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Jun 9, 2013 13:25:31   #
russ1945
 
In light of all the breaches and scandals surrounding Obama and his administration it appears to me that something simply does not make sense. Is all this breach of privacy about finding the truth. Sure they are using national security as the lever but nothing has stopped them from targeting the Tea Party except the fact that they got caught. There are certain things that fall into categories of "need to know" from a government view point. But what about the view point of the general public, specifically the voter.

As a gesture to open everything up why doesn't Obama unlock all the mysteries from his past. From the BC to who paid for his higher education etc. Does not the average citizen have as much right for transparency from a POTUS who promised just that. We have a need to know, in fact we have a right to know.

You lead by example and Obama just doesn't care. If he cared and had nothing to hide he could silence the naysayers once and for all by laying his hidden past out there for all to see. Kind of clear the air so to speak. What better time than right now. Everyone has something they don't want everyone else to know but the POTUS has to have a higher bar. He has lead from behind up to now, way behind as a matter of fact, but he could do lot to unlock his past and allow it to be scrutinzed.

Only Obama has the key to unlock his past. His desire to hide the parts of his past that people question flies in the face of what is going on now in his administration. How does all that relate to national security. Well we won't know until we know what he is hiding. No POTUS has ever gone to such lengths to keep the voting public from knowing key things that point to character. If you are not honest with the citizens then you should not be digging into their emails and texts in light of the fact that members of your administration use secret emails. There is give and take and then there is just plain take. Does this really make sense.

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Jun 9, 2013 13:43:18   #
mikeytike
 
obamas administration is nothing but take.

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Jun 9, 2013 14:25:28   #
Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts
 
russ1945 wrote:
In light of all the breaches and scandals surrounding Obama and his administration it appears to me that something simply does not make sense. Is all this breach of privacy about finding the truth. Sure they are using national security as the lever but nothing has stopped them from targeting the Tea Party except the fact that they got caught. There are certain things that fall into categories of "need to know" from a government view point. But what about the view point of the general public, specifically the voter.

As a gesture to open everything up why doesn't Obama unlock all the mysteries from his past. From the BC to who paid for his higher education etc. Does not the average citizen have as much right for transparency from a POTUS who promised just that. We have a need to know, in fact we have a right to know.

You lead by example and Obama just doesn't care. If he cared and had nothing to hide he could silence the naysayers once and for all by laying his hidden past out there for all to see. Kind of clear the air so to speak. What better time than right now. Everyone has something they don't want everyone else to know but the POTUS has to have a higher bar. He has lead from behind up to now, way behind as a matter of fact, but he could do lot to unlock his past and allow it to be scrutinzed.

Only Obama has the key to unlock his past. His desire to hide the parts of his past that people question flies in the face of what is going on now in his administration. How does all that relate to national security. Well we won't know until we know what he is hiding. No POTUS has ever gone to such lengths to keep the voting public from knowing key things that point to character. If you are not honest with the citizens then you should not be digging into their emails and texts in light of the fact that members of your administration use secret emails. There is give and take and then there is just plain take. Does this really make sense.
In light of all the breaches and scandals surround... (show quote)


It does make sense,and welcome to 1PP. Ill let your post be handled by a few others on here that would be more adept at providing the answers you seek.



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Jun 9, 2013 16:08:33   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
russ1945 wrote:
In light of all the breaches and scandals surrounding Obama and his administration it appears to me that something simply does not make sense. Is all this breach of privacy about finding the truth. Sure they are using national security as the lever but nothing has stopped them from targeting the Tea Party except the fact that they got caught. There are certain things that fall into categories of "need to know" from a government view point. But what about the view point of the general public, specifically the voter.

As a gesture to open everything up why doesn't Obama unlock all the mysteries from his past. From the BC to who paid for his higher education etc. Does not the average citizen have as much right for transparency from a POTUS who promised just that. We have a need to know, in fact we have a right to know.

You lead by example and Obama just doesn't care. If he cared and had nothing to hide he could silence the naysayers once and for all by laying his hidden past out there for all to see. Kind of clear the air so to speak. What better time than right now. Everyone has something they don't want everyone else to know but the POTUS has to have a higher bar. He has lead from behind up to now, way behind as a matter of fact, but he could do lot to unlock his past and allow it to be scrutinzed.

