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I don't get it, Israel and Hamas
Nov 3, 2023 19:37:48   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
On October 7, 2023, Hamas killed many Jews and kidnapped 207 others. (I attached a file that has all the victims, names and pictures)

Now, Israel is on a revenge mission against Hamas. It is well with in Israel's right to seek out the murderers and barbarians who committed an act, equal to what Hitler did during World War II.

But what I don't understand, and till this day, I still don't understand it, is the brutal murder and kidnapping of the Jews.

Jesus Christ is a direct descendant of Adam, the first man.

"Jesus Christ was the son of Joseph, the son of Heli, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Janna, the son of Joseph, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, the son of Maath, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Semei, the son of Joseph, the son of Judah, the son of Joannas, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri, the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmodam, the son of Er, the son of Jose, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonan, the son of Eliakim, the son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David, the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon, the son of Nahshon, the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God...." Luke 3:23-38

Now let's look at this in a different way:

God was the father of Adam, who was the father of Seth, who was the father of Enosh, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Mahalalel, who was the father of Jared, who was the father of Enoch, who was the father of Methuselah, who was the father of Lamech who the father of Noah..........now the Great Flood Occurred.

After the Flood, Noah was the father of Shem, who was the father of Arphaxad, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Shelah, who was the father of Eber, who was the father of Peleg, who was the father of Reu, who was the father of Serug, who was the father of Nahor, who was the father of Terah, who was the father of Abraham, who was the father of Issaac, who was the father of Jacob.

Now Jacob, wrestled all night with the angel of the Lord, who blessed Jacob with a name. Jacob's name was changed to "Israel---One who wrestles with God."

Thus, the Israel is born with the grandson of Abraham.

After the Egyptian Exile, Israel conquered what would later be called the holy land. It was here that the kingdom of Judah ruled Israel. David, and Solomon, ruled in wisdom, but after their death a great civil war occurred between Judah and the other eleven tribes of Israel. Ten of the tribes became known as Samaritans, while two of the tribes, Benjamin and Judah, were absorbed in the southern kingdom. When the Romans came across the southern tribes, they called them "Jews", from the tribe of Judah.

The Christians are born out of the tribe of Judah in the family of David as shown in the genealogy from the book of Luke as described above. Now, I stopped the genealogy at Jesus Christ for two reasons.

First, Jesus Christ, Son of David, Son of Israel, Son of Abraham, Son of Noah, Son of Adam, Son of God, ends the line of God's Priestly People. For no longer is there a blood line of the perfect Human being, this is because Jesus passes on to all Christians that right of blood line making all of us members of His family. And at each mass, He gives us his flesh and blood, to show that all humanity is connected to the royal family of God.

Second, Jesus completes the prophecy of Adam. Therefore, man is made whole by Jesus Christ. Thus, the new and the old are renewed in the family of God.

I know First and Second are just philosophical and theological, but to complement the philosophical and theological we can thus understand now, that Modern Man is older than Neanderthal Man and Cro-Magnon man. To cure this physical discrepancy, Jesus unites all of Man, through his body and blood, through his life death and resurrection on the cross the family of man, that was poisoned by the angels, is united in Christ. This is a scientific fact. But my question does not include this fact, which is a rabbit hole, that will take centuries to argue. Therefore, let's just leave this point alone for now.

The Muslims declare that they too are descendants from Abraham, just like Israel is. This is not deniable, for they are descendants of Ishmael, Issac's older brother. Thus, in this author's opinion, this is why the Sunnis can and do try to make peace with both Christians and Jews. However, it is the Shiites that seek the destruction of the Jews. Why, I can only speculate.

I don't know much about the Shiites off shoot of the Muslim faith. But I do know about the Sunnis.

What I do witness however, is the strictness of the Shiites, are following in the footsteps of Nimrod, King of Babel. The same Nimrod who it is thought of that killed Noah over the garments of Adam and Eve. The same Nimrod whose wife/mother called herself ISIS and her son/husband (Nimrod) Baal. Baal is the Babylonian Sun God, where ISIS is the Babylonian Moon god.

The reason, I can say with certain terms that this is happening today, is by the actions of Hamas, Hezbollah, and ISIS.

Israel in its whole history from the time Jacob wrestled with the angel, until present day, shows a people who come and go from God. Even when Israel murdered their God's only Son, they were punished by the Romans, in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Even Saint James tried to intercede in their destruction.

