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Dec 19, 2014 21:28:44   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Bush vs. Clinton In 2016? New World Order Dream Matchup Being Touted As ‘Inevitable’

December 17, 2014 in News by Manny Quiroz

Source: End of the American Dream


The next presidential election is still nearly two years away, and yet the mainstream media is already telling Americans who they are supposed to vote for. Now that Jeb Bush has all but officially declared that he is running for president, a “dream matchup” between Bush and Hillary Clinton is being touted as “inevitable”. But is this what the American people actually want? Most liberals seem to truly dislike Clinton, and most conservatives can’t stand Bush at this point. And yet when the time comes, the big money donors will line up behind them and they will get far more media coverage than the other candidates. Yes, there is still a chance that another establishment candidate such as Mitt Romney could jump ahead of Bush on the Republican side, and there is also a chance that Hillary Clinton may decide not to run at all (more on that below). But when it is all said and done, it is virtually certain that Americans will have a choice between establishment candidate #1 and establishment candidate #2 on election day 2016, and that is absolutely sickening.

We have already had 20 years of Bush/Clinton, and if it is Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton in 2016 we will be guaranteed another four years.

The Bushes and Clintons are portrayed as “enemies” by the mainstream media, but that is not even close to the truth. The two families have a long, friendly relationship, they have taken vacations together, and they even publicly joke with each other over social media. The following is just one example that was recently highlighted in Time Magazine…

Former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton broadcast their unlikely bromance on social media Tuesday when Clinton posted a picture of himself reading Bush’s new book.

Clinton’s #HowAreYouStillNotOnTwitter hashtag is a reference to his President’s Day tweet this year, which ribbed the younger Bush for not having an account. This time, Bush responded. He posted Clinton’s tweet on Instagram with the caption, “Thanks, 42! Hope you like the book about your pal, #41. #HowAreYouSTILLNotOnInstagram #PresidentialGrammers #BrotherFromAnotherMother”.

And when it comes to politics, there is very little actually separating the two families on a practical basis. That is why it seemed like nothing really changed no matter who was in the White House. The truth is that the Bushes and the Clintons are both progressives that eagerly promote the globalist agenda of the New World Order elite.

But to this day, there are still many good conservatives that truly believe that George W. Bush is one of them. Even when Laura Bush went on national television and declared that she is solidly pro-choice and that she enthusiastically supports gay marriage, that didn’t bother them. All they know is that the Bushes are on the “red team” and that they have to do whatever they can to defeat the evil Democrats on the “blue team”.

And in 2016, Jeb Bush will tout himself as a “conservative” once again despite his ultra-liberal stances on important conservative issues such as immigration. If he becomes president, he will probably fill up his cabinet with social liberals just like George W. Bush did, and everyone will still refer to him as a “conservative”.

How can people be so blind?

On Tuesday, Jeb Bush publicly announced that he plans to “actively explore” running for president.

In other words, he was sending a warning message to other potential Republican candidates that the “big dog” has arrived.

The following is the text of his announcement…

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah!

Like many of you, our family was blessed with the opportunity to gather together over the recent Thanksgiving holiday.

Columba and I are so proud of the wonderful adults our children have become, and we loved spending time with our three precious grandchildren.

We shared good food and watched a whole lot of football.

We also talked about the future of our nation. As a result of these conversations and thoughtful consideration of the kind of strong leadership I think America needs, I have decided to actively explore the possibility of running for President of the United States.

In January, I also plan to establish a Leadership PAC that will help me facilitate conversations with citizens across America to discuss the most critical challenges facing our exceptional nation. The PAC’s purpose will be to support leaders, ideas and policies that will expand opportunity and prosperity for all Americans.

In the coming months, I hope to visit with many of you and have a conversation about restoring the promise of America.

Best wishes to you and your families for a happy holiday season. I’ll be in touch soon.

