Obama/Kerry Foolishly Ignore Ancient History with Iranian Agreement
Apr 9, 2015 23:53:01 #
Many of us have been screaming for the past several months (including several times recently on these OPP posts) that IRAN LIES and cannot be trusted!
Much to our chagrin, Obama devotee's, resident Liberals and some nondescript trolls have rejected such thoughts and expressions of truth as attempts by the political Right (specifically the 47 patriotic Republican Senators through the posting of their 'Open Letter" to Iran) to sabotage the talks seeking a Nuclear agreement with Iran. As vindication of those thoughts, I offer the following:
Obama taken for fool by classic Muslim ploy. Mullahs follow negotiating tactic handed down by Muhammad
Leo Hohmann is a news editor for WND. He has been a reporter and editor at several suburban newspapers in the Atlanta and Charlotte, North Carolina, areas and also served as managing editor of Triangle Business Journal in Raleigh, North Carolina. This article appeared today at WND.
Did President Obama get hoodwinked by the Iranians because of his ignorance of an ancient, time-tested negotiating tactic ingrained in Islamic law?
The presidents secular Marxist mindset, which tends to downplay the importance of religion in all aspects of politics, may have left him easy pickings for an Iranian team skilled in the art of Islamic deception, says the author of two best-selling books and a documentary about Islams apocalyptic ambitions.
Joel Richardson, author of the New York Times-best seller The Islamic Antichrist followed by Mideast Beast, looks at the preliminary nuclear deal between Iran and the U.S. with five other world powers and sees the markings of Islams prophet, Muhammad.
If one wishes to have even a basic understanding of the underlying principles involved in Middle East politics, then one must first understand the history and implications of the Treaty of Hudaibiyah, Richardson told WND.
He believes Obama committed a brazenly amateur gaffe by failing to understand who he was dealing with an Iranian regime steeped in Islamic law.
The rules the mullahs follow trace back to the life and example of Muhammad, he said. And one of the most important tactical victories in Muhammads career is what is known as the Treaty of Hudaibiyah.
Muhammad made this treaty with the pagan Quraysh tribe of Mecca, which was the most powerful tribe in the region at the time. The Qurayshis entered into a 10-year peace pact with Muhammad and lived to regret it.
It appeared to be a lopsided treaty in favor of the Qurayshis. For instance, if one of Muhammads followers wanted to leave and join the Qurayshis, they were free to do so. But if one of the Qurayshis wished to become a Muslim, they were to be rejected and returned to the Quraysh.
But Muhammad saw an opportunity.
Freed from any military threat from the most powerful tribe in the region, he suddenly received a revelation from Allah, Richardson said. This revelation can be found in Surah 48 of the Quran. It begins with Surely We (Allah) have given to you a clear victory.
With the Qurayshis sidelined, Muhammad began attacking several large Jewish tribes in Arabia.
Any men who joined the Muslims in war would receive a significant share of the plunder, booty, slaves and female prisoners.
The Jewish villages fell like Dominos, and the wealth of the Jews became that of the Muslims.
Within two years, the Muslims went from about 1,200 men to more than 10,000. Muhammad then launched a surprise attack on the Qurayshis and defeated them. The Muslims stood alone as the most powerful group in the Arabian Peninsula.
The takeaway is that Muslims today look to the example of Muhammad and the Treaty of Hudaibiyah as one of the primary go-to strategies to defeat their enemies, Richardson said. Enter into a treaty, a covenant, a ceasefire. But it is only for the purpose of gaining strength to eventually defeat your enemy.
Muslims today clearly understand Hudaibiya to be a code-word which, in brief, means kiss the hand of your enemy until you have the opportunity to cut it off.
Ingrained in Islamic legal teaching
Dr. Andrew Bostom has studied Islamic jurisprudence for years and written five books about the history of jihad and Shariah, including Legacy of Jihad and Sharia Versus Freedom.
Bostom addresses the principle of Hudaibiya as it relates to the current nuclear deal in his new book, Irans Final Solution for Israel.
