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Apr 14, 2024 14:16:04   #
DASHY
 
martsiva wrote:
And you got all this info from where??


You can read about the Republican Plan to shaft Seniors here:https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/04/04/fact-sheet-extreme-house-republican-plan-would-cut-medicare-and-social-security-while-slashing-taxes-for-big-corporations-and-the-wealthy/

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Apr 14, 2024 14:30:24   #
martsiva
 


The White House?? The Biden White House?? The anti-American damage to this country Biden White House?? Try again!!

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Apr 14, 2024 14:46:39   #
DASHY
 
martsiva wrote:
The White House?? The Biden White House?? The anti-American damage to this country Biden White House?? Try again!!


https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000018e-5eee-d931-afcf-5efec1b70000

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Apr 14, 2024 15:18:31   #
martsiva
 
DASHY wrote:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000018e-5eee-d931-afcf-5efec1b70000


Politico is just as left leaning as Biden`s White house is! Biden wanted to cut SS and Medicare back in '83' for crying out loud!!

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Apr 14, 2024 15:27:01   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 


Straight from the liars mouths

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Apr 14, 2024 15:30:50   #
DASHY
 
martsiva wrote:
Politico is just as left leaning as Biden`s White house is! Biden wanted to cut SS and Medicare back in '83' for crying out loud!!


It's a good idea to use current data when making policy decisions.

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Apr 14, 2024 16:02:15   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
kittibob wrote:
He's right, though, isn't he? When you can't refute what is said you resort to name calling.


No he is NOT right. Many right wingers respond to name calling with name calling. Responding with name calling to logical arguments and questions is a LEFTIST trait that PR rarely uses, if ever. She DOES, however, call a spade a spade when it claims to be a heart.

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Apr 14, 2024 16:13:09   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
DASHY wrote:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000018e-5eee-d931-afcf-5efec1b70000


Even if true, not saying that it is....I do not trust YOU or your sources due to your proven history, the corporations and the wealthy are the source of all employment and wealth creation in America. Anything that does NOT support them is anti-American and a disaster for the future. Of course there should and must be reasonable limits. So far, the Democrats have not proposed one in over 60 years. Instead, they have encouraged and nurtured the foolish and idiotic laughable and economically suicidal attitude that the wealthy got that way by 'stealing' from the 'poor'.

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Apr 14, 2024 16:48:46   #
DASHY
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Even if true, not saying that it is....I do not trust YOU or your sources due to your proven history, the corporations and the wealthy are the source of all employment and wealth creation in America. Anything that does NOT support them is anti-American and a disaster for the future. Of course there should and must be reasonable limits. So far, the Democrats have not proposed one in over 60 years. Instead, they have encouraged and nurtured the foolish and idiotic laughable and economically suicidal attitude that the wealthy got that way by 'stealing' from the 'poor'.
Even if true, not saying that it is....I do not tr... (show quote)


There are many sources of information and opinions about the creation of wealth in America. I do not believe the wealthy "got that way by stealing from the poor". Much of the wealth enjoyed by Americans today has been inherited.

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Apr 14, 2024 18:16:24   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
DASHY wrote:
There are many sources of information and opinions about the creation of wealth in America. I do not believe the wealthy "got that way by stealing from the poor". Much of the wealth enjoyed by Americans today has been inherited.


Which means it was EARNED by parents, grandparents, etc. And, yes, not always by nice means. The inheritors either keep it by working hard, expand it or lose it gradually while enjoying their flamboyant and excessive lifestyle legacy. But guess what, wherever it came from, the parts of the legacy that are SPENT are ALWAYS used to create jobs and payrolls for the poor and middle class. The money put into stocks, bonds, banks, savings, precious metals, and other investments ALSO get used to create jobs and payrolls for the middle class and poor. The increases in wealth for the rich are CREATED, not stolen or unfairly gained.
I can affordably buy utterly AMAZING things and services not available to anyone at any price just ten years ago. My life, as what the Biden Administration calls lower middle class, class, is filled with wonder and miracles over the last 50 years DUE to those economic investments. For that matter, I am ALIVE, and so is my wife, due to medical breakthroughs in medicine and advancements DUE TO INVESTMENTS.
Where did you lose your common sense?
If you and I each buy a new cell phone, do you really care whether some rich investors make $100 instead of $10?? I certainly do not! If they did not make $100, they would invest someplace where they WOULD make $100, so no cell phone for me.
Or are you one of the lunatics who want the GOVERNMENT to decide where most of the money should be invested? How many tanks and warheads do you think we need? How much should Congress and public SERVANTS be making? How many private 'clubs', 'spas', exclusive 'stores', etc, should the public taxpayer be providing for them??
Let the smartest investors invest, and take US along for the ride to prosperity.

