separation of church and state: Could someone please show me where this is mentioned in the Constitution? I couldn't find it. Here is a copy of our Constitution. Have at it.

Grugore

Could someone please show me where this is mentioned in the Constitution? I couldn't find it.

Here is a copy of our Constitution. Have at it.

http://www.franklincountypa.gov/da/Documents/US%20Constitution.pdf

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Grugore wrote:

Could someone please show me where this is mentioned in the Constitution? I couldn't find it.

Here is a copy of our Constitution. Have at it.

http://www.franklincountypa.gov/da/Documents/US%20Constitution.pdf

The libs don't seem to understand that it isn't. Every time I've brought it up all I get are lame arguments like "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." implies separation of church and state.

maureenthannon

It's not in the Constitution. It was in a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to a church. He wasn't telling the church to keep out of the states business, he was promising the church that the state wouldn't try to control the church.

dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)

"That doesn't fit the agenda. We WANT it to say church and state are always to be kept separate. Period."

Grugore

dennisimoto wrote:

"That doesn't fit the agenda. We WANT it to say church and state are always to be kept separate. Period."

It's an attack on religion, plain and simple. And it's only going to get worse. We're living in the last days, people. Can there be any doubt?

grace scott

mwdegutis wrote:

The libs don't seem to understand that it isn't. Every time I've brought it up all I get are lame arguments like "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." implies separation of church and state.

To me, this means that the government has to keep it's nose out of the business of the church, but the church is free to meddle into government business.

If this is true, why did our government object to a Mormon having more than one wife?

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

grace scott wrote:

To me, this means that the government has to keep it's nose out of the business of the church, but the church is free to meddle into government business.

If this is true, why did our government object to a Mormon having more than one wife?

What I believe "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." means is that Congress cannot make laws establishing a state religion (such as making Catholicism the official religion of the US) or prohibiting the free exercise of ones religious beliefs.

Grugore

mwdegutis wrote:

What I believe "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." means that Congress cannot make laws establishing a state religion (such as making Catholicism the official religion of the US) or prohibiting the free exercise of ones religious beliefs.

That's exactly what it says.

Common Sense Rebel

grace scott wrote:

To me, this means that the government has to keep it's nose out of the business of the church, but the church is free to meddle into government business.

If this is true, why did our government object to a Mormon having more than one wife?

At the time there was no law regarding plural marriage. This was the Governments way of trying to control The Mormons.

Grugore

Common Sense Rebel wrote:

At the time there was no law regarding plural marriage. This was the Governments way of trying to control The Mormons.

There are some good reasons, besides religious or political ones, to oppose polygamy. Just off the top of my head, I can see someone being irate because he can't find a wife. His neighbor snagged them all.

Common Sense Rebel

Grugore wrote:

There are some good reasons, besides religious or political ones, to oppose polygamy. Just off the top of my head, I can see someone being irate because he can't find a wife. His neighbor snagged them all.

I can't handle more than one at a time!

grace scott

Grugore wrote:

There are some good reasons, besides religious or political ones, to oppose polygamy. Just off the top of my head, I can see someone being irate because he can't find a wife. His neighbor snagged them all.

He also has the privilege of more than one mother-in-law.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Common Sense Rebel wrote:

I can't handle more than one at a time!

Why would you want to piss off another one?

WhosetheBoss Loc: Arkansas

Grugore wrote:

Could someone please show me where this is mentioned in the Constitution? I couldn't find it.

Here is a copy of our Constitution. Have at it.

http://www.franklincountypa.gov/da/Documents/US%20Constitution.pdf

Its not in the constitution!!!

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2010/10/1920/

Grugore

Common Sense Rebel wrote:

I can't handle more than one at a time!

My hat's off to the man who can.