somewhere to give it full legal recognition. This will go on for awhile I'm afraid.

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May 20, 2015 14:01:10   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
josie wrote:
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, unnatural act. Leaving religious beliefs aside and if one must use the blame
game, Mother Nature would be first in line. As a natural act,
civilization would cease to be and you and I would not exist.

Marriage is the joining of two human beings of the opposite sex.
It is not an act of nature to take place between those of the same
sex. If love develops between those of the same sex and a
relationship forms, so be it. We have no laws that make it illegal.
Laws should be enacted to protect the rights of all individuals,
including those of same sex relationships. Passing a law or making
a court ruling to justify protection of those rights and calling it a
marriage in unacceptable.

Laws can be passed until the end of time and I would never accept
marriage between two of the same sex even if they were my own
children. Their relationship would not alter my love or respect but I
would never consider it a marriage no more than I would accept
laws passed to legalize marriage between siblings, parent and child, uncles and nieces etc and I could go on with this. I would
welcome my child and friend into my home as long as they acted
in a manner respectful of my beliefs. Knowing homosexual
individuals through the years have never been acquainted with one
that I would not consider my friend or that I would not welcome in
my home. I stop at marriage being acceptable.

There will come a time, probably after I have left this world that
this ruling or law will come back to bite. There will be legal challenges that have never before existed and reaching decisions
will not come without problems never before considered.

I am a firm believer in right and wrong. There is no grey in this
matter. It cannot go both ways and be faithful to Mother Nature
and her intentions.

Let someone, anyone, explain to me how two of the same sex
can grow civilization as we know it.
My opinion is that homosexuality is a biological, ... (show quote)





Josie - While it may be unnatural to you, it is quite natural to me and many others on the planet. And I'm wondering what you mean when you indicate homosexuality would cause "civilization [to] cease to be"

As less than 3% of the total population LGBTQ people pose no threat to the continuation of the species; there is the other 97% of the population - heterosexuals - reproducing all the time (and BTW, 100% of homosexuals throughout history were born ofy heterosexual unions.)

In addition homosexuals throughout history have been an integral part of forming evolved civilizations, from Alexander the Great to Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo and Tchaikovsky.

Of course you are free to form your own opinions, and I would always fight for you to have a free voice. But in the realm of civil law and our current culture I would always fight to dispel your outdated understanding of what does and does not constitute a marriage.

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May 20, 2015 15:39:44   #
Marcus Johnson
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Josie - While it may be unnatural to you, it is quite natural to me and many others on the planet. And I'm wondering what you mean when you indicate homosexuality would cause "civilization [to] cease to be"

As less than 3% of the total population LGBTQ people pose no threat to the continuation of the species; there is the other 97% of the population - heterosexuals - reproducing all the time (and BTW, 100% of homosexuals throughout history were born ofy heterosexual unions.)

In addition homosexuals throughout history have been an integral part of forming evolved civilizations, from Alexander the Great to Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo and Tchaikovsky.

Of course you are free to form your own opinions, and I would always fight for you to have a free voice. But in the realm of civil law and our current culture I would always fight to dispel your outdated understanding of what does and does not constitute a marriage.
Josie - While it may be unnatural to you, it is qu... (show quote)



Well said. Paul :thumbup:

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May 20, 2015 20:01:29   #
L8erToots
 
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PaulPisces wrote:
Josie - While it may be unnatural to you, it is quite natural to me and many others on the planet. And I'm wondering what you mean when you indicate homosexuality would cause "civilization [to] cease to be"

As less than 3% of the total population LGBTQ people pose no threat to the continuation of the species; there is the other 97% of the population - heterosexuals - reproducing all the time (and BTW, 100% of homosexuals throughout history were born ofy heterosexual unions.)

In addition homosexuals throughout history have been an integral part of forming evolved civilizations, from Alexander the Great to Leonardo da Vinci, Michelangelo and Tchaikovsky.

Of course you are free to form your own opinions, and I would always fight for you to have a free voice. But in the realm of civil law and our current culture I would always fight to dispel your outdated understanding of what does and does not constitute a marriage.
Josie - While it may be unnatural to you, it is qu... (show quote)



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May 20, 2015 20:22:30   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
missinglink wrote:
Homosexual behavior is found across the board in nature. In species that exhibit social order it appears to be accepted but not condoned in the hierarchy. In canine,ape, dolphin and until recently man.

We are the only species with lawyers. Go figure.


Yes, throughout nature same sex acts happen. They are often part of dominance aggression, but can also be just a biological urge that is exhibited inappropriately, such as observed daily in dogs, which will mount anything even your furniture. Whether it is a natural act for some dogs, goats or monkeys should make no difference to humans. Considering that animals eat each others feces, and urinate on each other during courting and as a dominance behavior, breed female without their permission, kill other males so that they may mate with the other males females, anyone who believes that because animals do it it is a good thing and should be considered honorable in humans, has taken moral relativism to a new low. those people if they are using the same logic that it is natural somewhere so it is natural for humans should be against punishing others for murdering their children, or the children sired by another man because those are natural and very common in the animal world, as is the female eating her own young soon after giving birth to them.

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May 20, 2015 20:33:03   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Yes, throughout nature same sex acts happen. They are often part of dominance aggression, but can also be just a biological urge that is exhibited inappropriately, such as observed daily in dogs, which will mount anything even your furniture. Whether it is a natural act for some dogs, goats or monkeys should make no difference to humans. Considering that animals eat each others feces, and urinate on each other during courting and as a dominance behavior, breed female without their permission, kill other males so that they may mate with the other males females, anyone who believes that because animals do it it is a good thing and should be considered honorable in humans, has taken moral relativism to a new low. those people if they are using the same logic that it is natural somewhere so it is natural for humans should be against punishing others for murdering their children, or the children sired by another man because those are natural and very common in the animal world, as is the female eating her own young soon after giving birth to them.
Yes, throughout nature same sex acts happen. They... (show quote)




I agree completely NPP that what happens in nature is not necessarily always a good model for humans. I only call out homosexuality "in nature" when someone voices the opinion that it only happens in humans, or claims that it does not happen "in nature". Your claim that it only represents aggression or something else is impossible to prove since animals (except perhaps for sign-language trained primates) have no way of communicating their thoughts to us. Everything we know about their thoughts and motivation is speculation on our part.

In this particular case I only indicated that it is natural for ME. It is an essential part of who I am and flows very naturally from the center of my being, along with the desire to be fair to my fellow man, promote peace, celebrate diversity and other things generally thought to be good.

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May 20, 2015 21:01:23   #
Marcus Johnson
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I agree completely NPP that what happens in nature is not necessarily always a good model for humans. I only call out homosexuality "in nature" when someone voices the opinion that it only happens in humans, or claims that it does not happen "in nature". Your claim that it only represents aggression or something else is impossible to prove since animals (except perhaps for sign-language trained primates) have no way of communicating their thoughts to us. Everything we know about their thoughts and motivation is speculation on our part.

In this particular case I only indicated that it is natural for ME. It is an essential part of who I am and flows very naturally from the center of my being, along with the desire to be fair to my fellow man, promote peace, celebrate diversity and other things generally thought to be good.
I agree completely NPP that what happens in nature... (show quote)


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