I just did some poking around on the internet for some numbers. As someone who studied accounting in high school I know that figures don't lie but liars can figure, but even so even if these numbers are pretty far off we could remove every single homeless American off the streets and into housing and rehab. The numbers show that there are some 582,000 homeless in the entire US. The figure I found currently being spent on illegal 'migrants' is around 250 Billion dollars per YEAR. It seems to me that if we redirected that money we could clear the streets of the homeless getting them into housing and treatment and have enough money left over to 'relocate' the illegals back to their countries of origin where they can wait for their processing to take place and still have money left over.
If the 'experts' feel that we need to increase our population then I suggest the US put the word out to the world that we are interested in welcoming people with proven skills to the land of opportunity.
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I just did some poking around on the internet for some numbers. As someone who studied accounting in high school I know that figures don't lie but liars can figure, but even so even if these numbers are pretty far off we could remove every single homeless American off the streets and into housing and rehab. The numbers show that there are some 582,000 homeless in the entire US. The figure I found currently being spent on illegal 'migrants' is around 250 Billion dollars per YEAR. It seems to me that if we redirected that money we could clear the streets of the homeless getting them into housing and treatment and have enough money left over to 'relocate' the illegals back to their countries of origin where they can wait for their processing to take place and still have money left over.
If the 'experts' feel that we need to increase our population then I suggest the US put the word out to the world that we are interested in welcoming people with proven skills to the land of opportunity.
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F.D.R. wrote:
I just did some poking around on the internet for some numbers. As someone who studied accounting in high school I know that figures don't lie but liars can figure, but even so even if these numbers are pretty far off we could remove every single homeless American off the streets and into housing and rehab. The numbers show that there are some 582,000 homeless in the entire US. The figure I found currently being spent on illegal 'migrants' is around 250 Billion dollars per YEAR. It seems to me that if we redirected that money we could clear the streets of the homeless getting them into housing and treatment and have enough money left over to 'relocate' the illegals back to their countries of origin where they can wait for their processing to take place and still have money left over.
If the 'experts' feel that we need to increase our population then I suggest the US put the word out to the world that we are interested in welcoming people with proven skills to the land of opportunity.
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Agreed...but the assuming that all the homeless want a home and treatment is not valid. They do not. At least not with any obligations on their part. Getting the addicted and mentally ill homeless off the street will require forced committment to mental institutions as things were back in the 60-70's.
Many of not most of these homeless probably have mental drug overdose issues and need treatment.
It's definitely a huge problem and difficult to solve.
I heard today there have been 50 homicides in Seattle. I had no idea Seattle was this bad.
Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland OR Seattle WA. The West Coast🤔
[quote=WinkyTink]Agreed...but the assuming that all the homeless want a home and treatment is not valid. They do not. At least not with any obligations on their part. Getting the addicted and mentally ill homeless off the street will require forced committment to mental institutions as things were back in the 60-70's.[/quote
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I agree! Same problem everywhere! Put them in housing, and you will have uninhabitable houses within a month, and the homeless back on the streets. This has been tried and shown to be fact.
[quote=manning5][quote=WinkyTink]Agreed...but the assuming that all the homeless want a home and treatment is not valid. They do not. At least not with any obligations on their part. Getting the addicted and mentally ill homeless off the street will require forced committment to mental institutions as things were back in the 60-70's.[/quote
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I agree! Same problem everywhere! Put them in housing, and you will have uninhabitable houses within a month, and the homeless back on the streets. This has been tried and shown to be fact.[/quote]
So what do you do with them? I have known a number of homeless people, and only a couple who actually actively tried to improve their lot. They got out of the mess, got jobs and apartments. Most do not. You cannot have them sprawled out all over public sidewalks and causing problems, so what do you do? Establish refugee camps?
