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Feb 21, 2015 01:34:03   #
rumitoid
 
This is not meant to be a poke at conservatives. It should be considered an opportunity to respond with why you seem "at war with" or against many things but may actually have positive reasons.

I will list some examples:
-against gay rights
-against a women's right to choose
-against the minimum wage
-against extending benefits to the unemployed in a recognized financial crisis
-against welfare
-against the Federal Reserve
-against the EPA
-against Public Education
-against Social Security
-against taxing the rich
-against regulations on Wall Street
-against Stimulus plans
-against religious freedom (except for Christians)
-against evolution
-against science
-against me being named king of the universe (this last one is especially irksome and inexplicable)

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Feb 21, 2015 02:52:20   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Nothing honest about any of that. It's a set-up if ever there was one. Sorry, I ain't taking the bait.

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Feb 21, 2015 03:37:23   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
C A U T I O N!!!!!

This is a set up.......the question is like...Do you still beat your dog.... or worse, Does this dress make my behind like fatter?

No right answer... each response will damn the responder.

I am with you Blade.... !!!


Blade_Runner wrote:
Nothing honest about any of that. It's a set-up if ever there was one. Sorry, I ain't taking the bait.

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Feb 21, 2015 03:57:37   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
Pennylynn wrote:
C A U T I O N!!!!!

This is a set up.......the question is like...Do you still beat your dog.... or worse, Does this dress make my behind like fatter?

No right answer... each response will damn the responder.

I am with you Blade.... !!!


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:roll: :roll: :roll: I almost took his bait, again. Thanks Penny and Blade. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 21, 2015 03:59:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
You are more than welcome.
Mom8052 wrote:
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:roll: :roll: :roll: I almost took his bait, again. Thanks Penny and Blade. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :-D :-D :-D :-D

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Feb 21, 2015 04:51:59   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Pennylynn wrote:
C A U T I O N!!!!!

This is a set up.......the question is like...Do you still beat your dog.... or worse, Does this dress make my behind like fatter?

No right answer... each response will damn the responder.

I am with you Blade.... !!!


It isn't the dress (or pants) doesn't seem to be the correct answer either. At least in my case it wasn't.

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Feb 21, 2015 04:55:42   #
Antisocialist Loc: Florida
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Does this dress make my behind like fatter?


Many innocent men have lost their lives over that question.

I'll pass too.

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Feb 21, 2015 06:58:03   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
I know why others aren't bothering with this - they have things to do. I, OTOH, have lots of time and will tell the world why the political right does and thinks as it does.

-against gay rights - because it is decadent and the political right exercises morality
-against a women's right to choose - all Americans have the same rights. A woman can choose to refrain from sex and prevent pregnancy......or she can choose to risk pregnancy. She has NO RIGHT to murder as NO Amerian has the right to murder
-against the minimum wage - because it is government interference in private business AND government tinkering ALWAYS creates problems and drives up costs. Minimum wage is designed to help people get started in a working life - it is NOT retirement geared and should not be.
-against extending benefits to the unemployed in a recognized financial crisis- because it PROLONGS the financial crisis and skews facts re workers/jobs
-against welfare - one of the lowest forms of cruelty ever perpetrated by government to keep the masses as slaves to the government. It is an initiative killer, but it keeps the slaves voting the way the democrats NEED them to vote.[/color]
-against the Federal Reserve- it is a private company dictating citizens' money and our economy. It has destroyed our economy. No reason to favor it.
-against Public Education Because it doesn't "educate"; it propagandizes for the political left and is turning out ignorance rather than excellence.
-against Social Security because it makes paupers of people who, if they could invest that in private companies of their choosing, could become wealthy. A very good form of people control by the political left.
-against taxing the rich They are already taxed, more so than the rest of us. The political left might want to once in a while think about gnawing off the hand that feeds them - or it would were it not so craven and self-centered.
-against regulations on Wall Street I pass on this one. Don't know enough about it to give an opinion.
-against Stimulus plansmoney down the toilet plus pay back for favors to said politician
-against religious freedom (except for Christians)This one is an outright lie. No one on the right is against religious freedom, knowing full well that religions that murder are not true religions but are cults
-against evolution I don't understand "against" evolution. Of course evolution exists, proven fact. What is NOT proven fact, and never will be, is that humans evolved from a lower form of life. Why should humans evolve when they are already considered by some to be the highest form of life?
-against me being named king of the universe (this last one is especially irksome and inexplicable)Because if you were king of the universe it would make Obama mad .......you would be in HIS seat. NOT a safe place to be, IMHO.