It is a principle of Islamic law, that as a Muslim leader, as a Muslim society, youre not supposed to sign a treaty for longer than 10 years. It is based on Muhammad, Bostom told WND. Its a well-enshrined doctrine, and you are to enter into a deal like this only when youre in a position of weakness.
The deal the Obama administration negotiated with Iran expires after 10 years. Iran has been under harsh economic sanctions for decades, and oil prices have fallen to the lowest level in a decade.
Bostom says all the classical Islamic jurists have accepted Hudaibiya as a binding principle.
In fact, in December 2013, Iranian leaders talking about the negotiations with the six world powers were openly referring to Hudaibiyah.
In my book is a very pertinent example: Within three weeks of when the initial announcement was made in December 2013 about the plan to reach an agreement an adviser to former Iranian President Khatami actually invoked the treaty of Hudaibiyah, he said. So you can see how its used to illustrate exactly this deal.
Bostom also documents in his book that the U.S. State Department has been aware of the Islamic view of treaties with non-Muslim countries since 1880:
Edward A. Van Dyck, then U.S. Consular Clerk at Cairo, Egypt, prepared a detailed report in August, 1880 on the history of the treaty arrangements (so-called capitulations) between the Muslim Ottoman Empire, European nations, and the much briefer U.S.-Ottoman experience. Van Dycks report written specifically as a tool for State Department diplomats opens with an informed, clear, and remarkably concise explanation of jihad and Islamic law. (Irans Final Solution for Israel, Page 74)
The Muslim jurists teach that Muslim rulers are never to make a lasting peace with unbelievers but can only make temporary truces, to be broken at the pleasure by the prince and in the interest of the believers, Van Dyck wrote in 1880, quoting from the works of Abu al-Hussein el-Quduri of the Hanafite School of doctors, who died in 1037 A.D.
This is a cardinal principle of Islamic law, not just something from Muhammads lore or Muhammads past, Bostom told WND. This is Islamic law. Muhammad is just cited as the precedent for it, but its embedded in their law that you dont engage in any sort of negotiation or treaty unless youre in some position of weakness; otherwise, you just keep waging jihad.
The 1880 State Department document lays it all out there, all the facts, Bostom said. But that was back when we still had knowledgeable people, actually educated people, handling things in our government.
Peace with ones enemies is never the end-game for those who follow Islamic law, Richardson said, but the Obama administration is either ignorant of this principle or willfully cooperating with it.
Yasser Arafat caught red-handed employing Hudaibiya
He points to another case in modern history where the Hudaibiya card was played against the Israelis.
In May 1994, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat addressed a group of Muslims in Johannesburg, South Africa. Arafat didnt know he was being secretly recorded. At this time, things were looking good for the Middle East peace process. During this speech, Arafat spoke of the ongoing jihad to liberate Jerusalem.
Those Israelis who had trusted Arafats previous promises of peace and goodwill were stunned. But even more damaging to the peace process were Arafats comments about the treaty of Hudaibyah, Richardson said.
Referring to the peace pact hed only recently made with Israel, Arafat was recorded as saying: I see this agreement as being no more than the agreement signed between our Prophet Muhammad and the Quraysh in Mecca. The prophet had been right to insist on the agreement, for it helped him defeat the Quraysh and take over their city of Mecca. In a similar spirit, we now accept the peace agreement, but [only in order] to continue on the road to Jerusalem.
They danced circles around our president
The Iranian regime, perhaps better than any in the Middle East, knows how to play the long game, Richardson said. They are brilliant strategists. Today, they are celebrating the gullibility of the Obama administration in making such significant concessions, and agreeing (purportedly) to lift sanctions. They danced circles around our president.
It is no coincidence that Obamas deal with Iran last 10 years, precisely like Muhammads so-called treaty with the Qurayshis.
After the 10 years, the Iranians would then be free to continue work on their nuclear weapons, according to a Wall Street Journal report.
The problem is, they will never actually stop, Richardson said, citing a Times of Israel report. They will continue work on day one.
Our president has been taken, the American people have been made fools, and the security of Israel has been sacrificed on the altar of Obamas legacy. That legacy however is already dissipating in thin air even before the ink is dry.
Persia comes back to bite
Carl Gallups, author of Final Warning, sees prophetic significance in Obamas preliminary deal with Iran.
