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Jan 24, 2015 08:59:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Some of you will see the byline, and ignore this post because of it. Bear in mind that this is not opinion, it is simply reporting.
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JANUARY 24, 2015 3:34 AM
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(New Zeal) - New national chair of the Communist Party USA, Chicago man John Bachtell has admitted that his Party “utilizes” the Democratic Party “to advance its agenda.”

Writing on the People’s World website Bachtell explains that much of the left wants to abandon the Democratic Party (as much of the “right” wants to abandon the GOP) to form a radical third party.

In an article entitled A radical third party? I agree! Bachtell explains;

Certainly, there’s widespread disillusionment with both the Democratic and Republican parties. That’s reflected in the latest Pew Research poll: 38 percent of voters describe themselves as independent, 32 percent as Democrats, and 25 percent as Republicans. In 1991, the three were approximately equal.
While acknowledging that both major parties are heavily influenced by Wall Street, Bachtell sees a big difference;

However, it’s not enough to make sweeping generalizations about the Democratic and Republican parties. It’s true both parties are dominated by Wall Street interests, but it’s also necessary to see how each party differs, particularly their social bases and how this affects their policies.

While the Republican Party is led by the most reactionary sections of Wall Street capital including the energy extractive sector and military industrial complex, it also consists of extreme right-wing elements including the Tea Party, white supremacists, social conservatives, right-wing evangelicals, climate deniers, anti-reproductive rights groups, etc.

Meanwhile the Democratic Party is also home to labor, African Americans, Latinos, other communities of color, women, most union members, young people, and a wide range of social and democratic movements. These constituencies exert influence on party leadership and hold positions at all levels.
Therefore it makes sense, according to Bachtell, for the Communist Party, to stick with the Democrats until a viable third party is feasible. To Bachtell, progress towards socialism is possible only after the “right” is soundly defeated.

The Communist Party’s tactics for political independence rest on several interrelated elements. First, they occur within the constraints of the two-party system. We don’t operate in a parliamentary system which allows proportional voting. Instead, winner takes all, and during the general election it usually comes down to voting for one of two candidates most likely to win.

That means candidates are backed by coalitions. Under these circumstances voting based on purity of positions is not a viable tactic. Coalition forces may disagree with a candidate on one or another issue, but find they must support candidates for strategic reasons – to advance issues and create a more favorable terrain of struggle.

Our tactics also occur within the framework of our strategic policy of building a broad coalition to defeat the extreme right, which we see as the main danger to democracy and social progress, embodied within today’s Republican Party. There are voting constituencies that presently support the GOP that have to be won over. Such an approach sees the need to actively challenge right-wing and GOP ideas that influence sections of the people, especially working-class whites, for example,through hate talk radio. This includes racism and intolerance which are key issues dividing the working class.

We see this as one of the stages in the long struggle for advanced democracy and socialism. Without decisively defeating the most reactionary sections of monopoly capital, disintegrating Republican Party support at every level, it’s hard to see winning more radical and advanced programs and policies and waging a fight against the monopoly class as a whole.

We envision a prolonged process toward political independence, with many turns, advances and defeats, utilizing many forms, resulting in a radical third party based in labor, working-class neighborhoods, communities of color, and democratic movements. Such a coalition third party must extend its reach beyond urban areas, to suburbs, exurbs, rural areas, and in “red” states and congressional districts.
Until that glorious day arrives the Communist Party will continue to “utilize” the Democrats;

First, we are part of building the broadest anti-ultra right alliance possible, uniting the widest array of class (including a section of monopoly), social and democratic forces. This necessarily means working with the Democratic Party. This differentiates us from those left groups who underestimate the right danger and overestimate the readiness of key class and social forces to bolt the Democratic Party.

Second, our objective is not to build the Democratic Party. At this stage we are about building the broad people’s movement led by labor that utilizes the vehicle of the Democratic Party to advance its agenda. We are about building the movements around the issues roiling wide sections of people that can help shape election contours and debates.
The Communist Party often upsets less mature Marxists groups because of their refusal to abandon the Democratic Party, despite not always getting every item on their agenda, immediately.

As an experienced Communist, John Bachtell understands that in spite of difficulties and disappointments, the the Communist Party agenda is far better served by infiltrating the Democrats than by marching in the streets yelling revolutionary slogans.

The Communist Party and their only marginally less radical Democratic Socialists of America allies can point to real achievements under their “friend” Barack Obama. Obamacare, illegal immigrant “amnesty”, the NEW START Treaty with Russia, negotiations with Iran, military budget cuts, and recognition of communist Cuba, are all Communist Party policies, implemented through the Democratic Party.

Bachtell understands that to prematurely break with with the Democrats, on some Quixotic adventure of forming a new leftist third party, would almost certainly, hand the next few elections to the GOP. He fears that a revitalized GOP, led by Ted Cruz, or some similar figure , would roll back most, or all of the Communist Party’s hard fought gains.

If US Constitutionalstm conservatives, and Tea Party activists can show similar political discipline and maturity, they will abandon plans for a suicidal third party agenda – for now. Instead they will work through the GOP, as the Communists have through the Democrats. Learn from the opposition. Utilize the GOP machinery and voting base to build a big Constitutionalist base inside the GOP. Build your strength, do as the Communists have done, primary any vulnerable GOP candidates who will not support your Constitutionalist agenda.

The Communists did that to Senator Joe Lieberman from Connecticut. Now virtually no senior Democrats will buck the Communist line. They know the price.

So the Tea Party and their allies need to take back the GOP for Constitutionalism, and ensure that someone of the caliber of Ted Cruz, or Scott Walker is the GOP Presidential nominee in 2016.

If that happens, American can have a second “Reagan Revolution” even better than the first. If doesnt’ the Communist Party will have theirs.

If Constitutionalists fail, and Jeb Bush, or some similar milksop becomes the GOP nominee, they should gather all their forces, leave the GOP en masse and run against him as a third party. At that point Constitutionalists have nothing left to lose. They should also make it very clear to the GOP hierarchy and major donors, that a third party will inevitably follow any further “dirty tricks”, or other attempts to frustrate will of the people.

Less than a thousand hard core Communist Party activists, and their few thousand Democratic Socialists of America allies effectively dictate Democratic Party policy.

If the much larger Constitutionalist/Tea Party movement can learn from their opponent’s tactics and maturity, they can have a real shot at restoring the Republic.

