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Feb 10, 2023 10:56:49   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Jesus was apolitical. Get a grip.


Apolitical ?
What was it that got him killed ?

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Feb 10, 2023 12:44:47   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Cops are restrained from seeing color...


Well, which is it?

These are the types of voices I was referring to, namely, MSM propaganda…

“5 Black Memphis Cops Upheld Institutional And Cultural Racism In Fatal Attack Of Tyre Nichols…
“Institutional racism explains how five Black men could engage in police brutality, leading to the death of another Black man. They participated in the same trainings as white cops…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaunharper/2023/01/27/5-black-memphis-cops-upheld-institutional-and-cultural-racism-in-tyre-nichols-murder/?sh=a8f3c8b220af

“How the officers' race will influence protesters in the streets – and any future jury in the courtroom – remains to be seen. But experts, activists and attorneys told USA TODAY that the race of the officers involved is far less important than the race of the victim. They say a "historically biased culture of policing" puts Black people at risk regardless of an officer's race.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/01/28/tyre-nichols-death-black-police-officers/11136520002/

But you just said “cops are restrained from seeing color” which would clearly rule out systemic, institutional, and cultural racism.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t keep your story straight because you are lying. You say cops “ are restrained from seeing color...” on one hand and on the other hand support the narrative that they are trained to see color.

That is clear as day!

Therefore, it is no wonder you don’t understand conservatives exposing these lies.
These are the types of lies that you are listening to, and propagating, and acting like they are true, and acting like they put you on a higher moral ground than those who see through your “emperor’s new clothes” so to speak. You are just deceived…like that emperor in that fairy tale.
The very fact that you don’t understand is what I am pointing out so that those who are not so far gone in their confirmation bias can see how ludicrous and confused you sound.

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Feb 10, 2023 13:10:15   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Well, which is it?

These are the types of voices I was referring to, namely, MSM propaganda…

“5 Black Memphis Cops Upheld Institutional And Cultural Racism In Fatal Attack Of Tyre Nichols…
“Institutional racism explains how five Black men could engage in police brutality, leading to the death of another Black man. They participated in the same trainings as white cops…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaunharper/2023/01/27/5-black-memphis-cops-upheld-institutional-and-cultural-racism-in-tyre-nichols-murder/?sh=a8f3c8b220af

“How the officers' race will influence protesters in the streets – and any future jury in the courtroom – remains to be seen. But experts, activists and attorneys told USA TODAY that the race of the officers involved is far less important than the race of the victim. They say a "historically biased culture of policing" puts Black people at risk regardless of an officer's race.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/01/28/tyre-nichols-death-black-police-officers/11136520002/

But you just said “cops are restrained from seeing color” which would clearly rule out systemic, institutional, and cultural racism.

You can’t have it both ways. You can’t keep your story straight because you are lying. You say cops “ are restrained from seeing color...” on one hand and on the other hand support the narrative that they are trained to see color.

That is clear as day!

Therefore, it is no wonder you don’t understand conservatives exposing these lies.
These are the types of lies that you are listening to, and propagating, and acting like they are true, and acting like they put you on a higher moral ground than those who see through your “emperor’s new clothes” so to speak. You are just deceived…like that emperor in that fairy tale.
The very fact that you don’t understand is what I am pointing out so that those who are not so far gone in their confirmation bias can see how ludicrous and confused you sound.
Well, which is it? br br These are the types of v... (show quote)


A general note to the discussion: just think what the news would look like if the MSM were to categorize this as “black-on-black” crime (instead of “institutional racism”) and report on how high the statistics are of “black-on-black” crime. “Maybe” that would be a better explanation of the high rate of certain altercations with law enforcement.

Perhaps then we could honestly look at real solutions based on the actual problems, like the absence of fathers in the homes and the fact that unwed mothers are financially benefited by not being married exacerbating the problem of fatherless homes. These are probably the two biggest factors that contribute to the high rate of crime among certain “demographics”.

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Feb 10, 2023 14:38:06   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Milosia2 wrote:

…What was it that got him killed ?


What got Jesus killed was the Father’s love for you to restore you back to the Father from the lies you’ve been deceived by, which you believed and caused you thereby to commit sin against the Father’s love.

“ for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God.” Romans 3:23

But the Father's love for you is greater than he who deceived you, and therefore…

“14As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only born Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 17For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him.” John 3:14-17

Rom. 5:18: “So then as through one transgression there resulted judgment toward all men, even so through one act of justice there resulted the just pronouncement of life to all men” (MLT).

1 Cor. 15:22–23: “For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own order...”

“ 29Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold, or silver, or stone, engraved by art and design of man. 30The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent, 31because he has appointed a day in which he will judge the world in righteousness by the man whom he has ordained; of which he has given assurance to all men, in that he has raised him from the dead.” acts 17:29-31

“ 1Now I declare to you, brothers, the Good News [gospel] which I preached to you, which also you received, in which you also stand, 2by which also you are saved, if you hold firmly the word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. 3For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures.” 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

So your answer is that what got Jesus killed was the Father’s love for you. It may have outwardly appeared to be because of those he angered, but that was just the devil playing into God’s hands…

Jesus said, “17Therefore the Father loves me, because I lay down my life, that I may take it again. 18No one takes it away from me, but I lay it down by myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. I received this commandment from my Father.” John 10:17-18

“ 6We speak wisdom, however, among those who are full grown, yet a wisdom not of this world nor of the rulers of this world who are coming to nothing. 7But we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the wisdom that has been hidden, which God foreordained before the worlds for our glory, 8which none of the rulers of this world has known. For had they known it, they wouldn’t have crucified the Lord of glory.” 1 Corinthians 2:6-8

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Feb 10, 2023 14:38:50   #
EmilyD
 
TommyRadd wrote:
I have another question for you Milosia, which I don’t expect you’ll answer this one either, (honestly at least)…

Were the “voices” who told you those black cops “were not black cops” (which were allegedly in some way related to white supremacy) the same “voices” that told you that “Every shooter who killed en masse… was in some way related to a White Supremacy order”???

Bonus points: Do all those “voices” ascribe to the same political ”order”, the Democrat Party?


Here's another question for her: Do those "voices" sound a lot like CNN, MSNBC, ABC and NBC??

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Feb 10, 2023 14:40:55   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
EmilyD wrote:
Here's another question for her: Do those "voices" sound a lot like CNN, MSNBC, ABC and NBC??


Very astute of you. that was exactly what I was alluding to. But you knew that.

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Feb 10, 2023 14:50:42   #
EmilyD
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Cops are restrained from seeing color.
So , chances are they would’ve beat up a white too.
Blue on Black.
Blue on White
Blue represents their institution .
The head of that institution is who should be explaining .
They were acting under the color of ….Blue.
Anything else takes the pressure off the institution .
To assume they were rogue cops keeps the pressure on the cops.
And not the Blue Police Force.


So if they are a black cop, they are white by default because they are blue.....got it.
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