The Iran/Obama deal that has been drafted thus far appears absolutely ludicrous to many, he told WND. It seems as though it is an agreement only attained when the crafty ones with whom you are negotiating get a whiff of your fear, your trepidation, your weakness.
The comparison to the treaty of Hudaibiyah is especially profound when considering the fact that Iran is the modern name for the heartland of the ancient Persian Empire. It is from the modern region of todays Iran that Persian emperor Cyrus the Great united the Medes and other Iranian empires, and then further expanded Persian influence by swallowing up the decaying Babylonian empire.
Of course, it was also from the ancient Persian Empire where the decree to kill all the Jews in the land was signed into effect by King Artaxerxes through the plot of his viceroy, Haman, Gallups said. It seems to many prophecy watchers of today that those attitudes of ancient Persia might have come full circle.
The majority of Israelis certainly fear so, re-electing Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu as their prime minister last month. A week before that election, he made the landmark speech to the U.S. Congress on March 3, which is the Fast of Esther on the Hebrew calendar.
Who can forget Netanyahus biblical overtones when he addressed the U.S. Congress? In that speech, he made the direct parallel between ancient Persia, modern Iran, and Irans current and expressed desire to destroy Israel, Gallups noted.
Netanyahu said: Were an ancient people. In our nearly 4,000 years of history, many have tried repeatedly to destroy the Jewish people. Tomorrow night, on the Jewish holiday of Purim, well read the Book of Esther. Well read of a powerful Persian viceroy named Haman, who plotted to destroy the Jewish people some 2,500 years ago.
Netanyahu was already aware that back in 2014 the commander of the Basij militia of Irans Revolutionary Guards, Reza Naqdi, announced that Iran was escalating its efforts to arm West Bank Palestinians for war against Israel, according to the Times of Israel. He went on to declare this action would ultimately lead to Israels annihilation.
Parallels to Esther, Haman
Then theres the fact that the six world powers and Iran announced they had reached a framework for a deal on April 2, which was Nisan 13 on the Hebrew calendar.
Esther 3:12, 13, says that on Nisan 13 the Persian king Ahasuerus was tricked by a viceroy, Haman, into signing an agreement to destroy all the Jews in the land at a future date. This was also the day before the third of three blood moons, or lunar eclipses. Blood moons often mean war is coming to Israel, according to Jewish sages.
It was not long after Netanyahus speech to Congress that Naqdi then proclaimed erasing Israel off the map is nonnegotiable.
It is not a new revelation to Netanyahu, or much of the rest of the world for that matter, that the ultimate destruction of Israel is Irans passionate and apocalyptically driven end game, Gallups said. Apparently, Obama missed the memo somewhere along the way. Some speculate that Obama is actually, knowingly or unknowingly, fueling the fires of that ominous and highly potential scenario.
The opening words of the treaty of Hudaibiyah are: In your name, O God! This is the treaty of peace between Muhammad Ibn Abdullah and Suhayl ibn Amr. They have agreed to allow their arms to rest for ten years. During this time each party shall be secure, and neither shall injure the other; no secret damage shall be inflicted, but honesty and honour shall prevail between them. (Learning Islam 8. Islamic Services Foundation. 2009. P. D14.)
Those words could have easily been copied into the current Iranian agreement, Gallups believes. Now we learn, after the current Obama/Iran deal has been negotiated, that Iran will begin using its latest generation IR-8 centrifuges as soon as its nuclear deal with the world powers goes into effect.
Netanyahu denounced the deal as a historic mistake. He warned the agreement bore the terrible chance of causing a horrific war. The fear is that the deal will leave much of Irans nuclear infrastructure intact while not addressing Irans support for hostile militant groups in the region.
Netanyahu also insisted that any final agreement with Iran must contain a clear and unambiguous recognition of Israels right to exist. At this point, it does not appear this stipulation is anywhere in the agreement.
Irans President Hassan Rohani said in a national address last Friday that the Iranians will remain loyal and stand by the promises they made, and that they do not seek to deceive the international community.
Richardson, Bostom and Gallups will be watching.