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Apr 14, 2024 19:30:15   #
DASHY
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Which means it was EARNED by parents, grandparents, etc. And, yes, not always by nice means. The inheritors either keep it by working hard, expand it or lose it gradually while enjoying their flamboyant and excessive lifestyle legacy. But guess what, wherever it came from, the parts of the legacy that are SPENT are ALWAYS used to create jobs and payrolls for the poor and middle class. The money put into stocks, bonds, banks, savings, precious metals, and other investments ALSO get used to create jobs and payrolls for the middle class and poor. The increases in wealth for the rich are CREATED, not stolen or unfairly gained.
I can affordably buy utterly AMAZING things and services not available to anyone at any price just ten years ago. My life, as what the Biden Administration calls lower middle class, class, is filled with wonder and miracles over the last 50 years DUE to those economic investments. For that matter, I am ALIVE, and so is my wife, due to medical breakthroughs in medicine and advancements DUE TO INVESTMENTS.
Where did you lose your common sense?
If you and I each buy a new cell phone, do you really care whether some rich investors make $100 instead of $10?? I certainly do not! If they did not make $100, they would invest someplace where they WOULD make $100, so no cell phone for me.
Or are you one of the lunatics who want the GOVERNMENT to decide where most of the money should be invested? How many tanks and warheads do you think we need? How much should Congress and public SERVANTS be making? How many private 'clubs', 'spas', exclusive 'stores', etc, should the public taxpayer be providing for them??
Let the smartest investors invest, and take US along for the ride to prosperity.
Which means it was EARNED by parents, grandparents... (show quote)


I agree with many of your remarks about INVESTMENT and wealth creation. I am among the lucky ones who inherited a small chunk of stock in a successful Corporation where my father worked hard to provide a comfortable middle-class lifestyle for our family. I believe in INVESTMENTS. First in myself, with a college education, and after that, owning and operating a successful CPA form. I took on risk by trying to EARN a healthy return on my stock market investments. All these investments landed me in a comfortable Florida retirement community. I am also among those "lunatic" (your word) Americans who believes that one important job of Government is to provide support and services to fellow Americans who need help. I was also a member of that group at one point.

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Apr 14, 2024 20:08:44   #
1ProudAmerican
 
A simple note from a simpleton....

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Apr 14, 2024 23:11:26   #
kittibob
 
FallenOak wrote:
Mr. Airforce, please allow me to present some few fact to you. I return to the past century. Mr. Wilson actually wanted the US to enter WWI. His inept handling of the peace following that war allowed France to create the setting for Germany to finally go to war and we got WWII. There are some books documenting the measures taken by Mr. Hitler to bring Germany out of the absolute devastation in Germany caused by French reparations. Mr. FD Roosevelt couldn’t wait to get involved in WWII and was financing the war before Mr. Roosevelt got his reason for entering the war.

You say Republican wars. Let me cite some numbers. Wilson, WWI US combat deaths 53,402; F Roosevelt, WWII US combat deaths 291,557; Kennedy/Johnson, Vietnam war US combat deaths 47,434; Truman, Korean war US combat deaths 33,686; Bush 2/Obama/Trump/Biden, Iraq war US combat deaths 3,836; Bush 2/Obama/Trump/Biden, Afghanistan war US combat deaths 1,833. I am giving Bush 2 the deaths even though the other three presidents had the option of ending those two wars at any time during their tenure of office.
Total US combat deaths under Democrat Presidents 395,779.
Total US combat deaths under Republican Presidents 5,669.
I have lived in the presidencies of all but Wilson in this list so in my life the Democrat presidents have been liable for 342,377 US deaths while the Republican presidents have been liable for 5,699 US deaths. Which is the warmongering party?

You really need to understand that anything you read in any newspaper is not necessarily truth but a slanted and biased article written by someone who wants to change your mind to his way of thinking. That is TRUTH about any and all news whether Democrat or Republican. Even the Peg here should realize that Fact Checkers are also very biased in the way they present the facts they are supposedly verifying as truth.

