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Dec 24, 2023 13:36:35   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
This was a Trudeau campaign promise in his first election. He reneged on it.

When I challenged the Liberal local candidate during next election campaign he the told me that it would would give to much power to a fringe faction because of our system of minority governments and non confidence votes that result in snap elections. BS.

The major city I used to live in uses it. Our municipal elections are not party affiliated, officially.

https://www.rawstory.com/ranked-choice-voting-2666797337/

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Dec 24, 2023 13:43:44   #
American Vet
 
RascalRiley wrote:
This was a Trudeau campaign promise in his first election. He reneged on it.

When I challenged the Liberal local candidate during next election campaign he the told me that it would would give to much power to a fringe faction because of our system of minority governments and non confidence votes that result in snap elections. BS.

The major city I used to live in uses it. Our municipal elections are not party affiliated, officially.

https://www.rawstory.com/ranked-choice-voting-2666797337/
This was a Trudeau campaign promise in his first e... (show quote)


Not a good idea.

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/ranked-choice-voting-bad-choice

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3711206-the-flaw-in-ranked-choice-voting-rewarding-extremists/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ranked-choice-voting-is-bad-for-everyone-11625674248

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Dec 24, 2023 14:58:27   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
RascalRiley wrote:
This was a Trudeau campaign promise in his first election. He reneged on it.

When I challenged the Liberal local candidate during next election campaign he the told me that it would would give to much power to a fringe faction because of our system of minority governments and non confidence votes that result in snap elections. BS.

The major city I used to live in uses it. Our municipal elections are not party affiliated, officially.

https://www.rawstory.com/ranked-choice-voting-2666797337/
This was a Trudeau campaign promise in his first e... (show quote)


RascalReally?, Ranked Choice Voting is just another way that Democrats have to commit vote fraud. It goes right along with stuffing the ballot box at 2am and programming ballot tabulaters to add votes to Democrat candidates and take them away from Republican candidates.

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Dec 24, 2023 17:32:44   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
RascalReally?, Ranked Choice Voting is just another way that Democrats have to commit vote fraud. It goes right along with stuffing the ballot box at 2am and programming ballot tabulaters to add votes to Democrat candidates and take them away from Republican candidates.

Independents and those do not adhere to the party line down ballot choices might favour might Ranked Choice Voting.

It is better representation of the general population.

It offers less control for party machinery.

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Dec 24, 2023 18:44:06   #
American Vet
 
RascalRiley wrote:


It is better representation of the general population.

It offers less control for party machinery.


Wrong on both counts. Read the articles so you won’t look so stupid.

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Dec 24, 2023 18:57:49   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
American Vet wrote:
It is better representation of the general population.

It offers less control for party machinery.


Wrong on both counts. Read the articles so you won’t look so stupid.

That is your opinion and it is one opinion, written with negative spin. It is not a stupid idea.

The idea would not have been around for so long if the basic idea did not have some merit.

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Dec 24, 2023 19:02:45   #
American Vet
 
RascalRiley wrote:
That is your opinion and it is one opinion, written with negative spin. It is not a stupid idea.

The idea would not have been around for so long if the basic idea did not have some merit.


BS. It is a terribly stupid idea. The idea of murder has been around a long time -so do you think it ‘has merit’?

Maybe Santa will bring you some common sense and intelligence.

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Dec 24, 2023 19:13:01   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
American Vet wrote:
BS. It is a terribly stupid idea. The idea of murder has been around a long time -so do you think it ‘has merit’?

Maybe Santa will bring you some common sense and intelligence.

Well I know where you stand on the scale of intelligent answers and civil discourse.

You never fail to disappoint me.

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Dec 24, 2023 19:32:07   #
American Vet
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Well I know where you stand on the scale of intelligent answers and civil discourse.

You never fail to disappoint me.


Of course you just know things. Part of your psychiatric problem.

Seek professional help.

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Dec 24, 2023 19:38:12   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
American Vet wrote:
Of course you just know things. Part of your psychiatric problem.

Seek professional help.

Says he who can not fathom an exchange of ideas.
Parrot comes to mind.

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Dec 25, 2023 00:15:36   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Frankly, ranked choice is much better then what we have. I read these opinion pieces and they don't know what the hell they are talking about. It works. Yes, we might not have what a majority want. But what the majority wants might really be hated by a minority. And the minority might be just as hated as the majority. But they both could live a lot better with number two. The country or district might all function a lot better with number two that a real super majority at least don't hate. As we have it now, both sides hate each other and their ideas and opinions so much that nothing gets done to the satisfaction of the people. Then throw in the equivalent of none of the above or below in the case of ranked choice and we have real choices. Throw the bastards out and elect a candidate that might not be first choice of 51%, but someone who was a second choice or third choice enough to be a consensus candidate we can live with and work with. Think biden and Trump. Would you biden voters rather have a JFK Jr then Trump. Or would you Trump voters rather have JFK Jr rather then biden. A second place candidate would be a hell of a lot better then either extreme to most people.

