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Nov 4, 2022 21:40:14   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday
JEFF SCHECHTMAN 11/04/22
On Tuesday we will have our first election since January 6. There is every reason to believe that things will get worse. That January 6 was merely an inflection point on the road to a government we may not recognize in a few years.

This according to our guest on this week’s WhoWhatWhy podcast, New York Times Magazine reporter and author Robert Draper. In his new book, Weapons of Mass Delusion, Draper explains how January 6 was a signal moment for the Republican party, one that left the MAGA base as the core and future of the party.

He lays out how “Stop the Steal” was a metaphor for those who believe that not just the 2020 election, but the country itself has been stolen from them. That their version of America has been taken away, and they are determined to get it back, by any means necessary.

Draper reminds us that Trump didn’t create this mindset; he merely unleashed it. That it has been percolating for a long time and that few people today fully understand what we are facing.

He outlines how, in the MAGA rhetoric, and in their “theology,” democracy is something to be upended. That, to them, democracy works against their interests. That they are more than ready for the complete forfeiture of democracy to serve their agenda.

Draper sees clear parallels to 1930s Germany, but adds that, given the speed of communication today, it could be even worse. We live, he points out, in an “attention economy,” one that easily enhances the power of demagogues like Reps. Majorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Jim Jordan (R-OH), Paul Gosar (R-AZ), and others who will be sitting astride the next Congress.

Draper has some ideas about how all of this will play out in the long run, with and how public sentiment may eventually pushback, but it won’t be before hate is incentivized, and bad behavior and misinformation are weaponized against the form of government established by the US Constitution.

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Nov 4, 2022 21:41:46   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday
JEFF SCHECHTMAN 11/04/22
On Tuesday we will have our first election since January 6. There is every reason to believe that things will get worse. That January 6 was merely an inflection point on the road to a government we may not recognize in a few years.

This according to our guest on this week’s WhoWhatWhy podcast, New York Times Magazine reporter and author Robert Draper. In his new book, Weapons of Mass Delusion, Draper explains how January 6 was a signal moment for the Republican party, one that left the MAGA base as the core and future of the party.

He lays out how “Stop the Steal” was a metaphor for those who believe that not just the 2020 election, but the country itself has been stolen from them. That their version of America has been taken away, and they are determined to get it back, by any means necessary.

Draper reminds us that Trump didn’t create this mindset; he merely unleashed it. That it has been percolating for a long time and that few people today fully understand what we are facing.

He outlines how, in the MAGA rhetoric, and in their “theology,” democracy is something to be upended. That, to them, democracy works against their interests. That they are more than ready for the complete forfeiture of democracy to serve their agenda.

Draper sees clear parallels to 1930s Germany, but adds that, given the speed of communication today, it could be even worse. We live, he points out, in an “attention economy,” one that easily enhances the power of demagogues like Reps. Majorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Jim Jordan (R-OH), Paul Gosar (R-AZ), and others who will be sitting astride the next Congress.

Draper has some ideas about how all of this will play out in the long run, with and how public sentiment may eventually pushback, but it won’t be before hate is incentivized, and bad behavior and misinformation are weaponized against the form of government established by the US Constitution.
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday br J... (show quote)


Hooray !!!!
Finally the Government We Deserve !!!
Bless all of your pointed little heads !!!



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Nov 4, 2022 21:44:50   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
So what if Dems stay in power, how will they turn things around like lowering gas prices, prices of groceries etc. What is their game plan?

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Nov 4, 2022 21:54:31   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Forkbassman wrote:
So what if Dems stay in power, how will they turn things around like lowering gas prices, prices of groceries etc. What is their game plan?


Inflation is always temporary, greed is tough to change.

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Nov 4, 2022 22:05:20   #
BIRDMAN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday
JEFF SCHECHTMAN 11/04/22
On Tuesday we will have our first election since January 6. There is every reason to believe that things will get worse. That January 6 was merely an inflection point on the road to a government we may not recognize in a few years.

This according to our guest on this week’s WhoWhatWhy podcast, New York Times Magazine reporter and author Robert Draper. In his new book, Weapons of Mass Delusion, Draper explains how January 6 was a signal moment for the Republican party, one that left the MAGA base as the core and future of the party.

He lays out how “Stop the Steal” was a metaphor for those who believe that not just the 2020 election, but the country itself has been stolen from them. That their version of America has been taken away, and they are determined to get it back, by any means necessary.

Draper reminds us that Trump didn’t create this mindset; he merely unleashed it. That it has been percolating for a long time and that few people today fully understand what we are facing.

He outlines how, in the MAGA rhetoric, and in their “theology,” democracy is something to be upended. That, to them, democracy works against their interests. That they are more than ready for the complete forfeiture of democracy to serve their agenda.

Draper sees clear parallels to 1930s Germany, but adds that, given the speed of communication today, it could be even worse. We live, he points out, in an “attention economy,” one that easily enhances the power of demagogues like Reps. Majorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Jim Jordan (R-OH), Paul Gosar (R-AZ), and others who will be sitting astride the next Congress.

Draper has some ideas about how all of this will play out in the long run, with and how public sentiment may eventually pushback, but it won’t be before hate is incentivized, and bad behavior and misinformation are weaponized against the form of government established by the US Constitution.
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday br J... (show quote)

Ultra Nuclear mega



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Nov 4, 2022 22:16:26   #
Salvatore
 
When are Democrats going to tell America the truth? My guess is never! They lie to their own voters, and think not only that they are stupid but they actually think the rest of America is stupid also! Democrats won't talk about the issues and all of America realizes it! All they want to talk about is Jan 6th & abortion! When families are finding it hard to pay for food, pay their mortgage or rent! Just going to work is costing Americans too much money for gas! And it wasn't Putin's fault it was Joe Biden and his Socialist Administration's fault PERIOD! Truckers can't pay $1300 or $1400 for a tank of diesel! When trucks stop rolling, America will come to a stand still! We are in a recession whether Democrats say there is or not! The next step is a depression, then we are in deep shite! The Democrats have no answers for anything, just lies, lies, lies!

