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Query: Does God embrace hatred?
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Jun 13, 2023 21:59:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
I have my own opinion...
But I'm curious what others think...
Thanks...

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Jun 13, 2023 22:28:21   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I have my own opinion...
But I'm curious what others think...
Thanks...


Psalms 139:21-22
Yes.
In order to be just, God has given us free will. He’s long suffering, because we NEED Him to be. There’s lots of forgiving that we cannot do without His help.
Hatred is just another thing of the world.

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Jun 13, 2023 22:39:29   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I have my own opinion...
But I'm curious what others think...
Thanks...

That would be a flaw and God is perfect. So no.

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Jun 14, 2023 00:21:14   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
RascalRiley wrote:
That would be a flaw and God is perfect. So no.


You better pray that your god (little g), doesn’t reincarnate your new being into an unborn baby of a woman who supports abortion.
What do you know about the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?

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Jun 14, 2023 08:36:47   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
You better pray that your god (little g), doesn’t reincarnate your new being into an unborn baby of a woman who supports abortion.
What do you know about the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob?

If I happen to reincarnate into a woman who choose to abort no big deal. The being or soul does not die.

It probably would not have been a good situation. So win win.

What do I know about the Abrahamic religions?

I was indoctrinated from the time I was a child until I came of age in the fables. My parents were lay pastors, our life revolved around church.

And the Bible states that life enters and leaves the body through the breath. In with your very first breath, out with your very last.

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Jun 14, 2023 10:01:44   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
RascalRiley wrote:
If I happen to reincarnate into a woman who choose to abort no big deal. The being or soul does not die.

It probably would not have been a good situation. So win win.

What do I know about the Abrahamic religions?

I was indoctrinated from the time I was a child until I came of age in the fables. My parents were lay pastors, our life revolved around church.

And the Bible states that life enters and leaves the body through the breath. In with your very first breath, out with your very last.
If I happen to reincarnate into a woman who choose... (show quote)

You’re wrong about the breath part. God/pre-incarnate Jesus breathed into Adam, giving him “life”. The rest of us are begun at conception.
That life never ends, you’re either with God after earthly life, or not!

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Jun 14, 2023 10:22:06   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
You’re wrong about the breath part. God/pre-incarnate Jesus breathed into Adam, giving him “life”. The rest of us are begun at conception.
That life never ends, you’re either with God after earthly life, or not!

You sound so certain about something you could not possibly know.

What you believe does not make what I believe wrong.

You could be right but the premise that human existence on earth started with Adam 6,000 years ago is a belief, not a fact.

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Jun 14, 2023 17:27:25   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I have my own opinion...
But I'm curious what others think...
Thanks...

EMBRA´CE: To seize eagerly; to lay hold on; to receive or take with willingness that which is offered; as, to embrace the christian religion; to embrace the opportunity of doing a favor.

HA´TRED, n. Great dislike or aversion; hate; enmity. Hatred is an aversion to evil, and may spring from utter disapprobation, as the hatred of vice or meanness; or it may spring from offenses or injuries done by fellow men, or from envy or jealousy, in which case it is usually accompanied with malevolence or malignity. Extreme hatred is abhorrence or detestation.

Noah Webster’s First Edition of An American Dictionary of the English Language, 1828

Your question is does God embrace hatred?

IOW, according to Daniel Webster, does God have enmity or an aversion or an abhorrence or detestation towards evil?

I think that the answer is self-explanatory.

The Lord approves of the godly, but he hates the wicked and those who love to do violence. Psalm 11:5

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Jun 14, 2023 17:54:43   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
RascalRiley wrote:
You sound so certain about something you could not possibly know.

What you believe does not make what I believe wrong.

You could be right but the premise that human existence on earth started with Adam 6,000 years ago is a belief, not a fact.

I didn’t say anything about 6000 years.
The Bible makes what you believe wrong.

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Jun 14, 2023 18:13:13   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
I didn’t say anything about 6000 years.
The Bible makes what you believe wrong.

