Loki Loc: Georgia

This is an article by Leo Hohmann, in which the BATFEs typical selective enforcement and "ride 'em cowboy, make it up as you go" approach to law enforcement is once more revealed.
The AR-15 rifle is one of the most popular firearms in the U.S. for target shooting and hunting.
President Obama’s drive to ban a popular form of ammunition used in the AR-15 and other rifles is drawing new fire from conservative groups representing gun owners as well as members of Congress.

A lawsuit has been threatened by the Second Amendment Foundation, which says the ploy is a backdoor attempt to do what the administration has failed to do through legislation — ban the AR-15.

But the battle is heating up on both sides of the issue in Congress.

Rep. Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., has sent a letter to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF, demanding an explanation for the proposed ban. Goodlatte’s letter opposing the ban has the support of 238 House members. He called the ban “preposterous.”

Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney, D-N.Y., a proponent of efforts to curb “gun violence,” is circulating a letter to members in support of the bureau’s bid to classify the 5.56mm M855 round as “armor piercing” and take it off the market, the Washington Examiner reported.

“It is prudent to consider the likely use of ammunition in these non-sporting handguns, and the danger they present to law enforcement officers and our communities,” Maloney said in the letter.

Maloney fought to ban the AR-15 rifle and similar weapons in a failed attempt back in 2013. Conservatives see the latest move by the Obama administration as a sneaky attempt to do the same thing, rendering the weapons effectively useless by removing ammunition from the market.

The Second Amendment Foundations’ general counsel sent a letter to the ATF Director B. Todd Jones Wednesday warning that legal action will be taken to bar any change in the law regarding the ammunition used in America’s most popular sporting rifle.

Writing for SAF, general counsel Miko Tempski informed Jones:

“This proposal is just an attempt to limit firearms rights because the president’s other such attempts have been blocked through constitutional checks and balances on his power.

“Should the BATFE lawlessly proceed on this path,” Tempski warns, “SAF intends to call on those checks and balances to stop the administration’s executive overreach again.”

Tempski’s three-page letter dissects the BATFE proposal, noting repeatedly that the .223-caliber, M855 ball ammunition at the center of this controversy “is not armor piercing pursuant to the definition in the statute.”

The technical definition of “armor piercing” is a bullet with a steel core. The M855 ball round has a steel tip, but the core is made of lead.

The federal provisions requires that a cartridge fire a “full jacketed projectile large than .22-caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun,” or to otherwise be fit for use in a handgun and have a core “entirely constructed” from a specific list of prohibited metals, including steel, bronze, brass, iron, copper or depleted uranium.

Tempski explained in his letter that the M855 round does not meet either of these criteria. He said the first definition, “fails immediately as the 5.56 x 45 mm round is not designed and intended for use in a handgun,” and he questioned the ATF’s honesty with regard to the second definition, noting that a “small tip of steel making up less than one-sixth of the projectile cannot be used to claim the bullet or its core are ‘entirely’ steel.”

The intention of Congress in writing the legislation in 1986 was to prevent so-called “cop-killer” bullets from being used in easily obtained handguns. Former Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, one of the sponsors, said it was never intended to affect sporting rifles.

image: http://www.wnd.com/files/2015/03/ar-15-pistol.jpg

The semi-auto AR-15 handgun is larger than a typical street gun and difficult to conceal.
The semi-auto AR-15 handgun is larger than a typical street gun and difficult to conceal.
While there is a handgun version of the AR-15 rifle, it is very expensive and not easily concealed. It weighs about six pounds and is two feet long.

The White House, joined by Maloney and other Democrats in Congress, have said the .223-caliber or 5.56mm ammo should be banned because it can be fired from a handgun platform and is a danger to police officers.

WND reported previously that no police officer has ever had his soft-body armor penetrated by a criminal using an AR-15 handgun in the United States. In fact, police themselves are not in favor of the ban.

The executive director of the national Fraternal Order of Police, James Pasco, said police aren’t threatened by the ammo or pistol because none have been used against police.

