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Jan 6, 2015 21:14:20   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
I have commented on this subject once before and would like thoughts as well as any others here on OPP. This my opinion. This traitor in chief has not been vetted anywhere close to preceding presidents. This I think is well known. His birth certificate ( which is a fraud in my opinion after my own research), ID,s he has used through out his life, different names on documents that's been provided by his surrogates, his college information which has been sealed ( at great expense), his affinity for the black panthers, his long association with rev wright, ayers, dorn, his associations with the communist party while in college and his affection for the Muslim brotherhood and a number of other progressive movements. I believe that if the American people new all this up front he would never have been elected. My question and comment on this is didn't the CIA and the FBI know all this? If the agencies new all this why would they have cleared him to run for public office instead of investigations for the good of the country? It's also extremely hard for me to believe that all our elected representatives don't know all this! Really? Now I don't consider myself a conspiracy nut, but it looks to me like all this was planned being either the destruction of the U.S. or a pre-planned civil war of ideologies which as you can gather would be bloody. Your thoughts please.

Semper Fi to the truth and the courage to tell it

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Jan 6, 2015 21:24:02   #
rumitoid
 
2bltap wrote:
I have commented on this subject once before and would like thoughts as well as any others here on OPP. This my opinion. This traitor in chief has not been vetted anywhere close to preceding presidents. This I think is well known. His birth certificate ( which is a fraud in my opinion after my own research), ID,s he has used through out his life, different names on documents that's been provided by his surrogates, his college information which has been sealed ( at great expense), his affinity for the black panthers, his long association with rev wright, ayers, dorn, his associations with the communist party while in college and his affection for the Muslim brotherhood and a number of other progressive movements. I believe that if the American people new all this up front he would never have been elected. My question and comment on this is didn't the CIA and the FBI know all this? If the agencies new all this why would they have cleared him to run for public office instead of investigations for the good of the country? It's also extremely hard for me to believe that all our elected representatives don't know all this! Really? Now I don't consider myself a conspiracy nut, but it looks to me like all this was planned being either the destruction of the U.S. or a pre-planned civil war of ideologies which as you can gather would be bloody. Your thoughts please.

Semper Fi to the truth and the courage to tell it
I have commented on this subject once before and w... (show quote)


A black man running for the highest office against a highly conservative Republican in incumbent, with a solid good old's boy club network and the NSA, CIA, and FBI on high alert for threats, Obama somehow squirmed past all this?

Such conspiracy theories as you weave are tragic paranoia, perhaps an injury in combat.

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Jan 6, 2015 21:24:33   #
maryla
 
NO and he's going to town on it...He is a foreigner who had no right to the prestigious office he hold. He's duping America and will go down in history as the one who DESTROYED all that America has ever been or stood for.

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Jan 6, 2015 21:27:37   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
2bltap wrote:
I have commented on this subject once before and would like thoughts as well as any others here on OPP. This my opinion. This traitor in chief has not been vetted anywhere close to preceding presidents. This I think is well known. His birth certificate ( which is a fraud in my opinion after my own research), ID,s he has used through out his life, different names on documents that's been provided by his surrogates, his college information which has been sealed ( at great expense), his affinity for the black panthers, his long association with rev wright, ayers, dorn, his associations with the communist party while in college and his affection for the Muslim brotherhood and a number of other progressive movements. I believe that if the American people new all this up front he would never have been elected. My question and comment on this is didn't the CIA and the FBI know all this? If the agencies new all this why would they have cleared him to run for public office instead of investigations for the good of the country? It's also extremely hard for me to believe that all our elected representatives don't know all this! Really? Now I don't consider myself a conspiracy nut, but it looks to me like all this was planned being either the destruction of the U.S. or a pre-planned civil war of ideologies which as you can gather would be bloody. Your thoughts please.

Semper Fi to the truth and the courage to tell it
I have commented on this subject once before and w... (show quote)




Just as a guess, you haven't been doing very much reading on this clown on the internet. He was NEVER vetted by anyone. They know he was not a natural born citizen and Nancy proved it by the form she submitted when she filed in Calif. She didn't put down that he was a natural born citizen like she was supposed to, but just put down that he is the Democrats candidate. They knew then and they know now that he is NOT qualified to be President, but he is the one they wanted and he is the one they got. His first election was bad enough, but he stole the second one with voter fraud and should be in jail, not the WH.