Adam was, according to the Bible created about 6,000 years ago.

The Old Testament is a collection of fables.

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Jun 14, 2023 18:23:20   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Adam was, according to the Bible created about 6,000 years ago.

The Old Testament is a collection of fables.


Dead Sea scrolls prove you wrong!

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Jun 14, 2023 18:27:25   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Adam was, according to the Bible created about 6,000 years ago.

The Old Testament is a collection of fables.

Let's see...

According to the Bible, Adam was created about 6,000 years ago.

Therefore...

The Old Testament is a collection of fables.

Helluva a conclusion.

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Jun 14, 2023 18:44:48   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
Dead Sea scrolls prove you wrong!


The Dead Sea scrolls prove you wrong!

The Dead Sea scrolls are ancient. Science proves me right. God gave us choice of what to trust.

Bible thumpers believe that all of humanity originated from Noah, that God stopped the sun from rotating around Earth for a battle to be won. That difference in language was a result of a tower being built and those that do not believe this will burn for eternity.

Science has not found a soul or proven reincarnation so neither of us knows.

We have a choice in what to believe but we do not know.

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Jun 14, 2023 19:13:13   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
RascalRiley wrote:
The Dead Sea scrolls prove you wrong!

The Dead Sea scrolls are ancient. Science proves me right. God gave us choice of what to trust.

Bible thumpers believe that all of humanity originated from Noah, that God stopped the sun from rotating around Earth for a battle to be won. That difference in language was a result of a tower being built and those that do not believe this will burn for eternity.

Science has not found a soul or proven reincarnation so neither of us knows.

We have a choice in what to believe but we do not know.
i The Dead Sea scrolls prove you wrong! /i br ... (show quote)

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Romans 1:18-20

Do you know what that means?! YOU ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE!

Human history began with man knowing God. Human history is not the story of a beast that worshiped idols, and then evolved into a man worshiping one God. Human history is just the opposite: man began knowing God, but turned from the truth and rejected God. God revealed Himself to man through creation, the things that He made. From the world around him, man knew that there was a God who had the wisdom to plan and the power to create. Man realized too that this Creator was eternal... " his eternal power and divine nature" (Romans 1:20), since God could not be created if He is the Creator. These facts about God are not hidden in creation; they are "clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse" (Romans 1:20). "The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. (Psalm 19:1).

Men know the truth about God, but they do not allow this truth to work in their lives. They suppress it in order that they might live their own lives and not be convicted by God's truth. The result, of course, is refusing the truth (Romans 1:21-22), and then turning the truth into a lie (Romans 1:25). Finally, man so abandons the truth that he becomes like a beast in his thinking and in his living.

And this is what you’ve become Reilly…

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools. Romans 1:21-22

You’re a fool Reilly.

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Jun 14, 2023 19:21:33   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Parky60 wrote:
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. Romans 1:18-20

Do you know what that means?! YOU ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE!

Human history began with man knowing God. Human history is not the story of a beast that worshiped idols, and then evolved into a man worshiping one God. Human history is just the opposite: man began knowing God, but turned from the truth and rejected God. God revealed Himself to man through creation, the things that He made. From the world around him, man knew that there was a God who had the wisdom to plan and the power to create. Man realized too that this Creator was eternal... " his eternal power and divine nature" (Romans 1:20), since God could not be created if He is the Creator. These facts about God are not hidden in creation; they are "clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse" (Romans 1:20). "The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. (Psalm 19:1).

Men know the truth about God, but they do not allow this truth to work in their lives. They suppress it in order that they might live their own lives and not be convicted by God's truth. The result, of course, is refusing the truth (Romans 1:21-22), and then turning the truth into a lie (Romans 1:25). Finally, man so abandons the truth that he becomes like a beast in his thinking and in his living.

And this is what you’ve become Reilly…

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools. Romans 1:21-22

You’re a fool Reilly.
i The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven... (show quote)

You’re a fool Reilly
Says he who believes in a man made God.
Who is the fool?

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