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Jun 20, 2023 20:39:25   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
whole2th wrote:
I’ve not yet seen a debunking of the U of AL—Fairbanks engineering department computer modeling study of Building 7. Perhaps your insight into kitchen gas lines would overturn this engineering study (not).

Did you watch the Bollyn presentation about ideation, motive, means, opportunity and execution of 911 that identified a “Judean” nexus of players and statecraft? Barrett%2C%20Gage%2C%20Bollyn%202017%20“The%20War%20On%20Islam”%20HD.mp4?dl=0

Radiance slings arrows with no substance. My replies to belief are in kind.
I’ve not yet seen a debunking of the U of AL—Fairb... (show quote)


I have seen numerous videos on a myriad of conspiracy theories with unfounded science about the physical structure of the WTC, planted bombs, Jews as patsies, and raw stupidity by OPP posters such as yourself. The entire acreage of the WTC is lined with underground gas pipes serving the numerous buildings - hotels, shopping center and CIA tower inside building 7. And, of course, there are gas pipes running up the elevator shafts against city building codes. Had you looked at maps of the WTC you would have concluded the obvious cause of the pancaking floors in the Twin Towers and smaller tower of building 7.

Everyone recognizes your unfounded claims as sponsored by a leftwing media coverup. Do not take New Yorkers for fools. You continue to post your venom against Jews, free men and free markets while we simple people post the facts which you continually take no heed. Did you look up my books on the '9/11 Commission Report' with its diagrams and maps or read 'Vigilance' by NYPD Commission, Ray Kelly? Of course not. That's because you are knee deep in meadow muffins and have no interest in "the whole truth."

There is nothing the Democrats love more than destroying our economy and dividing our country, pitting the public into fighting over the last scraps. But you don't want evidence and common sense!

Again, I say, bye bye. Don't waste my time.

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Jun 20, 2023 21:21:19   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
keepuphope wrote:
As it is for us who believe it is a moral sin against God that gay and trans issues are being shoved on our kids from kindergarten up the sexual topic and deviance at such an age when they don't need to be thinking of such things only grown ups can truely assess. But your guys don't care about our morals.


Oh for flux sakes !

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Jun 20, 2023 21:25:33   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
He loves the person and wants them to change, but that does not mean he will tolerate a chosen lifestyle he condemns.


Now you’re just making chit up again!

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Jun 20, 2023 21:26:48   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Good Idea!
We were focusing on Christianity's reaction to illegal immigration and Whole2th butted in with discrediting the Jews for all the worlds problems, sidetracking the debate.

I'm just pissed off enough to take this troller down and off OPP, his claims are unfounded from nonsense, garbage sources pulled off the Internet that hold no credibility that need challenging. Most of the hate crimes in America are against the Jews in New York City, a tragedy that needs debate and censoring by the rest of the posters on OPP since they will not shut this charade down. Whole2th has picked on the wrong poster with his hatred since I am well informed on the 9/11 attack, having researched it well in advance.

Keepuphope, I understand your frustration. It is time to put Whole2th on OPP's censor list.
Good Idea! br We were focusing on Christianity's ... (show quote)



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Nov 8, 2023 14:55:30   #
kittibob
 
MatthewlovesAyn wrote:
Ironic that you would say that, being that JFK was the one that put us the closest to nuclear war.


That would be Nikita Kruschev who put us close to nuclear war. JFK saved us from nuclear destruction when he negotiated with Kruschev to remove them. You must have skipped that chapter. I shudder when I wonder what would have happened then had some knucklehead like Trump had been President.

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Nov 8, 2023 15:08:13   #
kittibob
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
What they’re doing in the USA is not going to end well for them. We are a strong Christian nation


The United States is not and has never been a Christian nation. The author of the Declaration of Independence was not a Christian and neither were many of his co-founders.

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Nov 8, 2023 15:32:17   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kittibob wrote:
The United States is not and has never been a Christian nation. The author of the Declaration of Independence was not a Christian and neither were many of his co-founders.

Statements From Founding Fathers and Early Statesmen on Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible
"The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man. The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He [God] has taken care to impress His precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses. I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others. I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ.
Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence


Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States
How The Bible Inspired The American Founding From The Beginning
The Bible in American Schools - 1700 to 1900
Oorah! "Days of Elijah" sung by US Marines

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Nov 8, 2023 15:51:54   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Statements From Founding Fathers and Early Statesmen on Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible
"The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man. The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He [God] has taken care to impress His precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses. I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others. I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ.
Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence


Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States
How The Bible Inspired The American Founding From The Beginning
The Bible in American Schools - 1700 to 1900
Oorah! "Days of Elijah" sung by US Marines
url=https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-jes... (show quote)


Their stupidly is astounding sometimes isn't it. They just keep one upping themselves with it.

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Nov 8, 2023 17:04:17   #
kittibob
 
keepuphope wrote:
Their stupidly is astounding sometimes isn't it. They just keep one upping themselves with it.


Not so fast Einstein. Jefferson was a Deist when he wrote the Declaration of Independence and when the colonies became an independent nation. Years later he began studying the teachings of Jesus. He was very impressed with the teachings of Jesus and the way he lived his life. I'm not sure of the definition of a Christian or whether the definition has changed over the centuries but Jefferson never believed in the resurrection. Nor do I.
Your friend Trump is neither religious or patriotic. He just loves Trump.