Onward,

Jeb Bush

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Dec 20, 2014 00:32:01   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Bush vs. Clinton In 2016? New World Order Dream Matchup Being Touted As ‘Inevitable’

December 17, 2014 in News by Manny Quiroz

Source: End of the American Dream


The next presidential election is still nearly two years away, and yet the mainstream media is already telling Americans who they are supposed to vote for. Now that Jeb Bush has all but officially declared that he is running for president, a “dream matchup” between Bush and Hillary Clinton is being touted as “inevitable”. But is this what the American people actually want? Most liberals seem to truly dislike Clinton, and most conservatives can’t stand Bush at this point. And yet when the time comes, the big money donors will line up behind them and they will get far more media coverage than the other candidates. Yes, there is still a chance that another establishment candidate such as Mitt Romney could jump ahead of Bush on the Republican side, and there is also a chance that Hillary Clinton may decide not to run at all (more on that below). But when it is all said and done, it is virtually certain that Americans will have a choice between establishment candidate #1 and establishment candidate #2 on election day 2016, and that is absolutely sickening.

We have already had 20 years of Bush/Clinton, and if it is Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton in 2016 we will be guaranteed another four years.

The Bushes and Clintons are portrayed as “enemies” by the mainstream media, but that is not even close to the truth. The two families have a long, friendly relationship, they have taken vacations together, and they even publicly joke with each other over social media. The following is just one example that was recently highlighted in Time Magazine…

Former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton broadcast their unlikely bromance on social media Tuesday when Clinton posted a picture of himself reading Bush’s new book.

Clinton’s #HowAreYouStillNotOnTwitter hashtag is a reference to his President’s Day tweet this year, which ribbed the younger Bush for not having an account. This time, Bush responded. He posted Clinton’s tweet on Instagram with the caption, “Thanks, 42! Hope you like the book about your pal, #41. #HowAreYouSTILLNotOnInstagram #PresidentialGrammers #BrotherFromAnotherMother”.

And when it comes to politics, there is very little actually separating the two families on a practical basis. That is why it seemed like nothing really changed no matter who was in the White House. The truth is that the Bushes and the Clintons are both progressives that eagerly promote the globalist agenda of the New World Order elite.

But to this day, there are still many good conservatives that truly believe that George W. Bush is one of them. Even when Laura Bush went on national television and declared that she is solidly pro-choice and that she enthusiastically supports gay marriage, that didn’t bother them. All they know is that the Bushes are on the “red team” and that they have to do whatever they can to defeat the evil Democrats on the “blue team”.

And in 2016, Jeb Bush will tout himself as a “conservative” once again despite his ultra-liberal stances on important conservative issues such as immigration. If he becomes president, he will probably fill up his cabinet with social liberals just like George W. Bush did, and everyone will still refer to him as a “conservative”.

How can people be so blind?

On Tuesday, Jeb Bush publicly announced that he plans to “actively explore” running for president.

In other words, he was sending a warning message to other potential Republican candidates that the “big dog” has arrived.

The following is the text of his announcement…

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah!

Like many of you, our family was blessed with the opportunity to gather together over the recent Thanksgiving holiday.

Columba and I are so proud of the wonderful adults our children have become, and we loved spending time with our three precious grandchildren.

We shared good food and watched a whole lot of football.

We also talked about the future of our nation. As a result of these conversations and thoughtful consideration of the kind of strong leadership I think America needs, I have decided to actively explore the possibility of running for President of the United States.

In January, I also plan to establish a Leadership PAC that will help me facilitate conversations with citizens across America to discuss the most critical challenges facing our exceptional nation. The PAC’s purpose will be to support leaders, ideas and policies that will expand opportunity and prosperity for all Americans.

In the coming months, I hope to visit with many of you and have a conversation about restoring the promise of America.

Best wishes to you and your families for a happy holiday season. I’ll be in touch soon.

Onward,

Jeb Bush
Bush vs. Clinton In 2016? New World Order Dream Ma... (show quote)


God help us, or, since it's Jebbie Boy, Dios nos ayude.