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Jan 6, 2015 21:31:22   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
A black man running for the highest office against a highly conservative Republican in incumbent, with a solid good old's boy club network and the NSA, CIA, and FBI on high alert for threats, Obama somehow squirmed past all this?

Such conspiracy theories as you weave are tragic paranoia, perhaps an injury in combat.




He ran against an incumbent????? You IDIOT. Bush was out. He served his 8 years. THERE WAS NO INCUMBENT to run against. Get off your high horse and get your head our of your butt and get a life.... IDIOT!!!!

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Jan 6, 2015 21:36:44   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
rumitoid wrote:
A black man running for the highest office against a highly conservative Republican in incumbent, with a solid good old's boy club network and the NSA, CIA, and FBI on high alert for threats, Obama somehow squirmed past all this?

Such conspiracy theories as you weave are tragic paranoia, perhaps an injury in combat.


just in case you missed it obozo wasn't running against Reagan who was the last conservative president we had so who was the "highly conservative " incumbent you refer to

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Jan 6, 2015 21:44:16   #
rumitoid
 
MrEd wrote:
Just as a guess, you haven't been doing very much reading on this clown on the internet. He was NEVER vetted by anyone. They know he was not a natural born citizen and Nancy proved it by the form she submitted when she filed in Calif. She didn't put down that he was a natural born citizen like she was supposed to, but just put down that he is the Democrats candidate. They knew then and they know now that he is NOT qualified to be President, but he is the one they wanted and he is the one they got. His first election was bad enough, but he stole the second one with voter fraud and should be in jail, not the WH.
Just as a guess, you haven't been doing very much ... (show quote)


More Right Wing balderdash from a conspiracy blog. Research!

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Jan 6, 2015 21:53:04   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
More Right Wing balderdash from a conspiracy blog. Research!




You should try it some time. You may learn something, but I doubt it................

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Jan 6, 2015 21:53:34   #
moldyoldy
 
http://www.blogster.com/winning/the-vetting-of-american-presidents-and-presidential-candidatesa-uniquely-american-process

The Vetting of American Presidents and Presidential Candidates....a uniquely American process!!!

Controversial Content


Added: Monday, March 12th 2012 at 8:36pm by winning

Category: News & Issues

Related Tags: conservative politics, republican party, democratic party, liberal politics, tea party



5 / 1 rating





Over the last 3 decades we have gone through something in american politics that we refer to as "vetting" of our Presidents and Presidential Candidates. It is a process that at times has been a comedics as it has been serious.

Both sides, the left and the right have spend time, talent and treasure attempting to highlight the faults of the other side, while the media who should be the unbias party in this effect has from time to time stuff their foot in their mouths as they have tried to sway the public one way or the other. But before we get to those very interesting stories, lets first get a definition of "Vetting":

Vetting is a process of examination and evaluation, generally referring to performing a background check on someone before offering him or her employment, conferring an award, etc. In addition, in intelligence gathering, assets are vetted to determine their usefulness.



Now that is a fairly simple explanation of the process, but in the American Political Process this concept has taken on a completely different meaning. We now use the vetting process as a weapon.....its true purpose is to undermine and undercut an opponent......especially if the vetting is done by the media.

Vetting is a process that by its own definition should be done by an employer or an awarder....whereby someones background is checked to ensure he or she is either qualified or at the minimum not an embarrassment. In the vetting process the operative word is "Truth".....as the vetter your goal should be to seek the truth.

Back in the 70's Gary Hart was a prominent Democratic Politician who actually was considered a front runner for his parties nomination. There was one problem.....Hart was reported to have had a history with the women. He ofcourse denied it and even challenged the media to prove he was a womanizer by offering to allow them to follow him around. Well guess what, they took him up on it....followed him, caught him womanizing and the Modern day Political Vetting process was born.....find the dirt and make it stick.

Over the next 30 years very few Presidential candidates escaped the meat axe that is the American Pollitical Vetting system. Edward Kennedy felt the sting of the vet when he ran for his parties nomination and found himself over and over again having to relive the accidental death of an aide that happened to riding in his car in his early career. To say it was fair game as a topic is to go to the depths of the vetting process. Did it effect his chances for election...you bet it did!!