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Feb 21, 2015 13:07:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Tasine wrote:
I know why others aren't bothering with this - they have things to do. I, OTOH, have lots of time and will tell the world why the political right does and thinks as it does.
Couldn't restrain yourself, hey? You fell for it.

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Feb 22, 2015 03:46:39   #
rumitoid
 
Tasine wrote:
I know why others aren't bothering with this - they have things to do. I, OTOH, have lots of time and will tell the world why the political right does and thinks as it does.

-against gay rights - because it is decadent and the political right exercises morality
-against a women's right to choose - all Americans have the same rights. A woman can choose to refrain from sex and prevent pregnancy......or she can choose to risk pregnancy. She has NO RIGHT to murder as NO Amerian has the right to murder
-against the minimum wage - because it is government interference in private business AND government tinkering ALWAYS creates problems and drives up costs. Minimum wage is designed to help people get started in a working life - it is NOT retirement geared and should not be.
-against extending benefits to the unemployed in a recognized financial crisis- because it PROLONGS the financial crisis and skews facts re workers/jobs
-against welfare - one of the lowest forms of cruelty ever perpetrated by government to keep the masses as slaves to the government. It is an initiative killer, but it keeps the slaves voting the way the democrats NEED them to vote.[/color]
-against the Federal Reserve- it is a private company dictating citizens' money and our economy. It has destroyed our economy. No reason to favor it.
-against Public Education Because it doesn't "educate"; it propagandizes for the political left and is turning out ignorance rather than excellence.
-against Social Security because it makes paupers of people who, if they could invest that in private companies of their choosing, could become wealthy. A very good form of people control by the political left.
-against taxing the rich They are already taxed, more so than the rest of us. The political left might want to once in a while think about gnawing off the hand that feeds them - or it would were it not so craven and self-centered.
-against regulations on Wall Street I pass on this one. Don't know enough about it to give an opinion.
-against Stimulus plansmoney down the toilet plus pay back for favors to said politician
-against religious freedom (except for Christians)This one is an outright lie. No one on the right is against religious freedom, knowing full well that religions that murder are not true religions but are cults
-against evolution I don't understand "against" evolution. Of course evolution exists, proven fact. What is NOT proven fact, and never will be, is that humans evolved from a lower form of life. Why should humans evolve when they are already considered by some to be the highest form of life?
-against me being named king of the universe (this last one is especially irksome and inexplicable)Because if you were king of the universe it would make Obama mad .......you would be in HIS seat. NOT a safe place to be, IMHO.
I know why others aren't bothering with this - the... (show quote)


Thank you Tasine. That it was what I was hoping for in posting. That fear defeated all other responses is truly sad. "You ain't gonna catch me responding honestly and passionately about things: they ain't making me to be a fool." Too friggn funny, sorry.

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Feb 22, 2015 09:09:18   #
Dragnet
 
rumitoid wrote:
This is not meant to be a poke at conservatives. It should be considered an opportunity to respond with why you seem "at war with" or against many things but may actually have positive reasons.

I will list some examples:
-against gay rights
-against a women's right to choose
-against the minimum wage
-against extending benefits to the unemployed in a recognized financial crisis
-against welfare
-against the Federal Reserve
-against the EPA
-against Public Education
-against Social Security
-against taxing the rich
-against regulations on Wall Street
-against Stimulus plans
-against religious freedom (except for Christians)
-against evolution
-against science
-against me being named king of the universe (this last one is especially irksome and inexplicable)
This is not meant to be a poke at conservatives. I... (show quote)




Sounds great to me, my friend. What a great country we would if we were all against this most topics on this list.

Government does not solve problems, it creates them.
Just what problem has the "anointed one" solved?

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Feb 22, 2015 09:45:58   #
DamnYANKEE
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Nothing honest about any of that. It's a set-up if ever there was one. Sorry, I ain't taking the bait.


I will no longer respond to rumorturd . not worth the effort , same goes for dj . no longer worth educating them with the Truth , on Any subject matter . Its as Bad as hearing RAP . And the Stars and Stripes . Which I USED to get . Is nothing but a Mullet Wrapper

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Feb 22, 2015 09:55:32   #
jetson
 
You are a bright star on here. I stop responding to him a while back. He just creates dung and wants the rest on here to stir it up.

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Feb 22, 2015 10:22:34   #
c.murray132
 
Conservativeism is for limited government.

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Feb 22, 2015 14:09:06   #
Jeffersonian
 
This is going to be long because, I believe there is a great misunderstanding of what a conservative believes or thinks. The way the list is made, it looks more like baiting than a desire to understand, but I am going to take the author at his word. Here goes.