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Nov 8, 2023 17:18:17   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
kittibob wrote:
Not so fast Einstein. Jefferson was a Deist when he wrote the Declaration of Independence and when the colonies became an independent nation. Years later he began studying the teachings of Jesus. He was very impressed with the teachings of Jesus and the way he lived his life. I'm not sure of the definition of a Christian or whether the definition has changed over the centuries but Jefferson never believed in the resurrection. Nor do I.
Your friend Trump is neither religious or patriotic. He just loves Trump.
Not so fast Einstein. Jefferson was a Deist when ... (show quote)


Not so fast kitty. Blade was proving a point that you just admitted in the first part of your post to me. He was impressed with Jesus way he lived His life and thought to enshrine them in our constitution. Our faith is built on Jesus ways and thinking so was our country. This has nothing to do with the part where salvation thru repentance of sin is. So you are wrong America was founded on Christian PRINCIPLES.

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Nov 8, 2023 17:48:05   #
kittibob
 
keepuphope wrote:
Not so fast kitty. Blade was proving a point that you just admitted in the first part of your post to me. He was impressed with Jesus way he lived His life and thought to enshrine them in our constitution. Our faith is built on Jesus ways and thinking so was our country. This has nothing to do with the part where salvation thru repentance of sin is. So you are wrong America was founded on Christian PRINCIPLES.

You seem to have missed this part:
"Years later" he began studying the teachings of Jesus

None of this matters, however as the United States is what it is, and most of us on both sides view it as the greatest country in history. In my view the biggest threat to the nation and democracy is Donald Trump. Many of us have known of his corruptness for decades. Evidence is everywhere. Trump supporters either don't see it or don't believe it.

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Nov 8, 2023 19:36:16   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
kittibob wrote:
You seem to have missed this part:
"Years later" he began studying the teachings of Jesus

None of this matters, however as the United States is what it is, and most of us on both sides view it as the greatest country in history. In my view the biggest threat to the nation and democracy is Donald Trump. Many of us have known of his corruptness for decades. Evidence is everywhere. Trump supporters either don't see it or don't believe it.



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Nov 8, 2023 19:50:50   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Statements From Founding Fathers and Early Statesmen on Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible
"The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man. The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He [God] has taken care to impress His precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses. I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others. I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ.
Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence


Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States
How The Bible Inspired The American Founding From The Beginning
The Bible in American Schools - 1700 to 1900
Oorah! "Days of Elijah" sung by US Marines
url=https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-jes... (show quote)


Rewriting history doesn’t make it true.
And here are the two things our founders did not want anywhere near government .
Corporate Power
And
Religion .
Their fears of these two were that power over time would be taken away from the People .
Right they were , as it turns out our two worst
Enemy’s of the power of the Propje are
Corporations ( citizens united )
And
Religion .
Butting heads with fools who now want to claim the nation as a Christian Entity. Not because they believe in Christianity, but because it suits their militant argument of supremacy . Of course you know Christian’s are the Chosen people. , right ?
It is not .
It never was was .
And if the Constitution can be upheld ,
Never will be.
Religion has no place in Govt.
Other than being protected as a personal choice.
Taking power from the people is not actually a choice of the people , it suits the needs of taking power from the propje favoring Corporate enterprise
Who believe everything in this country is a hindrance to their making any profit at all .
Corporate hates religion .
And religion hates corporate.
Two entities that should never be arguing with Govt representation.

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Nov 8, 2023 20:08:48   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
I have seen numerous videos on a myriad of conspiracy theories with unfounded science about the physical structure of the WTC, planted bombs, Jews as patsies, and raw stupidity by OPP posters such as yourself. The entire acreage of the WTC is lined with underground gas pipes serving the numerous buildings - hotels, shopping center and CIA tower inside building 7. And, of course, there are gas pipes running up the elevator shafts against city building codes. Had you looked at maps of the WTC you would have concluded the obvious cause of the pancaking floors in the Twin Towers and smaller tower of building 7.

Everyone recognizes your unfounded claims as sponsored by a leftwing media coverup. Do not take New Yorkers for fools. You continue to post your venom against Jews, free men and free markets while we simple people post the facts which you continually take no heed. Did you look up my books on the '9/11 Commission Report' with its diagrams and maps or read 'Vigilance' by NYPD Commission, Ray Kelly? Of course not. That's because you are knee deep in meadow muffins and have no interest in "the whole truth."

There is nothing the Democrats love more than destroying our economy and dividing our country, pitting the public into fighting over the last scraps. But you don't want evidence and common sense!

Again, I say, bye bye. Don't waste my time.
I have seen numerous videos on a myriad of conspir... (show quote)


Well said ,
Stupid but well said.
Gas may have played a role in 9/11.
I say it was the massive demolition explosives and Thermite.
Buildings that size inflated with gas would’ve cleared and razed a 3 mile area ,
These explosions were contained .
Even building 7 went down after being grazed with a piece of aircraft metal .
Nobody talks about the gold in the World Bank .
Being secretly hauled out in dump trucks
4 floors down .

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Nov 8, 2023 20:41:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
kittibob wrote:
You seem to have missed this part:
"Years later" he began studying the teachings of Jesus

None of this matters, however as the United States is what it is, and most of us on both sides view it as the greatest country in history. In my view the biggest threat to the nation and democracy is Donald Trump. Many of us have known of his corruptness for decades. Evidence is everywhere. Trump supporters either don't see it or don't believe it.
CNN poll: Trump Widens Lead over Biden
CNN: Trump leads Biden in 4 key swing states
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CNN poll shows Trump is in a league of his own as GOP primary hits fall sprint
CBS: Trump maintains dominant lead among 2024 Republican candidates
NBC polls show Trump with commanding lead in 2024 GOP race
CNN: Trump leads in polls, money – and understanding the delegate race

Article IV, Section 4, US Constitution
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.







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