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Apr 13, 2024 17:34:43   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
One hears a lot about how Democrats are destroying the country and that President Biden is an obvious disaster. What you don’t hear are specifics. What are Democrats specifically doing that’s destroying the country? What specifically has Biden done that’s an obvious disaster?

Are Democrats destroying the economy? Hmmm, record employment doesn’t seem destructive. When Trump left office there were 170,000 fewer manufacturing jobs than when he entered The White House. Over 800,000 manufacturing jobs have been created under Biden’s leadership. That doesn’t seem like a disaster.

You could point at the border and call that a disaster. Okay, but the mess at the border was decades in the making. In 2013 the Senate passed a bipartisan immigration reform bill. The Republican led House refused to even bring the bill to the floor. Under Trump Republicans had four years to pass an immigration reform bill and they didn’t do it. The immigration laws we have today were passed by politicians beholden to The Donor Class which wanted cheap labor. Anger toward immigrants is misdirected, you should direct your anger toward fat cat donors and the politicians that serviced the interests of those donors.

Mad about inflation? Yeah sure, but remember the current rise in inflation is a worldwide event and the US is doing much better than the vast majority of other countries. The average inflation rate internationally is 6.5%. The current US inflation rate is 3.2%. It appears that the Democrat’s Inflation Reduction Act is working. Doesn’t sound like destruction to me.

I could go on, but the point is that simply saying that Democrats are destroying the country is just bumpersticker bullshit. Give me specifics, give me evidence to back up your assertion. Oh, I forgot, Republicans don’t really deal with evidence, they’re more into feelings.



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Apr 13, 2024 18:28:04   #
Lily
 
permafrost wrote:
One hears a lot about how Democrats are destroying the country and that President Biden is an obvious disaster. What you don’t hear are specifics. What are Democrats specifically doing that’s destroying the country? What specifically has Biden done that’s an obvious disaster?

Are Democrats destroying the economy? Hmmm, record employment doesn’t seem destructive. When Trump left office there were 170,000 fewer manufacturing jobs than when he entered The White House. Over 800,000 manufacturing jobs have been created under Biden’s leadership. That doesn’t seem like a disaster.

You could point at the border and call that a disaster. Okay, but the mess at the border was decades in the making. In 2013 the Senate passed a bipartisan immigration reform bill. The Republican led House refused to even bring the bill to the floor. Under Trump Republicans had four years to pass an immigration reform bill and they didn’t do it. The immigration laws we have today were passed by politicians beholden to The Donor Class which wanted cheap labor. Anger toward immigrants is misdirected, you should direct your anger toward fat cat donors and the politicians that serviced the interests of those donors.

Mad about inflation? Yeah sure, but remember the current rise in inflation is a worldwide event and the US is doing much better than the vast majority of other countries. The average inflation rate internationally is 6.5%. The current US inflation rate is 3.2%. It appears that the Democrat’s Inflation Reduction Act is working. Doesn’t sound like destruction to me.

I could go on, but the point is that simply saying that Democrats are destroying the country is just bumpersticker bullshit. Give me specifics, give me evidence to back up your assertion. Oh, I forgot, Republicans don’t really deal with evidence, they’re more into feelings.
One hears a lot about how Democrats are destroying... (show quote)


Your belief in the jobs numbers is blind belief in lies.

“Fewer Americans have full-time jobs, and more of those with full-time jobs are also working part-time jobs to make ends meet,” Lobue wrote.

Indeed, citing data from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, Lobue found that the economy actually shed 6,000 full-time jobs”in March.

Incredibly, 75 percent of those 303,000 new jobs actually qualified as second jobs.

Thus, according to Lobue, “Democrats’ ‘good news’ is just you having to work longer and harder to survive.”

For that, of course, we may thank several years of runaway inflation.

Furthermore, government jobs make up nearly 25 percent of the total jobs added in March.



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Apr 13, 2024 21:47:21   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
One hears a lot about how Democrats are destroying the country and that President Biden is an obvious disaster. What you don’t hear are specifics. What are Democrats specifically doing that’s destroying the country? What specifically has Biden done that’s an obvious disaster?

Are Democrats destroying the economy? Hmmm, record employment doesn’t seem destructive. When Trump left office there were 170,000 fewer manufacturing jobs than when he entered The White House. Over 800,000 manufacturing jobs have been created under Biden’s leadership. That doesn’t seem like a disaster.