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Dec 20, 2014 03:35:28   #
Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM
 
God help us is right. I just signed a petition asking Jeb Bush not to run for president. Of course, when it comes to the undercurrent of politics and the "powers that be" -- petitions of this nature often mean little.

Sure, I've seen plenty of photos of the so called "opposing candidates" hobnobbing and socializing together. And, it's a fact -- this they do. We need a real conservative, Bible-believing, Constitution believing, hard-hitting, flag-waving opponent to shove in Hillary's face. We need a true American patriot!

I remember a couple of true patriotic presidents in my lifetime. One was a Republican. He barely missed assassination. The other was a Democrat. He went against the system, too, and the mega-powers behind the government. It cost him his life.

"There's a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot." (President John F. Kennedy -- 7 days before his assassination.)

You can't always judge a book by it's cover, or a presidential candidate by the words that come out of his or her mouth. (Notice, I didn't say a thing about Obama and his twisted, distorted, deceptive message of "Hope and change!") Hopefully, we won't have to make a choice between Hillary Clinton, a true satanic, Islamic, and communist witch and Jeb Bush, another liberal professing to be a conservative!

Again, dear Lord, please help us. ((And, oh, by the way, we know that Hillary says little that can't be tracked to the Communist Manifesto, but did you know that Hillary converted to Islam? Or, at least, it certainly appears that way! http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hillary-clinton-converts-to-islam-to-run-for-presid... and http://godfatherpolitics.com/5866/hillary-clintons-connection-muslim-brotherhood/ THESE ARE MUST-READS!! And, pass it along. The Muslim Brotherhood appears to be a rebranding for ISIS in this country (?))

Let's do some more research on Jeb and his ulterior motives! What would be the underlying reasons that the Republican party would run him, if, indeed, they do?

At least, on the bottom line, we can thank God that only He knows the rest of the story!!!! And, that's all to His glory! Praise the Living God!

For God, country, and the future of our children, Shalom

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Dec 20, 2014 03:44:44   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Danielle wrote:
God help us is right. I just signed a petition asking Jeb Bush not to run for president. Of course, when it comes to the undercurrent of politics and the "powers that be" -- petitions of this nature often mean little.

Sure, I've seen plenty of photos of the so called "opposing candidates" hobnobbing and socializing together. And, it's a fact -- this they do. We need a real conservative, Bible-believing, Constitution believing, hard-hitting, flag-waving opponent to shove in Hillary's face. We need a true American patriot!

I remember a couple of true patriotic presidents in my lifetime. One was a Republican. He barely missed assassination. The other was a Democrat. He went against the system, too, and the mega-powers behind the government. It cost him his life.

"There's a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot." (President John F. Kennedy -- 7 days before his assassination.)

You can't always judge a book by it's cover, or a presidential candidate by the words that come out of his or her mouth. (Notice, I didn't say a thing about Obama and his twisted, distorted, deceptive message of "Hope and change!") Hopefully, we won't have to make a choice between Hillary Clinton, a true satanic, Islamic, and communist witch and Jeb Bush, another liberal professing to be a conservative!

Again, dear Lord, please help us. ((And, oh, by the way, we know that Hillary says little that can't be tracked to the Communist Manifesto, but did you know that Hillary converted to Islam? Or, at least, it certainly appears that way! http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hillary-clinton-converts-to-islam-to-run-for-presid... and http://godfatherpolitics.com/5866/hillary-clintons-connection-muslim-brotherhood/ THESE ARE MUST-READS!! And, pass it along. The Muslim Brotherhood appears to be a rebranding for ISIS in this country (?))

Let's do some more research on Jeb and his ulterior motives! What would be the underlying reasons that the Republican party would run him, if, indeed, they do?

At least, on the bottom line, we can thank God that only He knows the rest of the story!!!! And, that's all to His glory! Praise the Living God!

