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Apr 10, 2015 13:43:01   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
I sent this message to Cruz and Rubio, of course using each name and locale.
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I have supported you since you first entered politics in Florida.

I find it difficult to believe that you are unaware of the fact that you are not a natural born citizen of the USA, and are therefore not eligible for the office of president.

I believe that you could well serve the nation in any number of high level cabinet or advisory posts in DC. Or by continuing as a senator .

If you continue to try to gain the republican nomination for president while knowing you are ineligible, I will lose my respect for you.

I am sending this same message to Senator Cruz, and I hope both of you will reply.
Thank you

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Apr 10, 2015 13:51:32   #
bahmer
 
hprinze wrote:
I sent this message to Cruz and Rubio, of course using each name and locale.
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I have supported you since you first entered politics in Florida.

I find it difficult to believe that you are unaware of the fact that you are not a natural born citizen of the USA, and are therefore not eligible for the office of president.

I believe that you could well serve the nation in any number of high level cabinet or advisory posts in DC. Or by continuing as a senator .

If you continue to try to gain the republican nomination for president while knowing you are ineligible, I will lose my respect for you.

I am sending this same message to Senator Rubioz, and I hope both of you will reply.
Thank you
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I will be interested in their reply as well as those on OPP as well. The left will of course have no room to talk at all as their POTUS is not a natural born citizen as well. I believe that Hillsdale College has some professors that could enlighten all on the subject of natural born citizen.

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Apr 10, 2015 14:36:27   #
larrypuckett1939
 
GOOD ONE!! I AM OF THE SAME MIND. THEY ARE BOTH REPUTABLE
SENATORS, AND WOULD BE DYNOMITE IN A CABINET POSITION,
JUST NOT PRESIDENT!!
true patriot MOLON LABE


hprinze wrote:
I sent this message to Cruz and Rubio, of course using each name and locale.
-------------------------------------------
I have supported you since you first entered politics in Florida.

I find it difficult to believe that you are unaware of the fact that you are not a natural born citizen of the USA, and are therefore not eligible for the office of president.

I believe that you could well serve the nation in any number of high level cabinet or advisory posts in DC. Or by continuing as a senator .

If you continue to try to gain the republican nomination for president while knowing you are ineligible, I will lose my respect for you.

I am sending this same message to Senator Cruz, and I hope both of you will reply.
Thank you
I sent this message to Cruz and Rubio, of course u... (show quote)

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Apr 10, 2015 15:02:44   #
Liberty Tree
 
hprinze wrote:
I sent this message to Cruz and Rubio, of course using each name and locale.
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I have supported you since you first entered politics in Florida.

I find it difficult to believe that you are unaware of the fact that you are not a natural born citizen of the USA, and are therefore not eligible for the office of president.

I believe that you could well serve the nation in any number of high level cabinet or advisory posts in DC. Or by continuing as a senator .

If you continue to try to gain the republican nomination for president while knowing you are ineligible, I will lose my respect for you.

I am sending this same message to Senator Cruz, and I hope both of you will reply.
Thank you
I sent this message to Cruz and Rubio, of course u... (show quote)

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Apr 10, 2015 15:03:56   #
Liberty Tree
 
hprinze wrote:
I sent this message to Cruz and Rubio, of course using each name and locale.
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I have supported you since you first entered politics in Florida.

I find it difficult to believe that you are unaware of the fact that you are not a natural born citizen of the USA, and are therefore not eligible for the office of president.

I believe that you could well serve the nation in any number of high level cabinet or advisory posts in DC. Or by continuing as a senator .

If you continue to try to gain the republican nomination for president while knowing you are ineligible, I will lose my respect for you.

I am sending this same message to Senator Cruz, and I hope both of you will reply.
Thank you
I sent this message to Cruz and Rubio, of course u... (show quote)


You are in error. Both are eligible to be President and the courts will affirm the fact if needed.