You could point at the border and call that a disaster. Okay, but the mess at the border was decades in the making. In 2013 the Senate passed a bipartisan immigration reform bill. The Republican led House refused to even bring the bill to the floor. Under Trump Republicans had four years to pass an immigration reform bill and they didn’t do it. The immigration laws we have today were passed by politicians beholden to The Donor Class which wanted cheap labor. Anger toward immigrants is misdirected, you should direct your anger toward fat cat donors and the politicians that serviced the interests of those donors.

Mad about inflation? Yeah sure, but remember the current rise in inflation is a worldwide event and the US is doing much better than the vast majority of other countries. The average inflation rate internationally is 6.5%. The current US inflation rate is 3.2%. It appears that the Democrat’s Inflation Reduction Act is working. Doesn’t sound like destruction to me.

I could go on, but the point is that simply saying that Democrats are destroying the country is just bumpersticker bullshit. Give me specifics, give me evidence to back up your assertion. Oh, I forgot, Republicans don’t really deal with evidence, they’re more into feelings.
One hears a lot about how Democrats are destroying... (show quote)


As you get older, your brain deteriorates, so they say, Permi. Yours must look like a raisen rattling around in your shrunken skull.

If you go by the media you read, there isn't much evidence. If you live out here in the world, the evidence is in your face every day.
I know, I know, it's all corporate greed. Right?
Neither the democrats, nor the republicans seem to have any interest in reining it in for the benefit of the American people.
The AMERICAN people who work hard, and long for what they have. Only to have a good portion taken from them to "fund" queers, climate change, and wars. Those are ALL on democrats. The DEI thing, is ALL on democrats. The no bail policies letting hard core criminals out to prey on more people is ALL on democrats.
I detest both parties, but, by far, the democrats are worse in my opinion.

When the next major terrorist attack happens here, and it will. You will have blood dripping from your hands because you support, and make excuses for your party.
Every. Single. Death as a result of democrat policies is on YOUR hands. Because you vote for them, and support them. Make all the excuses you want, but it's out there for the world to see.

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Apr 13, 2024 22:23:30   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
permafrost wrote:
One hears a lot about how Democrats are destroying the country and that President Biden is an obvious disaster. What you don’t hear are specifics. What are Democrats specifically doing that’s destroying the country? What specifically has Biden done that’s an obvious disaster?

Are Democrats destroying the economy? Hmmm, record employment doesn’t seem destructive. When Trump left office there were 170,000 fewer manufacturing jobs than when he entered The White House. Over 800,000 manufacturing jobs have been created under Biden’s leadership. That doesn’t seem like a disaster.

You could point at the border and call that a disaster. Okay, but the mess at the border was decades in the making. In 2013 the Senate passed a bipartisan immigration reform bill. The Republican led House refused to even bring the bill to the floor. Under Trump Republicans had four years to pass an immigration reform bill and they didn’t do it. The immigration laws we have today were passed by politicians beholden to The Donor Class which wanted cheap labor. Anger toward immigrants is misdirected, you should direct your anger toward fat cat donors and the politicians that serviced the interests of those donors.

Mad about inflation? Yeah sure, but remember the current rise in inflation is a worldwide event and the US is doing much better than the vast majority of other countries. The average inflation rate internationally is 6.5%. The current US inflation rate is 3.2%. It appears that the Democrat’s Inflation Reduction Act is working. Doesn’t sound like destruction to me.

I could go on, but the point is that simply saying that Democrats are destroying the country is just bumpersticker bullshit. Give me specifics, give me evidence to back up your assertion. Oh, I forgot, Republicans don’t really deal with evidence, they’re more into feelings.
One hears a lot about how Democrats are destroying... (show quote)


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Apr 13, 2024 22:44:31   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
archie bunker wrote:
As you get older, your brain deteriorates, so they say, Permi. Yours must look like a raisen rattling around in your shrunken skull.

If you go by the media you read, there isn't much evidence. If you live out here in the world, the evidence is in your face every day.
I know, I know, it's all corporate greed. Right?
Neither the democrats, nor the republicans seem to have any interest in reining it in for the benefit of the American people.
The AMERICAN people who work hard, and long for what they have. Only to have a good portion taken from them to "fund" queers, climate change, and wars. Those are ALL on democrats. The DEI thing, is ALL on democrats. The no bail policies letting hard core criminals out to prey on more people is ALL on democrats.
I detest both parties, but, by far, the democrats are worse in my opinion.

When the next major terrorist attack happens here, and it will. You will have blood dripping from your hands because you support, and make excuses for your party.
Every. Single. Death as a result of democrat policies is on YOUR hands. Because you vote for them, and support them. Make all the excuses you want, but it's out there for the world to see.
As you get older, your brain deteriorates, so they... (show quote)


He has no answer for Lily’s offering of employment numbers and information. It is hard to refute accurate information.