Much to our chagrin, Obama devotee's, resident Liberals and some nondescript trolls have rejected such thoughts and expressions of truth as attempts by the political Right (specifically the 47 patriotic Republican Senators through the posting of their 'Open Letter" to Iran) to sabotage the talks seeking a Nuclear agreement with Iran. As vindication of those thoughts, I offer the following:
Obama taken for fool by classic Muslim ploy. Mullahs follow negotiating tactic handed down by Muhammad
Leo Hohmann is a news editor for WND. He has been a reporter and editor at several suburban newspapers in the Atlanta and Charlotte, North Carolina, areas and also served as managing editor of Triangle Business Journal in Raleigh, North Carolina. This article appeared today at WND.
Did President Obama get hoodwinked by the Iranians because of his ignorance of an ancient, time-tested negotiating tactic ingrained in Islamic law?
The presidents secular Marxist mindset, which tends to downplay the importance of religion in all aspects of politics, may have left him easy pickings for an Iranian team skilled in the art of Islamic deception, says the author of two best-selling books and a documentary about Islams apocalyptic ambitions.
Joel Richardson, author of the New York Times-best seller The Islamic Antichrist followed by Mideast Beast, looks at the preliminary nuclear deal between Iran and the U.S. with five other world powers and sees the markings of Islams prophet, Muhammad.
If one wishes to have even a basic understanding of the underlying principles involved in Middle East politics, then one must first understand the history and implications of the Treaty of Hudaibiyah, Richardson told WND.
He believes Obama committed a brazenly amateur gaffe by failing to understand who he was dealing with an Iranian regime steeped in Islamic law.
The rules the mullahs follow trace back to the life and example of Muhammad, he said. And one of the most important tactical victories in Muhammads career is what is known as the Treaty of Hudaibiyah.
Muhammad made this treaty with the pagan Quraysh tribe of Mecca, which was the most powerful tribe in the region at the time. The Qurayshis entered into a 10-year peace pact with Muhammad and lived to regret it.
It appeared to be a lopsided treaty in favor of the Qurayshis. For instance, if one of Muhammads followers wanted to leave and join the Qurayshis, they were free to do so. But if one of the Qurayshis wished to become a Muslim, they were to be rejected and returned to the Quraysh.
But Muhammad saw an opportunity.
Freed from any military threat from the most powerful tribe in the region, he suddenly received a revelation from Allah, Richardson said. This revelation can be found in Surah 48 of the Quran. It begins with Surely We (Allah) have given to you a clear victory.
With the Qurayshis sidelined, Muhammad began attacking several large Jewish tribes in Arabia.
Any men who joined the Muslims in war would receive a significant share of the plunder, booty, slaves and female prisoners.
The Jewish villages fell like Dominos, and the wealth of the Jews became that of the Muslims.
Within two years, the Muslims went from about 1,200 men to more than 10,000. Muhammad then launched a surprise attack on the Qurayshis and defeated them. The Muslims stood alone as the most powerful group in the Arabian Peninsula.
The takeaway is that Muslims today look to the example of Muhammad and the Treaty of Hudaibiyah as one of the primary go-to strategies to defeat their enemies, Richardson said. Enter into a treaty, a covenant, a ceasefire. But it is only for the purpose of gaining strength to eventually defeat your enemy.
Muslims today clearly understand Hudaibiya to be a code-word which, in brief, means kiss the hand of your enemy until you have the opportunity to cut it off.
Ingrained in Islamic legal teaching
Dr. Andrew Bostom has studied Islamic jurisprudence for years and written five books about the history of jihad and Shariah, including Legacy of Jihad and Sharia Versus Freedom.
Bostom addresses the principle of Hudaibiya as it relates to the current nuclear deal in his new book, Irans Final Solution for Israel.
It is a principle of Islamic law, that as a Muslim leader, as a Muslim society, youre not supposed to sign a treaty for longer than 10 years. It is based on Muhammad, Bostom told WND. Its a well-enshrined doctrine, and you are to enter into a deal like this only when youre in a position of weakness.
The deal the Obama administration negotiated with Iran expires after 10 years. Iran has been under harsh economic sanctions for decades, and oil prices have fallen to the lowest level in a decade.