But regardless of their history, no group of human people, let them be Christian or Jew, Muslim or Palestinian, should their men, women, or children be beheaded, burned alive, raped, murdered, or taken captive. This is what had occurred in World War II as well as October 7 of this year.

Regardless of any argument that Hamas, Hezbollah or Palestine comes up with to Justify the brutality of October 7, the fact still remains, How can a human being do that barbery against another human being? And if they can, then in the Law of Moses and the Rite of Jesus Christ, then the same shall be done to them...

Did I get anything wrong?

Reply
Nov 3, 2023 20:39:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Nope.
Ranger7374 wrote:
On October 7, 2023, Hamas killed many Jews and kidnapped 207 others. (I attached a file that has all the victims, names and pictures)

Now, Israel is on a revenge mission against Hamas. It is well with in Israel's right to seek out the murderers and barbarians who committed an act, equal to what Hitler did during World War II.

But what I don't understand, and till this day, I still don't understand it, is the brutal murder and kidnapping of the Jews.

Jesus Christ is a direct descendant of Adam, the first man.

"Jesus Christ was the son of Joseph, the son of Heli, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Janna, the son of Joseph, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, the son of Maath, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Semei, the son of Joseph, the son of Judah, the son of Joannas, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri, the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmodam, the son of Er, the son of Jose, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonan, the son of Eliakim, the son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David, the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon, the son of Nahshon, the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God...." Luke 3:23-38

Now let's look at this in a different way:

God was the father of Adam, who was the father of Seth, who was the father of Enosh, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Mahalalel, who was the father of Jared, who was the father of Enoch, who was the father of Methuselah, who was the father of Lamech who the father of Noah..........now the Great Flood Occurred.

After the Flood, Noah was the father of Shem, who was the father of Arphaxad, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Shelah, who was the father of Eber, who was the father of Peleg, who was the father of Reu, who was the father of Serug, who was the father of Nahor, who was the father of Terah, who was the father of Abraham, who was the father of Issaac, who was the father of Jacob.

Now Jacob, wrestled all night with the angel of the Lord, who blessed Jacob with a name. Jacob's name was changed to "Israel---One who wrestles with God."

Thus, the Israel is born with the grandson of Abraham.

After the Egyptian Exile, Israel conquered what would later be called the holy land. It was here that the kingdom of Judah ruled Israel. David, and Solomon, ruled in wisdom, but after their death a great civil war occurred between Judah and the other eleven tribes of Israel. Ten of the tribes became known as Samaritans, while two of the tribes, Benjamin and Judah, were absorbed in the southern kingdom. When the Romans came across the southern tribes, they called them "Jews", from the tribe of Judah.

The Christians are born out of the tribe of Judah in the family of David as shown in the genealogy from the book of Luke as described above. Now, I stopped the genealogy at Jesus Christ for two reasons.

First, Jesus Christ, Son of David, Son of Israel, Son of Abraham, Son of Noah, Son of Adam, Son of God, ends the line of God's Priestly People. For no longer is there a blood line of the perfect Human being, this is because Jesus passes on to all Christians that right of blood line making all of us members of His family. And at each mass, He gives us his flesh and blood, to show that all humanity is connected to the royal family of God.

Second, Jesus completes the prophecy of Adam. Therefore, man is made whole by Jesus Christ. Thus, the new and the old are renewed in the family of God.

I know First and Second are just philosophical and theological, but to complement the philosophical and theological we can thus understand now, that Modern Man is older than Neanderthal Man and Cro-Magnon man. To cure this physical discrepancy, Jesus unites all of Man, through his body and blood, through his life death and resurrection on the cross the family of man, that was poisoned by the angels, is united in Christ. This is a scientific fact. But my question does not include this fact, which is a rabbit hole, that will take centuries to argue. Therefore, let's just leave this point alone for now.

The Muslims declare that they too are descendants from Abraham, just like Israel is. This is not deniable, for they are descendants of Ishmael, Issac's older brother. Thus, in this author's opinion, this is why the Sunnis can and do try to make peace with both Christians and Jews. However, it is the Shiites that seek the destruction of the Jews. Why, I can only speculate.

I don't know much about the Shiites off shoot of the Muslim faith. But I do know about the Sunnis.

What I do witness however, is the strictness of the Shiites, are following in the footsteps of Nimrod, King of Babel. The same Nimrod who it is thought of that killed Noah over the garments of Adam and Eve. The same Nimrod whose wife/mother called herself ISIS and her son/husband (Nimrod) Baal. Baal is the Babylonian Sun God, where ISIS is the Babylonian Moon god.

