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Apr 17, 2024 06:51:24   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
"Not only did the vast majority of us have no say in choosing the two presidential candidates, a similarly tiny fraction of voters is deciding most of Congress. So far in 2024, nearly a third of U.S. House seats have already been decided by only 3% of eligible votes in the eight states that have held primaries for offices other than the presidency. In 2022, 8% of voters elected 83% of Congress.

Nationwide, there are more independents than Democrats or Republicans. Nearly half of veterans identify as politically independent, as do a majority of young people. Because of our primary system, we’re telling those who fought for our country and those who are the future of our country that their voices don’t matter.

The reason our elected leaders don’t seem to represent us is because, quite literally, most of us don’t elect them.

How do we fix this broken system? With two powerful changes: One, allow all eligible voters – including independents – to cast ballots for any candidate, regardless of party, in every taxpayer-funded election. Two, require candidates to secure a majority of votes to win an election.

https://realclearwire.com/articles/2024/04/16/democracy_dies_in_primaries_150797.html

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Apr 17, 2024 19:03:06   #
LiberalGrammyD
 
ACP45 wrote:
"Not only did the vast majority of us have no say in choosing the two presidential candidates, a similarly tiny fraction of voters is deciding most of Congress. So far in 2024, nearly a third of U.S. House seats have already been decided by only 3% of eligible votes in the eight states that have held primaries for offices other than the presidency. In 2022, 8% of voters elected 83% of Congress.

Nationwide, there are more independents than Democrats or Republicans. Nearly half of veterans identify as politically independent, as do a majority of young people. Because of our primary system, we’re telling those who fought for our country and those who are the future of our country that their voices don’t matter.

The reason our elected leaders don’t seem to represent us is because, quite literally, most of us don’t elect them.

How do we fix this broken system? With two powerful changes: One, allow all eligible voters – including independents – to cast ballots for any candidate, regardless of party, in every taxpayer-funded election. Two, require candidates to secure a majority of votes to win an election.

https://realclearwire.com/articles/2024/04/16/democracy_dies_in_primaries_150797.html
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Yes I love this idea and I think Aggie will too. We are both looking for alternate choices for November and the future. This is what we need to find reps who will work for us and not the Oligarchs.

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Apr 17, 2024 19:14:16   #
Lily
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
Yes I love this idea and I think Aggie will too. We are both looking for alternate choices for November and the future. This is what we need to find reps who will work for us and not the Oligarchs.


I am so tired of the claim about oligarchs. Since they seem to be a lot of your people ‘s boogie man, name them. If you leave Zuckerberg off, it will be a dead giveaway as to your lack of objectivity.

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Apr 17, 2024 19:18:02   #
Lily
 
ACP45 wrote:
"Not only did the vast majority of us have no say in choosing the two presidential candidates, a similarly tiny fraction of voters is deciding most of Congress. So far in 2024, nearly a third of U.S. House seats have already been decided by only 3% of eligible votes in the eight states that have held primaries for offices other than the presidency. In 2022, 8% of voters elected 83% of Congress.

Nationwide, there are more independents than Democrats or Republicans. Nearly half of veterans identify as politically independent, as do a majority of young people. Because of our primary system, we’re telling those who fought for our country and those who are the future of our country that their voices don’t matter.

The reason our elected leaders don’t seem to represent us is because, quite literally, most of us don’t elect them.

How do we fix this broken system? With two powerful changes: One, allow all eligible voters – including independents – to cast ballots for any candidate, regardless of party, in every taxpayer-funded election. Two, require candidates to secure a majority of votes to win an election.

https://realclearwire.com/articles/2024/04/16/democracy_dies_in_primaries_150797.html
"Not only did the b vast majority of us have... (show quote)


Hopefully, that ”majority of the votes” applies only to Congress.

We could go old school and run President and VP as separate candidates, not party ticket.

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Apr 17, 2024 19:29:47   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
ACP45 wrote:
"Not only did the vast majority of us have no say in choosing the two presidential candidates, a similarly tiny fraction of voters is deciding most of Congress. So far in 2024, nearly a third of U.S. House seats have already been decided by only 3% of eligible votes in the eight states that have held primaries for offices other than the presidency. In 2022, 8% of voters elected 83% of Congress.