The battle for America is not between the Democrats and the Republicans. It is between the Communists and the Constitutionalists. The Constitutionalists must better understand their opposition, and borrow some of their tactics, if the want a chance of victory.

http://www.trevorloudon.com/2015/01/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-the-democratic-party-a-lesson-for-constitutionalistss/

- See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-democratic-party-79199/#sthash.HeXK284X.dpuf

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Jan 24, 2015 09:02:10   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
Loki wrote:
Some of you will see the byline, and ignore this post because of it. Bear in mind that this is not opinion, it is simply reporting.
http://www.teaparty.org/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-democratic-party-79199
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JANUARY 24, 2015 3:34 AM
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(New Zeal) - New national chair of the Communist Party USA, Chicago man John Bachtell has admitted that his Party “utilizes” the Democratic Party “to advance its agenda.”

Writing on the People’s World website Bachtell explains that much of the left wants to abandon the Democratic Party (as much of the “right” wants to abandon the GOP) to form a radical third party.

In an article entitled A radical third party? I agree! Bachtell explains;

SPECIAL: Join the Tea Party REVOLUTION! The Obama Regime must be dismantled!

Certainly, there’s widespread disillusionment with both the Democratic and Republican parties. That’s reflected in the latest Pew Research poll: 38 percent of voters describe themselves as independent, 32 percent as Democrats, and 25 percent as Republicans. In 1991, the three were approximately equal.
While acknowledging that both major parties are heavily influenced by Wall Street, Bachtell sees a big difference;

However, it’s not enough to make sweeping generalizations about the Democratic and Republican parties. It’s true both parties are dominated by Wall Street interests, but it’s also necessary to see how each party differs, particularly their social bases and how this affects their policies.

While the Republican Party is led by the most reactionary sections of Wall Street capital including the energy extractive sector and military industrial complex, it also consists of extreme right-wing elements including the Tea Party, white supremacists, social conservatives, right-wing evangelicals, climate deniers, anti-reproductive rights groups, etc.

Meanwhile the Democratic Party is also home to labor, African Americans, Latinos, other communities of color, women, most union members, young people, and a wide range of social and democratic movements. These constituencies exert influence on party leadership and hold positions at all levels.
Therefore it makes sense, according to Bachtell, for the Communist Party, to stick with the Democrats until a viable third party is feasible. To Bachtell, progress towards socialism is possible only after the “right” is soundly defeated.

The Communist Party’s tactics for political independence rest on several interrelated elements. First, they occur within the constraints of the two-party system. We don’t operate in a parliamentary system which allows proportional voting. Instead, winner takes all, and during the general election it usually comes down to voting for one of two candidates most likely to win.

That means candidates are backed by coalitions. Under these circumstances voting based on purity of positions is not a viable tactic. Coalition forces may disagree with a candidate on one or another issue, but find they must support candidates for strategic reasons – to advance issues and create a more favorable terrain of struggle.

Our tactics also occur within the framework of our strategic policy of building a broad coalition to defeat the extreme right, which we see as the main danger to democracy and social progress, embodied within today’s Republican Party. There are voting constituencies that presently support the GOP that have to be won over. Such an approach sees the need to actively challenge right-wing and GOP ideas that influence sections of the people, especially working-class whites, for example,through hate talk radio. This includes racism and intolerance which are key issues dividing the working class.

We see this as one of the stages in the long struggle for advanced democracy and socialism. Without decisively defeating the most reactionary sections of monopoly capital, disintegrating Republican Party support at every level, it’s hard to see winning more radical and advanced programs and policies and waging a fight against the monopoly class as a whole.

We envision a prolonged process toward political independence, with many turns, advances and defeats, utilizing many forms, resulting in a radical third party based in labor, working-class neighborhoods, communities of color, and democratic movements. Such a coalition third party must extend its reach beyond urban areas, to suburbs, exurbs, rural areas, and in “red” states and congressional districts.
Until that glorious day arrives the Communist Party will continue to “utilize” the Democrats;

First, we are part of building the broadest anti-ultra right alliance possible, uniting the widest array of class (including a section of monopoly), social and democratic forces. This necessarily means working with the Democratic Party. This differentiates us from those left groups who underestimate the right danger and overestimate the readiness of key class and social forces to bolt the Democratic Party.

Second, our objective is not to build the Democratic Party. At this stage we are about building the broad people’s movement led by labor that utilizes the vehicle of the Democratic Party to advance its agenda. We are about building the movements around the issues roiling wide sections of people that can help shape election contours and debates.
The Communist Party often upsets less mature Marxists groups because of their refusal to abandon the Democratic Party, despite not always getting every item on their agenda, immediately.

As an experienced Communist, John Bachtell understands that in spite of difficulties and disappointments, the the Communist Party agenda is far better served by infiltrating the Democrats than by marching in the streets yelling revolutionary slogans.

The Communist Party and their only marginally less radical Democratic Socialists of America allies can point to real achievements under their “friend” Barack Obama. Obamacare, illegal immigrant “amnesty”, the NEW START Treaty with Russia, negotiations with Iran, military budget cuts, and recognition of communist Cuba, are all Communist Party policies, implemented through the Democratic Party.

Bachtell understands that to prematurely break with with the Democrats, on some Quixotic adventure of forming a new leftist third party, would almost certainly, hand the next few elections to the GOP. He fears that a revitalized GOP, led by Ted Cruz, or some similar figure , would roll back most, or all of the Communist Party’s hard fought gains.

If US Constitutionalstm conservatives, and Tea Party activists can show similar political discipline and maturity, they will abandon plans for a suicidal third party agenda – for now. Instead they will work through the GOP, as the Communists have through the Democrats. Learn from the opposition. Utilize the GOP machinery and voting base to build a big Constitutionalist base inside the GOP. Build your strength, do as the Communists have done, primary any vulnerable GOP candidates who will not support your Constitutionalist agenda.

The Communists did that to Senator Joe Lieberman from Connecticut. Now virtually no senior Democrats will buck the Communist line. They know the price.

So the Tea Party and their allies need to take back the GOP for Constitutionalism, and ensure that someone of the caliber of Ted Cruz, or Scott Walker is the GOP Presidential nominee in 2016.

If that happens, American can have a second “Reagan Revolution” even better than the first. If doesnt’ the Communist Party will have theirs.