Only Obama has the key to unlock his past. His desire to hide the parts of his past that people question flies in the face of what is going on now in his administration. How does all that relate to national security. Well we won't know until we know what he is hiding. No POTUS has ever gone to such lengths to keep the voting public from knowing key things that point to character. If you are not honest with the citizens then you should not be digging into their emails and texts in light of the fact that members of your administration use secret emails. There is give and take and then there is just plain take. Does this really make sense.
In light of all the breaches and scandals surround... (show quote)


For most of the people who accept what he has given in his two books as all we need to know it appears that we know all we need to know about him. Of course, some of the things his supposed self-authored books tell us leave a lot to be learned and he isn't about to tell us any of that. It has been rumored, and I believe that rumor that one of those books was written by Bill Ayers and that would tell a lot about why it appears to be a bit less than truthful about his past. I have never even thought about reading either of those books because progs have been quite willing to tell me what is in them.

The most interesting thing about all of this story is that it stopped before his adult life began and usually that is an important part of a President's life. For instance, there is nothing there about him and the New Party in Chicago. There is nothing about where he began his political life so we just have to guess it was in the home of Bill Ayers. There is nothing about Obama and Ayers working for the Ammenberg Foundation although they worked closely together for some time. He says they didn't have any time together but we know better than that. There is nothing in his books about his time as a community organizer or working as a lawyer for ACORN. There is nothing that tells anything about who paid for his time at Columbia or how he got in Harvard.

There is enough that we don't know, for sure, about his past that wouldn't make a very full book but I am pretty sure he isn't ever going to release his BC, his enrollment forms at Occidental, or anything about what he did for money at Columbia or Harvard. I have never seen anything from he or his people that refutes what we think we know about how he got into Harvard or who paid for him. They keep saying that he borrowed on student loans but I just don't believe that. One of the "best" of his stories about his days at Harvard has to do with the fact that as the President of the Harvard Law Review he did something that not one head of that thing ever did. That would be that he wrote exactly nothing in the way of case reviews or anything else. He wrote nothing, at all.

Maybe this will bring in some of our progressives to make loud prog noises about Obama's past and how much I have said that was completely wrong. However, they can't prove any of that so they will probably let it ride.

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Jun 9, 2013 16:24:16   #
usmc4
 
Worried for our children wrote:
It does make sense,and welcome to 1PP. Ill let your post be handled by a few others on here that would be more adept at providing the answers you seek.




His minders are more than likely infuriated that he and/or his administration haven't been able to contain all these scandals that just keep on coming and coming. Their time-table has been set back and if he's impeached or it's proven that he is not a U.S. citizen, they'll have to start all over. I firmly believe that if the American people, through the many organizations that are standing up against these abusive scandals weren't there to challenge this administration, we'd be nearer to the United Nations Agenda 21. The United States of America needs to permanently leave the UN and demand the UN to relocate to some other country. IE: Iran, Syria, North Korea or some other country they can insult as they've done to US. LOL to the last sentence.

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Jun 9, 2013 16:30:21   #
russ1945
 
oldroy: People like us are labeled by liberal Obama supportors as being conspiracy theory advocates. All we are is curious. I am leary of anyone who has no curiosity.

You are right, the self serving narrative penned by Obama (Ayres) stops right when your curiosity gets peaked. It is bad enough to connect the dots back to Chicago but I recently ran onto an article by Steven Baldwin (The Western Center for Journalism) entitled "Obama surrounds himself with the most extreme appointees in American history." I do not know how to post a link but you can google it up easily. It is shocking to view the list of appointees.

Being new to this forum I am guided mostly by my curiosity and not by staunch political beliefs. I am not a registered republican simply a basic conservative who believes a nation should live within it's means. My curiosity lead me to research Obama's past after he was elected the first time. I was shocked. When you view his agenda it is just more dots to connect and they all head back to Chicago. It is sad but true.

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Jun 9, 2013 16:31:44   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
usmc4 wrote:
His minders are more than likely infuriated that he and/or his administration haven't been able to contain all these scandals that just keep on coming and coming. Their time-table has been set back and if he's impeached or it's proven that he is not a U.S. citizen, they'll have to start all over. I firmly believe that if the American people, through the many organizations that are standing up against these abusive scandals weren't there to challenge this administration, we'd be nearer to the United Nations Agenda 21. The United States of America needs to permanently leave the UN and demand the UN to relocate to some other country. IE: Iran, Syria, North Korea or some other country they can insult as they've done to US. LOL to the last sentence.
His minders are more than likely infuriated that h... (show quote)


You know, I keep wondering if some of these scandals haven't been aimed at hiding the coverup they ran for Benghazi and a couple of others. How much do we ever see in the MSM about Benghazi? They have tried to get it forgotten by the general population and it is so obvious they have a reason for that along with wanting to keep Fast and Furious covered up, also. Those two events were the death of Obama but they managed, with the help of the MSM to cover them up and now few people even give them a thought.

