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Dec 9, 2022 15:18:31   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Griner happens to be the most innocent of those locked up in Russia.


And particularly politically advantageous to Biden; gay, same sex married, pot smoker, famale, black. You name it, all his big talking points!

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Dec 9, 2022 15:47:03   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
As usual moldy you only post memes that you think proves your point but leave out the intent .

As far as you praise of Biden is pure laughable .


Trump administration agreement with the Taliban happened in 2020

Sure it unpopular but the intent was to stop the war .

Same as Biden's stupid pullout that was an embarrassing feat and leaving all that high dollar equipment and personnel behind which clearly show Biden's incompetency .

I'd had no problem with Biden if he'd pullout all the people that needed to be evacuated while removing all the high tech equip and then pulled out our troops .

As it turned out it was disastrous

A Feb. 29, 2020, agreement between the United States and the Taliban said that the U.S. and its allies would withdraw their military forces within 14 months of the agreement’s announcement. The deal said that the Taliban would not allow groups, including al-Qaida, in Afghanistan to threaten the security of the United States and its allies. It also called for negotiations between the Taliban and the Afghan government, starting March 10, 2020.

The agreement said the U.S. would work with all relevant sides on a plan to release "combat and political prisoners."

According to the agreement, up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners and up to 1,000 prisoners "of the other side" would be released by a specified timeline. "The United States commits to completing this goal," the deal said, adding that the Taliban also committed to keeping its released prisoners from posing a threat to the security of the United States and its allies.

Mike Pompeo, Trump’s secretary of state, said on Feb. 29, 2020, that the agreement "entails a promise from the Taliban that terrorists can never again operate from Afghan soil."

By August 2020, news reports said that the Afghan government, which was not a signatory in the Taliban-U.S. deal, had released 4,600 Taliban prisoners after pressure from the Trump administration. Afghan officials considered the release of 400 other prisoners problematic because they had committed major crimes, Voice of America reported.

"We acknowledge that the release of these prisoners is unpopular," Pompeo said Aug. 6. "But this difficult action will lead to an important result long sought by Afghans and Afghanistan’s friends: reduction of violence and direct talks resulting in a peace agreement and an end to the war."
Former Afghanistan president signed decree releasing 400 prisoners

Afghanistan’s president, Ashraf Ghani, ultimately signed a decree to release the remaining 400 prisoners.

On Aug. 14, 2020, Ghani said that the release of the final 400 prisoners, who were "convicted of serious crimes, including the killing of Afghans and citizens of the international community," was a difficult issue that required consulting with leaders from all provinces of Afghanistan.

"They decided to approve the release of the prisoners, and the next day I signed the order," Ghani said. "It was the Afghan people’s latest, and boldest, risk for peace."

In September 2020, U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation Zalmay Khalilzad said that the prisoners held by the Afghan government included some who had committed violence against international forces in Afghanistan. "I know that none of us are happy about the release of prisoners that committed violence against our forces, but we want to keep the big picture in mind, unhappy as we are," Khalilzad said.

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Dec 9, 2022 15:53:56   #
moldyoldy
 
4430 wrote:
As usual moldy you only post memes that you think proves your point but leave out the intent .

As far as you praise of Biden is pure laughable .


Trump administration agreement with the Taliban happened in 2020

Sure it unpopular but the intent was to stop the war .

Same as Biden's stupid pullout that was an embarrassing feat and leaving all that high dollar equipment and personnel behind which clearly show Biden's incompetency .

I'd had no problem with Biden if he'd pullout all the people that needed to be evacuated while removing all the high tech equip and then pulled out our troops .

As it turned out it was disastrous

A Feb. 29, 2020, agreement between the United States and the Taliban said that the U.S. and its allies would withdraw their military forces within 14 months of the agreement’s announcement. The deal said that the Taliban would not allow groups, including al-Qaida, in Afghanistan to threaten the security of the United States and its allies. It also called for negotiations between the Taliban and the Afghan government, starting March 10, 2020.