Your poisoning the well statement about Trump and Putin can also be said about Biden’s puppet, the little tin dictator in Ukraine who is nothing more and nothing less than a vaudeville comedian pretending to be a president.

I am registered as an Unaffiliated Voter. I do usually vote for the Libertarian candidate however.
Mr. Airforce, please allow me to present some few ... (show quote)


Fallen Oak, I think you’re missing a few acorns. Please allow me to give you some facts:
Had the US not entered WW2 the allies would have been defeated and Germany and Japan would have divided and controlled the world. One can only guess what our lives would have been like had that happened. That fact and the New Deal (Social Security, etc) are why historians rank FDR as one of our greatest presidents.
It was Eisenhower who sent “advisors” to Vietnam and Laos. Kennedy continued the policy. It was Johnson, of course, who escalated it with the fabricated Gulf of Tonkin Incident, which he used to con the Congress into expanding the war by 500,000 troops, one of which was me.
But remember in1968 when Richard Nixon ran for President on the lie that he had a secret plan to end the war? He was elected based on that lie, and also based on the murder of his primary political rival, RFK.
Nixon had no such secret plan and escalated the war into Cambodia.
In 1968 Johnson had negotiated a treaty with North and South Vietnam. Candidate Nixon sent an envoy to Saigon and convinced South Vietnam President Thieu to cancel the treaty, that Nixon would give him a “better deal” when he was President. From that day forward Vietnam became Nixon’s war, as he allowed it to continue for several more years. So much for his “secret plan”. This is all documented in the tape of the Johnson-Dirkson telephone conversation in which Johnson and Dirkson agreed that Nixon had committed treason.
Iraq belongs 100% to President Cheney and his marionette George W. Bush. Afghanistan also belongs to Cheney and Bush, as does 9/11, as Bush was sent a warning of the attack and failed to read it. That’s right, Bush could have prevented 9/11. When the peaceful transfer of power (remember those? ) occurred in 2001 President Clinton advised Bush his primary national security worry would be Al Qaeda. Bush replied no, it was Saddam. “Saddam tried to kill my Dad”, he said.
You claim you don’t believe the media or the fact checkers. Really? Where do you get your information? There is no other source unless you are an eye witness.
Perhaps you should find a source, as you have been fed some bogus information, and neglected some facts.

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Apr 15, 2024 00:23:21   #
Sfurg
 
Well, first the "illegals" actually PAY INTO the social safety net programs, but cannot draw from it because they aren't citizens and don't possess a social security number. They also cannot draw from any other social programs (ie; welfare). When Democratic politicians talk about the "socialisim" programs they support, they arr generally speaking of Democratic Socialism as opposed to "socialism" as defined by countries like Russia and China. IMO

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Apr 15, 2024 02:01:39   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
DASHY wrote:
I agree with many of your remarks about INVESTMENT and wealth creation. I am among the lucky ones who inherited a small chunk of stock in a successful Corporation where my father worked hard to provide a comfortable middle-class lifestyle for our family. I believe in INVESTMENTS. First in myself, with a college education, and after that, owning and operating a successful CPA form. I took on risk by trying to EARN a healthy return on my stock market investments. All these investments landed me in a comfortable Florida retirement community. I am also among those "lunatic" (your word) Americans who believes that one important job of Government is to provide support and services to fellow Americans who need help. I was also a member of that group at one point.
I agree with many of your remarks about INVESTMENT... (show quote)


This is what I said: "Or are you one of the lunatics who want the GOVERNMENT to decide where most of the money should be invested?"
This is what YOU said: "I am also among those "lunatic" (your word) Americans who believes that one important job of Government is to provide support and services to fellow Americans who need help."
Do you see ANY relation between your statement and mind? I surely do NOT. There is a huge difference between a hand up, fairly spread among the citizens, and a lifetime of support handed out to potential political supporters.
But both miss the point. I was referring to the Democrat desire, and admittedly some Republicans, who want to gather the lion's share of created wealth and THEY decide where to invest it. Such as wind farms and solar panels and electric vehicles that do not work as advertised then FORCING them onto American citizens with taxpayer support in perpetuety. Idiocy.
Congratulations on making proper use of our capitalism system. You were more successful at it than I ever was. I am glad you understood it at the time. Why don't you understand it now?

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