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Mar 8, 2024 19:52:54   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
proud republican wrote:
Your topic 'Stealing election by deception' Does the word 'stealing' means anything to you?


Did it say anything about charging the GOP with voter fraud????? No, it did not. Deceptive political verbiage is not the same thing as trump did in attempting to steal the 2020 election. The whole world knows lies are the standard of too many politicians. Both sides lie. All politicians lie. The issue is which one will follow the consitution.

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Mar 8, 2024 19:55:35   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
Rose42 wrote:
I prefer to read the article



Here you go:

https://www.alternet.org/alternet-exclusives/biden-saudi-arabia-election/

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Mar 8, 2024 20:30:30   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
I see the left wing has conspiracy theory wackos too


Check your local gas prices over the next few months and get back to me on that. Come October, you can explain to me why gas is about $6 a gallon. It is already going up in my neigborhood. See how wacky I am then.

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Mar 8, 2024 20:32:45   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Check your local gas prices over the next few months and get back to me on that. Come October, you can explain to me why gas is about $6 a gallon. It is already going up in my neigborhood. See how wacky I am then.


Oh I see! So it's Jared Kushner's fault, right?

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Mar 8, 2024 20:39:19   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
American Vet wrote:
And I prefer to read the source. After all, you are a leftist and cannot be trusted.


I am not now and never have been a leftist. I fight for democracy and the American way. I have always been a moderate. Voted for Reagan. Daddy Bush. But I am for truth, justice, rule of law, and a strong economy, which has been cut down by corporations bribing congress over the last 50 years to hold down wages, and while wages have crept up in that time about 15 percent or so, the income to the top corporate people has risen over 300 percent. This is exactly what has destroyed our economy and greatness. Nothing creates a great economy but large numbers of people spending money on goods and services. This creates jobs, and jobs build the economy. Reduce or hold down wages in the total scheme of the economy when more of the total wealth in America has moved to the already wealthy, and you reduce the economy. Simple fact. THAT is what has destroyed our greatness. Nothing else.

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Mar 8, 2024 20:46:56   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
proud republican wrote:
Oh I see! So it's Jared Kushner's fault, right?


Ran out of anything to say that made sense of was directed at anything factual? Heck, Jared only grabbed a couple of billion dollars at last count. You don't suppose he shared any of that with Donald, do you?

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Mar 8, 2024 21:08:29   #
American Vet
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
I am not now and never have been a leftist. I fight for democracy and the American way. I have always been a moderate. Voted for Reagan. Daddy Bush. But I am for truth, justice, rule of law, and a strong economy, which has been cut down by corporations bribing congress over the last 50 years to hold down wages, and while wages have crept up in that time about 15 percent or so, the income to the top corporate people has risen over 300 percent. This is exactly what has destroyed our economy and greatness. Nothing creates a great economy but large numbers of people spending money on goods and services. This creates jobs, and jobs build the economy. Reduce or hold down wages in the total scheme of the economy when more of the total wealth in America has moved to the already wealthy, and you reduce the economy. Simple fact. THAT is what has destroyed our greatness. Nothing else.
I am not now and never have been a leftist. I fi... (show quote)


All that blather is meaningless unless the national debt is controlled. Both parties need to come together on it and STOP SPENDING.

You can claim to be anything you want - but you are still not to be trusted.

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Mar 8, 2024 21:28:42   #
BIRDMAN
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Have you noticed gas prices are rising? Get ready: you ain’t seen nothing yet. Ever wonder why gas prices rose so much ahead of the 2022 elections? Wonder why Donald Trump’s son-in-law earned $2 billion from Saudi Arabia? Wonder why gasoline prices are beginning to rise now? Well, here is the real reason. The leader of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia loves his dictatorial soul-mate Donald Trump and is today setting the stage to intervene in November’s election in a big way, much like he did with a smaller test run during the fall of 2022 when he drove US gas prices up above $5, forcing President Biden to release oil from the US strategic petroleum reserve.
The Saudi Prince has routinely given millions to Donald Tump over the years.

As Stanley Reed reported for the Business pages of The New York Times three days ago:
“Saudi Arabia, the de facto leader of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries, said Sunday that it would extend [their one-million-barrels-a-day] cuts in oil production through June, noting that it was acting ‘in coordination with some’ other states.” That “other state” would be their OPEC+ partner Russia, which also announced last weekend a simultaneous production cut of 471,000 barrels a day. Putin wants Trump back in the White House, too.

This time, though, because Trump refused to block the sale of America’s largest gasoline refinery to Saudi Arabia in 2017 (completed in 2019 with Trump’s blessing), no matter how much oil Biden releases from the reserves will be irrelevant: if the Saudis shut down their Port Arthur, Texas refinery this October “for maintenance,” US gasoline prices will explode. It’s the largest refinery in America, as Foreign Policy magazine noted in May 2017: “Port Arthur, referred to as the ‘crown jewel’ of U.S. refinery infrastructure, can process 600,000 barrels of oil a day.” That alone is enough to radically swing gasoline prices in the US.

So, get ready: it’s coming this fall. And unless the administration acts quickly, there will be nothing they can do about it. Gas at $6 a gallon could easily throw the election to Trump, as Biden will take the blame (just like in November 2022) and Fox “News” and rightwing hate media will hang gas prices around his neck like a flaming tire. Just for political purposes – screw the public. Just like they have done for over 55 years. They care about nothing but their own wealth and will continue destroying America’s economic position in the world. By simply continuing what they have been doing to hold down wages in America.