I was homeless myself for a short time back in the seventies. Well, I was sleeping in my car. Within a week I had a crappy job, (better one in about a month) I bought a tent and moved into a campground where I stayed until I could afford a place. I at least had an address, a secure place to sleep and somewhere with a shower and flush toilets. I actually stayed in the campground by choice (with a better tent) for the entire summer up into the fall. I could have stayed there longer by insulating the tent but the campground closed for the season.
All valid points but that doesn't change the fact that we have more than ample resources to try. Those that can be helped will be helped and those that refuse to be helped could be removed from the streets and confined and cared for away from the public.
F.D.R. wrote:
I just did some poking around on the internet for some numbers. As someone who studied accounting in high school I know that figures don't lie but liars can figure, but even so even if these numbers are pretty far off we could remove every single homeless American off the streets and into housing and rehab. The numbers show that there are some 582,000 homeless in the entire US. The figure I found currently being spent on illegal 'migrants' is around 250 Billion dollars per YEAR. It seems to me that if we redirected that money we could clear the streets of the homeless getting them into housing and treatment and have enough money left over to 'relocate' the illegals back to their countries of origin where they can wait for their processing to take place and still have money left over.
If the 'experts' feel that we need to increase our population then I suggest the US put the word out to the world that we are interested in welcoming people with proven skills to the land of opportunity.
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200 Billion $$/5.82K homeless comes to $429,553/homeless person. How do you suggest the government piss away that kind of money instead of pissing it away on the illegal immigrent problem.
I say stop pissing away the money altogether, both problems will go away on their own.
F.D.R. wrote:
I just did some poking around on the internet for some numbers. As someone who studied accounting in high school I know that figures don't lie but liars can figure, but even so even if these numbers are pretty far off we could remove every single homeless American off the streets and into housing and rehab. The numbers show that there are some 582,000 homeless in the entire US. The figure I found currently being spent on illegal 'migrants' is around 250 Billion dollars per YEAR. It seems to me that if we redirected that money we could clear the streets of the homeless getting them into housing and treatment and have enough money left over to 'relocate' the illegals back to their countries of origin where they can wait for their processing to take place and still have money left over.
If the 'experts' feel that we need to increase our population then I suggest the US put the word out to the world that we are interested in welcoming people with proven skills to the land of opportunity.
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Proven skills is the key to immigration. The demorats prefer those illegals with no skills so that they can give them freebies so that they can vote demorat the rest of their lives.
Outstanding analysis and solution to a growing problem CREATED by left-wing politics from the DemonCRAP (socialist/communist) Party to destroy the US from within so that they can have a one-party rule, based upon socialism/communism/Marxism/Bolshevikism.
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So what do you do with them? I have known a number of homeless people, and only a couple who actually actively tried to improve their lot. They got out of the mess, got jobs and apartments. Most do not. You cannot have them sprawled out all over public sidewalks and causing problems, so what do you do? Establish refugee camps?
I was homeless myself for a short time back in the seventies. Well, I was sleeping in my car. Within a week I had a crappy job, (better one in about a month) I bought a tent and moved into a campground where I stayed until I could afford a place. I at least had an address, a secure place to sleep and somewhere with a shower and flush toilets. I actually stayed in the campground by choice (with a better tent) for the entire summer up into the fall. I could have stayed there longer by insulating the tent but the campground closed for the season.
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People who have the drive can always find a way back on to their feet. Perhaps extending some help to them could incentivise some on the edge. The rest need to be committed to an asylum/jail.
[quote=manning5][quote=WinkyTink]Agreed...but the assuming that all the homeless want a home and treatment is not valid. They do not. At least not with any obligations on their part. Getting the addicted and mentally ill homeless off the street will require forced committment to mental institutions as things were back in the 60-70's.[/quote
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I agree! Same problem everywhere! Put them in housing, and you will have uninhabitable houses within a month, and the homeless back on the streets. This has been tried and shown to be fact.[/quote]
What do the homeless want most? FREE food and drugs with NO obligations or responsibilities ever.
Trump don't care bout nobody but himself !!
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