Bostom says all the classical Islamic jurists have accepted Hudaibiya as a binding principle.
In fact, in December 2013, Iranian leaders talking about the negotiations with the six world powers were openly referring to Hudaibiyah.
In my book is a very pertinent example: Within three weeks of when the initial announcement was made in December 2013 about the plan to reach an agreement an adviser to former Iranian President Khatami actually invoked the treaty of Hudaibiyah, he said. So you can see how its used to illustrate exactly this deal.
Bostom also documents in his book that the U.S. State Department has been aware of the Islamic view of treaties with non-Muslim countries since 1880:
Edward A. Van Dyck, then U.S. Consular Clerk at Cairo, Egypt, prepared a detailed report in August, 1880 on the history of the treaty arrangements (so-called capitulations) between the Muslim Ottoman Empire, European nations, and the much briefer U.S.-Ottoman experience. Van Dycks report written specifically as a tool for State Department diplomats opens with an informed, clear, and remarkably concise explanation of jihad and Islamic law. (Irans Final Solution for Israel, Page 74)
The Muslim jurists teach that Muslim rulers are never to make a lasting peace with unbelievers but can only make temporary truces, to be broken at the pleasure by the prince and in the interest of the believers, Van Dyck wrote in 1880, quoting from the works of Abu al-Hussein el-Quduri of the Hanafite School of doctors, who died in 1037 A.D.
This is a cardinal principle of Islamic law, not just something from Muhammads lore or Muhammads past, Bostom told WND. This is Islamic law. Muhammad is just cited as the precedent for it, but its embedded in their law that you dont engage in any sort of negotiation or treaty unless youre in some position of weakness; otherwise, you just keep waging jihad.
The 1880 State Department document lays it all out there, all the facts, Bostom said. But that was back when we still had knowledgeable people, actually educated people, handling things in our government.
Peace with ones enemies is never the end-game for those who follow Islamic law, Richardson said, but the Obama administration is either ignorant of this principle or willfully cooperating with it.
Yasser Arafat caught red-handed employing Hudaibiya
He points to another case in modern history where the Hudaibiya card was played against the Israelis.
In May 1994, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat addressed a group of Muslims in Johannesburg, South Africa. Arafat didnt know he was being secretly recorded. At this time, things were looking good for the Middle East peace process. During this speech, Arafat spoke of the ongoing jihad to liberate Jerusalem.
Those Israelis who had trusted Arafats previous promises of peace and goodwill were stunned. But even more damaging to the peace process were Arafats comments about the treaty of Hudaibyah, Richardson said.
Referring to the peace pact hed only recently made with Israel, Arafat was recorded as saying: I see this agreement as being no more than the agreement signed between our Prophet Muhammad and the Quraysh in Mecca. The prophet had been right to insist on the agreement, for it helped him defeat the Quraysh and take over their city of Mecca. In a similar spirit, we now accept the peace agreement, but [only in order] to continue on the road to Jerusalem.
They danced circles around our president
The Iranian regime, perhaps better than any in the Middle East, knows how to play the long game, Richardson said. They are brilliant strategists. Today, they are celebrating the gullibility of the Obama administration in making such significant concessions, and agreeing (purportedly) to lift sanctions. They danced circles around our president.
It is no coincidence that Obamas deal with Iran last 10 years, precisely like Muhammads so-called treaty with the Qurayshis.
After the 10 years, the Iranians would then be free to continue work on their nuclear weapons, according to a Wall Street Journal report.
The problem is, they will never actually stop, Richardson said, citing a Times of Israel report. They will continue work on day one.
Our president has been taken, the American people have been made fools, and the security of Israel has been sacrificed on the altar of Obamas legacy. That legacy however is already dissipating in thin air even before the ink is dry.
Persia comes back to bite
Carl Gallups, author of Final Warning, sees prophetic significance in Obamas preliminary deal with Iran.
The Iran/Obama deal that has been drafted thus far appears absolutely ludicrous to many, he told WND. It seems as though it is an agreement only attained when the crafty ones with whom you are negotiating get a whiff of your fear, your trepidation, your weakness.