Saudi Prince MBS and his sovereign wealth fund have funneled literally billions of dollars into the Trump family, between Jared’s investment company and Trump’s golf courses, Trump’s hotels, and the LIV Tour, in addition to giving Trump himself additional hundreds of millions over the years renting and purchasing Trump properties in clear violation of the Emoluments Clause of the US Constitution.

Trump followed that up by organizing a 2019 sale of $8.1 billion in US weaponry in clear violation of US law (such sales require congressional approval). When the Senate voted to block the sale, Trump killed their effort. As Frontline noted in a July 2019 report: “Both chambers have registered their disapproval of the emergency declaration — the Senate voted to block the sale in June. President Trump, however, has pledged to shoot down the measure when it arrives at his desk.”

When Saudi Arabia and Russia tried to screw Biden and the Democrats by cutting oil production — in October leading up to the midterm 2022 elections — President Biden was furious. Russell Baker wrote about it for The New York Times on October 11, 2022: “President Biden vowed on Tuesday to impose ‘consequences’ on Saudi Arabia for teaming up with Russia to cut oil production, signaling a rupture in the relationship between two longtime allies and a reversal of his own effort to cultivate the energy-rich kingdom. “Amid deep anger over last week’s decision by the Saudi-led OPEC Plus, Mr. Biden’s staff announced that he would re-evaluate the entire relationship with Saudi Arabia and expressed openness to retaliatory measures offered by congressional Democrats such as curbing arms sales or permitting legal action against the cartel.

And Fox “News” and rightwing hate media will hang gas prices around Biden’s neck like a flaming tire, despite the actual cause being Donald Trump.

The Saudis are well aware of the power of gas prices over US politics. Retired Saudi Oil Ministry Adviser Ibrahim Al-Muhanna wrote in his book Oil Leaders: An Insider’s Account of Four Decades of Saudi Arabia and OPEC's Global Energy Policy: “During the midterm election in 2018, President Trump pushed for lower oil prices—meaning gasoline—and he succeeded, but he used completely different methods. In the middle of June 2018, the oil price was about $75 and the gasoline price in the United States was more than $3.50 in some states. Trump was worried that the Republican Party might lose the majority in both houses of Congress. …“The OPEC+ group, led by Saudi Arabia and Russia, decided in June 2018 to increase their production by 1.2 MBD. Saudi Arabian production in November rose to more than 11.3 MBD, its highest ever.” For reference, Saudi oil production right now is standing at around 9 million barrels a day, and they just announced a million-barrel-a-day production cut to kick in this summer/fall just in time for the presidential election.
Have you noticed gas prices are rising? Get ready:... (show quote)


Agreed Trump was right it’s better to be energy Independent



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Mar 8, 2024 21:46:24   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
American Vet wrote:
All that blather is meaningless unless the national debt is controlled. Both parties need to come together on it and STOP SPENDING.

You can claim to be anything you want - but you are still not to be trusted.


That would be your opinion. I have proven to be totally trustworthy for over 50 working years including engineering services for every branch of our military including DOD secret clearance projects and DOE L clearance. Never an issue. And nearly all my opinions regarding the economy are based on my observations and experiences. I lived through it all and saw what happened. I know what built the greatest economy in the world, and it was high wages demanded by unions. When the wealthy own too much of the total wealth in the nation, the economy is strangled. Logical, since the more money in circulation, the more is spent, creating more jobs. Simple really. The more the wealthy take from labor, the less available for buying goods goods and services. And I cannot understand how any thinking thing can fail to understand something that simple.

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Mar 8, 2024 21:49:02   #
BIRDMAN
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
That would be your opinion. I have proven to be totally trustworthy for over 50 working years including engineering services for every branch of our military including DOD secret clearance projects and DOE L clearance. Never an issue. And nearly all my opinions regarding the economy are based on my observations and experiences. I lived through it all and saw what happened. I know what built the greatest economy in the world, and it was high wages demanded by unions. When the wealthy own too much of the total wealth in the nation, the economy is strangled. Logical, since the more money in circulation, the more is spent, creating more jobs. Simple really. The more the wealthy take from labor, the less available for buying goods goods and services. And I cannot understand how any thinking thing can fail to understand something that simple.
That would be your opinion. I have proven to be to... (show quote)


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Mar 8, 2024 21:50:01   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
proud republican wrote:
You already denying election if Trump wins.. And you guys accuse us of disinformation! ... Absolutely disgusting..🙄


What is disgusting is prince bonesaw.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/09/saudi-arabia-100-people-executed-as-authorities-continue-relentless-killing-spree/

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Mar 8, 2024 21:51:51   #
Rose42
 


Thank you

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Mar 8, 2024 21:54:59   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
Agreed Trump was right it’s better to be energy Independent


Yes it is right. We produce enough oil to meet our needs and have no real need to import it. But we need to stop exporting our oil. And if the Saudis decide to shut down theil refinery in Port Arthur, Texas, we need to be ready to walk in and take over. I went to college less than 30 miles from that refinery and worked around it in Port Arthur between semesters. It is not the only one there.

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Mar 8, 2024 22:05:56   #
BIRDMAN
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Yes it is right. We produce enough oil to meet our needs and have no real need to import it. But we need to stop exporting our oil. And if the Saudis decide to shut down theil refinery in Port Arthur, Texas, we need to be ready to walk in and take over. I went to college less than 30 miles from that refinery and worked around it in Port Arthur between semesters. It is not the only one there.


The Saudis are our allies. I’m not sure who said it but I think it was Trump drill baby drill.

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Mar 8, 2024 22:14:21   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
The Saudis are our allies. I’m not sure who said it but I think it was Trump drill baby drill.


But they are not above using their oil resources to affect our elections. Neither are Russians.

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