Nationwide, there are more independents than Democrats or Republicans. Nearly half of veterans identify as politically independent, as do a majority of young people. Because of our primary system, we’re telling those who fought for our country and those who are the future of our country that their voices don’t matter.

The reason our elected leaders don’t seem to represent us is because, quite literally, most of us don’t elect them.

How do we fix this broken system? With two powerful changes: One, allow all eligible voters – including independents – to cast ballots for any candidate, regardless of party, in every taxpayer-funded election. Two, require candidates to secure a majority of votes to win an election.

https://realclearwire.com/articles/2024/04/16/democracy_dies_in_primaries_150797.html
"Not only did the b vast majority of us have... (show quote)


As long as your excellent idea is applicable only to Congressional members. If you are suggesting it be applicable to President/Vice President you run into that pesky document progressives hate.

United States Constitution

Article II

* Clause 2 Electors
* Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

* Clause 3 Electoral College Count
* The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

* Clause 4 Electoral Votes
* The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

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Apr 17, 2024 19:32:56   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Lily wrote:
Hopefully, that ”majority of the votes” applies only to Congress.

We could go old school and run President and VP as separate candidates, not party ticket.


If you go original history old school, people voted for each person for President and VP, not on a party ticket.


It has proved a workable idea. The Commonwealth of Virginia, several decades ago, had a Governor of one party, Lt. Governor of another party and the AG was a centrist. It proved one of the most effective government in Virginia.

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Apr 17, 2024 19:35:27   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Lily wrote:
I am so tired of the claim about oligarchs. Since they seem to be a lot of your people ‘s boogie man, name them. If you leave Zuckerberg off, it will be a dead giveaway as to your lack of objectivity.


Usually, the boogie men are unnamed unless it is the Koch brothers, because they are boogie men who are shadowy creatures.

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Apr 18, 2024 09:24:38   #
LiberalGrammyD
 
Lily wrote:
I am so tired of the claim about oligarchs. Since they seem to be a lot of your people ‘s boogie man, name them. If you leave Zuckerberg off, it will be a dead giveaway as to your lack of objectivity.


Absolutely Zuckerberg is on that list along with Musk, Koch Brothers, Gates, Every CEO of Every Oil and Utility entity, Every Automotive Industry CEO, The Head of the NRA or ANY Millionaire/Billionaire who donated excessive amounts of money to any politician of any party.

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Apr 18, 2024 12:52:48   #
Justice101
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
Absolutely Zuckerberg is on that list along with Musk, Koch Brothers, Gates, Every CEO of Every Oil and Utility entity, Every Automotive Industry CEO, The Head of the NRA or ANY Millionaire/Billionaire who donated excessive amounts of money to any politician of any party.


You forgot to mention the George Soros family.

https://westobserver.com/soros-foundation-makes-significant-eight-figure-contribution-to-super-pac-supporting-liberal-organizations/

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Apr 18, 2024 14:35:01   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 


By design, maybe???

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Apr 18, 2024 14:41:17   #
Justice101
 
ACP45 wrote:
By design, maybe???


Very likely!

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Apr 18, 2024 15:52:03   #
LiberalGrammyD
 


Yes you are right I frogot Soros and he is most likely the most dangerous of the entire bunch.

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Apr 18, 2024 15:55:40   #
Lily
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
Yes you are right I frogot Soros and he is most likely the most dangerous of the entire bunch.


He hates America. I looked but couldn’t find the interview he gave about wanting to bring America down.

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Apr 18, 2024 15:56:24   #
Lily
 
LiberalGrammyD wrote:
Absolutely Zuckerberg is on that list along with Musk, Koch Brothers, Gates, Every CEO of Every Oil and Utility entity, Every Automotive Industry CEO, The Head of the NRA or ANY Millionaire/Billionaire who donated excessive amounts of money to any politician of any party.


Gates is scary with his depopulation agenda!

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Apr 18, 2024 16:03:36   #
Justice101
 
Lily wrote:
He hates America. I looked but couldn’t find the interview he gave about wanting to bring America down.


We can see that he financed the campaigns of several ELWSJW district attorneys in many large cities across the US that favor the criminals rather than the victims.

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