Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Jack,

You are aware that the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were occupied primarily by Ammonite people.... The Ammonites were a Semitic people, closely related to the Israelites.

That aside, I agree with you that we have moved away from God.....and I think (just a personal view) that He is not going to put up with us much longer!

GRB777

There're not sweetlips; this person makes the same mistake millions of others make. They omit major portions from the bible that speak the truth.

Read Genesis 35:24 thru 28. Judah was the 4th born of 12 brothers. They all had families; those families are separate nations today.

When GOD made a covenant with Israel; he made it with all the tribes of Israel.He made it with all the brothers , and that would carry thru with those grownup, modern nations of this day. Read this in Exodus 19:3 thru 8.

There are over 30 times in the old testament where the bible makes the distinction between Judah and Israel. The first time is II Kings 16:5; Judah is at war with Israel. Another is Ex. 9:9. I'm not going to list them all; you get the point. Judah is not the Israel of the bible.

That little , trouble making, country in the middle east is Judah, not Israel. The bible makes it clear.

By the way the disciples were not Jews, they were Galileans, looked down upon by the Jews.

When Jesus Christ was arrested; Peter was accused of being one of his followers because of his speech. In other words his accent gave him away; it wasn't a Jewish accent, but Galilean.

The Apostle Paul states in Hebrews 11:1 and 2 that he was an Israelite of the tribe of Benjamin; not a Jew. Benjamin today is the modern nation of Norway. There is much more.

She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia

My God does not have a chosen people. All people are held in the same regard. So the concept is foreign to me. If one group of people,by nothing more than the virtue of their birth, are the chosen people of a God, why would anyone else worship that God? Does it not stand to reason that the commandments are meant for the chosen people?

There are other faiths other than Christianity or the Jewish faith. I feel since most of the doctrines have more in common then different, interpretation could be the problem. I look at all faiths as roads to God. As more than one highway reaches the same city, more than one religion brings you closer to God.

I believe God tries to communicate with each group of people on a level they can comprehend. The Bible, the Torah, or other religions' holy books are God's word to those people. My holy books are God's word to my people. If you compare them, most have the same basic rules. It is when man tries to interpret that the problems begin.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

So you are a student of the Khazarian Hypothesis and a follower of Texe Marrs the founder and outspoken anti-Semitic minister of Power of Prophecy Ministries. He seems to be a busy man lately. With his support of Hamas.....

fredlott63

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: whatever a man sows he will reap.
Galatians 6:7

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

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Oliver Loc: Dayton, OH

Does a coin have only one side?

God much prefers to move according to mercy; but when man rejects His mercy, man is left with nothing but condemnation and judgment:
a. God was merciful and waited over a hundred years for the people of Noah's day to repent but they refused and experienced His judgment.
b. God was about to judge Nineveh when they repented of all their evil works and God in His mercy spared them.
c. Question: Will America repent of all its evil works (abortion, homosexuality, sorceries, anti-Christian laws, etc., etc..)? It is very doubtful for in America's eyes she has nothing to repent of.

Jeremiah 18:6-10 was prophesied against Israel but is very apropos to any nation, including the USA"
"Oh house of [America], cannot I do with you as the potter? says the Lord. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are you in My hand, O house of [America]. At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation [any nation including our own], and concerning a kingdom, to pluck it up, and pull it down, and to destroy it; if that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of that evil that I thought to do unto them. And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and plant it; if it do evil in my sight, that it obey not My voice, then I will repent of the good wherewith I said I would benefit them."

Unfortunately, verse 12 records Israel's reply to their God: "We will walk after our own devices and everyone of us will do whatever we imagine to do in our hearts!" Is this not the same reply our national and state governments are saying to God?

Israel rejected God's mercy and came face to face with God's judgment via the Assyrians (Now Syrians) and the Babylonians (now Iranians).

If God had shown such mercy and judgment on His own people, how much more will He show the same mercy and judgment on any nation including America.

Love, if it isn't tempered with judgment is non-accountable; and judgment, if not tempered by love is dictatorial.

God's message to America is the same as His message to the Church at Ephesus: "...I have somewhat against you, because you have left your first love. Remember therefore from whence you have fallen and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto you quickly and will remove [you] out of [your] place, except you repent." Revelation 2:4-5

Alicia Loc: NYC

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I do believe you have the situation reversed. It was Netanyahu who came to this country in order to have an affect on our Republican Congress. President Obama did not take a trip to Israel. Any affect the N visit results in is N's own doing. He was warned by his advisers not to make the trip. There is no reason for the U.S. to be involved in Israel's elections and President Obama is staying clear of it. Because of his audacity, I do hope N loses the election.

Israel is beholden to the U.S. financially and only Netanyahu overstepped his border. President Obama did show his disapproval of the N visit and showed it by not inviting N to the WH.

If someone comes into my neighborhood to visit someone else and unannounced to me, I do not feel obligated to invite him to my home. Would you invite someone to your home who has slapped your face and attempted to make a fool of you?

The 47 Republican Senators, in their letter to Iran, were attempting to cause interference in peace talks. Should anything negative happen to this country, they are to blame for their lack of intelligent thought and stupidity. I'd like to see them brought up on charges of treason.

Alicia Loc: NYC

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Thank you for stressing the similarities of various beliefs. All of humanity are equal and blessed equally regardless of their choice of name for their god.

You are a rare person and it is a pleasure to read your posts as most others are evilly stressing the differences between peoples rather than embracing all of humanity. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :wink:

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

The God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob says different,

http://davidsonpress.com/salvation/salvation2.htm

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

The prodigal son returned to his family and was welcomed back because he was going to behave himself from then on. Had he come back celebrating his many bad deeds, he might have been welcomed for a short while but when the family or tribe discovered he was still doing all the same things that damaged other people's lives and disrupted the tribe, he would have been thrown out again,. Today we are supposed to celebrate the return of the sinner and honor him for his sinful ways, allow him to continue and perhaps even joined him in his sinful ways. Any other approach would be considered "hateful"

Oliver Loc: Dayton, OH

Your statement, "I look at all faiths as roads to God." shows that the authority from which you make this statement comes from you (" I look...) and not scripture.

Scripture on the other hand, says something completely opposite as spoken by Christ concerning Himself: "I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life; no man comes unto the Father but by Me." John 14:6

No other "faith" throughout the whole known world ever deals with man's sin issue (and many do not even admit to man ever having a sin issue), except for Christianity: "And you, being DEAD in your SINS...has quickened together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses [SINS]; blotting out the handwriting of ordinances against us...and took it out of the way, NAILING IT TO THE CROSS."

The choice then is yours and everyone's to make:
1. Do I accept Christ's one and only offer, or...
2. Do I reject Christ's one and only offer?

Choose wisely, for your fate of all eternity rests on your decision relative to this one issue.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

God ordained government. The chief duties of any country's government is to protect that country's borders and to safeguard its citizens.

The second preoccupation of a legitimate government is to preserve law and order, i.e., tranquility in the land; by maintaining police departments, courts of law, and prisons for convicted criminals.

God forgives sin, through belief in the propitiation of Jesus Christ, promising eternal life in his presence, but during our life on earth, he has ordained the government of men to demand physical justice.

There is no contradiction there.

Unto God that which is His... and unto Caesar, our debts to society.

Oliver Loc: Dayton, OH

Please interpret for me Christ's statement: "I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life; NO man comes to the Father but by Me."

Alicia Loc: NYC

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Sounds a bit weird - certainly egocentric.