If Constitutionalists fail, and Jeb Bush, or some similar milksop becomes the GOP nominee, they should gather all their forces, leave the GOP en masse and run against him as a third party. At that point Constitutionalists have nothing left to lose. They should also make it very clear to the GOP hierarchy and major donors, that a third party will inevitably follow any further “dirty tricks”, or other attempts to frustrate will of the people.

Less than a thousand hard core Communist Party activists, and their few thousand Democratic Socialists of America allies effectively dictate Democratic Party policy.

If the much larger Constitutionalist/Tea Party movement can learn from their opponent’s tactics and maturity, they can have a real shot at restoring the Republic.

The battle for America is not between the Democrats and the Republicans. It is between the Communists and the Constitutionalists. The Constitutionalists must better understand their opposition, and borrow some of their tactics, if the want a chance of victory.

http://www.trevorloudon.com/2015/01/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-the-democratic-party-a-lesson-for-constitutionalistss/

- See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-democratic-party-79199/#sthash.HeXK284X.dpuf
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I highly recommend reading Trevor Louden's book: "Barack Obama, and the Enemies Within" an excellent read. Louden has probably done more research on Obama than anyone, and he has him pegged in this book.

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Jan 24, 2015 09:39:26   #
rkevin Loc: florida
 
JMHO wrote:
I highly recommend reading Trevor Louden's book: "Barack Obama, and the Enemies Within" an excellent read. Louden has probably done more research on Obama than anyone, and he has him pegged in this book.








I think the majority of American patriots, JMHO, have been filled up-to-here with anything to do with Barry's "scrubbed" past. "WE" are no longer fighting a "red/blue" political battle, but Allah's "jihad" forces and the Qu'ran's, Islamic infiltration and Shariah Law that has now permeated our "Sea to Shining Sea."

The OWS movement has now been financed by Islamic, American taxpayer and Communist money, and, somehow, our Congress seems to have been sucker-punched at every turn. Our government and schools have been filled with foreigners who will-not assimilate with Western culture and values.

Congress, schmongress, "balls-to-the-walls" run for communist "utopia," and "race" seems to have snookered any conservative obstacles to divert the course. "WE" are now fighting Allah, and Allah is able to use the vast resources of our own tax monies.

God, and then Congress must "rope and tie" this mad-man who's only allegiances seems to be to Islam; or suffer eminent ETERNAL "hell-fire!!!" How can mere mortal man fight THAT ideology???

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Jan 24, 2015 09:48:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Very good article. Some times it is hard to tell what is quoted, and what is commentary, but very enlightening.
Loki; you are right about ignoring posts; They sure stayed aeay from this one.
This article is so important, because it details what happened in Libya from testimonies of military participants at the top. This article is apparently being boycotted by the D's and R's, because it exposes the complicity in both parties; especially Senator John Mc Cain on the Republican side.
They can all hide from the truth, but they won't escape reality.
IMO – Very sad for the future of America, and the world at large.
The ignored article: Admiral: U.S. could have ousted Gadhafi peacefully
Brokered deal but Obama chose to arm al-Qaida-linked 'rebels'
http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/admiral-u-s-could-have-ousted-gadhafi-peacefully/#uHr0jsO2Y1jP...
http://www.wnd.com/2015/01/admiral-u-s-could-have-ousted-gadhafi-peacefully/#824dZHruZZCgkAwf.99



Loki wrote:
Some of you will see the byline, and ignore this post because of it. Bear in mind that this is not opinion, it is simply reporting.
http://www.teaparty.org/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-democratic-party-79199
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JANUARY 24, 2015 3:34 AM
POLITICS
(New Zeal) - New national chair of the Communist Party USA, Chicago man John Bachtell has admitted that his Party “utilizes” the Democratic Party “to advance its agenda.”

Writing on the People’s World website Bachtell explains that much of the left wants to abandon the Democratic Party (as much of the “right” wants to abandon the GOP) to form a radical third party.

In an article entitled A radical third party? I agree! Bachtell explains;

Certainly, there’s widespread disillusionment with both the Democratic and Republican parties. That’s reflected in the latest Pew Research poll: 38 percent of voters describe themselves as independent, 32 percent as Democrats, and 25 percent as Republicans. In 1991, the three were approximately equal.
While acknowledging that both major parties are heavily influenced by Wall Street, Bachtell sees a big difference;

However, it’s not enough to make sweeping generalizations about the Democratic and Republican parties. It’s true both parties are dominated by Wall Street interests, but it’s also necessary to see how each party differs, particularly their social bases and how this affects their policies.

While the Republican Party is led by the most reactionary sections of Wall Street capital including the energy extractive sector and military industrial complex, it also consists of extreme right-wing elements including the Tea Party, white supremacists, social conservatives, right-wing evangelicals, climate deniers, anti-reproductive rights groups, etc.

Meanwhile the Democratic Party is also home to labor, African Americans, Latinos, other communities of color, women, most union members, young people, and a wide range of social and democratic movements. These constituencies exert influence on party leadership and hold positions at all levels.
Therefore it makes sense, according to Bachtell, for the Communist Party, to stick with the Democrats until a viable third party is feasible. To Bachtell, progress towards socialism is possible only after the “right” is soundly defeated.

The Communist Party’s tactics for political independence rest on several interrelated elements. First, they occur within the constraints of the two-party system. We don’t operate in a parliamentary system which allows proportional voting. Instead, winner takes all, and during the general election it usually comes down to voting for one of two candidates most likely to win.

That means candidates are backed by coalitions. Under these circumstances voting based on purity of positions is not a viable tactic. Coalition forces may disagree with a candidate on one or another issue, but find they must support candidates for strategic reasons – to advance issues and create a more favorable terrain of struggle.

Our tactics also occur within the framework of our strategic policy of building a broad coalition to defeat the extreme right, which we see as the main danger to democracy and social progress, embodied within today’s Republican Party. There are voting constituencies that presently support the GOP that have to be won over. Such an approach sees the need to actively challenge right-wing and GOP ideas that influence sections of the people, especially working-class whites, for example,through hate talk radio. This includes racism and intolerance which are key issues dividing the working class.

We see this as one of the stages in the long struggle for advanced democracy and socialism. Without decisively defeating the most reactionary sections of monopoly capital, disintegrating Republican Party support at every level, it’s hard to see winning more radical and advanced programs and policies and waging a fight against the monopoly class as a whole.