For God, country, and the future of our children, Shalom
God help us is right. I just signed a petition as... (show quote)


There is another political party in DC, called the "Establishment." It consists of putative Democrats and Republicans who are actually nothing but a cabal of Oligarchs. Senator Cruz called it right when he said that DC is like WWE Wrestling on TV, it is all scripted, choreographed for the audience, and the winners and losers are determined beforehand.

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Dec 20, 2014 04:17:46   #
Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM
 
Loki wrote:
There is another political party in DC, called the "Establishment." It consists of putative Democrats and Republicans who are actually nothing but a cabal of Oligarchs. Senator Cruz called it right when he said that DC is like WWE Wrestling on TV, it is all scripted, choreographed for the audience, and the winners and losers are determined beforehand.


Right on, Loki. This "Establishment," if I am remembering right, interlinks with groups such as the illuminati, Tri-lateral Banking Committee, and the other powerful forces behind our government. I agree with Ted Cruz. When I refer to "the powers that be" behind our government, I am referring to same.

My Dad, now a 94 yr. old World War II vet, was deeply interested in this type of thing all of his life. He tried to tell his co-workers, but although my Dad was exceptionally respected and well-liked in his workplace, they jokingly called him "Dr. Doom."

The angle that has been thrown into the pie over the last eight years that I wasn't expecting is this Islam thing. This is extremely serious and dangerous as Obama and his administration are heavily into Muslim resettlement camps all over this country as well as the Muslim Brotherhood. And, guess whose dollars are supporting all the freebies to them and the illegals? In fact, this even involves the Dept. of Homeland Security and Hillary Clinton.

Wonder what script they are writing for the next election?? It's such a hodge-podge of socialist, communist, and Islamic agenda at this point that this country is in serious trouble. Even the UN is tightly interwoven with Islam. The New World Order (alias UN) is stuck in every crack of this country along with their tanks and NATO troops.

Should I just say, good luck America? Better to say, God has the Master Plan for this country, Israel, the Middle East, and the rest of the planet. I just thank God that He is the Commander and Chief of His armies and His people. In God we trust. Be blessed. All we can do is pray for America and Israel, fight for our liberties, and "occupy" until the Lord returns.

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Dec 20, 2014 10:18:01   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
How both parties are controlled by the same group:
Some Council on Foreign Relation facts;
The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today,CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
This point is underscored a paragraph later on their web page: "Perhaps best known for the history-making "X" article by George Kennan, that defined Cold War containment policy, a recent Foreign Affairs article by Harvard's Samuel Huntington, "The Clash of Civilizations?" has already helped define the post-Cold War debate."
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:

Both Bushes - CFR,B (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB,2007 (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
Henry Kissinger - BB (R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC, BB
Ben Bernanke BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB
George Soros - CFR,BB
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR (D)
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
Robert Gates BB,CFR,TC (D




THE MEDIA:
George Will - CFR,TC (R)
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
John Bolton CFR (R)
Dick Morris (D&R)
Charles Krauthammer CFR
Doug Schoen CFR
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB

David Richmond Gergen - CNN SPINNER BB/CFR/TC/92
Robert B. Reich CFR

Brian Williams - CFR

In the News:
Haley Barbour CFR
Eric Holder CFR
Larry Summers CFR, BB
Janet Yellen CFR
Chuck Hagel CFR
Sylvia Burwell CFR/11
Jeh Charles Johnson CFR
Ashton Carter CFR/92

More Politicians:

Fred Thompson CFR (R)
Charles B. Rangel CFR (D)
Barney Frank CFR (D)

Richard Newton Gardner CFR/RS/TC/84
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (D) CFR/92
Sandra Day O'Connor (R) CFR/92
Danielle wrote:
God help us is right. I just signed a petition asking Jeb Bush not to run for president. Of course, when it comes to the undercurrent of politics and the "powers that be" -- petitions of this nature often mean little.

