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The Free Dictionary defines a "Party caucus" as:
1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy)
a. a closed meeting of the members of one party in a legislative chamber, etc, to coordinate policy, choose candidates, etc.

We citizens need to take control of this process, right from the start. This is where we are failing in the election process of nominating our Party's presidential candidates.

How do we get more people involved?

For example, the same people who put Barak Obama on the ticket also put Mitt Romney on the ticket:
Big Labor, who were guaranteed to seize General Motors under either candidate.

Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico

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Big money will always get their way. Joe Blow off the street will never get the opportunity to be even invited to a Party Caucus. It's only for the elite.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

GM--disgusting words to me..Take all that money and then hi-tail it out of the country to Mexico and China to build multi -million plants to sell their product there..Fine, just keep their product there, don't look to ship it back here for purchase...

True story~~have a friend that was so angry over that bail out he walked into a local GM dealer declaring since he saved their ass, (with his tax dollars) he was there to pick up a few cars as collateral until their debt was paid...Pointed out 3 on the show room floor and said here's my address, deliver them in the next 3 days ok....I know he did it, I was with him...He's an atty. and we were there to depose a representative about a lemon law violation..Needless to say the rest of the meeting was rather curt....But I couldn't help but laugh at his humor sanding in the main lobby making that statement in the presents of "potential buyers"..Never forgot it either...

MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach

The elite were the "in crowd" before the tea party in Boston. Mom 8052, I agree with you about the average Joe sixpack never having their voice heard. We the people do have a choice, but we have to be united as one. Not the whole nation as the liberals think you can rationalize with narcissistic people. But enough to make a stand. And it's coming. Never thought I'd see the country I love being ruined by people calling themselves Americans. Ma'am, good post.

faded red Loc: south florida

big business,big oil, big shots are the only people who will have a chance. they'll squash any joe the plumber candidates.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Just think One World Order, Agenda 21 and the Illuminate and you have your answer~~~

They are the "comptroller oh, sorry controller" of what is in motion, period~~..

Liberty Tree

I was once a delegate to a GOP state convention to pick a candidate to run for Senator. The delegates selected a candidate that the elite RINOS who ran the party did not like. They ran their own candidate which split the vote and led to a Democrat victory. They would rather have had a Democrat than a true conservative, Constitutional Republican.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Exactly~~

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Let me ask you something....did you pull up to the dealership with a Ramcharger or Honda Civic? Both of these companies were bailed out by their respective governments. The fact of the matter is that numerous suppliers would have been put out of business-if the bailout didn't happen. What about the war effort during WWII, who do you think made tanks (GM), the planes (Ford Aerospace) and the Jeeps (Chrysler)? The only car companies that haven't been bailed out by government are either out of business (Desoto, American Motors, Studebaker) or get bailed out.

What about the unpaid debt Europe owes us for saving civilisation? How many men and women were mobilized to save the world-over 4 million people....and hundreds of them died...never getting to hear a thank you from France, England, Italy and Spain. Why aren't we screaming for the cash we are owed?

And further: Why are we "bailing out" all seniors? Why are we "bailing out" infrastructure. Why do taxpayers have to pay for stadiums, prop up petty regimes, such as Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan to name a few. Why do we allow businesses to outsource work to India, Mexico, Romania and Turkey to name a few. How many jobs and debt are created from that? TRILLIONS.

MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach

Liberty Tree, I can't stand a RINO. They're as dangerous to America as liberals. What happened in your selection process was, sour grapes from the RINO's. Lindsey Graham, John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and John McCain just to name a few need to be shown the door. Career politicians are in it for 'themselves. As a member of the Tea Party I'm for smaller government, government getting rid of all the regulations that keep a boot on small businesses and for the government telling me my policy isn't good enough. I'm not rich by any means but I'll GIVE you the shirt off my back if you need it. I don't need the government TELLING me to give it. Give em an inch and they want two, give em a rope and they want to be a cowboy. Enough is enough.

Liberty Tree

That is why I have been saying that

That is why I have been saying that with the current GOP leadership in Congress people should not expect big changes. Too many of them are RINOS and have no backbone to go with it.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I would agree....political gaming...will outweigh a brute force approach.

I have actually proposed to friends to start a betting racket issuing odds on outcomes in a numbers racket. What do ya' think of that?

Liberty Tree

I would bet against expecting major deviations from the current path until the bottom drops out and the public realizes they have beem gamed.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Morning dummyBoy~~ No I didn't, but not a bad idea~~ ;-)

A lot more than what you've said takes place in bailouts and rescue mission all for the purpose of maintaining jobs, if you believe that~~Economy, yes, but job and growth for this country, not so much~~

Government (s) face hard decisions in these situations. They have a responsibility to ensure the continued survival of the economy, and this indicates that they should have the responsibility of bailing out companies. On the other hand, if they continually bail out companies, it encourages these companies and banks to deliberately take stupid risks that jeopardize the health of the economy as they know that the government will help them,later..And as we have seen how many times now?? The government therefore is between a rock and a hard place in this situation. It has a responsibility to help, but not to help too much so that such companies and banks remain accountable for the situation in which they find themselves.

Supply will always meet demand..... Always...... Period....... If there is no demand for something, it doesn't matter how much money you waste throwing at something to make more of what people do not want. I understand if the first time you help bailout,it instills confidence and returns the market, which then generates demand, but we do need to identify where there is no turning back....And I do believe we don't need to be throwing more of our hard earned dollars in the toilet..If these companies want to maintain, then be responsible for their spending habits just as citizens are..


A few cites to visit, should you wish~~

http://projects.propublica.org/bailout/list


http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/storysupplement/bankbailout/


http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-governments-step-in-to-bail-out-private-companies-that-are-close-to-failing


and of course no one see BO's Healthcare as an Insurance company bailout~~but

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-stop-the-bailout-now/2014/01/02/6b3087a2-73d7-11e3-8def-a33011492df2_story.html

As for world wide bail outs between countries..To call in the debt between each would certainly mean world wide collapse and that will never take place..Think One World Order, Agenda 21 and the Illuminate~~

Gotta run, have a great day~~

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

...so akin to bailouts in general, your point, the collapse of GM would have meant the collapse the US economy...it would have imploded other businesses that are dependent on Automotive. The content of vehicles assembled by Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, and Toyota have far greater US content than most US manufacturers...same argument. The Lincoln towncar at one time was considered an important. Maybe you and your boyfriend should have looked at the content and where the parts come from at the dealership. It's provided right on the sticker. (see below)

Let's just shut it all down and live off the land?

Also, if you ACTUALLY believe in Agenda 21, Illiminate conspiracy wouldn't it have made more sense to allow society to collapse financially? Making humankind ripe for world government? But wait, then by helping companies, people get to keep their jobs and pay taxes to the government, which is part of Agenda 21, which....circular logic or none. Yea, none: again, your fantasy takeover makes no sense.

When does too much or too little debt become meaningful? Relative to who, or what financial entity? Japan has ridiculous amounts of debt, but their older folks are comfortable....gotta appreciate that.

Is the US economy really improving or is just everyone else's economy is getting worse?

Finally, opinions by losers (or noted cites [sic] not sites?) make not a hill beans. Opinions don't pull any strings but sure get people worked up about things they can't change.

I'm an an example of a loonie that listens to loonies


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