The comparison to the treaty of Hudaibiyah is especially profound when considering the fact that Iran is the modern name for the heartland of the ancient Persian Empire. It is from the modern region of todays Iran that Persian emperor Cyrus the Great united the Medes and other Iranian empires, and then further expanded Persian influence by swallowing up the decaying Babylonian empire.
Of course, it was also from the ancient Persian Empire where the decree to kill all the Jews in the land was signed into effect by King Artaxerxes through the plot of his viceroy, Haman, Gallups said. It seems to many prophecy watchers of today that those attitudes of ancient Persia might have come full circle.
The majority of Israelis certainly fear so, re-electing Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu as their prime minister last month. A week before that election, he made the landmark speech to the U.S. Congress on March 3, which is the Fast of Esther on the Hebrew calendar.
Who can forget Netanyahus biblical overtones when he addressed the U.S. Congress? In that speech, he made the direct parallel between ancient Persia, modern Iran, and Irans current and expressed desire to destroy Israel, Gallups noted.
Netanyahu said: Were an ancient people. In our nearly 4,000 years of history, many have tried repeatedly to destroy the Jewish people. Tomorrow night, on the Jewish holiday of Purim, well read the Book of Esther. Well read of a powerful Persian viceroy named Haman, who plotted to destroy the Jewish people some 2,500 years ago.
Netanyahu was already aware that back in 2014 the commander of the Basij militia of Irans Revolutionary Guards, Reza Naqdi, announced that Iran was escalating its efforts to arm West Bank Palestinians for war against Israel, according to the Times of Israel. He went on to declare this action would ultimately lead to Israels annihilation.
Parallels to Esther, Haman
Then theres the fact that the six world powers and Iran announced they had reached a framework for a deal on April 2, which was Nisan 13 on the Hebrew calendar.
Esther 3:12, 13, says that on Nisan 13 the Persian king Ahasuerus was tricked by a viceroy, Haman, into signing an agreement to destroy all the Jews in the land at a future date. This was also the day before the third of three blood moons, or lunar eclipses. Blood moons often mean war is coming to Israel, according to Jewish sages.
It was not long after Netanyahus speech to Congress that Naqdi then proclaimed erasing Israel off the map is nonnegotiable.
It is not a new revelation to Netanyahu, or much of the rest of the world for that matter, that the ultimate destruction of Israel is Irans passionate and apocalyptically driven end game, Gallups said. Apparently, Obama missed the memo somewhere along the way. Some speculate that Obama is actually, knowingly or unknowingly, fueling the fires of that ominous and highly potential scenario.
The opening words of the treaty of Hudaibiyah are: In your name, O God! This is the treaty of peace between Muhammad Ibn Abdullah and Suhayl ibn Amr. They have agreed to allow their arms to rest for ten years. During this time each party shall be secure, and neither shall injure the other; no secret damage shall be inflicted, but honesty and honour shall prevail between them. (Learning Islam 8. Islamic Services Foundation. 2009. P. D14.)
Those words could have easily been copied into the current Iranian agreement, Gallups believes. Now we learn, after the current Obama/Iran deal has been negotiated, that Iran will begin using its latest generation IR-8 centrifuges as soon as its nuclear deal with the world powers goes into effect.
Netanyahu denounced the deal as a historic mistake. He warned the agreement bore the terrible chance of causing a horrific war. The fear is that the deal will leave much of Irans nuclear infrastructure intact while not addressing Irans support for hostile militant groups in the region.
Netanyahu also insisted that any final agreement with Iran must contain a clear and unambiguous recognition of Israels right to exist. At this point, it does not appear this stipulation is anywhere in the agreement.
Irans President Hassan Rohani said in a national address last Friday that the Iranians will remain loyal and stand by the promises they made, and that they do not seek to deceive the international community.
Richardson, Bostom and Gallups will be watching.
Apr 10, 2015 00:17:51 #
I TOOK MOOSLIME HISTORY FOR A YEAR. THE PROF. AND I SQUARED OFF THE FIRST DAY, AND NEVER STOPPED. THESE SCUMBAGS WILL LIE AND LIE AND LIE. IT MEANS NOTHING TO THEM.