Sure, I've seen plenty of photos of the so called "opposing candidates" hobnobbing and socializing together. And, it's a fact -- this they do. We need a real conservative, Bible-believing, Constitution believing, hard-hitting, flag-waving opponent to shove in Hillary's face. We need a true American patriot!

I remember a couple of true patriotic presidents in my lifetime. One was a Republican. He barely missed assassination. The other was a Democrat. He went against the system, too, and the mega-powers behind the government. It cost him his life.

"There's a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot." (President John F. Kennedy -- 7 days before his assassination.)

You can't always judge a book by it's cover, or a presidential candidate by the words that come out of his or her mouth. (Notice, I didn't say a thing about Obama and his twisted, distorted, deceptive message of "Hope and change!") Hopefully, we won't have to make a choice between Hillary Clinton, a true satanic, Islamic, and communist witch and Jeb Bush, another liberal professing to be a conservative!

Again, dear Lord, please help us. ((And, oh, by the way, we know that Hillary says little that can't be tracked to the Communist Manifesto, but did you know that Hillary converted to Islam? Or, at least, it certainly appears that way! http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hillary-clinton-converts-to-islam-to-run-for-presid... and http://godfatherpolitics.com/5866/hillary-clintons-connection-muslim-brotherhood/ THESE ARE MUST-READS!! And, pass it along. The Muslim Brotherhood appears to be a rebranding for ISIS in this country (?))

Let's do some more research on Jeb and his ulterior motives! What would be the underlying reasons that the Republican party would run him, if, indeed, they do?

At least, on the bottom line, we can thank God that only He knows the rest of the story!!!! And, that's all to His glory! Praise the Living God!

For God, country, and the future of our children, Shalom
God help us is right. I just signed a petition as... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Dec 20, 2014 10:26:27   #
PeterS
 
Danielle wrote:
God help us is right. I just signed a petition asking Jeb Bush not to run for president. Of course, when it comes to the undercurrent of politics and the "powers that be" -- petitions of this nature often mean little.

Sure, I've seen plenty of photos of the so called "opposing candidates" hobnobbing and socializing together. And, it's a fact -- this they do. We need a real conservative, Bible-believing, Constitution believing, hard-hitting, flag-waving opponent to shove in Hillary's face. We need a true American patriot!

I remember a couple of true patriotic presidents in my lifetime. One was a Republican. He barely missed assassination. The other was a Democrat. He went against the system, too, and the mega-powers behind the government. It cost him his life.

"There's a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot." (President John F. Kennedy -- 7 days before his assassination.)

You can't always judge a book by it's cover, or a presidential candidate by the words that come out of his or her mouth. (Notice, I didn't say a thing about Obama and his twisted, distorted, deceptive message of "Hope and change!") Hopefully, we won't have to make a choice between Hillary Clinton, a true satanic, Islamic, and communist witch and Jeb Bush, another liberal professing to be a conservative!

Again, dear Lord, please help us. ((And, oh, by the way, we know that Hillary says little that can't be tracked to the Communist Manifesto, but did you know that Hillary converted to Islam? Or, at least, it certainly appears that way! http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hillary-clinton-converts-to-islam-to-run-for-presid... and http://godfatherpolitics.com/5866/hillary-clintons-connection-muslim-brotherhood/ THESE ARE MUST-READS!! And, pass it along. The Muslim Brotherhood appears to be a rebranding for ISIS in this country (?))

Let's do some more research on Jeb and his ulterior motives! What would be the underlying reasons that the Republican party would run him, if, indeed, they do?

At least, on the bottom line, we can thank God that only He knows the rest of the story!!!! And, that's all to His glory! Praise the Living God!

For God, country, and the future of our children, Shalom
God help us is right. I just signed a petition as... (show quote)

Oh he thinks all petitions are evil liberal conspiracies. If you would vote for his father, his even dumber brother, you are just going to love voting for him!!