We envision a prolonged process toward political independence, with many turns, advances and defeats, utilizing many forms, resulting in a radical third party based in labor, working-class neighborhoods, communities of color, and democratic movements. Such a coalition third party must extend its reach beyond urban areas, to suburbs, exurbs, rural areas, and in “red” states and congressional districts.
Until that glorious day arrives the Communist Party will continue to “utilize” the Democrats;

First, we are part of building the broadest anti-ultra right alliance possible, uniting the widest array of class (including a section of monopoly), social and democratic forces. This necessarily means working with the Democratic Party. This differentiates us from those left groups who underestimate the right danger and overestimate the readiness of key class and social forces to bolt the Democratic Party.

Second, our objective is not to build the Democratic Party. At this stage we are about building the broad people’s movement led by labor that utilizes the vehicle of the Democratic Party to advance its agenda. We are about building the movements around the issues roiling wide sections of people that can help shape election contours and debates.
The Communist Party often upsets less mature Marxists groups because of their refusal to abandon the Democratic Party, despite not always getting every item on their agenda, immediately.

As an experienced Communist, John Bachtell understands that in spite of difficulties and disappointments, the the Communist Party agenda is far better served by infiltrating the Democrats than by marching in the streets yelling revolutionary slogans.

The Communist Party and their only marginally less radical Democratic Socialists of America allies can point to real achievements under their “friend” Barack Obama. Obamacare, illegal immigrant “amnesty”, the NEW START Treaty with Russia, negotiations with Iran, military budget cuts, and recognition of communist Cuba, are all Communist Party policies, implemented through the Democratic Party.

Bachtell understands that to prematurely break with with the Democrats, on some Quixotic adventure of forming a new leftist third party, would almost certainly, hand the next few elections to the GOP. He fears that a revitalized GOP, led by Ted Cruz, or some similar figure , would roll back most, or all of the Communist Party’s hard fought gains.

If US Constitutionalstm conservatives, and Tea Party activists can show similar political discipline and maturity, they will abandon plans for a suicidal third party agenda – for now. Instead they will work through the GOP, as the Communists have through the Democrats. Learn from the opposition. Utilize the GOP machinery and voting base to build a big Constitutionalist base inside the GOP. Build your strength, do as the Communists have done, primary any vulnerable GOP candidates who will not support your Constitutionalist agenda.

The Communists did that to Senator Joe Lieberman from Connecticut. Now virtually no senior Democrats will buck the Communist line. They know the price.

So the Tea Party and their allies need to take back the GOP for Constitutionalism, and ensure that someone of the caliber of Ted Cruz, or Scott Walker is the GOP Presidential nominee in 2016.

If that happens, American can have a second “Reagan Revolution” even better than the first. If doesnt’ the Communist Party will have theirs.

If Constitutionalists fail, and Jeb Bush, or some similar milksop becomes the GOP nominee, they should gather all their forces, leave the GOP en masse and run against him as a third party. At that point Constitutionalists have nothing left to lose. They should also make it very clear to the GOP hierarchy and major donors, that a third party will inevitably follow any further “dirty tricks”, or other attempts to frustrate will of the people.

Less than a thousand hard core Communist Party activists, and their few thousand Democratic Socialists of America allies effectively dictate Democratic Party policy.

If the much larger Constitutionalist/Tea Party movement can learn from their opponent’s tactics and maturity, they can have a real shot at restoring the Republic.

The battle for America is not between the Democrats and the Republicans. It is between the Communists and the Constitutionalists. The Constitutionalists must better understand their opposition, and borrow some of their tactics, if the want a chance of victory.

http://www.trevorloudon.com/2015/01/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-the-democratic-party-a-lesson-for-constitutionalistss/

- See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-democratic-party-79199/#sthash.HeXK284X.dpuf
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Jan 24, 2015 10:26:52   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Loki wrote:
Some of you will see the byline, and ignore this post because of it. Bear in mind that this is not opinion, it is simply reporting.
http://www.teaparty.org/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-democratic-party-79199
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JANUARY 24, 2015 3:34 AM
POLITICS
(New Zeal) - New national chair of the Communist Party USA, Chicago man John Bachtell has admitted that his Party “utilizes” the Democratic Party “to advance its agenda.”

Writing on the People’s World website Bachtell explains that much of the left wants to abandon the Democratic Party (as much of the “right” wants to abandon the GOP) to form a radical third party.

In an article entitled A radical third party? I agree! Bachtell explains;

Certainly, there’s widespread disillusionment with both the Democratic and Republican parties. That’s reflected in the latest Pew Research poll: 38 percent of voters describe themselves as independent, 32 percent as Democrats, and 25 percent as Republicans. In 1991, the three were approximately equal.
While acknowledging that both major parties are heavily influenced by Wall Street, Bachtell sees a big difference;

However, it’s not enough to make sweeping generalizations about the Democratic and Republican parties. It’s true both parties are dominated by Wall Street interests, but it’s also necessary to see how each party differs, particularly their social bases and how this affects their policies.

While the Republican Party is led by the most reactionary sections of Wall Street capital including the energy extractive sector and military industrial complex, it also consists of extreme right-wing elements including the Tea Party, white supremacists, social conservatives, right-wing evangelicals, climate deniers, anti-reproductive rights groups, etc.

Meanwhile the Democratic Party is also home to labor, African Americans, Latinos, other communities of color, women, most union members, young people, and a wide range of social and democratic movements. These constituencies exert influence on party leadership and hold positions at all levels.
Therefore it makes sense, according to Bachtell, for the Communist Party, to stick with the Democrats until a viable third party is feasible. To Bachtell, progress towards socialism is possible only after the “right” is soundly defeated.

The Communist Party’s tactics for political independence rest on several interrelated elements. First, they occur within the constraints of the two-party system. We don’t operate in a parliamentary system which allows proportional voting. Instead, winner takes all, and during the general election it usually comes down to voting for one of two candidates most likely to win.

That means candidates are backed by coalitions. Under these circumstances voting based on purity of positions is not a viable tactic. Coalition forces may disagree with a candidate on one or another issue, but find they must support candidates for strategic reasons – to advance issues and create a more favorable terrain of struggle.

