rumitoid

From statements and innuendo, it seems most of the posters here are Christian, but only in a Sunday-go-to-church sort of way, which disqualifies you, almost automatically, from answering such a difficult and complex question.

I am asking that responses be limited to only those who truly accept Jesus Chirst as their lord and have what they believe is an understanding of doctrine surrounding this subject of being involved in politics. Truth be told, I expect no responses...other, that is, from tirades.

Let me give you a hint at my stance: Patriotism is a sin...at least from what I see as a proper Christian view.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I will just say I agree with you. The dichotomy of being faithful to the pillars of Christian faith and support one party or the other means you are in violation of the ten commandments. I have grown tired of those who want to inject "God given right" into every discussion. Our country was founded on a very logical set of guiding principles that are valuable in that "the rules" are ambiguous.
I want data and logic not moral compasses guiding my ship.

Kennenney

The best way to answer this question is to see what Jesus had to say. However, in most modern christian churches, if you proclaim that your faith is in Jesus and His completed works, most modern 'christians' would want to kill you. 'Christians' have replaced their 'faith' with worship of Preachers and Teachers because people love to hear Joel Osteen talk about 'getting what YOU want' instead of hearing what Christ said.

Matthew 3
King James Version (KJV)
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

One of the first things Christ says is curses to the Religious people, the Pharisees and Sadducees.

Matthew 22
King James Version (KJV)

17 Tell us therefore, What thinkest thou? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not?

18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?

19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.

20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?

21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

So, according to what Christ said, we are supposed to pay our taxes, not put up Gadsen flags and protest.

Paul says in Romans 13:

Romans 13

King James Version (KJV)

13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil.

So, according to Christ, we are to follow the law of the land and curse the religious people.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

You would need answer my questions, before this post is not blatant hypocrisy and religious hate from you.

LAwrence

No wonder that many people are now believing our constitution is old fashioned and outmoded. It's laws are based on the bible.

Navysnipe Loc: Old West

Read the bible. In the instances where there were good kings in the eyes of God, the people were blessed. When there where bad kings, not so blessed.

Kennenney

What about the hate you have in your heart? Sounds like you go judging people and then try to see if they fit YOUR 'values'.

Ummm...that's called being prejudice. Something G-d hates even more than homosexuality.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

Kennenney, are you talking to yourself?

If you aren't talking to yourself, whose heart are you judging as filled with hate?

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

As it is Sunday, an Amen to you Augustus for noticing that judgmental comment as the quality of our hearts.

PS: Where have you been. I ask, because I have noticed you missing of late.

Kennenney

quote:You would need answer my questions, before this post is not blatant hypocrisy and religious hate from you.

You must be assuming this person doesn't meet your high standards to require an interview before discussing anything. That actually sounds more 'stuck-up' than prejudice. If someone you would feel embarrassed to be around, would you avoid them in the street?

I feel an 80's song coming on.......
"....don't you forget about me......"

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

Kennenney,

I do not grasp his religion. I do not force my understanding of his religion on him. I asked him to tell me, what he meant by "love Jesus Christ" and "follow Jesus Christ with all his heart?"

They are questions I don't know the answers to. Nor have I assumed his silence for an answer.

If he loves Jesus Christ in the manner of a favorite type of ice cream, he'd be forth coming with follow up questions. And less likely to start a new thread bashing other types of ice cream.

rumitoid

Nice, a few intelligent replies and a good amount of angst at the question.

The Ot solutions are not for the NT.

Love, that's it!

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

So asking for more information is "angst," while agreeing without thought is intelligent?

Rumitoid,

Define: Love.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

As a Christian, how can you pass up explaining your faith?

I would suggest you are not able to post on this, under your own guidelines.

JohnGault1939

The United States Constitution is far from being based on the Bible. It is a document with it s roots firmly planted in The Enlightenment. They sought to build a government based on science and with the notion of the perfectibility of Man. God, Christ, or Jesus are not mentioned once in the Constitution. Neither is the Bible nor any Biblical passages.

That the Constitution and our Laws are based on the Bible and the Ten Commandments is a fallacy.