Then there was the sudden need to reharsh the role Ronald Reagan had played during the McCarthy Era and the attacks on Hollywood. I remember the left trying to dig up all sorts of stuff implying that Reagan was a "Snitch" for McCarthy and had turned on his fellow actors in order to save his own skin.....it of course was false and never caught on. Bias Political Vetting brought this stuff up....proper vetting put it to rest!

Then there was the "Skull and Crossbones" stuff about GHW Bush...Bush 41.....you remember how those on the left and the extreme right tried to say that he was part of some secret organization who was part of the "New World Order" and that he was going to sell America out. Bias political "vetting" brought this stuff up.....proper vetting put it to rest!

Then there was "Slick Willie" Clinton. You remember the stories.....he was a radical communist mole who had been seen in Moscow as a college student.....a real closet communist. Bias political "vetting" brought this stuff up...proper vetting put it to rest, but Clinton did something a little different. He actually attacked the "Vetters"....that's right, if you attempted to "Vet" the Clintons...the Clinton machine made you the subject of their own Political "Vetting" process.....as a result the public received conflinting reports on matters of critical personal importance and Bill Clinton slipped by. Clintons role as a womanizer was well known and established before he came on the National scene...but his reverse "vetting" process definitely clouded the field.

When GW Bush came into play "vetting" had taken on a life of its own. Those of us who supported John McCain in 2000 remember well the Bombshell dropped on John in South Carolina that required him to be "revetted" in order to prove that he did not have a Black Child in some out of wedlock affair!! By the time the truth got out....it was too late the damage had been done and GW was on the way to being President.

But GW had his own problems....if you remember the left spent an awful lot of time trying to claim that he was some kind of drunken rich kid who received special favors because of who his father was. Remember how bias political vetting brought this stuff up.....and proper vetting put it and the career of Dan Rather to rest!!

And then we had Hilliary Clinton and Barck Obama!! Remember how Hilliary lied about how she had landed under fire in Serbia and conducted important foreign policy discussions? Well proper vetting put that myth to rest....but because the same Clinton Machine that had clouded the field for her husband was now working for her....the public and the media seemed to give her a pass.....why, because the Clintons throw the media "vetting" machine something better.....Barrack Obama!!

That's right......it was Hilliary Clinton who threw the bias political "vetting" machine information on Barrack Obama....let's just take a look at some of those tic bits:

This was the article that brought into question whether or not Obama was a Law Professor...remember?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/28/university-of-chicago-oba_n_93896.html

Remeber this jewel about Obama being a Muslim?

http://www.bestandworst.com/v/111349.htm

Remember this one about Religion and Guns?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1014942/Hillary-Clinton-hits-Barack-Obamas-God-guns-gaffe.html

Remember her stand on Jeremiah Wright?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/25/clinton-wright-would-not-_n_93318.html?

And then there was the release of Michelle Thesis and Obamas Law Course Syllabus...remember?

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/2008OBAMA_LAW/Obama_CoursePk.pdf

This was that Clinton reverse "Vetting" Machine at its best; yet in the end.....it did no good, possibly because either there was nothing there.....or maybe the people have had enough? When the left started going after Sarah Palin and by their own admission the McCain team had not done a very good job of inside vetting.....maybe just maybe folks just said enough!!!!

As we enter this new political season.....I have noticed a trend.....the left hasn't started that habit of bias political "vetting".....maybe because it it early or because we know all the candidates. The right should maybe follow the same trend....there is nothing new out there on Obama.....trust me if there was something out there....the Clintons would have found it!!

Let's beat this guy with policies.....to go the bias 'vetting" route is to give him another 4 years....learn from the Clintons!!

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Jan 6, 2015 21:56:57   #
rumitoid
 
MrEd wrote:
He ran against an incumbent????? You IDIOT. Bush was out. He served his 8 years. THERE WAS NO INCUMBENT to run against. Get off your high horse and get your head our of your butt and get a life.... IDIOT!!!!


Lol, an incumbent party that had power and control. One looking to maintain that power and control. Try to look deeper.