Our tactics also occur within the framework of our strategic policy of building a broad coalition to defeat the extreme right, which we see as the main danger to democracy and social progress, embodied within today’s Republican Party. There are voting constituencies that presently support the GOP that have to be won over. Such an approach sees the need to actively challenge right-wing and GOP ideas that influence sections of the people, especially working-class whites, for example,through hate talk radio. This includes racism and intolerance which are key issues dividing the working class.

We see this as one of the stages in the long struggle for advanced democracy and socialism. Without decisively defeating the most reactionary sections of monopoly capital, disintegrating Republican Party support at every level, it’s hard to see winning more radical and advanced programs and policies and waging a fight against the monopoly class as a whole.

We envision a prolonged process toward political independence, with many turns, advances and defeats, utilizing many forms, resulting in a radical third party based in labor, working-class neighborhoods, communities of color, and democratic movements. Such a coalition third party must extend its reach beyond urban areas, to suburbs, exurbs, rural areas, and in “red” states and congressional districts.
Until that glorious day arrives the Communist Party will continue to “utilize” the Democrats;

First, we are part of building the broadest anti-ultra right alliance possible, uniting the widest array of class (including a section of monopoly), social and democratic forces. This necessarily means working with the Democratic Party. This differentiates us from those left groups who underestimate the right danger and overestimate the readiness of key class and social forces to bolt the Democratic Party.

Second, our objective is not to build the Democratic Party. At this stage we are about building the broad people’s movement led by labor that utilizes the vehicle of the Democratic Party to advance its agenda. We are about building the movements around the issues roiling wide sections of people that can help shape election contours and debates.
The Communist Party often upsets less mature Marxists groups because of their refusal to abandon the Democratic Party, despite not always getting every item on their agenda, immediately.

As an experienced Communist, John Bachtell understands that in spite of difficulties and disappointments, the the Communist Party agenda is far better served by infiltrating the Democrats than by marching in the streets yelling revolutionary slogans.

The Communist Party and their only marginally less radical Democratic Socialists of America allies can point to real achievements under their “friend” Barack Obama. Obamacare, illegal immigrant “amnesty”, the NEW START Treaty with Russia, negotiations with Iran, military budget cuts, and recognition of communist Cuba, are all Communist Party policies, implemented through the Democratic Party.

Bachtell understands that to prematurely break with with the Democrats, on some Quixotic adventure of forming a new leftist third party, would almost certainly, hand the next few elections to the GOP. He fears that a revitalized GOP, led by Ted Cruz, or some similar figure , would roll back most, or all of the Communist Party’s hard fought gains.

If US Constitutionalstm conservatives, and Tea Party activists can show similar political discipline and maturity, they will abandon plans for a suicidal third party agenda – for now. Instead they will work through the GOP, as the Communists have through the Democrats. Learn from the opposition. Utilize the GOP machinery and voting base to build a big Constitutionalist base inside the GOP. Build your strength, do as the Communists have done, primary any vulnerable GOP candidates who will not support your Constitutionalist agenda.

The Communists did that to Senator Joe Lieberman from Connecticut. Now virtually no senior Democrats will buck the Communist line. They know the price.

So the Tea Party and their allies need to take back the GOP for Constitutionalism, and ensure that someone of the caliber of Ted Cruz, or Scott Walker is the GOP Presidential nominee in 2016.

If that happens, American can have a second “Reagan Revolution” even better than the first. If doesnt’ the Communist Party will have theirs.

If Constitutionalists fail, and Jeb Bush, or some similar milksop becomes the GOP nominee, they should gather all their forces, leave the GOP en masse and run against him as a third party. At that point Constitutionalists have nothing left to lose. They should also make it very clear to the GOP hierarchy and major donors, that a third party will inevitably follow any further “dirty tricks”, or other attempts to frustrate will of the people.

Less than a thousand hard core Communist Party activists, and their few thousand Democratic Socialists of America allies effectively dictate Democratic Party policy.

If the much larger Constitutionalist/Tea Party movement can learn from their opponent’s tactics and maturity, they can have a real shot at restoring the Republic.

The battle for America is not between the Democrats and the Republicans. It is between the Communists and the Constitutionalists. The Constitutionalists must better understand their opposition, and borrow some of their tactics, if the want a chance of victory.

http://www.trevorloudon.com/2015/01/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-the-democratic-party-a-lesson-for-constitutionalistss/

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I vote , fight , die by the T.P constatutional doctrains !!!!

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Jan 24, 2015 10:36:59   #
rkevin Loc: florida
 
Loki wrote:
Some of you will see the byline, and ignore this post because of it. Bear in mind that this is not opinion, it is simply reporting.
http://www.teaparty.org/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-democratic-party-79199
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JANUARY 24, 2015 3:34 AM
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(New Zeal) - New national chair of the Communist Party USA, Chicago man John Bachtell has admitted that his Party “utilizes” the Democratic Party “to advance its agenda.”

Writing on the People’s World website Bachtell explains that much of the left wants to abandon the Democratic Party (as much of the “right” wants to abandon the GOP) to form a radical third party.

In an article entitled A radical third party? I agree! Bachtell explains;

Certainly, there’s widespread disillusionment with both the Democratic and Republican parties. That’s reflected in the latest Pew Research poll: 38 percent of voters describe themselves as independent, 32 percent as Democrats, and 25 percent as Republicans. In 1991, the three were approximately equal.
While acknowledging that both major parties are heavily influenced by Wall Street, Bachtell sees a big difference;

However, it’s not enough to make sweeping generalizations about the Democratic and Republican parties. It’s true both parties are dominated by Wall Street interests, but it’s also necessary to see how each party differs, particularly their social bases and how this affects their policies.

While the Republican Party is led by the most reactionary sections of Wall Street capital including the energy extractive sector and military industrial complex, it also consists of extreme right-wing elements including the Tea Party, white supremacists, social conservatives, right-wing evangelicals, climate deniers, anti-reproductive rights groups, etc.

Meanwhile the Democratic Party is also home to labor, African Americans, Latinos, other communities of color, women, most union members, young people, and a wide range of social and democratic movements. These constituencies exert influence on party leadership and hold positions at all levels.
Therefore it makes sense, according to Bachtell, for the Communist Party, to stick with the Democrats until a viable third party is feasible. To Bachtell, progress towards socialism is possible only after the “right” is soundly defeated.

