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Oct 25, 2023 00:40:03   #
fullspinzoo
 
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/07/i_was_wrong_about_trump.html

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Oct 25, 2023 05:19:58   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/07/i_was_wrong_about_trump.html


Excellent article, my friend! Definitely valid food for thought. Thanks for posting it. I need to reread it several times.

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Oct 25, 2023 05:24:16   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/07/i_was_wrong_about_trump.html


Excellent article. Here are a couple of key points that stuck out at me:

He makes the "distinction between Trump's character and his virtues, the former being deeply flawed, the latter being almost perfect."

"[Trump] revealed, not caused, the divide in this country.

"Trump said Haiti is a shithole and that representative Maxine Waters has a low IQ. These were not racist lies. They were uncouth, politically incorrect observations that most of us would agree with but would not dare say. In war, you must make a stand… Trump is a manly man... traditional manhood, even when flawed, is absolutely essential… Trump plays to win... There are no clean hands in a fistfight…Trump is unreservedly, unquestionably pro-America… Trump is a refreshing break from the guilt and self-loathing that marks our age…"

"From morning to night, we were told that Trump is a racist. But endless repetition does not make it true. It isn’t. Trump’s contempt for political correctness showed patriotic Americans that its ever-tightening grip could be loosened... It is difficult to overestimate the significance of Trump’s fight against political correctness, a fight which most Republicans are reluctant to engage… Trump treated the woke media with the same contempt he treated political correctness, provoking their outrage and revealing their utter corruption... it must be defeated.

"Trump smoked rats out of hiding places. Because of Trump we know our intelligence agencies are corrupt. We know also that the mainstream media is not just biased, that it is the propaganda arm of the Democratic party."

"A large part of Trump’s appeal was that he was a bona fide outsider. He distrusted the experts who believe they knew better than the average American how to run the country. This distrust was appealing to Trump’s base who believed, and with good reason, that is the experts who created the despotic mess in which we find ourselves. MY COMMENT: If anything, he should have picked more outsiders in his first administration against the advice of the political elite. If he gets a second chance, I very much doubt he will make that same mistake again!

The majority of the public "…They know that Republicans will lose all further elections until they get to the bottom of the last one."

"We wanted Trump not only to fix things; we wanted him to be perfect while doing it. That is unrealistic in the average family, the average relationship, the average business and the average political or cultural milieu. Yet some of us wanted Trump to be perfect enough to invite to tea. He is not that man. But he is the man for our tumultuous times."

We don't have to like his personality but his virtues far outweigh it.

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Oct 25, 2023 05:38:52   #
fullspinzoo
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Excellent article, my friend! Definitely valid food for thought. Thanks for posting it. I need to reread it several times.


Thanks both of you. I hope he does well in court.

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Oct 25, 2023 06:05:53   #
Innovator. Instigator
 
ACP45 wrote:
Excellent article. Here are a couple of key points that stuck out at me:

He makes the "distinction between Trump's character and his virtues, the former being deeply flawed, the latter being almost perfect."

"[Trump] revealed, not caused, the divide in this country.

"Trump said Haiti is a shithole and that representative Maxine Waters has a low IQ. These were not racist lies. They were uncouth, politically incorrect observations that most of us would agree with but would not dare say. In war, you must make a stand… Trump is a manly man... traditional manhood, even when flawed, is absolutely essential… Trump plays to win... There are no clean hands in a fistfight…Trump is unreservedly, unquestionably pro-America… Trump is a refreshing break from the guilt and self-loathing that marks our age…"

"From morning to night, we were told that Trump is a racist. But endless repetition does not make it true. It isn’t. Trump’s contempt for political correctness showed patriotic Americans that its ever-tightening grip could be loosened... It is difficult to overestimate the significance of Trump’s fight against political correctness, a fight which most Republicans are reluctant to engage… Trump treated the woke media with the same contempt he treated political correctness, provoking their outrage and revealing their utter corruption... it must be defeated.