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Jun 9, 2013 17:47:51   #
usmc4
 
oldroy wrote:
You know, I keep wondering if some of these scandals haven't been aimed at hiding the coverup they ran for Benghazi and a couple of others. How much do we ever see in the MSM about Benghazi? They have tried to get it forgotten by the general population and it is so obvious they have a reason for that along with wanting to keep Fast and Furious covered up, also. Those two events were the death of Obama but they managed, with the help of the MSM to cover them up and now few people even give them a thought.
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As I stated in previous posts, the Sgt. Major and his 700 Special Ops people are not going to let Benghazi be forgotten.

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Jun 9, 2013 18:15:57   #
russ1945
 
oldroy wrote:
You know, I keep wondering if some of these scandals haven't been aimed at hiding the coverup they ran for Benghazi and a couple of others. How much do we ever see in the MSM about Benghazi? They have tried to get it forgotten by the general population and it is so obvious they have a reason for that along with wanting to keep Fast and Furious covered up, also. Those two events were the death of Obama but they managed, with the help of the MSM to cover them up and now few people even give them a thought.
You know, I keep wondering if some of these scanda... (show quote)


They wish that thet were in that kind of control but it is the exact opposite. Fast and Furious was all about the 2nd amendment and went over most peoples heads. Benghazi may be more complicated but more people died. Not sending any help sent a message to the American public not to mention the military. That is simply not the American way.

What saved Obama's bacon was the reelection process. The lid was going to blow on his regime it was just lost in the shuffle for a while. After the election it all came to light. I say all, I really think there is more to come. An administration gone wild is what it boiled down to.

But you are right, the lame stream media is the biggest obstacle to truth we are now facing. Thank goodness for Fox and Breitbart etc. Their persistence in these matters finally got some momentum. I also think the Boston bombing brought a lot of people back to reality. All of this is happening right under this administrations noses. They were more concerned with targeting tea party people then they were on following up on Russia warning us about the bombers.

It is an old adage but this administration may be the best example ever of "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts abolutely."

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Jun 10, 2013 05:55:23   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
There is a lot to this administration that we don't know. Obama simply couldn't get elected to be the President of the U.S. based on his past experience as a "community organizer" and a few months as a senator. There are many, many people "behind the screen" that made this happen. He does not govern based on his "experience", he governs based on whatever his handlers tell him to do. He is like a king that is made king while still a small boy, he does what he is told to do by those that control him. I still believe that Biden was selected as Vice President so that people would be more afraid of kicking Obama out of office because Biden would be even worse as our leader. There is a group of very rich and influential people that are manipulating the mainstream media and this administration in order to cause unrest and keep people focused on things that have nothing to do with the agenda of this group. And the unfortunate thing about this is that it's working.

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Jun 10, 2013 08:56:27   #
russ1945
 
Well the whistleblowers are beginning to step forward. This will happen more and more. This is what happens when you have big government gone wild. Not everyone drinks the koolaid.

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Jun 10, 2013 11:24:46   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
oldroy wrote:
You know, I keep wondering if some of these scandals haven't been aimed at hiding the coverup they ran for Benghazi and a couple of others. How much do we ever see in the MSM about Benghazi? They have tried to get it forgotten by the general population and it is so obvious they have a reason for that along with wanting to keep Fast and Furious covered up, also. Those two events were the death of Obama but they managed, with the help of the MSM to cover them up and now few people even give them a thought.
You know, I keep wondering if some of these scanda... (show quote)


I have thought all along there has been too much attention paid to the emails after the fact and no attention to why they attacked, and it WAS NOT because of a video they had never seen

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Jun 10, 2013 11:34:20   #
russ1945
 
I still say Obama should release the documents he is blocking having to do with himself (BC, who paid for his education, etc) in light of this invasion of privacy and targting the tea party. He is the ultimate hypocrite if he does not do so. If everything is on the up and up he could just release it all and move on. That is unless there is something he does not want us to see.

You see that is the key, he does not want us to see certain things about him yet he does not have a problem having access to more of our info than we want him or some curious member of his administration to see. Does he have something to hide, if not he should come forward with the info. If not then leave us alone.

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Jun 10, 2013 11:42:10   #
rumitoid
 
Every comment about Obama by conservatives lavishes hyberbole. "The most corrupt president in history." The worst this or the least that. It is hate, pure and simple.

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Jun 10, 2013 11:49:26   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
rumitoid wrote:
Every comment about Obama by conservatives lavishes hyberbole. "The most corrupt president in history." The worst this or the least that. It is hate, pure and simple.


Do you find this different than what liberals had to say about Bush?

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