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Apr 10, 2015 15:23:06   #
Kachina
 
If you would study the law, they are both natural born citizens. Rubio first of all was actually born in Miami fl. So don't know why anyone questions him. Even though his parents were not born here, he was automatically making him a natural born citizen. Cruz' mother is a U.S. citizen by birth making him a natural born citizen, although personally I think that law should be changed so that a president is actually born in America.

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Apr 10, 2015 15:55:16   #
bahmer
 
Kachina wrote:
If you would study the law, they are both natural born citizens. Rubio first of all was actually born in Miami fl. So don't know why anyone questions him. Even though his parents were not born here, he was automatically making him a natural born citizen. Cruz' mother is a U.S. citizen by birth making him a natural born citizen, although personally I think that law should be changed so that a president is actually born in America.


Google the following and do some studying. It will tell the reasons and the whys of the "natural born citizen" terminology.

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Apr 10, 2015 16:02:23   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Kachina wrote:
If you would study the law, they are both natural born citizens. Rubio first of all was actually born in Miami fl. So don't know why anyone questions him. Even though his parents were not born here, he was automatically making him a natural born citizen. Cruz' mother is a U.S. citizen by birth making him a natural born citizen, although personally I think that law should be changed so that a president is actually born in America.


but his parents were not citizens at the time

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Apr 10, 2015 16:10:28   #
Kachina
 
alex wrote:
but his parents were not citizens at the time


It doesn't matter. There have been 6 other presidents since constitution written who have had one parent born outside of USA and Andrew jacksons parents were both born in Ireland. Also the first 9 presidents of USA were not born in USA. Tyler was the first. A person either has to be physically born in USA or have a parent who was born and lived in country.

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Apr 10, 2015 16:30:51   #
Patriotichead
 
Marco Rubio was born in Miami from Cuban Parents. He is an American born.

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Apr 10, 2015 16:39:13   #
bahmer
 
Kachina wrote:
It doesn't matter. There have been 6 other presidents since constitution written who have had one parent born outside of USA and Andrew jacksons parents were both born in Ireland. Also the first 9 presidents of USA were not born in USA. Tyler was the first. A person either has to be physically born in USA or have a parent who was born and lived in country.


No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

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Apr 10, 2015 16:49:39   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
You are in error. Both are eligible to be President and the courts will affirm the fact if needed.


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The Supreme Court has already confirmed that both ARE INELIGIBLE when they defined natural born citizen as a person born in the U.S. of TWO U.S. citizen parents, in an 1875 case.

This is a legal binding decision that cannot be overturned by a superior court because THERE IS NO SUPERIOR COURT

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Apr 10, 2015 16:56:39   #
Liberty Tree
 
hprinze wrote:
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The Supreme Court has already confirmed that both ARE INELIGIBLE when they defined natural born citizen as a person born in the U.S. of TWO U.S. citizen parents, in an 1875 case.

This I a legal binding decision that cannot be overturned by a superior court because THERE IS NO SUPERIOR COURT


People born in the USA without either parent being a citizen have been considered citizens. People born in other countries to parents who were citizens have been considered citizens. Anyone born with one parent a citizen has been considered a citizen. Both Rubio and Cruz have been considered citizens by government agencies their whole lives. None of this will change because if your definition is enforced millions will have their citizenship taken from them and that will not happen, no matter how much you wish it.

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Apr 10, 2015 17:00:54   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
People born in the USA without either parent being a citizen have been considered citizens. People born in other countries to parents who were citizens have been considered citizens. Anyone born with one parent a citizen has been considered a citizen. Both Rubio and Cruz have been considered citizens by government agencies their whole lives. None of this will change because if your definition is enforced millions will have their citizenship taken from them and that will not happen, no matter how much you wish it.
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You obviously don't understand the meaning of the words
:
citizen

naturalized citizen

native born citizen

natural born citizen

They are not all the same.

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Apr 10, 2015 17:02:27   #
Liberty Tree
 
hprinze wrote:
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You obviously don't understand the meaning of the words
:
citizen

naturalized citizen

native born citizen

natural born citizen

They are not all the same.


You do not understand the 1875 case.

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