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Mar 30, 2024 21:31:48   #
Ted_68
 
permafrost wrote:
What you need Ted , is to become much better informed.. the CC is very real as even a casual look will reveal, and the imbalance is obviously man made.. many natural influences are brought into the event as the world heats up, making the problem ever worse and worse.


Thanks, I still don’t care what the hell you have to say

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Mar 30, 2024 22:34:28   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Most usually you can dumb-luck yourself into getting something/anything right at least once. Not Leftist ideology...it is so evil...it fails-every-time-it's tried. And fails in a vicious/murderous/oppressive way to boot...every time


That's because they don't care about being right, they just want their ilk to follow all their tripe and they will. they refuse to think objectively.

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Mar 30, 2024 22:35:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Ted_68 wrote:
Thanks, I still don’t care what the hell you have to say


Permy is WAY over his head on this topic. It is true science and requires true objective thinking.

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Mar 31, 2024 01:12:53   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Ricktloml wrote:
it is rather astounding that these climate alarmists have yet to get 1 prediction right...yet people still swallow their tripe


Are you people truly such idiots or just uninformed????


Just one of the 1000s which were correct and right on the money...

https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming

Even 50-year-old climate models correctly predicted global warming
Study debunks idea that older models were inaccurate


Climate change doubters have a favorite target: climate models. They claim that computer simulations conducted decades ago didn't accurately predict current warming, so the public should be wary of the predictive power of newer models. Now, the most sweeping evaluation of these older models—some half a century old—shows most of them were indeed accurate.

"How much warming we are having today is pretty much right on where models have predicted," says the study's lead author, Zeke Hausfather, a graduate student at the University of California, Berkeley.

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Mar 31, 2024 05:42:50   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
permafrost wrote:
Just for a quick skim....

https://www.edf.org/climate/9-ways-we-know-humans-triggered-climate-change

Breadcrumb
HomeOur workClimateThe problem What causes it
9 ways we know humans caused climate change
Most Americans recognize climate change, but some are still unsure about its causes.

Tens of thousands of scientists in more than a hundred nations have amassed an overwhelming amount of evidence pointing to a clear conclusion: Humans are the main cause of climate change.

We're the ones who burn fossil fuels, produce livestock and clear trees, increasing the amount of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere.

It's like the smoking-cancer link
No one questions the link between smoking and cancer, because the science was settled in the 1960s after more than 50 years of research.

We can think of the state of human activities and climate change as no different than smoking and cancer.

In fact, we are as confident that humans cause climate change as we are that smoking causes cancer.

Scientists have no doubt that humans are causing global warming.

Ilissa Ocko
Ilissa Ocko, Climate Scientist
So what's the evidence?
The research falls into nine independently studied, but physically related, lines of evidence:

Simple chemistry – When we burn carbon-based materials, carbon dioxide (CO2) is emitted (research beginning in the 1900s).
Basic accounting of what we burn, and therefore how much CO2 we emit (data collection beginning in the 1970s).
Measuring CO2 and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and trapped in ice to find they are increasing, with levels higher than anything we've seen in nearly a million years (measurements beginning in the 1950s).
Chemical analysis of the atmospheric CO2 that reveals the increase is coming from burning fossil fuels (research beginning in the 1950s).
Basic physics that shows us that CO2 absorbs heat (research beginning in the 1820s).
Monitoring climate conditions to find that the air, sea and land is warming, as we would expect with rising greenhouse gas emissions; as a response, ice is melting and sea level is rising (research beginning in the 1930s).
Ruling out natural factors that can influence climate like the sun and ocean cycles (research beginning in the 1830s).
Employing computer models to run experiments of natural versus human-influenced simulations of Earth (research beginning in the 1960s).
Consensus among scientists who consider all previous lines of evidence and make their own conclusions (polling beginning in the 1990s).
Just for a quick skim.... br br https://www.edf.o... (show quote)


Permi,
Check out the paper by Drs. William Happer and Richard Lindzen, professors emeriti at Princeton University and Massachusets Institute of Technology, respectively, entitled "Challenging "Net Zero" with Science". After reading their Executive Summary, I was fascinated by the following two points:

• Eliminating fossil fuels and implementing Net Zero policies and actions mean the elimination of fossil fuel-derived nitrogen fertilizers and pesticides that will result in about half the world’s population not having enough food to eat. Many would starve.

• The adoption of Net Zero is the rejection of overwhelming scientific evidence that there is no risk of catastrophic global warming caused by fossil fuels and CO₂. Net Zero, then, violates the tenets of the scientific method that for more than 300 years has underpinned the advancement of western civilization.

MY COMMENT: The Bill Gates and other world elites (aka Globalists) are focused on reducing the worlds population and centralization of power. They use "climate change/global warming/environmentalism" as an excuse for centralization since at least 1972 when the Club Of Rome published a treatise titled ‘The Limits Of Growth’. Their goals were rather direct. They wanted:

A rationale for governmental control of human population numbers.
The power to limit industry.
The power to control energy production and dictate energy sources.
The power to control or limit food production and agriculture.
The ability to micromanage individuals lives in the name of some later defined “greater good.”
A socialized society in which the individual right to property is abandoned.
A one-world economic system which they would manage.
A one-world currency system.
A one-world government managing a handful of separate regions.

https://nicholascreed.substack.com/p/challenging-net-zero-with-science?r=16xjwn&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

https://co2coalition.org/publications/challenging-net-zero-with-science/





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Mar 31, 2024 08:12:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
ACP45 wrote:
Permi,
Check out the paper by Drs. William Happer and Richard Lindzen, professors emeriti at Princeton University and Massachusets Institute of Technology, respectively, entitled "Challenging "Net Zero" with Science". After reading their Executive Summary, I was fascinated by the following two points:

• Eliminating fossil fuels and implementing Net Zero policies and actions mean the elimination of fossil fuel-derived nitrogen fertilizers and pesticides that will result in about half the world’s population not having enough food to eat. Many would starve.

• The adoption of Net Zero is the rejection of overwhelming scientific evidence that there is no risk of catastrophic global warming caused by fossil fuels and CO₂. Net Zero, then, violates the tenets of the scientific method that for more than 300 years has underpinned the advancement of western civilization.

MY COMMENT: The Bill Gates and other world elites (aka Globalists) are focused on reducing the worlds population and centralization of power. They use "climate change/global warming/environmentalism" as an excuse for centralization since at least 1972 when the Club Of Rome published a treatise titled ‘The Limits Of Growth’. Their goals were rather direct. They wanted:

A rationale for governmental control of human population numbers.
The power to limit industry.
The power to control energy production and dictate energy sources.
The power to control or limit food production and agriculture.
The ability to micromanage individuals lives in the name of some later defined “greater good.”
A socialized society in which the individual right to property is abandoned.
A one-world economic system which they would manage.
A one-world currency system.
A one-world government managing a handful of separate regions.

https://nicholascreed.substack.com/p/challenging-net-zero-with-science?r=16xjwn&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true

https://co2coalition.org/publications/challenging-net-zero-with-science/
Permi, br Check out the paper by Drs. William Happ... (show quote)


And the warming will continue at the exact pace it is occurring now.

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