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Jan 6, 2015 22:06:08   #
MrEd Loc: Georgia
 
moldyoldy wrote:
http://www.blogster.com/winning/the-vetting-of-american-presidents-and-presidential-candidatesa-uniquely-american-process

The Vetting of American Presidents and Presidential Candidates....a uniquely American process!!!

Controversial Content


Added: Monday, March 12th 2012 at 8:36pm by winning

Category: News & Issues

Related Tags: conservative politics, republican party, democratic party, liberal politics, tea party



5 / 1 rating





Over the last 3 decades we have gone through something in american politics that we refer to as "vetting" of our Presidents and Presidential Candidates. It is a process that at times has been a comedics as it has been serious.

Both sides, the left and the right have spend time, talent and treasure attempting to highlight the faults of the other side, while the media who should be the unbias party in this effect has from time to time stuff their foot in their mouths as they have tried to sway the public one way or the other. But before we get to those very interesting stories, lets first get a definition of "Vetting":

Vetting is a process of examination and evaluation, generally referring to performing a background check on someone before offering him or her employment, conferring an award, etc. In addition, in intelligence gathering, assets are vetted to determine their usefulness.



Now that is a fairly simple explanation of the process, but in the American Political Process this concept has taken on a completely different meaning. We now use the vetting process as a weapon.....its true purpose is to undermine and undercut an opponent......especially if the vetting is done by the media.

Vetting is a process that by its own definition should be done by an employer or an awarder....whereby someones background is checked to ensure he or she is either qualified or at the minimum not an embarrassment. In the vetting process the operative word is "Truth".....as the vetter your goal should be to seek the truth.

Back in the 70's Gary Hart was a prominent Democratic Politician who actually was considered a front runner for his parties nomination. There was one problem.....Hart was reported to have had a history with the women. He ofcourse denied it and even challenged the media to prove he was a womanizer by offering to allow them to follow him around. Well guess what, they took him up on it....followed him, caught him womanizing and the Modern day Political Vetting process was born.....find the dirt and make it stick.

Over the next 30 years very few Presidential candidates escaped the meat axe that is the American Pollitical Vetting system. Edward Kennedy felt the sting of the vet when he ran for his parties nomination and found himself over and over again having to relive the accidental death of an aide that happened to riding in his car in his early career. To say it was fair game as a topic is to go to the depths of the vetting process. Did it effect his chances for election...you bet it did!!

Then there was the sudden need to reharsh the role Ronald Reagan had played during the McCarthy Era and the attacks on Hollywood. I remember the left trying to dig up all sorts of stuff implying that Reagan was a "Snitch" for McCarthy and had turned on his fellow actors in order to save his own skin.....it of course was false and never caught on. Bias Political Vetting brought this stuff up....proper vetting put it to rest!

Then there was the "Skull and Crossbones" stuff about GHW Bush...Bush 41.....you remember how those on the left and the extreme right tried to say that he was part of some secret organization who was part of the "New World Order" and that he was going to sell America out. Bias political "vetting" brought this stuff up.....proper vetting put it to rest!

Then there was "Slick Willie" Clinton. You remember the stories.....he was a radical communist mole who had been seen in Moscow as a college student.....a real closet communist. Bias political "vetting" brought this stuff up...proper vetting put it to rest, but Clinton did something a little different. He actually attacked the "Vetters"....that's right, if you attempted to "Vet" the Clintons...the Clinton machine made you the subject of their own Political "Vetting" process.....as a result the public received conflinting reports on matters of critical personal importance and Bill Clinton slipped by. Clintons role as a womanizer was well known and established before he came on the National scene...but his reverse "vetting" process definitely clouded the field.

When GW Bush came into play "vetting" had taken on a life of its own. Those of us who supported John McCain in 2000 remember well the Bombshell dropped on John in South Carolina that required him to be "revetted" in order to prove that he did not have a Black Child in some out of wedlock affair!! By the time the truth got out....it was too late the damage had been done and GW was on the way to being President.

But GW had his own problems....if you remember the left spent an awful lot of time trying to claim that he was some kind of drunken rich kid who received special favors because of who his father was. Remember how bias political vetting brought this stuff up.....and proper vetting put it and the career of Dan Rather to rest!!