The reason, I can say with certain terms that this is happening today, is by the actions of Hamas, Hezbollah, and ISIS.

Israel in its whole history from the time Jacob wrestled with the angel, until present day, shows a people who come and go from God. Even when Israel murdered their God's only Son, they were punished by the Romans, in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Even Saint James tried to intercede in their destruction.

But regardless of their history, no group of human people, let them be Christian or Jew, Muslim or Palestinian, should their men, women, or children be beheaded, burned alive, raped, murdered, or taken captive. This is what had occurred in World War II as well as October 7 of this year.

Regardless of any argument that Hamas, Hezbollah or Palestine comes up with to Justify the brutality of October 7, the fact still remains, How can a human being do that barbery against another human being? And if they can, then in the Law of Moses and the Rite of Jesus Christ, then the same shall be done to them...

Did I get anything wrong?
On October 7, 2023, Hamas killed many Jews and kid... (show quote)

Reply
Nov 3, 2023 20:57:01   #
Kevyn
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
On October 7, 2023, Hamas killed many Jews and kidnapped 207 others. (I attached a file that has all the victims, names and pictures)

Now, Israel is on a revenge mission against Hamas. It is well with in Israel's right to seek out the murderers and barbarians who committed an act, equal to what Hitler did during World War II.

But what I don't understand, and till this day, I still don't understand it, is the brutal murder and kidnapping of the Jews.

Jesus Christ is a direct descendant of Adam, the first man.

"Jesus Christ was the son of Joseph, the son of Heli, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Janna, the son of Joseph, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, the son of Maath, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Semei, the son of Joseph, the son of Judah, the son of Joannas, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri, the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmodam, the son of Er, the son of Jose, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonan, the son of Eliakim, the son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David, the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon, the son of Nahshon, the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God...." Luke 3:23-38

Now let's look at this in a different way:

God was the father of Adam, who was the father of Seth, who was the father of Enosh, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Mahalalel, who was the father of Jared, who was the father of Enoch, who was the father of Methuselah, who was the father of Lamech who the father of Noah..........now the Great Flood Occurred.

After the Flood, Noah was the father of Shem, who was the father of Arphaxad, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Shelah, who was the father of Eber, who was the father of Peleg, who was the father of Reu, who was the father of Serug, who was the father of Nahor, who was the father of Terah, who was the father of Abraham, who was the father of Issaac, who was the father of Jacob.

Now Jacob, wrestled all night with the angel of the Lord, who blessed Jacob with a name. Jacob's name was changed to "Israel---One who wrestles with God."

Thus, the Israel is born with the grandson of Abraham.

After the Egyptian Exile, Israel conquered what would later be called the holy land. It was here that the kingdom of Judah ruled Israel. David, and Solomon, ruled in wisdom, but after their death a great civil war occurred between Judah and the other eleven tribes of Israel. Ten of the tribes became known as Samaritans, while two of the tribes, Benjamin and Judah, were absorbed in the southern kingdom. When the Romans came across the southern tribes, they called them "Jews", from the tribe of Judah.

The Christians are born out of the tribe of Judah in the family of David as shown in the genealogy from the book of Luke as described above. Now, I stopped the genealogy at Jesus Christ for two reasons.

First, Jesus Christ, Son of David, Son of Israel, Son of Abraham, Son of Noah, Son of Adam, Son of God, ends the line of God's Priestly People. For no longer is there a blood line of the perfect Human being, this is because Jesus passes on to all Christians that right of blood line making all of us members of His family. And at each mass, He gives us his flesh and blood, to show that all humanity is connected to the royal family of God.

Second, Jesus completes the prophecy of Adam. Therefore, man is made whole by Jesus Christ. Thus, the new and the old are renewed in the family of God.

I know First and Second are just philosophical and theological, but to complement the philosophical and theological we can thus understand now, that Modern Man is older than Neanderthal Man and Cro-Magnon man. To cure this physical discrepancy, Jesus unites all of Man, through his body and blood, through his life death and resurrection on the cross the family of man, that was poisoned by the angels, is united in Christ. This is a scientific fact. But my question does not include this fact, which is a rabbit hole, that will take centuries to argue. Therefore, let's just leave this point alone for now.