The Communist Party’s tactics for political independence rest on several interrelated elements. First, they occur within the constraints of the two-party system. We don’t operate in a parliamentary system which allows proportional voting. Instead, winner takes all, and during the general election it usually comes down to voting for one of two candidates most likely to win.

That means candidates are backed by coalitions. Under these circumstances voting based on purity of positions is not a viable tactic. Coalition forces may disagree with a candidate on one or another issue, but find they must support candidates for strategic reasons – to advance issues and create a more favorable terrain of struggle.

Our tactics also occur within the framework of our strategic policy of building a broad coalition to defeat the extreme right, which we see as the main danger to democracy and social progress, embodied within today’s Republican Party. There are voting constituencies that presently support the GOP that have to be won over. Such an approach sees the need to actively challenge right-wing and GOP ideas that influence sections of the people, especially working-class whites, for example,through hate talk radio. This includes racism and intolerance which are key issues dividing the working class.

We see this as one of the stages in the long struggle for advanced democracy and socialism. Without decisively defeating the most reactionary sections of monopoly capital, disintegrating Republican Party support at every level, it’s hard to see winning more radical and advanced programs and policies and waging a fight against the monopoly class as a whole.

We envision a prolonged process toward political independence, with many turns, advances and defeats, utilizing many forms, resulting in a radical third party based in labor, working-class neighborhoods, communities of color, and democratic movements. Such a coalition third party must extend its reach beyond urban areas, to suburbs, exurbs, rural areas, and in “red” states and congressional districts.
Until that glorious day arrives the Communist Party will continue to “utilize” the Democrats;

First, we are part of building the broadest anti-ultra right alliance possible, uniting the widest array of class (including a section of monopoly), social and democratic forces. This necessarily means working with the Democratic Party. This differentiates us from those left groups who underestimate the right danger and overestimate the readiness of key class and social forces to bolt the Democratic Party.

Second, our objective is not to build the Democratic Party. At this stage we are about building the broad people’s movement led by labor that utilizes the vehicle of the Democratic Party to advance its agenda. We are about building the movements around the issues roiling wide sections of people that can help shape election contours and debates.
The Communist Party often upsets less mature Marxists groups because of their refusal to abandon the Democratic Party, despite not always getting every item on their agenda, immediately.

As an experienced Communist, John Bachtell understands that in spite of difficulties and disappointments, the the Communist Party agenda is far better served by infiltrating the Democrats than by marching in the streets yelling revolutionary slogans.

The Communist Party and their only marginally less radical Democratic Socialists of America allies can point to real achievements under their “friend” Barack Obama. Obamacare, illegal immigrant “amnesty”, the NEW START Treaty with Russia, negotiations with Iran, military budget cuts, and recognition of communist Cuba, are all Communist Party policies, implemented through the Democratic Party.

Bachtell understands that to prematurely break with with the Democrats, on some Quixotic adventure of forming a new leftist third party, would almost certainly, hand the next few elections to the GOP. He fears that a revitalized GOP, led by Ted Cruz, or some similar figure , would roll back most, or all of the Communist Party’s hard fought gains.

If US Constitutionalstm conservatives, and Tea Party activists can show similar political discipline and maturity, they will abandon plans for a suicidal third party agenda – for now. Instead they will work through the GOP, as the Communists have through the Democrats. Learn from the opposition. Utilize the GOP machinery and voting base to build a big Constitutionalist base inside the GOP. Build your strength, do as the Communists have done, primary any vulnerable GOP candidates who will not support your Constitutionalist agenda.

The Communists did that to Senator Joe Lieberman from Connecticut. Now virtually no senior Democrats will buck the Communist line. They know the price.

So the Tea Party and their allies need to take back the GOP for Constitutionalism, and ensure that someone of the caliber of Ted Cruz, or Scott Walker is the GOP Presidential nominee in 2016.

If that happens, American can have a second “Reagan Revolution” even better than the first. If doesnt’ the Communist Party will have theirs.

If Constitutionalists fail, and Jeb Bush, or some similar milksop becomes the GOP nominee, they should gather all their forces, leave the GOP en masse and run against him as a third party. At that point Constitutionalists have nothing left to lose. They should also make it very clear to the GOP hierarchy and major donors, that a third party will inevitably follow any further “dirty tricks”, or other attempts to frustrate will of the people.

Less than a thousand hard core Communist Party activists, and their few thousand Democratic Socialists of America allies effectively dictate Democratic Party policy.

If the much larger Constitutionalist/Tea Party movement can learn from their opponent’s tactics and maturity, they can have a real shot at restoring the Republic.

The battle for America is not between the Democrats and the Republicans. It is between the Communists and the Constitutionalists. The Constitutionalists must better understand their opposition, and borrow some of their tactics, if the want a chance of victory.

http://www.trevorloudon.com/2015/01/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-the-democratic-party-a-lesson-for-constitutionalistss/

- See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-democratic-party-79199/#sthash.HeXK284X.dpuf
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"The battle for America," Loki, is no longer of earthly design. Politics, schmolitics, Allah is holding the reins of our WH decisions, and Allah is not only not our friend, but [he] takes politics to a whole new level; that seems to have blind-sided conservative American politicians. God must intervene soon, and "WE" all know that "God acts in mysterious ways!!!"

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Jan 24, 2015 10:46:04   #
robert66
 
Loki wrote:
Some of you will see the byline, and ignore this post because of it. Bear in mind that this is not opinion, it is simply reporting.
http://www.teaparty.org/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-democratic-party-79199
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JANUARY 24, 2015 3:34 AM
POLITICS
(New Zeal) - New national chair of the Communist Party USA, Chicago man John Bachtell has admitted that his Party “utilizes” the Democratic Party “to advance its agenda.”

Writing on the People’s World website Bachtell explains that much of the left wants to abandon the Democratic Party (as much of the “right” wants to abandon the GOP) to form a radical third party.

In an article entitled A radical third party? I agree! Bachtell explains;

Certainly, there’s widespread disillusionment with both the Democratic and Republican parties. That’s reflected in the latest Pew Research poll: 38 percent of voters describe themselves as independent, 32 percent as Democrats, and 25 percent as Republicans. In 1991, the three were approximately equal.
While acknowledging that both major parties are heavily influenced by Wall Street, Bachtell sees a big difference;

However, it’s not enough to make sweeping generalizations about the Democratic and Republican parties. It’s true both parties are dominated by Wall Street interests, but it’s also necessary to see how each party differs, particularly their social bases and how this affects their policies.