And then we had Hilliary Clinton and Barck Obama!! Remember how Hilliary lied about how she had landed under fire in Serbia and conducted important foreign policy discussions? Well proper vetting put that myth to rest....but because the same Clinton Machine that had clouded the field for her husband was now working for her....the public and the media seemed to give her a pass.....why, because the Clintons throw the media "vetting" machine something better.....Barrack Obama!!

That's right......it was Hilliary Clinton who threw the bias political "vetting" machine information on Barrack Obama....let's just take a look at some of those tic bits:

This was the article that brought into question whether or not Obama was a Law Professor...remember?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/28/university-of-chicago-oba_n_93896.html

Remeber this jewel about Obama being a Muslim?

http://www.bestandworst.com/v/111349.htm

Remember this one about Religion and Guns?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1014942/Hillary-Clinton-hits-Barack-Obamas-God-guns-gaffe.html

Remember her stand on Jeremiah Wright?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/25/clinton-wright-would-not-_n_93318.html?

And then there was the release of Michelle Thesis and Obamas Law Course Syllabus...remember?

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/2008OBAMA_LAW/Obama_CoursePk.pdf

This was that Clinton reverse "Vetting" Machine at its best; yet in the end.....it did no good, possibly because either there was nothing there.....or maybe the people have had enough? When the left started going after Sarah Palin and by their own admission the McCain team had not done a very good job of inside vetting.....maybe just maybe folks just said enough!!!!

As we enter this new political season.....I have noticed a trend.....the left hasn't started that habit of bias political "vetting".....maybe because it it early or because we know all the candidates. The right should maybe follow the same trend....there is nothing new out there on Obama.....trust me if there was something out there....the Clintons would have found it!!

Let's beat this guy with policies.....to go the bias 'vetting" route is to give him another 4 years....learn from the Clintons!!
http://www.blogster.com/winning/the-vetting-of-ame... (show quote)




If Obama gets elected to ANOTHER 4 years, there will be one hell of a Civil War.......................... Last time I checked, you could only have 2 terms as President.......... Did he change that too???? ;)

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Jan 6, 2015 22:07:27   #
rumitoid
 
MrEd wrote:
If Obama gets elected to ANOTHER 4 years, there will be one hell of a Civil War.......................... Last time I checked, you could only have 2 terms as President.......... Did he change that too???? ;)


What time is it? Where am I?

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Jan 6, 2015 22:40:40   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
It's amazing to me that every person who wants to join the military is vetted to some degree or another just to be allowed to join. They check criminal records, back ground checks to some degree especially if one is going into a job requiring a clearance as the possibility of being able to read, interpret, act upon and listen to classified information. I know this because of my own experience involving this subject. As a result I received higher than normal clearances. He'll, I was only going into the grunts and later on many years later becoming a Contracting Officer as a GySgt. If I had the type of back ground resume as this POTUS I wouldn't have been able to join in the first place and this guy is able to become president? What the hell is that? In any event, thank you all who responded with logic. I'm still not convinced that perhaps a major fraud has not been perpetrated against the American people. What can be done about it now I don't know. All I know or at least believe is that if something was found out about this fraud at this point, caught with his pants down so to speak every thing he has signed, ordered what have you would be invalidated. We can only hope.

Semper Fi

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Jan 6, 2015 22:43:51   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
rumitoid wrote:
A black man running for the highest office against a highly conservative Republican in incumbent, with a solid good old's boy club network and the NSA, CIA, and FBI on high alert for threats, Obama somehow squirmed past all this?

Such conspiracy theories as you weave are tragic paranoia, perhaps an injury in combat.


Good bye rumitoid. Enjoy your delirium.

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Jan 6, 2015 22:46:15   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
MrEd wrote:
Just as a guess, you haven't been doing very much reading on this clown on the internet. He was NEVER vetted by anyone. They know he was not a natural born citizen and Nancy proved it by the form she submitted when she filed in Calif. She didn't put down that he was a natural born citizen like she was supposed to, but just put down that he is the Democrats candidate. They knew then and they know now that he is NOT qualified to be President, but he is the one they wanted and he is the one they got. His first election was bad enough, but he stole the second one with voter fraud and should be in jail, not the WH.
Just as a guess, you haven't been doing very much ... (show quote)


MrEd- Your right, I haven't done nearly enough research on the slug in chief. Thank you for the response.

Semper Fi

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