OBAMA GOT DUPED, AND WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT!!
true patriot
OBAMA GOT DUPED, AND WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT!!
true patriot
Liberty's Advocate wrote:
Many of us have been screaming for the past severa... (show quote)
Apr 10, 2015 00:53:20 #
alex
Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
larrypuckett1939 wrote:
I TOOK MOOSLIME HISTORY FOR A YEAR. THE PROF. AND I SQUARED OFF THE FIRST DAY, AND NEVER STOPPED. THESE SCUMBAGS WILL LIE AND LIE AND LIE. IT MEANS NOTHING TO THEM.
OBAMA GOT DUPED, AND WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT!!
true patriot
OBAMA GOT DUPED, AND WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT!!
true patriot
your biggest mistake is obozo didn't get duped he got exactly what he wanted
Apr 10, 2015 12:56:29 #
alex wrote:
your biggest mistake is obozo didn't get duped he got exactly what he wanted
I share your distrust of this man, and Red State today had this to say about Obama's lying to the American people, too, concerning the Iranian Nuclear agreement:
"Since announcing the nuclear weapons deal with Iran, weve documented numerous instances where Obama blatantly and callously lied about the substance of the deal in communications to Congress and the American people. For example:
http://www.redstate.com/2015/04/06/iran-us-agreed-immediate-lift-sanctions/
http://www.redstate.com/2015/04/03/iran-accuses-obama-lying-nuclear-weapons-deal/
http://www.redstate.com/2015/04/03/obama-lies-iranian-fatwa-nuclear-weapons/
In the past three days other developments have taken place that demonstrate the extent to which Obama has lied about what the deal says.
The Iranian Defense Minister has said that the agreement does not allow inspection of nuclear facilities on military installations.
Irans Defense Minister Brigadier General Hossein Dehqan categorically rejected as a lie a Guardian report alleging that Tehran has granted access to its military facilities under the recent framework agreement with the world powers.
No such agreement has been made; principally speaking, visit to military centers is among our redlines and no such visit will be accepted, Gen. Dehqan stressed on Wednesday, rejecting the report by foreign media outlets, such as the Guardian as untruthful allegations.
This calls into question exactly which facilities will be inspected and how undeclared facilities will be uncovered. It is worth keeping in mind that this has been Irans position from the beginning.
Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khameini has said that Obamas fact sheet is not what Iran agreed to:
Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Thursday he neither backed nor rejected an interim accord with six world powers on Tehrans disputed nuclear program but demanded all sanctions be lifted immediately once a final agreement was concluded.
He added in a televised speech that the details of the accord would be decisive, and the publication of a US fact sheet showing terms that were at variance with the Iranian view of the agreement showed devilish US intentions.
I neither support nor oppose it, he said. Everything is in the details; it may be that the deceptive other side wants to restrict us in the details.
And now the White House has admitted that it has embellished the terms of the agreement:
American officials acknowledge that they did not inform the Iranians in advance of all the parameters the United States would make public in an effort to lock in progress made so far, as well as to strengthen the White Houses case against any move by members of Congress to impose more sanctions against Iran.
We talked to them and told them that we would have to say some things, said a senior administration official who could not be identified under the protocol for briefing reporters. We didnt show them the paper. We didnt show them the whole list.
This is stunning in its duplicity. Not only is Obama keeping Congress in the dark about the negotiations but it is deliberately lying to Congress as it pushes to finalize the agreement."
Apr 10, 2015 14:30:44 #
THEY ARE ALL LIARS! I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THEM,
AND WE SHOULD RELIEVE OURSELVES OF THE POMPOUS
POS THAT SITS IN OUR WHITE HOUSE!!
true patriot
AND WE SHOULD RELIEVE OURSELVES OF THE POMPOUS
POS THAT SITS IN OUR WHITE HOUSE!!
true patriot
Liberty's Advocate wrote:
I share your distrust of this man, and Red State t... (show quote)
Apr 13, 2015 03:43:09 #
ALEX,
I STAND CORRECTED!
MOLON LABE
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
I STAND CORRECTED!
MOLON LABE
alex wrote:
your biggest mistake is obozo didn't get duped he got exactly what he wanted
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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