While the Republican Party is led by the most reactionary sections of Wall Street capital including the energy extractive sector and military industrial complex, it also consists of extreme right-wing elements including the Tea Party, white supremacists, social conservatives, right-wing evangelicals, climate deniers, anti-reproductive rights groups, etc.

Meanwhile the Democratic Party is also home to labor, African Americans, Latinos, other communities of color, women, most union members, young people, and a wide range of social and democratic movements. These constituencies exert influence on party leadership and hold positions at all levels.
Therefore it makes sense, according to Bachtell, for the Communist Party, to stick with the Democrats until a viable third party is feasible. To Bachtell, progress towards socialism is possible only after the “right” is soundly defeated.

The Communist Party’s tactics for political independence rest on several interrelated elements. First, they occur within the constraints of the two-party system. We don’t operate in a parliamentary system which allows proportional voting. Instead, winner takes all, and during the general election it usually comes down to voting for one of two candidates most likely to win.

That means candidates are backed by coalitions. Under these circumstances voting based on purity of positions is not a viable tactic. Coalition forces may disagree with a candidate on one or another issue, but find they must support candidates for strategic reasons – to advance issues and create a more favorable terrain of struggle.

Our tactics also occur within the framework of our strategic policy of building a broad coalition to defeat the extreme right, which we see as the main danger to democracy and social progress, embodied within today’s Republican Party. There are voting constituencies that presently support the GOP that have to be won over. Such an approach sees the need to actively challenge right-wing and GOP ideas that influence sections of the people, especially working-class whites, for example,through hate talk radio. This includes racism and intolerance which are key issues dividing the working class.

We see this as one of the stages in the long struggle for advanced democracy and socialism. Without decisively defeating the most reactionary sections of monopoly capital, disintegrating Republican Party support at every level, it’s hard to see winning more radical and advanced programs and policies and waging a fight against the monopoly class as a whole.

We envision a prolonged process toward political independence, with many turns, advances and defeats, utilizing many forms, resulting in a radical third party based in labor, working-class neighborhoods, communities of color, and democratic movements. Such a coalition third party must extend its reach beyond urban areas, to suburbs, exurbs, rural areas, and in “red” states and congressional districts.
Until that glorious day arrives the Communist Party will continue to “utilize” the Democrats;

First, we are part of building the broadest anti-ultra right alliance possible, uniting the widest array of class (including a section of monopoly), social and democratic forces. This necessarily means working with the Democratic Party. This differentiates us from those left groups who underestimate the right danger and overestimate the readiness of key class and social forces to bolt the Democratic Party.

Second, our objective is not to build the Democratic Party. At this stage we are about building the broad people’s movement led by labor that utilizes the vehicle of the Democratic Party to advance its agenda. We are about building the movements around the issues roiling wide sections of people that can help shape election contours and debates.
The Communist Party often upsets less mature Marxists groups because of their refusal to abandon the Democratic Party, despite not always getting every item on their agenda, immediately.

As an experienced Communist, John Bachtell understands that in spite of difficulties and disappointments, the the Communist Party agenda is far better served by infiltrating the Democrats than by marching in the streets yelling revolutionary slogans.

The Communist Party and their only marginally less radical Democratic Socialists of America allies can point to real achievements under their “friend” Barack Obama. Obamacare, illegal immigrant “amnesty”, the NEW START Treaty with Russia, negotiations with Iran, military budget cuts, and recognition of communist Cuba, are all Communist Party policies, implemented through the Democratic Party.

Bachtell understands that to prematurely break with with the Democrats, on some Quixotic adventure of forming a new leftist third party, would almost certainly, hand the next few elections to the GOP. He fears that a revitalized GOP, led by Ted Cruz, or some similar figure , would roll back most, or all of the Communist Party’s hard fought gains.

If US Constitutionalstm conservatives, and Tea Party activists can show similar political discipline and maturity, they will abandon plans for a suicidal third party agenda – for now. Instead they will work through the GOP, as the Communists have through the Democrats. Learn from the opposition. Utilize the GOP machinery and voting base to build a big Constitutionalist base inside the GOP. Build your strength, do as the Communists have done, primary any vulnerable GOP candidates who will not support your Constitutionalist agenda.

The Communists did that to Senator Joe Lieberman from Connecticut. Now virtually no senior Democrats will buck the Communist line. They know the price.

So the Tea Party and their allies need to take back the GOP for Constitutionalism, and ensure that someone of the caliber of Ted Cruz, or Scott Walker is the GOP Presidential nominee in 2016.

If that happens, American can have a second “Reagan Revolution” even better than the first. If doesnt’ the Communist Party will have theirs.

If Constitutionalists fail, and Jeb Bush, or some similar milksop becomes the GOP nominee, they should gather all their forces, leave the GOP en masse and run against him as a third party. At that point Constitutionalists have nothing left to lose. They should also make it very clear to the GOP hierarchy and major donors, that a third party will inevitably follow any further “dirty tricks”, or other attempts to frustrate will of the people.

Less than a thousand hard core Communist Party activists, and their few thousand Democratic Socialists of America allies effectively dictate Democratic Party policy.

If the much larger Constitutionalist/Tea Party movement can learn from their opponent’s tactics and maturity, they can have a real shot at restoring the Republic.

The battle for America is not between the Democrats and the Republicans. It is between the Communists and the Constitutionalists. The Constitutionalists must better understand their opposition, and borrow some of their tactics, if the want a chance of victory.

http://www.trevorloudon.com/2015/01/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-the-democratic-party-a-lesson-for-constitutionalistss/

- See more at: http://www.teaparty.org/top-communist-admits-communist-party-utilizes-democratic-party-79199/#sthash.HeXK284X.dpuf
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If I got the hint at the start correct , this is supposedly just reporting , completely non biased , not opinion. Thank you for showing me how easy it is to convince righties that bullshit is facts.

