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Mar 27, 2024 16:22:20   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
On April 1, California's minimum wage for "quick-service" workers (don't call them fast-food workers) will go from $16 an hour to $20 an hour. According to ABC News, there are a whole host of exemptions to that wage: restaurants in airports, stadiums, hotels, theme parks, museums, and "certain other locations, as prescribed" by the legislation.

The law would apply to restaurants with more than 60 stores nationwide. However, those exemptions largely depend on how much money a company has donated to California Democratic politicians. Panera Bread's corrupt example of receiving an exemption to the wage law illustrates the case clearly.

This is a separate issue from whether or not fast-food employees are worth $20 an hour to the companies they work for. Those workers are about to find out they're not.

I'm sure all these employees work hard for that $16 an hour. They're always polite to customers, never backtalk the boss, and are never wrong in fulfilling an order.

Even if that fantasy were true, they still wouldn't be worth $20 an hour. Many factors go into determining employee wages, but since there is little else a franchise owner can control besides wages, it becomes critical to keep wages at a level where he can still sell products at a reasonable profit.

How much pain is the franchise owner willing to inflict on his customers to keep making money? For some California franchises like McDonald's and Chipotle, they have little choice but to hike menu prices. As far as raising prices, how much would you pay for a Big Mac, and would you buy the same number of Big Macs every week at a higher price? Others can make do with fewer employees or lay off workers. In both cases, service will suffer.

KTLA:

In December, two major Pizza Hut franchise operators announced they would be laying off all in-house delivery drivers as a result of Assembly Bill 1228, which passed in the state Legislature and was signed into law by Gov. Gavin Newsom in September.

The bill is seen as a critical cost-of-living boost for the approximately 700,000 quick-service restaurant workers in the Golden State who launched a statewide union last month after successfully lobbying for the wage increase.

Alexander Johnson, whose family owns 10 Auntie Anne’s and Cinnabon locations in California, told the WSJ that he has reduced his staff by about 10 employees and his 73-year-old parents have returned to working in their stores to save on labor costs.


“It pains me to think about shutting down stores or laying people off,” said Johnson. “I love California, and I’m very sad about what’s going on.”

One thing is certain: The new wage law will supercharge the restaurant automation industry. Mexican food chain El Pollo Loco will begin automating some of its salsa making, and Jack in the Box is testing "fryer robots and automated drink dispensers," according to the Wall Street Journal.

So far, 1,300 delivery drivers have been laid off. And that's just the beginning. The biggest question will be in the ability of companies to manage with fewer employees while delivering the service that customers have come to expect while maintaining competitive pricing. It's an eye of the needle that many companies won't be able to hit.

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Mar 27, 2024 16:28:39   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Parky60 wrote:
On April 1, California's minimum wage for "quick-service" workers (don't call them fast-food workers) will go from $16 an hour to $20 an hour. According to ABC News, there are a whole host of exemptions to that wage: restaurants in airports, stadiums, hotels, theme parks, museums, and "certain other locations, as prescribed" by the legislation.

The law would apply to restaurants with more than 60 stores nationwide. However, those exemptions largely depend on how much money a company has donated to California Democratic politicians. Panera Bread's corrupt example of receiving an exemption to the wage law illustrates the case clearly.

This is a separate issue from whether or not fast-food employees are worth $20 an hour to the companies they work for. Those workers are about to find out they're not.

I'm sure all these employees work hard for that $16 an hour. They're always polite to customers, never backtalk the boss, and are never wrong in fulfilling an order.

Even if that fantasy were true, they still wouldn't be worth $20 an hour. Many factors go into determining employee wages, but since there is little else a franchise owner can control besides wages, it becomes critical to keep wages at a level where he can still sell products at a reasonable profit.

How much pain is the franchise owner willing to inflict on his customers to keep making money? For some California franchises like McDonald's and Chipotle, they have little choice but to hike menu prices. As far as raising prices, how much would you pay for a Big Mac, and would you buy the same number of Big Macs every week at a higher price? Others can make do with fewer employees or lay off workers. In both cases, service will suffer.

KTLA:

In December, two major Pizza Hut franchise operators announced they would be laying off all in-house delivery drivers as a result of Assembly Bill 1228, which passed in the state Legislature and was signed into law by Gov. Gavin Newsom in September.

The bill is seen as a critical cost-of-living boost for the approximately 700,000 quick-service restaurant workers in the Golden State who launched a statewide union last month after successfully lobbying for the wage increase.