The Muslims declare that they too are descendants from Abraham, just like Israel is. This is not deniable, for they are descendants of Ishmael, Issac's older brother. Thus, in this author's opinion, this is why the Sunnis can and do try to make peace with both Christians and Jews. However, it is the Shiites that seek the destruction of the Jews. Why, I can only speculate.

I don't know much about the Shiites off shoot of the Muslim faith. But I do know about the Sunnis.

What I do witness however, is the strictness of the Shiites, are following in the footsteps of Nimrod, King of Babel. The same Nimrod who it is thought of that killed Noah over the garments of Adam and Eve. The same Nimrod whose wife/mother called herself ISIS and her son/husband (Nimrod) Baal. Baal is the Babylonian Sun God, where ISIS is the Babylonian Moon god.

The reason, I can say with certain terms that this is happening today, is by the actions of Hamas, Hezbollah, and ISIS.

Israel in its whole history from the time Jacob wrestled with the angel, until present day, shows a people who come and go from God. Even when Israel murdered their God's only Son, they were punished by the Romans, in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Even Saint James tried to intercede in their destruction.

But regardless of their history, no group of human people, let them be Christian or Jew, Muslim or Palestinian, should their men, women, or children be beheaded, burned alive, raped, murdered, or taken captive. This is what had occurred in World War II as well as October 7 of this year.

Regardless of any argument that Hamas, Hezbollah or Palestine comes up with to Justify the brutality of October 7, the fact still remains, How can a human being do that barbery against another human being? And if they can, then in the Law of Moses and the Rite of Jesus Christ, then the same shall be done to them...

Did I get anything wrong?
On October 7, 2023, Hamas killed many Jews and kid... (show quote)


You are excusing the murder of thousands of children. Besides that nothing.

Reply
 
 
Nov 3, 2023 20:59:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
You are excusing the murder of thousands of children. Besides that nothing.
Who is he excusing for the murder of "thousands of children"?

Reply
Nov 3, 2023 21:20:50   #
BIRDMAN
 
Kevyn wrote:
You are excusing the murder of thousands of children. Besides that nothing.


Yes because HAMAS would never kill a child



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Nov 3, 2023 21:21:21   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Kevyn wrote:
You are excusing the murder of thousands of children. Besides that nothing.


Wait what thousands of children? Who do you refer to, when pizza ovens were used to kill the Jews in World War II or similar ovens used to kill them on October 7th?

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Nov 4, 2023 02:20:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
On October 7, 2023, Hamas killed many Jews and kidnapped 207 others. (I attached a file that has all the victims, names and pictures)

Now, Israel is on a revenge mission against Hamas. It is well with in Israel's right to seek out the murderers and barbarians who committed an act, equal to what Hitler did during World War II.

But what I don't understand, and till this day, I still don't understand it, is the brutal murder and kidnapping of the Jews.

Jesus Christ is a direct descendant of Adam, the first man.

"Jesus Christ was the son of Joseph, the son of Heli, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Janna, the son of Joseph, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, the son of Maath, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Semei, the son of Joseph, the son of Judah, the son of Joannas, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri, the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmodam, the son of Er, the son of Jose, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonan, the son of Eliakim, the son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David, the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon, the son of Nahshon, the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God...." Luke 3:23-38

Now let's look at this in a different way:

God was the father of Adam, who was the father of Seth, who was the father of Enosh, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Mahalalel, who was the father of Jared, who was the father of Enoch, who was the father of Methuselah, who was the father of Lamech who the father of Noah..........now the Great Flood Occurred.

After the Flood, Noah was the father of Shem, who was the father of Arphaxad, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Shelah, who was the father of Eber, who was the father of Peleg, who was the father of Reu, who was the father of Serug, who was the father of Nahor, who was the father of Terah, who was the father of Abraham, who was the father of Issaac, who was the father of Jacob.

Now Jacob, wrestled all night with the angel of the Lord, who blessed Jacob with a name. Jacob's name was changed to "Israel---One who wrestles with God."

Thus, the Israel is born with the grandson of Abraham.

After the Egyptian Exile, Israel conquered what would later be called the holy land. It was here that the kingdom of Judah ruled Israel. David, and Solomon, ruled in wisdom, but after their death a great civil war occurred between Judah and the other eleven tribes of Israel. Ten of the tribes became known as Samaritans, while two of the tribes, Benjamin and Judah, were absorbed in the southern kingdom. When the Romans came across the southern tribes, they called them "Jews", from the tribe of Judah.

The Christians are born out of the tribe of Judah in the family of David as shown in the genealogy from the book of Luke as described above. Now, I stopped the genealogy at Jesus Christ for two reasons.