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Dec 20, 2014 10:38:15   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
That about sums it up. I think we B in deep Doo-Doo.
PeterS wrote:
Oh he thinks all petitions are evil liberal conspiracies. If you would vote for his father, his even dumber brother, you are just going to love voting for him!!

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Dec 20, 2014 11:49:14   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
eagleye13 wrote:
That about sums it up. I think we B in deep Doo-Doo.


I would not even hire members of the same family to work at the restaurant I managed. I certainly would not hire another Bush, or Clinton, or Kennedy for that matter. Some of these oranizations can be very patriotic, at least temporarily while it suits their purposes, but they don't make a habit of it.

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Dec 20, 2014 21:44:44   #
mongo Loc: TEXAS
 
Danielle wrote:
God help us is right. I just signed a petition asking Jeb Bush not to run for president. Of course, when it comes to the undercurrent of politics and the "powers that be" -- petitions of this nature often mean little.

Sure, I've seen plenty of photos of the so called "opposing candidates" hobnobbing and socializing together. And, it's a fact -- this they do. We need a real conservative, Bible-believing, Constitution believing, hard-hitting, flag-waving opponent to shove in Hillary's face. We need a true American patriot!

I remember a couple of true patriotic presidents in my lifetime. One was a Republican. He barely missed assassination. The other was a Democrat. He went against the system, too, and the mega-powers behind the government. It cost him his life.

"There's a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot." (President John F. Kennedy -- 7 days before his assassination.)

You can't always judge a book by it's cover, or a presidential candidate by the words that come out of his or her mouth. (Notice, I didn't say a thing about Obama and his twisted, distorted, deceptive message of "Hope and change!") Hopefully, we won't have to make a choice between Hillary Clinton, a true satanic, Islamic, and communist witch and Jeb Bush, another liberal professing to be a conservative!

Again, dear Lord, please help us. ((And, oh, by the way, we know that Hillary says little that can't be tracked to the Communist Manifesto, but did you know that Hillary converted to Islam? Or, at least, it certainly appears that way! http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/hillary-clinton-converts-to-islam-to-run-for-presid... and http://godfatherpolitics.com/5866/hillary-clintons-connection-muslim-brotherhood/ THESE ARE MUST-READS!! And, pass it along. The Muslim Brotherhood appears to be a rebranding for ISIS in this country (?))

Let's do some more research on Jeb and his ulterior motives! What would be the underlying reasons that the Republican party would run him, if, indeed, they do?

At least, on the bottom line, we can thank God that only He knows the rest of the story!!!! And, that's all to His glory! Praise the Living God!

For God, country, and the future of our children, Shalom
God help us is right. I just signed a petition as... (show quote)


Something you may take note of, our votes don't count. The gang of politicians have been deciding who will be on the ballot for quite a long time. When you vote it seems the same trash appears as a candidate. Even if you have the choice of writing a candidate in, who else will do the same? People are lazy and will choose from the offered POS. They seem to vote for the name that is most familiar, and bypass the ones that have the most to offer. Very few delve into the candidates murky past. If they did, they would be depressed by the choices offered.

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Dec 21, 2014 03:25:15   #
Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM
 
mongo wrote:
Something you may take note of, our votes don't count. The gang of politicians have been deciding who will be on the ballot for quite a long time. When you vote it seems the same trash appears as a candidate. Even if you have the choice of writing a candidate in, who else will do the same? People are lazy and will choose from the offered POS. They seem to vote for the name that is most familiar, and bypass the ones that have the most to offer. Very few delve into the candidates murky past. If they did, they would be depressed by the choices offered.
Something you may take note of, our votes don't co... (show quote)


Agreed, and it's depressing. The powers that be write the scripts, put in the candidates they want, and either way they come out winning! If it swings in the way they would rather it not go, they rig the ballot boxes.