“Any ammunition is of concern to police in the wrong hands, but this specific round has historically not posed a law enforcement problem,” said Pasco, whose organization represents 325,000 law officers.

“The proposed framework,” Tempski writes to the ATF, “intends to define the intended purpose of ammunition based on the availability of certain types of handguns made for it. Such a circular definition is highly illogical in any context.”

WND also reported Gun Owners of America Chief Counsel Michael Hammond says the citizen revolt is already underway.

“The Second Amendment community is really all fired up on this,” he told WND.

A description of the proposed rule change can be found on the ATF’s website.

The public comment period remains open through March 16. Comments may be submitted comments in several ways:

Email: APAComments@atf.gov
Fax: (202) 648-9741.

Mail: Denise Brown, Mailstop 6N-602, Office of Regulatory Affairs, Enforcement Programs and Services, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, 99 New York Avenue, NE, Washington, DC 20226: ATTN: AP Ammo Comments.


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/firing-back-shootout-over-ammo-ban-gets-serious/#rYvMOX0zuqT3isK3.99

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Banning this ammunition is just another way of control over the people and we all know Obama loves control.

johnson90

Today, Barack Obama is changing times and laws in America, giving himself unprecedented power
never before seen. His ObamaCare bill. now the law of the land, empowers him to create his own
private army, forces citizens to abide by unconstitutional laws, and will use the IRS in much the same
way that Hitler used his brown shirts to make people get in line behind his policies. Many Americans
will awake to late to the fact that Obama has subverted the United States Constitution, and stolen
our precious liberties and freedoms. That's why Obama's followers are encouraged and taught to
follow and have faith in Obama the man, and not in our God or in our country. This is exactly the
ploy that Hitler used to great and terrible effect in Nazi Germany.


•
Both Hitler and Obama held rallies in outdoor stadiums to excite and inflame the people's passions. Frequently women would faint or break into tears.
•
Both Hitler and Obama wrote ghost-written autobiographies prior to the start of their run for political office. Hitler wrote Mein Kampf (My Struggle), and Obama wrote Dreams Of My Father. Both men then wrote a second book talking about their goals
for German and America. Hitler wrote A New World Order, and Obama wrote The Audacity of Hope.
•
Both Hitler and Obama originally had last names that were changed later in life. Hitler used to be Schickelbruber, and Obama's last name was Soetoro.
•
Both Hitler and Obama hid their real identies. Hiter had a Jewish ancestry, and Obama
a Muslim one. But unlike Hitler, Obama flaunted his Muslim roots in his start as a politician in order to defuse the inevitable firestorm. His ploy of "hiding in plain sight" worked very well.

•
Both Hitler and Obama's supporters followed them blindly, and without question
•
Both Hitler and Obama used political power and coercion to conceal and hide their birth certificates from coming to public view. Hitler made his disappear, and Obama is unwilling and unable to produce his long-form birth certificate.
•
Both Hitler and Obama advocate using young people as a driving force to create an "army" of youth dedicated to their Ideals. Hitler had his Hitler Youth, and Obama his
Obama Youth Brigade.

•
Both Hitler and Obama were known for their tremendous oratorical skills
•
Both Hitler and Obama received Messianic comparisons, and both men had songs of adoration written about them and for them.
•
Like Hitler, Obama rules in direct disregard to the will and wishes of the people.
•
Like Hitler, Obama has an obvious distaste for the Jews, and sides with the Muslims every chance he gets.
•
Both Hitler and Obama were able to mezmerize the people even when it was obvious that what they were saying was not true.
•
Both Hitler and Obama used domestic terrorists to launch their careers. Hitler had his Brown Shirts from his beer hall days, and Obama had people like Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and Rashid Khalidi.
•
Like Hitler, Obama advocates using murder as a means of population control.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Are you saying you don't like Obama, it's his color right?

The first thing a liberal will say it's his color or he wants to give to those who need and he has good intentions.

I'd have to say you know his intentions better than the liberals do but I agree with all you posted!