First, Jesus Christ, Son of David, Son of Israel, Son of Abraham, Son of Noah, Son of Adam, Son of God, ends the line of God's Priestly People. For no longer is there a blood line of the perfect Human being, this is because Jesus passes on to all Christians that right of blood line making all of us members of His family. And at each mass, He gives us his flesh and blood, to show that all humanity is connected to the royal family of God.

Second, Jesus completes the prophecy of Adam. Therefore, man is made whole by Jesus Christ. Thus, the new and the old are renewed in the family of God.

I know First and Second are just philosophical and theological, but to complement the philosophical and theological we can thus understand now, that Modern Man is older than Neanderthal Man and Cro-Magnon man. To cure this physical discrepancy, Jesus unites all of Man, through his body and blood, through his life death and resurrection on the cross the family of man, that was poisoned by the angels, is united in Christ. This is a scientific fact. But my question does not include this fact, which is a rabbit hole, that will take centuries to argue. Therefore, let's just leave this point alone for now.

The Muslims declare that they too are descendants from Abraham, just like Israel is. This is not deniable, for they are descendants of Ishmael, Issac's older brother. Thus, in this author's opinion, this is why the Sunnis can and do try to make peace with both Christians and Jews. However, it is the Shiites that seek the destruction of the Jews. Why, I can only speculate.

I don't know much about the Shiites off shoot of the Muslim faith. But I do know about the Sunnis.

What I do witness however, is the strictness of the Shiites, are following in the footsteps of Nimrod, King of Babel. The same Nimrod who it is thought of that killed Noah over the garments of Adam and Eve. The same Nimrod whose wife/mother called herself ISIS and her son/husband (Nimrod) Baal. Baal is the Babylonian Sun God, where ISIS is the Babylonian Moon god.

The reason, I can say with certain terms that this is happening today, is by the actions of Hamas, Hezbollah, and ISIS.

Israel in its whole history from the time Jacob wrestled with the angel, until present day, shows a people who come and go from God. Even when Israel murdered their God's only Son, they were punished by the Romans, in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Even Saint James tried to intercede in their destruction.

But regardless of their history, no group of human people, let them be Christian or Jew, Muslim or Palestinian, should their men, women, or children be beheaded, burned alive, raped, murdered, or taken captive. This is what had occurred in World War II as well as October 7 of this year.

Regardless of any argument that Hamas, Hezbollah or Palestine comes up with to Justify the brutality of October 7, the fact still remains, How can a human being do that barbery against another human being? And if they can, then in the Law of Moses and the Rite of Jesus Christ, then the same shall be done to them...

Did I get anything wrong?
On October 7, 2023, Hamas killed many Jews and kid... (show quote)


I think every Palestinian guilty of those crimes should be executed...
Same with every Israeli...

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Nov 4, 2023 02:59:35   #
WEBCO
 
Kevyn wrote:
You are excusing the murder of thousands of children. Besides that nothing.


He didn't excuse the actions of hamas.

Don't start/continue a war if you don't want civilians killed.. You certainly don't understand human nature, and not much of anything else, unfortunately.

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Nov 4, 2023 03:03:30   #
WEBCO
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I think every Palestinian guilty of those crimes should be executed...
Same with every Israeli...


Only one side has committed crimes.

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Nov 4, 2023 03:09:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
WEBCO wrote:
Only one side has committed crimes.


Which side????

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Nov 4, 2023 08:39:28   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
On October 7, 2023, Hamas killed many Jews and kidnapped 207 others. (I attached a file that has all the victims, names and pictures)

Now, Israel is on a revenge mission against Hamas. It is well with in Israel's right to seek out the murderers and barbarians who committed an act, equal to what Hitler did during World War II.

But what I don't understand, and till this day, I still don't understand it, is the brutal murder and kidnapping of the Jews.

Jesus Christ is a direct descendant of Adam, the first man.

"Jesus Christ was the son of Joseph, the son of Heli, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Janna, the son of Joseph, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, the son of Maath, the son of Mattathiah, the son of Semei, the son of Joseph, the son of Judah, the son of Joannas, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri, the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmodam, the son of Er, the son of Jose, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Simeon, the son of Judah, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonan, the son of Eliakim, the son of Melea, the son of Menan, the son of Mattathah, the son of Nathan, the son of David, the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon, the son of Nahshon, the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, the son of Cainan, the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God...." Luke 3:23-38

Now let's look at this in a different way:

God was the father of Adam, who was the father of Seth, who was the father of Enosh, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Mahalalel, who was the father of Jared, who was the father of Enoch, who was the father of Methuselah, who was the father of Lamech who the father of Noah..........now the Great Flood Occurred.