-against gay rights
Conservatives are not against gays having rights as we define rights as being "natural" or "God given." Conservatives cannot, nor should we, deny those rights. In most cases, we oppose gays being "married," not because they shouldn't form loving, long term relationships, but because we feel that "marriage" is reserved for man and woman. Also, the social conservative sees this as an assault on Christian ( and most other religions) values and detrimental to the basic family unit (this point probably less important).

-against a women's right to choose
A woman has a right to choose; it is a natural right. Social conservatives feel that it is not appropriate to kill unborn children. The debate about when life begins is settled with the social conservative. Life begins at conception.

-against the minimum wage
Actually, most conservatives are not against a minimum wage as much as we are against turning the minimum wage into a counterproductive social welfare program. My first job was minimum wage; the key being that it didn't stay minimum as I worked and proved my worth. Minimum wage is an entry level wage which by definition means it should not be a "living" wage. If the minimum is too high, there is no incentive to work hard and advance or improve oneself and get a higher paying job. Too high a minimum is nothing more than workfare and will only produce a permanent underclass of low wage, unincentivised workers forever dependent on the government that put them in that position.

-against extending benefits to the unemployed in a recognized financial crisis
Again, having a social safety net is important in bad financial times; however, the safety net should not be so large and all encompassing so as to destroy the incentive to obtaining employment. The longer the unemployment exists; the longer it takes to bring about a return to full employment. Part of our labor problems now are due to workers not even looking for work but still drawing unemployment benefits.

-against welfare
Look at the previous two explanations. Welfare should be an assist to those in need; however, welfare as become a lifestyle for many. The people, who live comfortably on welfare by abusing the system, are far too many and represent a drain on community resources that easily could be used for infrastructure or allocated to other worthy safety net needs.

-against the Federal Reserve
The central banking system, not just in the U.S., is in a precarious position trying to support economies built on massive debt against limited means of repayment. Conservatives want the Fed reorganized and subject to annual public audits. We recognize there is a need for a central bank, but want a bank that is answerable to the people not the politicians that gave them their power.

-against the EPA
Does the EPA make sense when it produces regulations based on science that is not proven or conclusive? Science is so divide on environmental issues, how can the EPA make the judgments they do without the impetuous being political expediency. The rules made by the EPA do more to inhibit our technology that allowing our technology to solve problems. In the meantime, the cost of everything skyrockets unnecessarily and our economy is further hindered from growth and stability. The amount of money the American citizen can pay is finite; all the EPA does is suck money from everybody. There certainly must be a better way.

-against Public Education
I am a former public school educator. I personally am very much in favor of public education that is not controlled by the Federal Government. Return control to the local school boards and the parents who elect them. Public education is this country was at one time the envy of the world. It needs to return to its roots of educating without social engineering or propagandizing political philosophy.

-against Social Security
Conservatives are not against Social Security. We want it removed from the general budget and returned to its own separate trust fund. Return it to a genuine retirement savings plan and remove all the extras that have been hung on it such as disability which has become an income source for a lot of lawyers and people that could legitimately contribute to society.

-against taxing the rich
Its not that conservatives are against taxing the rich as the top 5% of earners in this country pay close to 85% of all taxes. It is that the "rich" are the captains of our industry; they are the ones who make the investments and take the risks of building our economy through the Capitalist system we use. They are entitled to the rewards of their effort. And while there are bad capitalists in the group, they are not stealing money from anyone who is willing to go out and earn it. Raising taxes on the rich only serves to take resources out of the economy that would otherwise be invested to grow the economy.

-against regulations on Wall Street
-against Stimulus plans
These two are so similar, and are opposite sides of the same issue. Conservatives are against over regulation or government over reach. Some regulation is needed, but two much regulation stifles economic productivity, interferes with the normal business cycle, and generally does not protect against the abused the rules are designed to curb. Abuse is going to happen because there are people who will do anything to make a dime. Regulations also tend to favor one business over another and creates artificial competition. It is exactly the same with stimulus; all the evils of over regulation with super sized cronyism. General Motors should have been allowed to fail under protection of bankruptcy law. The Chevrolet would have still been here, but a badly managed and bloated corporation would have reorganized.

-against religious freedom (except for Christians)
Religious tolerance is supported by conservatives. Religious intolerance is not. If you don't want to pry, fine. Don't tell me I can't.

-against evolution
-against science
Evolution exists. Creation exists. Why can't they coexist? Just don't legislate one over the other. Science and Religion are polar opposites. What is observable is always different from what is accepted on faith. See above.

-against me being named king of the universe (this last one is especially irksome and inexplicable)
You can't be named King of the Universe because I already am.

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