"Trump smoked rats out of hiding places. Because of Trump we know our intelligence agencies are corrupt. We know also that the mainstream media is not just biased, that it is the propaganda arm of the Democratic party."

"A large part of Trump’s appeal was that he was a bona fide outsider. He distrusted the experts who believe they knew better than the average American how to run the country. This distrust was appealing to Trump’s base who believed, and with good reason, that is the experts who created the despotic mess in which we find ourselves. MY COMMENT: If anything, he should have picked more outsiders in his first administration against the advice of the political elite. If he gets a second chance, I very much doubt he will make that same mistake again!

The majority of the public "…They know that Republicans will lose all further elections until they get to the bottom of the last one."

"We wanted Trump not only to fix things; we wanted him to be perfect while doing it. That is unrealistic in the average family, the average relationship, the average business and the average political or cultural milieu. Yet some of us wanted Trump to be perfect enough to invite to tea. He is not that man. But he is the man for our tumultuous times."

We don't have to like his personality but his virtues far outweigh it.
Excellent article. Here are a couple of key points... (show quote)



Trump has virtues? Oh, really? And what might they be? He is NOT the man for our tumultuous times, because he is the very REASON FOR the tumult!

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Oct 25, 2023 07:54:39   #
Radiance3
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/07/i_was_wrong_about_trump.html


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Thank you. I am glad the truth is coming out. My defenses for president Trump never falter no matter how I encountered so much attacks and degradations from his political opponents. Donald Trump is a patriot.

I've admired Donald Trump since the beginning. His patriotism and dedicated vision he'd aspired to make this country truly great again could not be denied. He sacrificed his life, his fortune, against all relentless attempts by the left to stop him.

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Oct 25, 2023 07:58:34   #
fullspinzoo
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Thank you. I am glad the truth is coming out. My defenses for president Trump never falter no matter how I encountered so much attacks and degradations from his political opponents. Donald Trump is a patriot.

I've admired Donald Trump since the beginning. His patriotism and dedicated vision he'd aspired to make this country truly great again could not be denied. He sacrificed his life, his fortune, against all relentless attempts by the left to stop him.
=================== br I Thank you. I am glad t... (show quote)


He's not the biggest threat to "democracy". He's the biggest threat to Marxism/communism. that's why guys like Kevyn, Bad Bob, and PeterS can't stand him. No other reason.

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Oct 25, 2023 09:58:03   #
currahee506
 
He is an American, the kind I fought with in the 3/506th 101st airborne in Vietnam in 1968 and worked with when I built houses. Rugged individualism and leadership by men have gone underground because of the lies that have come from the Manhattan Marxist propaganda machine filling the airways and the collusion of the money-changers with the Chinese Communists. "Follow the money" used to be a common sense dictate for anyone who wants answers to the questions as to the motives of those who "broke" for power over the individual. We have now become a society that says, "I don't want to know who is cutting my throat just as long as their words are pretty and the knife makes me feel good."

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Oct 25, 2023 10:09:56   #
fullspinzoo
 
currahee506 wrote:
He is an American, the kind I fought with in the 3/506th 101st airborne in Vietnam in 1968 and worked with when I built houses. Rugged individualism and leadership by men have gone underground because of the lies that have come from the Manhattan Marxist propaganda machine filling the airways and the collusion of the money-changers with the Chinese Communists. "Follow the money" used to be a common sense dictate for anyone who wants answers to the questions as to the motives of those who "broke" for power over the individual. We have now become a society that says, "I don't want to know who is cutting my throat just as long as their words are pretty and the knife makes me feel good."
He is an American, the kind I fought with in the 3... (show quote)


He's an unbelievable fighter. I can't think of one politician who would have put up with so much bullshit except for this guy. I mean it's absolutely unbelievable. I bet a lot of Dems wish secretly that they had someone so tough as Trump. If they only had the balls to admit it. That's why I like him so much as the leader of the free world. Not going to any Schitte. They've written the obituary on this guy so many times and he comes back like a cat with more than nine lives. It makes me respect him just that much more.