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Jan 24, 2015 12:44:19   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
The MSM attacks Muslims and their sharia law (Which is terrible), and do little to track their funding. BUT
How is it, that the MSM ignores who has infiltrated our government and bought our politicians for many, many years?
Who are the dual loyalists (dual citizenship) in positions to set government policy?
Who has any idea of who owns the MSM to give us the “news”?
Who has any idea of who has control of “public” education? (common core, text book publishers. Etc.)
Who has any idea of who has control of US foreign policy? (CFR vetted politicians in both parties)
Who has any idea of who has control of our economy? (The private Fed RES)
Who has any idea of who is financially enslaving the world, with their usury? Including the USA ($18 trillion debt), via The FED, IMF, World Bank, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and the rest.
Decades of /NeoCON/NWO/ Bilderberger’s “Foreign Policy” has got America involved in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Libya, Egypt, Ukraine and ETC. The warmongers are still pushing for Ukraine, Syria and Iran. Our “Allies” have become “enemies” over and over and over! Most recent; the US armed the radical Sunnis (ISIS) in Syria via Libya and Turkey, to fight Assad’s Shiite government in Syria. Now the US is fighting the ISIS/Sunni/ Al-Qaida slaughter going on in Iraq. The NeoCONs (ie. FOX, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and other CFR pundits), continue to push for attack of the Shiite governments in Syria and Iran.
According to the Talking Heads on network TV, all Shiites are our enemies. Disregarding all the Saudi Sunni’s involved with 911, etc.
Research who attacks who and find out why.
The truth is attainable for anyone who gives a damn, and who takes some time to get to the truth. Americans are being set up for some really bad turmoil (martial law under Dept. of Homeland Security), and the Powers That Be will deliver their planned “solutions” (Google and You Tube FEMA camps, Agenda 21 for starters).
These will be really bad solutions for those that care about liberty, freedom and our Constitution.


robert66 wrote:
If I got the hint at the start correct , this is supposedly just reporting , completely non biased , not opinion. Thank you for showing me how easy it is to convince righties that bullshit is facts.

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Jan 24, 2015 14:24:36   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
robert66 wrote:
If I got the hint at the start correct , this is supposedly just reporting , completely non biased , not opinion. Thank you for showing me how easy it is to convince righties that bullshit is facts.



These are quotes, mostly, from the head of CPUSA. The editorializing afterward was sort of added on inadvertently. I have had a busy day. Concerning bullshit, exactly what part did you consider bullshit, and why? You do seem to be an authority on it's dissemination.
Be specific. When you yell "bullshit," you should be able to point to specifics. Rebut away. Maybe you'll convince me.

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Jan 24, 2015 14:34:39   #
CarolSeer2016
 
robert66 wrote:
If I got the hint at the start correct , this is supposedly just reporting , completely non biased , not opinion. Thank you for showing me how easy it is to convince righties that bullshit is facts.


Actually, you're trying to convince Righties, that YOU are right and everything else is bullshit.

Some questions:

The Communist Party may say they are working with other parties, but the final outcome in their eyes is a one-party system.
Well I guess that wasn't a question. It's a fact and everyone knows it.

The other fact, since the Communists are aware that Socialism can only work if everyone believes in Socialism, then the entire world must become Communist.

Do you have a problem with those 2 facts?

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Jan 24, 2015 14:47:30   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
The Commies are pretty easy to figure out. Just quote them. Why is it so hard to figure out the NeoCONs and the proposed NWO? These two quotes should at least get some people thinking. We have 30 years of results to see how successful this agenda has been.
“An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal attack" – Richard Gardner ,
Ambassador to Italy - quoted in (CFR)Foreign Affairs, April, 1974
“Actions at the multinational level will be needed, if the process of international relocation of industries is to be accelerated in an organized fashion…….” TC Report #23, 1982


CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Actually, you're trying to convince Righties, that YOU are right and everything else is bullshit.

Some questions:

The Communist Party may say they are working with other parties, but the final outcome in their eyes is a one-party system.
Well I guess that wasn't a question. It's a fact and everyone knows it.

The other fact, since the Communists are aware that Socialism can only work if everyone believes in Socialism, then the entire world must become Communist.

Do you have a problem with those 2 facts?
Actually, you're trying to convince Righties, that... (show quote)

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Jan 24, 2015 14:50:08   #
CarolSeer2016
 
eagleye13 wrote:
The Commies are pretty eassy to figure out. Just quote them. Why is it so haed to figure out the NeoCONs and the proposed NWO? These two quotes should at least get some people thinking. We have 30 years of results to see how successful this agenda has been.
“An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal attack" – Richard Gardner ,
Ambassador to Italy - quoted in (CFR)Foreign Affairs, April, 1974
“Actions at the multinational level will be needed, if the process of international relocation of industries is to be accelerated in an organized fashion…….” TC Report #23, 1982
The Commies are pretty eassy to figure out. Just q... (show quote)


I knew I was right!!

Just because that's what they've been saying for over a hundred years, of course, how does that affect truth value?

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Jan 24, 2015 14:52:40   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
JMHO wrote:
I highly recommend reading Trevor Louden's book: "Barack Obama, and the Enemies Within" an excellent read. Louden has probably done more research on Obama than anyone, and he has him pegged in this book.


you've got that right. Good book as is The Communist about Frank Marshall David Obama's mentor and, according to some sex partner. and ALL the Dupes Fit to Print about the media and the CPUSA connections (those two by Paul Kengor)

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Jan 24, 2015 15:00:36   #
robert66
 
Loki wrote:
These are quotes, mostly, from the head of CPUSA. The editorializing afterward was sort of added on inadvertently. I have had a busy day. Concerning bullshit, exactly what part did you consider bullshit, and why? You do seem to be an authority on it's dissemination.
Be specific. When you yell "bullshit," you should be able to point to specifics. Rebut away. Maybe you'll convince me.


I am not going to convince you but I will still comment. My bullshit comment is directed at the intent to claim that the post is just reporting , not opinion. The guy responsible for the information is in no way objective and directs everything he does against the president of the US. Loudon or whatever his name is , is so far right his reporting can only be trusted by someone who agrees with his views before they read anymore of them.

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Jan 24, 2015 15:10:00   #
CarolSeer2016
 
robert66 wrote:
I am not going to convince you but I will still comment. My bullshit comment is directed at the intent to claim that the post is just reporting , not opinion. The guy responsible for the information is in no way objective and directs everything he does against the president of the US. Loudon or whatever his name is , is so far right his reporting can only be trusted by someone who agrees with his views before they read anymore of them.


You need to concentrate your criticism on the facts, not the person.

Are we not right in our assessment of the CPUSA---that is the question.

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