Write-in's, however, don't do any good either. I would rather vote for porky pig than either Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush, and I don't even eat pork! But, when you consider that write-in's further divide the votes ... how do we win in the game of THE GOVERNMENT ALWAYS WINS AND AMERICANS ARE ALWAYS THE LOSERS? (Well, at least us Americans who love God and our country, wave our flags and fight for our freedoms.)

Thankfully, the Lord God Almighty has the victory for all who believe in Him and love Him. Beam me up, Scotty, or better put: come quickly, Lord Jesus!

God bless you. Shalom.

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Dec 21, 2014 03:44:59   #
Danielle Loc: Las Cruces, NM
 
eagleye13 wrote:
How both parties are controlled by the same group:
Some Council on Foreign Relation facts;
The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today,CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
This point is underscored a paragraph later on their web page: "Perhaps best known for the history-making "X" article by George Kennan, that defined Cold War containment policy, a recent Foreign Affairs article by Harvard's Samuel Huntington, "The Clash of Civilizations?" has already helped define the post-Cold War debate."
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly transmit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red flags for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
A few more notables in Both Parties Serving Bilderberger’s CFR/TC/BB AGENDA:

Both Bushes - CFR,B (R)
Both Clintons - CFR,TC,B (D)
Jimmy Carter - CFR,TC (D)
Obama & Biden - CFR (D
Dick Cheney - CFR,TC (R)
Newt Gingrich - CFR (R)
Mitch McConnell - CFR (R)
Rick Perry - BB,2007 (D&R)
John Kerry CFR (D)
John McCain - CFR (R)
Zbig Brzezinski - TC, BB (D)
Henry Kissinger - BB (R) Paul Volker- CFR,TC,BB (D) Alan Greenspan CFR,TC, BB
Ben Bernanke BB
Tim Geithner - CFR,TC BB
David Rockefeller CFR,TC,BB
George Soros - CFR,BB
Albert Gore, Jr. CFR (D)
Donald Rumsfeld CFR ,BB(R)
Jacob “Jack” Lew CFR (D)
Robert Gates BB,CFR,TC (D




THE MEDIA:
George Will - CFR,TC (R)
George Stephanopoulos
CFR, BB (D)
William Kristol BB (R) William Buckley Jr. CFR,BB (R)
Tom Brokaw CFR
FOX owner
Rupert Murdock – CFR, BB
FOX SPINNERS
John Bolton CFR (R)
Dick Morris (D&R)
Charles Krauthammer CFR
Doug Schoen CFR
Washington Post owner
Katherine Graham CFR,TC,BB

David Richmond Gergen - CNN SPINNER BB/CFR/TC/92
Robert B. Reich CFR

Brian Williams - CFR

In the News:
Haley Barbour CFR
Eric Holder CFR
Larry Summers CFR, BB
Janet Yellen CFR
Chuck Hagel CFR
Sylvia Burwell CFR/11
Jeh Charles Johnson CFR
Ashton Carter CFR/92

More Politicians:

Fred Thompson CFR (R)
Charles B. Rangel CFR (D)
Barney Frank CFR (D)

Richard Newton Gardner CFR/RS/TC/84
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (D) CFR/92
Sandra Day O'Connor (R) CFR/92


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Thanks for the reply and added info. My Dad was always into tracking this kind of stuff, but at age 94, he no longer follows it like he used to. Unfortunately, my father has developed some degree of dementia although he is still pretty darn coherent and never fails to thank me for coming to see him, bringing him things, and taking him out and about when I can.

Reviewing the list, I was aware of many of these names (Obama, Biden, Bush, Gore, George Soros, etc). Bolton -- not surprised, despite his big conservative front. Surprised, though, to find Rick Perry's name there, especially after he has confronted Obama himself on the illegal amnesty and open border issues and even called out the Texas National Guard and citizen's patrols on the border in Texas. Never know who is who these days unless you really check it out.

