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Feb 6, 2024 00:41:56   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Proudconservative wrote:
Not only all of what you said but also our kids are being pulled from there schools so the illegals have a place to go

That's a lie. Our kids are not being pulled from school so that immigrants have a place to go.

Proudconservative wrote:

and how about all the illegals being set up in hotels for free, being served free breakfasts, lunch and suppers while our homeless of which many are vets who fought for this country are having to leave on the street begging for food, yeah that's effing fair.

If hotels or churches want to help them it's their right. They also help homeless Americans. Neither group is entirely saved or entirely dismissed. BTW, a lot of immigrants that Trump wanted to deport were also vets who fought for this country.

Proudconservative wrote:

I'm so sick of these effing leftist on here all they do instead of seeing things for what they are they always turn it into a Trump thing.

I've been discussing immigration long before Trump came along.

Proudconservative wrote:

All I know is thank God there not one of my parents, always basing what's right or wrong by being a Democrat.. no wonder their so stupid and have no common sense.

You're not making ANY sense.

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Feb 6, 2024 00:46:38   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
pescado rojo wrote:
You must have. He just asked about getting you are head out of you are ass. You know, that's almost as good as one Liberal telling a Conservative on this forum that he had no "crebity." You should feel special, arch. Do you realize how long this liberal leg humper had to commune with his inner eggplant to come up with that one?


LOL - I always love how you yokles yabber... It's like you can chew up a whole heap a words without saying much anything.

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Feb 6, 2024 08:34:21   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
straightUp wrote:
You're not making ANY sense.


Shocking new footage has revealed hundreds of asylum seekers sleeping on the floor of a Brooklyn school auditorium - after kids were kicked out of their classrooms so that 2,000 migrants could move in.
The students of James Madison High School in Brooklyn were forced to learn from home today after a last-minute decision to allow the migrants - from the southern border - to sleep inside the school because of harsh weather conditions outside.
The decision allowed 2,000 migrants to move from their shelter to the school, over fears the storm plaguing New York City on Tuesday night would flood their tents.
Clips obtained by DailyMail.com show the groups of migrants, young and old, taking up space in the large room in the school, surrounded by their belongings.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12948325/NYC-migrant-school-hotel-footage.html



Outraged parents also said that they aren't going to send their children back to school tomorrow because they are worried about how hygienic the situation is, as many of those camping out at the school were previously homeless.

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Feb 6, 2024 08:38:08   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
straightUp wrote:
LOL - I always love how you yokles yabber... It's like you can chew up a whole heap a words without saying much anything.

You ought to know all about that, you do it constantly... and with extreme hubris too.

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Feb 6, 2024 09:44:06   #
Proudconservative
 
straightUp wrote:
So, it's interesting because you're actually blaming Trump here. You're explaining that the difference between Trump and Biden on the border is that there were fewer people trying to cross when Trump was in charge. But the reason why there are so many more trying to cross today is largely because of the sanctions Trump put on Venezuela AND because of the backlog created by Trump's Stay in Mexico policy.


Good try, the reason there's more is because of this dimwit president we have who is allowing it.

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Feb 6, 2024 14:11:42   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
straightUp wrote:
Milosa has been asking some interesting questions about the durability of democracy in our current political climate but I wanted to cut to the chase and state what I personally think the root of the problem is.

People.

Democracy is government by the people, so it makes sense to start with the people instead of blaming politicians for everything. You see, in a democracy politicians are mere representatives. They are supposed to do what the people want them to do unless there is a conflict with the constitution. That covers Congress as per Article I of the U.S. Constitution.

The Administration (Article II) is supposed to do what Congress tells it to do. Every executive order, every regulation, every military command should comply with directives from Congress.

So that is the political chain of command... The president commands the administration and the military, but he answers to Congress and Congress answers to The People. This is according to the constitution bound to the republic we call the United States of America.

The PROBLEM arises from the "culture of winning" that has saturated the last two generations of Americans. From the handing out of "participation awards" to the commercial tenant that the "customer is always right" we have developed into a culture that is utterly incapable of dealing with defeat, or loss... or... compromise.

Unfortunately, compromise is what makes democracy work. Democracy is clearly for people who are mature enough to know that you can't ALWAYS get what you want. I feel this culture of always wining and always getting what you want as if it's a civil right was accelerated when Libertarians started taking Ayn Rand's word that selfishness drives a better economy. Now selfishness is a redeeming quality, but it's corrosive to democracy.

Everything else stems from there.

So even if a politician is doing his job representing the will of the majority in his district, someone who isn't getting his way will call him an evil, corrupt politician and that goes into the media machine to influence those whop don't even know what the politician is doing.

In summary, democracy... the ONLY system that puts the people in charge, is eroding in America because the American people in have evolved into selfish little bitches.
Milosa has been asking some interesting questions ... (show quote)


straight, I don't think that politicians are mere representatives of the people that voted for them. The large majority of Americans are pro choice. The large majority of Americans would like to see assault type rifles outlawed, along with all sales of firearms sales outlawed for unstable people and/or convicted felons.
Many of our legislators are puppets of corporations.

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