Alexander Johnson, whose family owns 10 Auntie Anne’s and Cinnabon locations in California, told the WSJ that he has reduced his staff by about 10 employees and his 73-year-old parents have returned to working in their stores to save on labor costs.


“It pains me to think about shutting down stores or laying people off,” said Johnson. “I love California, and I’m very sad about what’s going on.”

One thing is certain: The new wage law will supercharge the restaurant automation industry. Mexican food chain El Pollo Loco will begin automating some of its salsa making, and Jack in the Box is testing "fryer robots and automated drink dispensers," according to the Wall Street Journal.

So far, 1,300 delivery drivers have been laid off. And that's just the beginning. The biggest question will be in the ability of companies to manage with fewer employees while delivering the service that customers have come to expect while maintaining competitive pricing. It's an eye of the needle that many companies won't be able to hit.
On April 1, California's minimum wage for "qu... (show quote)


How much should jobs in the Richest country in the world pay. ????
Are there minimum wage workers in Saudi Arabia ???
OECD Countries?
Shouldn’t we all benefit ???
Why should ball players be paid $428Million ?
They’re ball players.
They at one time had a minimum wage.
It was $5.00 , a pint of wine ,
And a ride on the bus to the next game.

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Mar 27, 2024 16:31:29   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Parky60 wrote:
On April 1, California's minimum wage for "quick-service" workers (don't call them fast-food workers) will go from $16 an hour to $20 an hour. According to ABC News, there are a whole host of exemptions to that wage: restaurants in airports, stadiums, hotels, theme parks, museums, and "certain other locations, as prescribed" by the legislation.

The law would apply to restaurants with more than 60 stores nationwide. However, those exemptions largely depend on how much money a company has donated to California Democratic politicians. Panera Bread's corrupt example of receiving an exemption to the wage law illustrates the case clearly.

This is a separate issue from whether or not fast-food employees are worth $20 an hour to the companies they work for. Those workers are about to find out they're not.

I'm sure all these employees work hard for that $16 an hour. They're always polite to customers, never backtalk the boss, and are never wrong in fulfilling an order.

Even if that fantasy were true, they still wouldn't be worth $20 an hour. Many factors go into determining employee wages, but since there is little else a franchise owner can control besides wages, it becomes critical to keep wages at a level where he can still sell products at a reasonable profit.

How much pain is the franchise owner willing to inflict on his customers to keep making money? For some California franchises like McDonald's and Chipotle, they have little choice but to hike menu prices. As far as raising prices, how much would you pay for a Big Mac, and would you buy the same number of Big Macs every week at a higher price? Others can make do with fewer employees or lay off workers. In both cases, service will suffer.

KTLA:

In December, two major Pizza Hut franchise operators announced they would be laying off all in-house delivery drivers as a result of Assembly Bill 1228, which passed in the state Legislature and was signed into law by Gov. Gavin Newsom in September.

The bill is seen as a critical cost-of-living boost for the approximately 700,000 quick-service restaurant workers in the Golden State who launched a statewide union last month after successfully lobbying for the wage increase.

Alexander Johnson, whose family owns 10 Auntie Anne’s and Cinnabon locations in California, told the WSJ that he has reduced his staff by about 10 employees and his 73-year-old parents have returned to working in their stores to save on labor costs.


“It pains me to think about shutting down stores or laying people off,” said Johnson. “I love California, and I’m very sad about what’s going on.”

One thing is certain: The new wage law will supercharge the restaurant automation industry. Mexican food chain El Pollo Loco will begin automating some of its salsa making, and Jack in the Box is testing "fryer robots and automated drink dispensers," according to the Wall Street Journal.

So far, 1,300 delivery drivers have been laid off. And that's just the beginning. The biggest question will be in the ability of companies to manage with fewer employees while delivering the service that customers have come to expect while maintaining competitive pricing. It's an eye of the needle that many companies won't be able to hit.
On April 1, California's minimum wage for "qu... (show quote)


If you can’t pay a decent wage , close up everything and go home.
We don’t need you here!!!!

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Mar 27, 2024 16:35:23   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Parky60 wrote:
On April 1, California's minimum wage for "quick-service" workers (don't call them fast-food workers) will go from $16 an hour to $20 an hour. According to ABC News, there are a whole host of exemptions to that wage: restaurants in airports, stadiums, hotels, theme parks, museums, and "certain other locations, as prescribed" by the legislation.

The law would apply to restaurants with more than 60 stores nationwide. However, those exemptions largely depend on how much money a company has donated to California Democratic politicians. Panera Bread's corrupt example of receiving an exemption to the wage law illustrates the case clearly.