After the Flood, Noah was the father of Shem, who was the father of Arphaxad, who was the father of Cainan, who was the father of Shelah, who was the father of Eber, who was the father of Peleg, who was the father of Reu, who was the father of Serug, who was the father of Nahor, who was the father of Terah, who was the father of Abraham, who was the father of Issaac, who was the father of Jacob.

Now Jacob, wrestled all night with the angel of the Lord, who blessed Jacob with a name. Jacob's name was changed to "Israel---One who wrestles with God."

Thus, the Israel is born with the grandson of Abraham.

After the Egyptian Exile, Israel conquered what would later be called the holy land. It was here that the kingdom of Judah ruled Israel. David, and Solomon, ruled in wisdom, but after their death a great civil war occurred between Judah and the other eleven tribes of Israel. Ten of the tribes became known as Samaritans, while two of the tribes, Benjamin and Judah, were absorbed in the southern kingdom. When the Romans came across the southern tribes, they called them "Jews", from the tribe of Judah.

The Christians are born out of the tribe of Judah in the family of David as shown in the genealogy from the book of Luke as described above. Now, I stopped the genealogy at Jesus Christ for two reasons.

First, Jesus Christ, Son of David, Son of Israel, Son of Abraham, Son of Noah, Son of Adam, Son of God, ends the line of God's Priestly People. For no longer is there a blood line of the perfect Human being, this is because Jesus passes on to all Christians that right of blood line making all of us members of His family. And at each mass, He gives us his flesh and blood, to show that all humanity is connected to the royal family of God.

Second, Jesus completes the prophecy of Adam. Therefore, man is made whole by Jesus Christ. Thus, the new and the old are renewed in the family of God.

I know First and Second are just philosophical and theological, but to complement the philosophical and theological we can thus understand now, that Modern Man is older than Neanderthal Man and Cro-Magnon man. To cure this physical discrepancy, Jesus unites all of Man, through his body and blood, through his life death and resurrection on the cross the family of man, that was poisoned by the angels, is united in Christ. This is a scientific fact. But my question does not include this fact, which is a rabbit hole, that will take centuries to argue. Therefore, let's just leave this point alone for now.

The Muslims declare that they too are descendants from Abraham, just like Israel is. This is not deniable, for they are descendants of Ishmael, Issac's older brother. Thus, in this author's opinion, this is why the Sunnis can and do try to make peace with both Christians and Jews. However, it is the Shiites that seek the destruction of the Jews. Why, I can only speculate.

I don't know much about the Shiites off shoot of the Muslim faith. But I do know about the Sunnis.

What I do witness however, is the strictness of the Shiites, are following in the footsteps of Nimrod, King of Babel. The same Nimrod who it is thought of that killed Noah over the garments of Adam and Eve. The same Nimrod whose wife/mother called herself ISIS and her son/husband (Nimrod) Baal. Baal is the Babylonian Sun God, where ISIS is the Babylonian Moon god.

The reason, I can say with certain terms that this is happening today, is by the actions of Hamas, Hezbollah, and ISIS.

Israel in its whole history from the time Jacob wrestled with the angel, until present day, shows a people who come and go from God. Even when Israel murdered their God's only Son, they were punished by the Romans, in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Even Saint James tried to intercede in their destruction.

But regardless of their history, no group of human people, let them be Christian or Jew, Muslim or Palestinian, should their men, women, or children be beheaded, burned alive, raped, murdered, or taken captive. This is what had occurred in World War II as well as October 7 of this year.

Regardless of any argument that Hamas, Hezbollah or Palestine comes up with to Justify the brutality of October 7, the fact still remains, How can a human being do that barbery against another human being? And if they can, then in the Law of Moses and the Rite of Jesus Christ, then the same shall be done to them...

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On October 7, 2023, Hamas killed many Jews and kid... (show quote)


Here's the 'Real deal": Too many in America, do not take the Boble "SERIOUSLY"...they "do not believe" in God, &

The "written word" ....

So, how do "you" think this is going to go? **I do not want to be here, when this prophecy becomes reality!

People "Scoff", & [ that is going to hurt]....Real bad!.... , , , ,

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