Trump and NATO (Page 12): Then you should be able to post a link to the court case where a jury/judge adjudicated them as liable for "lying". Or, OTOH, perhaps your "facts' don't...

American Vet

facts matter wrote:

Fox news was found liable for lying.

Then you should be able to post a link to the court case where a jury/judge adjudicated them as liable for "lying".

Or, OTOH, perhaps your "facts' don't really matter at all.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

saltwind 78 wrote:

Yesterday Donald Trump spoke at Coastal Carolina not far from where I live. The large majority of my neighbors are MAGA heads and some went to his rally. Trump actually said that he would encourage Putin to invade the countries of NATO, if they didn't pay what they were supposed to for dues for NATO. I believe that would lead to World War Three, just as Hitlers invasion of Poland was the direct cause of World War Two. Of all the crazy thing that this man said, that is the craziest!

The NATO chief Stoltenberg also noted that Trump’s criticism of NATO wasn’t really aimed at the alliance, but at individual countries that have failed to live up to the 2014 pledge to spend 2 percent of their GDP on defense by 2024. “It’s important to listen,” he said.

Apparently listening is not one of your skills. At least the NATO Chief knows how.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

facts matter wrote:

Fox news was found liable for lying. There's no reason why anyone who values truth should ever trust Fox again, but common sense was never a maga strength! trump and fox; How gullible can you be?

Here's a few news stories aggressively covered by CNN that were later revealed to be fabrications. Among the hoaxes perpetuated by the network were the Covington Kid, Jussie Smollett, Russia Collusion, Border Agents whipping illegals, and the NASCAR Noose. CNN’s ratings likewise declined during their consistently critical and overtly biased coverage of former President Trump. Why the bloody hell wasn't the DNC State Controlled Marxist Media Propaganda Bureau's sued for the Russia Collusion Hoax that we now find was crafted by our own intelligence agencies and blasted all over the universe by your lying scabs?

facts matter

padremike wrote:

Being a leftist military strategist can you tell me how many countries our diminishing military industrial complex is supporting and to what end the supply of necessary armament we must produce to meets our own needs are being met?

I'm not a leftist and we support our allies for our own national security. Not supporting Ukraine is giving a gift to Putin and making Russia stronger and the US weaker.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

facts matter wrote:

I'm not a leftist and we support our allies for our own national security. Not supporting Ukraine is giving a gift to Putin and making Russia stronger and the US weaker.

Hmmm…making Russia weaker. Oh like the sanctions Biden assured us would adversely impact Russia’s economy. Let us see how that worked out.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

American Vet wrote:

Your opinion.

Exactly. I was a freshman in high school when Vietnam was going hot and heavy. All we heard is if we don’t stop the North the entire East will fall to communism. Just like now, we have no exit strategy. No peace talks and a very weak idiot for president, whose foreign policy consists of saying don’t.

dwp66

JFlorio wrote:

Since inception. How was I wrong. You just proved my point stupid.

"Fox actually has some lefty’s on their opinion shows. Unlike CNN where a staunch conservative is never on their panels. Why has CNN lost so much viewership while FOX and Newsmax have increased?"

See the words "since inception" there? No, you do not.

Fox has, in fact, been >losing< a lot of viewership, all they had to do was call Arizona for Biden in 2020.

That's what gave Newsmax an immediate boost.

You appear to use a lot of ad hominem remarks, apparently to make up for not having any cogent rebuttals. Go ahead, it's water off a turtle's back. 😊

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

JFlorio wrote:

Read the speech dumba**. I have. As usual what is being referenced was another politically stupid statement by Trump. Of course the spin left out the entire context which by now you'd think Trump would know they're going to do. He should know every controversial thing he says will be taken by the press, twisted, and spun and believed by the idiots too dumb to actuall research.

JFlorio, In what context is this okay?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I know Fox has lost viewers. So has CNN and MSNBC.
Newsmax gained because Fox lost viewers. Not sure it was because of the Arizona call. Might because they have gone further left since the liberals took over the running of Fox. Not sure what your point is. I could care less if Fox folded.

dwp66 wrote:

"Fox actually has some lefty’s on their opini... (show quote)

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

saltwind 78 wrote:

JFlorio, In what context is this okay?

I’m not defending Trumps stupid statements. I’ve listened to him enough to know this is aimed at NATO partners not paying there agreed upon amount. I sincerely doubt he’d invite Russia to attack anyone. Just a typical dumbass statement from him.

dwp66

JFlorio wrote:

I know Fox has lost viewers. So has CNN and MSNBC.
Newsmax gained because Fox lost viewers. Not sure it was because of the Arizona call. Might because they have gone further left since the liberals took over the running of Fox. Not sure what your point is. I could care less if Fox folded.

My point is that you often make statements with no basis in fact, just like you did here.

Perhaps you might want to do a bit of "research" yourself before you post shit and then tell other people they are dumbasses, which you do all the time if the poster is a lib.

dwp66

JFlorio wrote:

I’m not defending Trumps stupid statements. I’ve listened to him enough to know this is aimed at NATO partners not paying there agreed upon amount. I sincerely doubt he’d invite Russia to attack anyone. Just a typical dumbass statement from him.

And yet... you defend the man all the time - saying only that he makes "dumb" statements, 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕'𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒍, as if they somehow don't reflect on his total ignorance on a wide range of important shit. He's not a "stable genius", Florio, he's a...how do you often put it...oh, yeah, a "dumbass".

As if that excuses his total ignorance on SO many subjects. Put on your red hat and come out of the closet. You'd vote for this guy tomorrow if you could.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

dwp66 wrote:

And yet... you defend the man all the time - saying only that he makes "dumb" statements, 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕'𝒔 𝒂𝒍𝒍, as if they somehow don't reflect on his total ignorance on a wide range of important shit. He's not a "stable genius", Florio, he's a...how do you often put it...oh, yeah, a "dumbass".

As if that excuses his total ignorance on SO many subjects. Put on your red hat and come out of the closet. You'd vote for this guy tomorrow if you could.

Biden's years of ignorance
BIDEN’S ‘DAY AFTER’ PLAN FOR GAZA REFLECTS IGNORANCE AND INCOMPETENCE
In its haste to divert attention away from its complicity in what is now a legal charge against Israel of genocide in Gaza, the United States administration under Joe Biden is working hard to promote its plan for the so-called “day after.” That is the day when Israel’s work in Gaza is finally done, either because there is finally some global pressure to make it stop, or it achieves its genocidal goals.

As with virtually all of Biden’s foreign policy from the start of his administration, especially in the Middle East, the ideas generated by this “day after” thinking are rooted in American hubris and ignorance of the people they are dealing with, and are, therefore, doomed to failure.
https://therealnews.com/bidens-day-after-plan-for-gaza-reflects-ignorance-and-incompetence

The willful ignorance of this crisis is even making members of Biden’s own party nervous.
https://twitter.com/GrothmanforWI/status/1707868835288662261

Biden’s ignorance and our lack of public diplomacy
https://emrealkin.com/en/bidens-ignorance-and-our-lack-of-public-diplomacy/

Biden’s Bottomless Ignorance on Guns
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20221031/bidens-bottomless-ignorance-on-guns

Bobby Rush rips Biden as ‘woefully ignorant’
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/21/bobby-rush-biden-ignorant-1376557

Biden’s remarks based on ‘pure ignorance’: Turkey
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/biden-s-remarks-based-on-pure-ignorance-turkey/1943465