This is a separate issue from whether or not fast-food employees are worth $20 an hour to the companies they work for. Those workers are about to find out they're not.

I'm sure all these employees work hard for that $16 an hour. They're always polite to customers, never backtalk the boss, and are never wrong in fulfilling an order.

Even if that fantasy were true, they still wouldn't be worth $20 an hour. Many factors go into determining employee wages, but since there is little else a franchise owner can control besides wages, it becomes critical to keep wages at a level where he can still sell products at a reasonable profit.

How much pain is the franchise owner willing to inflict on his customers to keep making money? For some California franchises like McDonald's and Chipotle, they have little choice but to hike menu prices. As far as raising prices, how much would you pay for a Big Mac, and would you buy the same number of Big Macs every week at a higher price? Others can make do with fewer employees or lay off workers. In both cases, service will suffer.

KTLA:

In December, two major Pizza Hut franchise operators announced they would be laying off all in-house delivery drivers as a result of Assembly Bill 1228, which passed in the state Legislature and was signed into law by Gov. Gavin Newsom in September.

The bill is seen as a critical cost-of-living boost for the approximately 700,000 quick-service restaurant workers in the Golden State who launched a statewide union last month after successfully lobbying for the wage increase.

Alexander Johnson, whose family owns 10 Auntie Anne’s and Cinnabon locations in California, told the WSJ that he has reduced his staff by about 10 employees and his 73-year-old parents have returned to working in their stores to save on labor costs.


“It pains me to think about shutting down stores or laying people off,” said Johnson. “I love California, and I’m very sad about what’s going on.”

One thing is certain: The new wage law will supercharge the restaurant automation industry. Mexican food chain El Pollo Loco will begin automating some of its salsa making, and Jack in the Box is testing "fryer robots and automated drink dispensers," according to the Wall Street Journal.

So far, 1,300 delivery drivers have been laid off. And that's just the beginning. The biggest question will be in the ability of companies to manage with fewer employees while delivering the service that customers have come to expect while maintaining competitive pricing. It's an eye of the needle that many companies won't be able to hit.
On April 1, California's minimum wage for "qu... (show quote)


$20 / hr
Vs
A billionaire like Bezos , or musk !
If he can’t pay more we should be taxing him more !
So, pay more , or pay higher taxes .
It was like this at one time.
Invest in your budiness or pay higher taxes .
It was Reagan who did such a number on california.
Forcing real estate prices out of sight for everyone.
Hooray !
The house across the street sold for $350,000,
Now your house has to be reevaluated to $300,000 !
The bad news is now you can’t afford to pay the taxes on it .
So now what. ?
Dishwashers were making $23.00/hr
in the early 70s !
Not much has changed since then .
People living in California, can’t afford to live in california.
Reagan set this same model up for the rest of the country .
Give your money to rich people and we will all be better off !!!
Failed miserably .
Unless you were upper 25% of the population.
Where to the wealth of the middleclass was transferred to ! A $3.9Trillion transfer of wealth.
You want to argue about hamburgers. ?
If you can’t pay decent wages ,
Close it and go home.
How much was the CEO Of AuntieAnns making ???

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Mar 27, 2024 16:47:16   #
Kevyn
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If you can’t pay a decent wage , close up everything and go home.
We don’t need you here!!!!


Companies that underpay workers are on the dole. You and I make up the difference in food stamps housing vouchers and Medicaid. We are essentially subsidizing corporate greed.

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Mar 27, 2024 16:55:26   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Kevyn wrote:
Companies that underpay workers are on the dole. You and I make up the difference in food stamps housing vouchers and Medicaid. We are essentially subsidizing corporate greed.


Exactly!
Walmart was the worst !
Get a job at Walmart and sign up
for food stamps.
Government subsidies workforces .
For the 9 Walton family members now on the
Billionaires List !
If you can’t make pretzels and
create a decent profit
Shut her down and go home.
Stakeholders are more important than shareholders.

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Mar 27, 2024 17:07:31   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If you can’t pay a decent wage , close up everything and go home.
We don’t need you here!!!!


Some people have never grown up enough to realize that it businesses aren't in business to pay a decent wage. They are in business to make a profit on investment. When there is no reasonable profit to be made under the current plan they either close, or raise prices or lay off employees.

Millie is one of those employees I'm guessing.

Whenever government intervenes in those business decisions, companies and employees and customers loose. Only the government wins because they convince the low lifes and free loaders of the world, are ewe on of those, that they are doing them some good and they will vote early and often. But these government types have never run a business, don't care if they fail, and don't care about ewe.