Jeh Johnson -- he's a real piece of work. In a recent e-mail I received from a very reliable source:

"Did you know Department of Homeland Security Secretary, Jeh Johnson, CIA Director John Brennan, and Sec. of Defense Chuck Hagel, are all believed to be Muslim converts working with the Muslim Brotherhood, as well as Obama advisor, Valerie Jarrett, born a Muslim in Iran and lived there for the first five years of her life. ...

"Did you know the UN is directing the Mid East Muslim invasion to states of the UN's choice, under the direction of the Hillary Clinton/John Kerry State Department, DHS's Jeh Johnson and HHS secretary, Kathleen Sibelius?..."

What a horrible mess we are in -- God truly is our only hope and salvation. He has the Master Plan and the ultimate victory for all of His people.

God bless you. Thanks for your reply. Shalom

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Dec 21, 2014 05:53:03   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Danielle wrote:
Thanks for the reply and added info. My Dad was always into tracking this kind of stuff, but at age 94, he no longer follows it like he used to. Unfortunately, my father has developed some degree of dementia although he is still pretty darn coherent and never fails to thank me for coming to see him, bringing him things, and taking him out and about when I can.

Reviewing the list, I was aware of many of these names (Obama, Biden, Bush, Gore, George Soros, etc). Bolton -- not surprised, despite his big conservative front. Surprised, though, to find Rick Perry's name there, especially after he has confronted Obama himself on the illegal amnesty and open border issues and even called out the Texas National Guard and citizen's patrols on the border in Texas. Never know who is who these days unless you really check it out.

Jeh Johnson -- he's a real piece of work. In a recent e-mail I received from a very reliable source:

"Did you know Department of Homeland Security Secretary, Jeh Johnson, CIA Director John Brennan, and Sec. of Defense Chuck Hagel, are all believed to be Muslim converts working with the Muslim Brotherhood, as well as Obama advisor, Valerie Jarrett, born a Muslim in Iran and lived there for the first five years of her life. ...

"Did you know the UN is directing the Mid East Muslim invasion to states of the UN's choice, under the direction of the Hillary Clinton/John Kerry State Department, DHS's Jeh Johnson and HHS secretary, Kathleen Sibelius?..."

What a horrible mess we are in -- God truly is our only hope and salvation. He has the Master Plan and the ultimate victory for all of His people.

God bless you. Thanks for your reply. Shalom
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I do not believe that most of these people are practicing Muslims. Most people in positions of power use one religion or another as window dressing. I think they are mostly atheists posing as devout something or other, cynics to whom religion is like a suit, just something to enhance whatever impression they are wishful of projecting.

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Dec 21, 2014 09:39:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Good point; We have Satanists/Luciferians using atheists and self serving dupes hiding behind banners. IMO - Religion has been bastardized by the Great Deceiver. That goes for Christianity, Muhammadism/Moslems, and Judaism. False wicked doctrines; used to create chaos and animosity. Zionism for short.
Loki wrote:
I do not believe that most of these people are practicing Muslims. Most people in positions of power use one religion or another as window dressing. I think they are mostly atheists posing as devout something or other, cynics to whom religion is like a suit, just something to enhance whatever impression they are wishful of projecting.

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Dec 21, 2014 09:42:37   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Yep; you have figuredit out
Danielle wrote:
Agreed, and it's depressing. The powers that be write the scripts, put in the candidates they want, and either way they come out winning! If it swings in the way they would rather it not go, they rig the ballot boxes.

Write-in's, however, don't do any good either. I would rather vote for porky pig than either Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush, and I don't even eat pork! But, when you consider that write-in's further divide the votes ... how do we win in the game of THE GOVERNMENT ALWAYS WINS AND AMERICANS ARE ALWAYS THE LOSERS? (Well, at least us Americans who love God and our country, wave our flags and fight for our freedoms.)

Thankfully, the Lord God Almighty has the victory for all who believe in Him and love Him. Beam me up, Scotty, or better put: come quickly, Lord Jesus!

God bless you. Shalom.
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