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Oct 25, 2023 15:06:40   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
Innovator. Instigator wrote:
Trump has virtues? Oh, really? And what might they be? He is NOT the man for our tumultuous times, because he is the very REASON FOR the tumult!


First welcome to the Forum Innovator. Yes I agree with you but you will find we are most definitely in the minority here on OPP. Just be prepared for more than a few who will vehemently disagree with you. Plus most likely to be referred to as Leftist, Marxist or Worse(Even though you may be a sane centrist Republican who sees that the GOP has veered to the Extreme right)

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Oct 25, 2023 15:33:26   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
First welcome to the Forum Innovator. Yes I agree with you but you will find we are most definitely in the minority here on OPP. Just be prepared for more than a few who will vehemently disagree with you. Plus most likely to be referred to as Leftist, Marxist or Worse(Even though you may be a sane centrist Republican who sees that the GOP has veered to the Extreme right)


Welcome, II! And yes, I disagree with you, as my pal Lost Aggie suggested would happen.
LA, one of the issues today is this:
If used a scale of 0 to 10 to illustrate the political spectrum, one would reasonably think that 0 is the extreme left, 3 is the average left, 5 is centrist, 8 is average right, and 10 is extreme right wing. That is the way I try to look at it.
As you know, to most people, it ain't thata way! Progressives act as though 2 is the center, and anything to the right of that is a right wing extremist. Many on the right do the same thing. Anything to the left side of 8 is extreme left wing.
The way I see it is, the extreme left wants and demands things that the majority of Americans do not, including the right, the centrists, and most of the left learner's. I think the Democrat party is being run by those extremists, and are pushing for things you, for example, do not support.
The extreme right (which does NOT, by the way, include racists and white supremacists--they are a whole different tribe all on their own) does not really run the Republican party, even if you think of Trump as being one. Trump spent as much time trying to get support from elected Republicans as he did fighting Democrats.
Tell me, if you please, what proposals, policies, characteristics, etc, makes up the 'extreme right' in your opinion.
Let's talk about it, and see if we can reach an agreement on terms, at least.

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Oct 25, 2023 15:55:21   #
martsiva
 
Innovator. Instigator wrote:
Trump has virtues? Oh, really? And what might they be? He is NOT the man for our tumultuous times, because he is the very REASON FOR the tumult!


After all the damage Biden and his Democrats have done and you say Trump is the reason for these tumultuous times?? SAY WHAT?? Did Trump create the border crisis that allowed millions of illegals and possibly terrorists into this country?? Did Trump cause the high inflation we have?? Did Trump send billions of dollars to Iran that has caused the war in the Middle East??

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Oct 25, 2023 15:57:53   #
martsiva
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
First welcome to the Forum Innovator. Yes I agree with you but you will find we are most definitely in the minority here on OPP. Just be prepared for more than a few who will vehemently disagree with you. Plus most likely to be referred to as Leftist, Marxist or Worse(Even though you may be a sane centrist Republican who sees that the GOP has veered to the Extreme right)


After all the damage in this country caused by Biden and his Democrats - you agree??

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Oct 25, 2023 16:44:18   #
Wolfman888
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Thank you. I am glad the truth is coming out. My defenses for president Trump never falter no matter how I encountered so much attacks and degradations from his political opponents. Donald Trump is a patriot.

I've admired Donald Trump since the beginning. His patriotism and dedicated vision he'd aspired to make this country truly great again could not be denied. He sacrificed his life, his fortune, against all relentless attempts by the left to stop him.
=================== br I Thank you. I am glad t... (show quote)


Forget the political opponents, what about families that get down on their knees every night
and hope the moronic gene that caused family members to vote for Trump is not passed on to future generations?

His orange hair will match his jumpsuit and Crocs when he is soon imprisoned.

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Oct 25, 2023 16:53:46   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
Thanks both of you. I hope he does well in court.


Praying for him

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