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Mar 27, 2024 17:08:56   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
$20 / hr
Vs
A billionaire like Bezos , or musk !
If he can’t pay more we should be taxing him more !
So, pay more , or pay higher taxes .
It was like this at one time.
Invest in your budiness or pay higher taxes .
It was Reagan who did such a number on california.
Forcing real estate prices out of sight for everyone.
Hooray !
The house across the street sold for $350,000,
Now your house has to be reevaluated to $300,000 !
The bad news is now you can’t afford to pay the taxes on it .
So now what. ?
Dishwashers were making $23.00/hr
in the early 70s !
Not much has changed since then .
People living in California, can’t afford to live in california.
Reagan set this same model up for the rest of the country .
Give your money to rich people and we will all be better off !!!
Failed miserably .
Unless you were upper 25% of the population.
Where to the wealth of the middleclass was transferred to ! A $3.9Trillion transfer of wealth.
You want to argue about hamburgers. ?
If you can’t pay decent wages ,
Close it and go home.
How much was the CEO Of AuntieAnns making ???
$20 / hr br Vs br A billionaire like Bezos , or ... (show quote)


Ewe really are blind bonkers.

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Mar 27, 2024 17:10:04   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Kevyn wrote:
Companies that underpay workers are on the dole. You and I make up the difference in food stamps housing vouchers and Medicaid. We are essentially subsidizing corporate greed.


And laying them off in favor of a robot will make them better off. How?

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Mar 27, 2024 17:10:44   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Exactly!
Walmart was the worst !
Get a job at Walmart and sign up
for food stamps.
Government subsidies workforces .
For the 9 Walton family members now on the
Billionaires List !
If you can’t make pretzels and
create a decent profit
Shut her down and go home.
Stakeholders are more important than shareholders.


***Stakeholders are more important than shareholders.
>>>NOT.

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Mar 27, 2024 18:41:50   #
WEBCO
 
Milosia2 wrote:
$20 / hr
Vs
A billionaire like Bezos , or musk !
If he can’t pay more we should be taxing him more !
So, pay more , or pay higher taxes .
It was like this at one time.
Invest in your budiness or pay higher taxes .
It was Reagan who did such a number on california.
Forcing real estate prices out of sight for everyone.
Hooray !
The house across the street sold for $350,000,
Now your house has to be reevaluated to $300,000 !
The bad news is now you can’t afford to pay the taxes on it .
So now what. ?
Dishwashers were making $23.00/hr
in the early 70s !
Not much has changed since then .
People living in California, can’t afford to live in california.
Reagan set this same model up for the rest of the country .
Give your money to rich people and we will all be better off !!!
Failed miserably .
Unless you were upper 25% of the population.
Where to the wealth of the middleclass was transferred to ! A $3.9Trillion transfer of wealth.
You want to argue about hamburgers. ?
If you can’t pay decent wages ,
Close it and go home.
How much was the CEO Of AuntieAnns making ???
$20 / hr br Vs br A billionaire like Bezos , or ... (show quote)


What will you say when they all do close up shop? Enjoy your 1 hour wait to get your $25 big Mac at the one McDonald's in a 10 mile radius.

You communists never change

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Mar 27, 2024 18:44:52   #
WEBCO
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Exactly!
Walmart was the worst !
Get a job at Walmart and sign up
for food stamps.
Government subsidies workforces .
For the 9 Walton family members now on the
Billionaires List !
If you can’t make pretzels and
create a decent profit
Shut her down and go home.
Stakeholders are more important than shareholders.


Business is a symbiotic relationship.

Looks like lots of companies will need to close up shop in California, home to 30% of all welfare recipients. Ewe will create more welfare recipients with this new law.

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Mar 27, 2024 19:23:10   #
Lily
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If you can’t pay a decent wage , close up everything and go home.
We don’t need you here!!!!


There is not a single fast food employee worth $20 an hour!! If they want more money, take your lazy ass to some kind of training and improve your skills.

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Mar 27, 2024 19:24:09   #
Lily
 
WEBCO wrote:
What will you say when they all do close up shop? Enjoy your 1 hour wait to get your $25 big Mac at the one McDonald's in a 10 mile radius.

You communists never change


Yeah, it equals congratulations on your $20 an hour salary and here’s your pink slip to go with it.

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Mar 27, 2024 19:24:43   #
Lily
 
Kevyn wrote:
Companies that underpay workers are on the dole. You and I make up the difference in food stamps housing vouchers and Medicaid. We are essentially subsidizing corporate greed.


Shut up you dolt!

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