Logically Right

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Dec 25, 2023 00:16:49   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Frankly, ranked choice is much better then what we have. I read these opinion pieces and they don't know what the hell they are talking about. It works. Yes, we might not have what a majority want. But what the majority wants might really be hated by a minority. And the minority might be just as hated as the majority. But they both could live a lot better with number two. The country or district might all function a lot better with number two that a real super majority at least don't hate. As we have it now, both sides hate each other and their ideas and opinions so much that nothing gets done to the satisfaction of the people. Then throw in the equivalent of none of the above or below in the case of ranked choice and we have real choices. Throw the bastards out and elect a candidate that might not be first choice of 51%, but someone who was a second choice or third choice enough to be a consensus candidate we can live with and work with. Think biden and Trump. Would you biden voters rather have a JFK Jr then Trump. Or would you Trump voters rather have JFK Jr rather then biden. A second place candidate would be a hell of a lot better then either extreme to most people.

Logically Right

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Dec 25, 2023 05:26:24   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Frankly, ranked choice is much better then what we have. I read these opinion pieces and they don't know what the hell they are talking about. It works. Yes, we might not have what a majority want. But what the majority wants might really be hated by a minority. And the minority might be just as hated as the majority. But they both could live a lot better with number two. The country or district might all function a lot better with number two that a real super majority at least don't hate. As we have it now, both sides hate each other and their ideas and opinions so much that nothing gets done to the satisfaction of the people. Then throw in the equivalent of none of the above or below in the case of ranked choice and we have real choices. Throw the bastards out and elect a candidate that might not be first choice of 51%, but someone who was a second choice or third choice enough to be a consensus candidate we can live with and work with. Think biden and Trump. Would you biden voters rather have a JFK Jr then Trump. Or would you Trump voters rather have JFK Jr rather then biden. A second place candidate would be a hell of a lot better then either extreme to most people.

Logically Right
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Dec 25, 2023 14:34:41   #
Justice101
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Frankly, ranked choice is much better then what we have. I read these opinion pieces and they don't know what the hell they are talking about. It works. Yes, we might not have what a majority want. But what the majority wants might really be hated by a minority. And the minority might be just as hated as the majority. But they both could live a lot better with number two. The country or district might all function a lot better with number two that a real super majority at least don't hate. As we have it now, both sides hate each other and their ideas and opinions so much that nothing gets done to the satisfaction of the people. Then throw in the equivalent of none of the above or below in the case of ranked choice and we have real choices. Throw the bastards out and elect a candidate that might not be first choice of 51%, but someone who was a second choice or third choice enough to be a consensus candidate we can live with and work with. Think biden and Trump. Would you biden voters rather have a JFK Jr then Trump. Or would you Trump voters rather have JFK Jr rather then biden. A second place candidate would be a hell of a lot better then either extreme to most people.

Logically Right
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Alaska's rank choice voting in 2022 gave us RINO Lisa Murkowski again. Are you ok with that result?

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Dec 25, 2023 14:52:04   #
Knightlady
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Frankly, ranked choice is much better then what we have. I read these opinion pieces and they don't know what the hell they are talking about. It works. Yes, we might not have what a majority want. But what the majority wants might really be hated by a minority. And the minority might be just as hated as the majority. But they both could live a lot better with number two. The country or district might all function a lot better with number two that a real super majority at least don't hate. As we have it now, both sides hate each other and their ideas and opinions so much that nothing gets done to the satisfaction of the people. Then throw in the equivalent of none of the above or below in the case of ranked choice and we have real choices. Throw the bastards out and elect a candidate that might not be first choice of 51%, but someone who was a second choice or third choice enough to be a consensus candidate we can live with and work with. Think biden and Trump. Would you biden voters rather have a JFK Jr then Trump. Or would you Trump voters rather have JFK Jr rather then biden. A second place candidate would be a hell of a lot better then either extreme to most people.

Logically Right
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If I had just that choice, I would probably vote RFK Jr. against Biden. From what I've seen on the news, he has some good ideas. I'd have to read up on him. I haven't because I doubt he has a chance. Perhaps, I should do more reading up, huh?

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