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Apr 13, 2024 22:48:13   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
archie bunker wrote:
As you get older, your brain deteriorates, so they say, Permi. Yours must look like a raisen rattling around in your shrunken skull.

If you go by the media you read, there isn't much evidence. If you live out here in the world, the evidence is in your face every day.
I know, I know, it's all corporate greed. Right?
Neither the democrats, nor the republicans seem to have any interest in reining it in for the benefit of the American people.
The AMERICAN people who work hard, and long for what they have. Only to have a good portion taken from them to "fund" queers, climate change, and wars. Those are ALL on democrats. The DEI thing, is ALL on democrats. The no bail policies letting hard core criminals out to prey on more people is ALL on democrats.
I detest both parties, but, by far, the democrats are worse in my opinion.

When the next major terrorist attack happens here, and it will. You will have blood dripping from your hands because you support, and make excuses for your party.
Every. Single. Death as a result of democrat policies is on YOUR hands. Because you vote for them, and support them. Make all the excuses you want, but it's out there for the world to see.
As you get older, your brain deteriorates, so they... (show quote)


Believe as you wish Archie... I just do not give a rats ass anymore... have a good one.... enjoy..



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Apr 13, 2024 22:54:14   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Believe as you wish Archie... I just do not give a rats ass anymore... have a good one.... enjoy..


I see what I see......



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Apr 13, 2024 22:55:21   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Lily wrote:
Your belief in the jobs numbers is blind belief in lies.

“Fewer Americans have full-time jobs, and more of those with full-time jobs are also working part-time jobs to make ends meet,” Lobue wrote.

Indeed, citing data from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, Lobue found that the economy actually shed 6,000 full-time jobs”in March.

Incredibly, 75 percent of those 303,000 new jobs actually qualified as second jobs.

Thus, according to Lobue, “Democrats’ ‘good news’ is just you having to work longer and harder to survive.”

For that, of course, we may thank several years of runaway inflation.

Furthermore, government jobs make up nearly 25 percent of the total jobs added in March.
Your belief in the jobs numbers is blind belief in... (show quote)


total nonsense, lily... at least when I am out and about. jobs all over the place.. jobs going begging , hiring bonus, wage increases..

YOu may live in a shit hole, but I doubt very much that we in the north country are a minority who by chance are enjoying a nice recovery and in a country which is a world leader in the recovery..

All of you weeping orange lovers should truly suffer a while so you know what it is like.. this year of 2024 is looking rosey and sunny. no rain on our parade..

If we can keep the criminal trump from again slithering into the oval all should be fine..

the fly in the ointment may well be Iran attacking Israel this evening.. but do not worry until we have reason to do so..the ayatollahs may die by morning...

Good night, enjoy Sunday..

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Apr 13, 2024 22:59:29   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
AuntiE wrote:
He has no answer for Lily’s offering of employment numbers and information. It is hard to refute accurate information.


I do firmly believe my information is more to the point and truth than what Lily posted..My posting is historically correct.... but believe as you wish and have a nice Sunday...

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Apr 13, 2024 23:44:15   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
permafrost wrote:
One hears a lot about how Democrats are destroying the country and that President Biden is an obvious disaster. What you don’t hear are specifics. What are Democrats specifically doing that’s destroying the country? What specifically has Biden done that’s an obvious disaster?

Are Democrats destroying the economy? Hmmm, record employment doesn’t seem destructive. When Trump left office there were 170,000 fewer manufacturing jobs than when he entered The White House. Over 800,000 manufacturing jobs have been created under Biden’s leadership. That doesn’t seem like a disaster.

You could point at the border and call that a disaster. Okay, but the mess at the border was decades in the making. In 2013 the Senate passed a bipartisan immigration reform bill. The Republican led House refused to even bring the bill to the floor. Under Trump Republicans had four years to pass an immigration reform bill and they didn’t do it. The immigration laws we have today were passed by politicians beholden to The Donor Class which wanted cheap labor. Anger toward immigrants is misdirected, you should direct your anger toward fat cat donors and the politicians that serviced the interests of those donors.

Mad about inflation? Yeah sure, but remember the current rise in inflation is a worldwide event and the US is doing much better than the vast majority of other countries. The average inflation rate internationally is 6.5%. The current US inflation rate is 3.2%. It appears that the Democrat’s Inflation Reduction Act is working. Doesn’t sound like destruction to me.

