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Mar 30, 2024 16:51:16   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.

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Mar 30, 2024 18:01:13   #
Lily
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.
"Things ain't what they used to be and never ... (show quote)



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Mar 30, 2024 18:24:01   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.
"Things ain't what they used to be and never ... (show quote)


As a child of the '60's, and, a feral one at that, I'm not sure of the point of this post.
I think my generation had it better myself. We stayed outside, and, anyone in the neighborhood could beat the everything shit out of you if you screwed up.
If you tripped running to second base, and skinned your knee, get up, rub some dirt on it, and get back in the game.
Myself, and the other kids in the neighborhood had no clue about desegregation until it happened. Then, those black kids were belligerent about being bussed in. Fisticuffs with them was an every day occurrence. Not because of us, but because they were bitter, hateful, and violent.
Queers were where they belong.
In the closet, as they say.
My home wasn't a happy one, so I bailed at 17. Never went back. I've made my way ever since.
Now......I'm a codger, a misanthrope, and don't have any shits left to give.
Wait till I become a geezer like you!!

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Mar 30, 2024 18:27:38   #
BIRDMAN
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.
"Things ain't what they used to be and never ... (show quote)


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Mar 30, 2024 18:45:05   #
Rose42
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.
"Things ain't what they used to be and never ... (show quote)


I remember the good old days when it wasn’t made so easy for sexual predators to go after children, when kids were allowed to be kids rather than being pushed into gender dysphoria, when kids didn’t have such easy access to pornographic material, when children’s movies were clean, when family was more important, when there was less of a sense of victimhood and entitlement, when people didn’t go nuts over politics…I can think of many more

None of that is fantasy - it was real

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Mar 30, 2024 18:50:30   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.
"Things ain't what they used to be and never ... (show quote)


Sounds pretty good to me. And I lived in those days.

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Mar 30, 2024 18:53:16   #
Lily
 
archie bunker wrote:
As a child of the '60's, and, a feral one at that, I'm not sure of the point of this post.
I think my generation had it better myself. We stayed outside, and, anyone in the neighborhood could beat the everything shit out of you if you screwed up.
If you tripped running to second base, and skinned your knee, get up, rub some dirt on it, and get back in the game.
Myself, and the other kids in the neighborhood had no clue about desegregation until it happened. Then, those black kids were belligerent about being bussed in. Fisticuffs with them was an every day occurrence. Not because of us, but because they were bitter, hateful, and violent.
Queers were where they belong.
In the closet, as they say.
My home wasn't a happy one, so I bailed at 17. Never went back. I've made my way ever since.
Now......I'm a codger, a misanthrope, and don't have any shits left to give.
Wait till I become a geezer like you!!
As a child of the '60's, and, a feral one at that,... (show quote)


Of course since he lives out in the country he doesn’t have to deal with everyday issues. His credibility is falling by the wayside. He’s joined the cult of Democrats and Dementia Joe.

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Mar 30, 2024 19:13:00   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Lily wrote:
Of course since he lives out in the country he doesn’t have to deal with everyday issues. His credibility is falling by the wayside. He’s joined the cult of Democrats and Dementia Joe.


From my observations, everything BLUE is failing at an alarming rate.
They want Texas to be blue. Why?

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Mar 30, 2024 19:18:03   #
Lily
 
archie bunker wrote:
From my observations, everything BLUE is failing at an alarming rate.
They want Texas to be blue. Why?


They flip Texas the country will be done. They’re not enough solid red districts to over come the radical blue cities.

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Mar 30, 2024 21:18:34   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
slatten49 wrote:
"Things ain't what they used to be and never were." - Will Rogers

The long-ago days many Americans wish for never truly existed. They see the 1950s through nostalgic lenses and since most of them aren't old enough to really know what they were like, it's not even legitimate nostalgia.

Case in point, the traditional wives. This is a social media thing where mostly men post about how they would love living the idyllic life with or as a 1950s house wife. She has the perfect hair, bakes all the meals and has a martini for her man when he comes home. It's also almost all BS. That wasn't what it was like for the vast majority of women back in the 50s. It's what it was like on the 50's wholesome TV sitcoms and popular advertisements. So they get all the luxuries of a modern woman to play act as women who didn't really exist.

It goes on as they imagine a world that was too good to be true, Like the days you didn't have to lock your doors at night. If we didn't need to lock doors why did they install them in the first place?.

They continue with the fantasy: Only attractive women allowed to fill those positions? There weren't enough women to fit that description at the time to do that. How could they do all those jobs when they were at home all day being young housewives, cooking and taking care of the kids?

However, I think the most important part of the fantasy is not what is in it, but what isn't. There are no race issues in their 1950s, even though that was a huge thing. There are no problems with immigrants, they just magically don't exist (also not true) and women knew their place (women were fighting tooth and nail for their rights at the time). No gay people, no foreign powers trying to interfere with their way of life (The Cold War?) and no non-Christians spreading their Faiths.

So really, no, they don't want to go back to 'the good 'ol days'. They just prefer to live with a fantasy.
"Things ain't what they used to be and never ... (show quote)


I had my heart set on a Donna Reed or Mrs Cleaver but instead I got Reba lol

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Mar 30, 2024 21:58:55   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Lily wrote:
Of course since he lives out in the country he doesn’t have to deal with everyday issues. His credibility is falling by the wayside. He’s joined the cult of Democrats and Dementia Joe.

Close to sixty of my seventy-five years of life, I lived in Houston or Austin. So, you can dismiss my not having ever lived with everyday issues that came with raising three kids as a single parent in a big city.

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Mar 30, 2024 22:10:45   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
archie bunker wrote:
As a child of the '60's, and, a feral one at that, I'm not sure of the point of this post.
I think my generation had it better myself. We stayed outside, and, anyone in the neighborhood could beat the everything shit out of you if you screwed up.
If you tripped running to second base, and skinned your knee, get up, rub some dirt on it, and get back in the game.
Myself, and the other kids in the neighborhood had no clue about desegregation until it happened. Then, those black kids were belligerent about being bussed in. Fisticuffs with them was an every day occurrence. Not because of us, but because they were bitter, hateful, and violent.
Queers were where they belong.
In the closet, as they say.
My home wasn't a happy one, so I bailed at 17. Never went back. I've made my way ever since.
Now......I'm a codger, a misanthrope, and don't have any shits left to give.
Wait till I become a geezer like you!!
As a child of the '60's, and, a feral one at that,... (show quote)

Geezer though I am, Arch, quite a few memories of my youth ring similarly true with yours. But then, I was about a generation ahead of you. Like you, my childhood was a difficult one. So, I bailed at 18, joined the Marines and went to Viet Nam. Came back at 20 (felt more like 40), but made my way successfully in life ever since.

BTW, Arch, the point of the OP is summed up with the opening quote by Will Rogers...kind'a like looking at the past through rose-colored glasses.

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Mar 30, 2024 22:11:50   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I had my heart set on a Donna Reed or Mrs Cleaver but instead I got Reba lol

Hey, Tom, Reba's damn good

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Mar 30, 2024 22:13:00   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Sounds pretty good to me. And I lived in those days.

Yeah, so did I.

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Mar 30, 2024 22:16:03   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Lily, a lot is less interesting if you remain bitter, dazed and confused.

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