The agreement said the U.S. would work with all relevant sides on a plan to release "combat and political prisoners."

According to the agreement, up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners and up to 1,000 prisoners "of the other side" would be released by a specified timeline. "The United States commits to completing this goal," the deal said, adding that the Taliban also committed to keeping its released prisoners from posing a threat to the security of the United States and its allies.

Mike Pompeo, Trump’s secretary of state, said on Feb. 29, 2020, that the agreement "entails a promise from the Taliban that terrorists can never again operate from Afghan soil."

By August 2020, news reports said that the Afghan government, which was not a signatory in the Taliban-U.S. deal, had released 4,600 Taliban prisoners after pressure from the Trump administration. Afghan officials considered the release of 400 other prisoners problematic because they had committed major crimes, Voice of America reported.

"We acknowledge that the release of these prisoners is unpopular," Pompeo said Aug. 6. "But this difficult action will lead to an important result long sought by Afghans and Afghanistan’s friends: reduction of violence and direct talks resulting in a peace agreement and an end to the war."
Former Afghanistan president signed decree releasing 400 prisoners

Afghanistan’s president, Ashraf Ghani, ultimately signed a decree to release the remaining 400 prisoners.

On Aug. 14, 2020, Ghani said that the release of the final 400 prisoners, who were "convicted of serious crimes, including the killing of Afghans and citizens of the international community," was a difficult issue that required consulting with leaders from all provinces of Afghanistan.

"They decided to approve the release of the prisoners, and the next day I signed the order," Ghani said. "It was the Afghan people’s latest, and boldest, risk for peace."

In September 2020, U.S. Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation Zalmay Khalilzad said that the prisoners held by the Afghan government included some who had committed violence against international forces in Afghanistan. "I know that none of us are happy about the release of prisoners that committed violence against our forces, but we want to keep the big picture in mind, unhappy as we are," Khalilzad said.
As usual moldy you only post memes that you think ... (show quote)




The great deal maker negotiated the terms of the withdrawal, not Biden.

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Dec 9, 2022 16:12:31   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The great deal maker negotiated the terms of the withdrawal, not Biden.


He said that.

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Dec 9, 2022 16:25:58   #
EmilyD
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The great deal maker negotiated the terms of the withdrawal, not Biden.

The great deal maker had a workable arrangement with the Taliban and a scheduled withdrawal that guaranteed no one would die, and any Americans that wanted to leave had plenty of time to do so before he made his move. Biden completely ignored Trump's carefully negotiated arrangement and got 13 people killed unnecessarily and left thousands more on their own to get themselves out of the country or die!

The great puppet-in-chief that cheated his way into the White House flopped on his face once again, and you cheer that!

What does that make you??????

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Dec 9, 2022 16:37:35   #
Rose42
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The great deal maker negotiated the terms of the withdrawal, not Biden.


Biden had months to plan and still screwed it up royally. There’s no ‘but trump…’ out of that one.

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Dec 9, 2022 17:41:22   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
EmilyD wrote:
The great deal maker had a workable arrangement with the Taliban and a scheduled withdrawal that guaranteed no one would die, and any Americans that wanted to leave had plenty of time to do so before he made his move. Biden completely ignored Trump's carefully negotiated arrangement and got 13 people killed unnecessarily and left thousands more on their own to get themselves out of the country or die!

The great puppet-in-chief that cheated his way into the White House flopped on his face once again, and you cheer that!

What does that make you??????
The great deal maker had a workable arrangement wi... (show quote)


emily, none of that crap you were told by trump toadies is at all true.. just more orange lies..



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Dec 9, 2022 18:27:10   #
EmilyD
 
permafrost wrote:
emily, none of that crap you were told by trump toadies is at all true.. just more orange lies..

permafrost, yes it is. It is all true. The deadline was May 1. There was an evacuation plan that was to be put in place after the election, and Trump was in the MIDDLE - not the end - of negotiating when Biden's puppet masters stole his second term from him. Biden changed the whole plan.....and then blamed Trump and everybody else for his F*CKUP.