I could go on, but the point is that simply saying that Democrats are destroying the country is just bumpersticker bullshit. Give me specifics, give me evidence to back up your assertion. Oh, I forgot, Republicans don’t really deal with evidence, they’re more into feelings.
One hears a lot about how Democrats are destroying... (show quote)


You are beginning to sound discouraged. I still agree with what George Corley Wallace said in 1968, “There is not a nickels worth of difference between a Democrat and a Republican.” I cannot show what anyone will call hard facts but under Biden’s Presidency I see that China after two centuries of European dominance there is finally returning to a leadership roll again. The history of China is one of leadership and stagnation repeated again and again over the centuries. A fact that China does not meet with American leaders who go but are able to only meet with second tier leaders should sort of tell us that a rising world power does not have high regard for America. The coalescence of the new BRICS union at this point in history will hopefully not affect your life or my life but will affect the lives of our children and grandchildren. The US is going to have to learn to live as a team player, not the bully on the block who is able to coerce the other players to follow his rules. Biden is President as this coalition grows faster and he as the office holder will bear the blame in the history books. Biden is at a point that firefighter on a line face when the embers cross the line and begin spot fires and they are so engaged in stomping on the spot fires they neglect to see the fire jump the line and burn on. For the life of me I cannot see why either Biden or Trump or anyone else wants to be President under these conditions.
They or anyone else are in the position of Priam, Leonidas, the Vikings abandoned on Greenland or any of the others of history at the fall of empire.

Happier note. Anyone who gets to see one of those cats is lucky but one who sees one on the doorstep is twice blessed.

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Apr 14, 2024 00:18:35   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
I do firmly believe my information is more to the point and truth than what Lily posted..My posting is historically correct.... but believe as you wish and have a nice Sunday...


What Lily posted is directly from the March labor/jobs report.

In fact, every single month BLS is downgrading the number of jobs from the month before.

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Apr 14, 2024 00:20:37   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
total nonsense, lily... at least when I am out and about. jobs all over the place.. jobs going begging , hiring bonus, wage increases..

YOu may live in a shit hole, but I doubt very much that we in the north country are a minority who by chance are enjoying a nice recovery and in a country which is a world leader in the recovery..

All of you weeping orange lovers should truly suffer a while so you know what it is like.. this year of 2024 is looking rosey and sunny. no rain on our parade..

If we can keep the criminal trump from again slithering into the oval all should be fine..

the fly in the ointment may well be Iran attacking Israel this evening.. but do not worry until we have reason to do so..the ayatollahs may die by morning...

Good night, enjoy Sunday..
total nonsense, lily... at least when I am out and... (show quote)


There are fervent prayers that Mossad manages rid the world of the ayatollahs. Biden has certainly seen to it that Iran has every thing they need.

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Apr 14, 2024 00:23:11   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
AuntiE wrote:
What Lily posted is directly from the March labor/jobs report.

In fact, every single month BLS is downgrading the number of jobs from the month before.


Straight of the press.

What is the jobless rate for foreign-born workers?

Employees who were born outside the U.S. had a lower jobless rate last year than native-born workers, the BLS said.

Foreign-born workers had an unemployment rate of 3.4% in 2022, compared with 3.7% for people born in the U.S., it noted.

The biggest difference was among men, with about 77% of immigrant male workers over the age of 16 in the workforce, compared with 66% of those born in America, the analysis found.

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Apr 14, 2024 00:26:02   #
Lily
 
permafrost wrote:
total nonsense, lily... at least when I am out and about. jobs all over the place.. jobs going begging , hiring bonus, wage increases..

YOu may live in a shit hole, but I doubt very much that we in the north country are a minority who by chance are enjoying a nice recovery and in a country which is a world leader in the recovery..

All of you weeping orange lovers should truly suffer a while so you know what it is like.. this year of 2024 is looking rosey and sunny. no rain on our parade..

If we can keep the criminal trump from again slithering into the oval all should be fine..

the fly in the ointment may well be Iran attacking Israel this evening.. but do not worry until we have reason to do so..the ayatollahs may die by morning...

Good night, enjoy Sunday..
total nonsense, lily... at least when I am out and... (show quote)


Aren’t you just so special. Just because you don’t like facts that don’t match your local geographic area doesn’t make them wrong.

Speaking of sh*t holes. Look in the mirror your arrogant piece of said stuff.

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Apr 14, 2024 02:56:24   #
dbirch
 
Lily wrote:
Aren’t you just so special. Just because you don’t like facts that don’t match your local geographic area doesn’t make them wrong.

Speaking of sh*t holes. Look in the mirror your arrogant piece of said stuff.


Lilly?

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