Tell me....how many BILLIONS did Biden "donate" to the Taliban in weapons???? He single-handedly re-started the badly deflated Taliban, gave them new blood....the traitor!

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Dec 9, 2022 18:57:15   #
moldyoldy
 
EmilyD wrote:
The great deal maker had a workable arrangement with the Taliban and a scheduled withdrawal that guaranteed no one would die, and any Americans that wanted to leave had plenty of time to do so before he made his move. Biden completely ignored Trump's carefully negotiated arrangement and got 13 people killed unnecessarily and left thousands more on their own to get themselves out of the country or die!

The great puppet-in-chief that cheated his way into the White House flopped on his face once again, and you cheer that!

What does that make you??????
The great deal maker had a workable arrangement wi... (show quote)



Following the Afghan peace process, the Trump administration and Taliban signed the Doha Agreement in February 2020. Accordingly, the US agreed to withdraw all US forces from Afghanistan by 1 May 2021.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
2021 Kabul airlift - Wikipedia

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Dec 9, 2022 19:05:46   #
moldyoldy
 
EmilyD wrote:
permafrost, yes it is. It is all true. The deadline was May 1. There was an evacuation plan that was to be put in place after the election, and Trump was in the MIDDLE - not the end - of negotiating when Biden's puppet masters stole his second term from him. Biden changed the whole plan.....and then blamed Trump and everybody else for his F*CKUP.

Tell me....how many BILLIONS did Biden "donate" to the Taliban in weapons???? He single-handedly re-started the badly deflated Taliban, gave them new blood....the traitor!
permafrost, yes it is. It is all true. The deadlin... (show quote)




https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

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Dec 9, 2022 19:16:06   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
EmilyD wrote:
permafrost, yes it is. It is all true. The deadline was May 1. There was an evacuation plan that was to be put in place after the election, and Trump was in the MIDDLE - not the end - of negotiating when Biden's puppet masters stole his second term from him. Biden changed the whole plan.....and then blamed Trump and everybody else for his F*CKUP.

Tell me....how many BILLIONS did Biden "donate" to the Taliban in weapons???? He single-handedly re-started the badly deflated Taliban, gave them new blood....the traitor!
permafrost, yes it is. It is all true. The deadlin... (show quote)


You have been jaded forever by the orange calf you set up... we, the USA,, did no ever give weapons to the Taliban the material was abandoned by the Pagans who ran after the first shoot.. and only the big lie still tries to put any substance to the election being won by the orange criminal.. the crazy fool who directed his most foolish cult members to attack and murder our government.. it is beyond comprehension how any normal person could be persuaded by a conman to swallow such lies and risk of they have to enable a common criminal..

And you must know the truth, it was trump who released the 1000s of Taliban, just as he made the release of the ISIS prisoners in northern ME free after our allies the Kurds were deserted by trump... many of the currant Taliban ground pounders were once isis foot troops..



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Dec 9, 2022 19:18:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
moldyoldy wrote:
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/


Thanks moldy, I am going to keep that in file.. I can never find it when I want it...

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Dec 9, 2022 21:03:38   #
Rose42
 
Why some of you can’t accept the truth that Biden royally screwed up the withdrawal is irrational. You can’t ‘but trump’ your way out of it.

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Dec 9, 2022 21:21:13   #
moldyoldy
 
Rose42 wrote:
Why some of you can’t accept the truth that Biden royally screwed up the withdrawal is irrational. You can’t ‘but trump’ your way out of it.



You right wingers are always on the wrong side of history. Now you are screaming about a marine being left in in Russia. He was kicked out of the Marines.

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Dec 9, 2022 21:42:14   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
moldyoldy wrote:
The great deal maker negotiated the terms of the withdrawal, not Biden.


it was Biden's incompetency and he owns it !

Biden's pullout was a humongous disaster because he had no clue what he was doing apparently you think his pullout was a great success .

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