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Nov 4, 2022 22:31:57   #
BIRDMAN
 
Salvatore wrote:
When are Democrats going to tell America the truth? My guess is never! They lie to their own voters, and think not only that they are stupid but they actually think the rest of America is stupid also! Democrats won't talk about the issues and all of America realizes it! All they want to talk about is Jan 6th & abortion! When families are finding it hard to pay for food, pay their mortgage or rent! Just going to work is costing Americans too much money for gas! And it wasn't Putin's fault it was Joe Biden and his Socialist Administration's fault PERIOD! Truckers can't pay $1300 or $1400 for a tank of diesel! When trucks stop rolling, America will come to a stand still! We are in a recession whether Democrats say there is or not! The next step is a depression, then we are in deep shite! The Democrats have no answers for anything, just lies, lies, lies!
When are Democrats going to tell America the truth... (show quote)

If they let more transvestites into the military that will solve everything

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Nov 4, 2022 22:42:43   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday


Hallelujah!

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. Democracy will degenerate into an anarchy, such an anarchy that every man will do what is right in his own eyes and no man's life or property or reputation or liberty will be secure, and every one of these will soon mould itself into a system of subordination of all the moral virtues and intellectual abilities, all the powers of wealth, beauty, wit and science, to the wanton pleasures, the capricious will, and the execrable cruelty of one or a very few.
John Adams, 2nd president of the United States.


James Madison, Property
29 Mar. 1792 Papers 14:266--68

This term in its particular application means "that dominion which one man claims and exercises over the external things of the world, in exclusion of every other individual."

In its larger and juster meaning, it embraces every thing to which a man may attach a value and have a right; and which leaves to every one else the like advantage.

In the former sense, a man's land, or merchandize, or money is called his property.

In the latter sense, a man has a property in his opinions and the free communication of them.

He has a property of peculiar value in his religious opinions, and in the profession and practice dictated by them.

He has a property very dear to him in the safety and liberty of his person.

He has an equal property in the free use of his faculties and free choice of the objects on which to employ them.

In a word, as a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights.

Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions.

Where there is an excess of liberty, the effect is the same, tho' from an opposite cause.

Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is a just government, which impartially secures to every man, whatever is his own.

According to this standard of merit, the praise of affording a just securing to property, should be sparingly bestowed on a government which, however scrupulously guarding the possessions of individuals, does not protect them in the enjoyment and communication of their opinions, in which they have an equal, and in the estimation of some, a more valuable property.

More sparingly should this praise be allowed to a government, where a man's religious rights are violated by penalties, or fettered by tests, or taxed by a hierarchy. Conscience is the most sacred of all property; other property depending in part on positive law, the exercise of that, being a natural and unalienable right. To guard a man's house as his castle, to pay public and enforce private debts with the most exact faith, can give no title to invade a man's conscience which is more sacred than his castle, or to withhold from it that debt of protection, for which the public faith is pledged, by the very nature and original conditions of the social pact.

That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where the property which a man has in his personal safety and personal liberty, is violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the service of the rest. A magistrate issuing his warrants to a press gang, would be in his proper functions in Turkey or Indostan, under appellations proverbial of the most compleat despotism.

That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where arbitrary restrictions, exemptions, and monopolies deny to part of its citizens that free use of their faculties, and free choice of their occupations, which not only constitute their property in the general sense of the word; but are the means of acquiring property strictly so called. What must be the spirit of legislation where a manufacturer of linen cloth is forbidden to bury his own child in a linen shroud, in order to favour his neighbour who manufactures woolen cloth; where the manufacturer and wearer of woolen cloth are again forbidden the oeconomical use of buttons of that material, in favor of the manufacturer of buttons of other materials!

A just security to property is not afforded by that government, under which unequal taxes oppress one species of property and reward another species: where arbitrary taxes invade the domestic sanctuaries of the rich, and excessive taxes grind the faces of the poor; where the keenness and competitions of want are deemed an insufficient spur to labor, and taxes are again applied, by an unfeeling policy, as another spur; in violation of that sacred property, which Heaven, in decreeing man to earn his bread by the sweat of his brow, kindly reserved to him, in the small repose that could be spared from the supply of his necessities.

If there be a government then which prides itself in maintaining the inviolability of property; which provides that none shall be taken directly even for public use without indemnification to the owner, and yet directly violates the property which individuals have in their opinions, their religion, their persons, and their faculties; nay more, which indirectly violates their property, in their actual possessions, in the labor that acquires their daily subsistence, and in the hallowed remnant of time which ought to relieve their fatigues and soothe their cares, the influence [inference?] will have been anticipated, that such a government is not a pattern for the United States.

If the United States mean to obtain or deserve the full praise due to wise and just governments, they will equally respect the rights of property, and the property in rights: they will rival the government that most sacredly guards the former; and by repelling its example in violating the latter, will make themselves a pattern to that and all other governments.

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Nov 4, 2022 22:54:47   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday
JEFF SCHECHTMAN 11/04/22
On Tuesday we will have our first election since January 6. There is every reason to believe that things will get worse. That January 6 was merely an inflection point on the road to a government we may not recognize in a few years.

This according to our guest on this week’s WhoWhatWhy podcast, New York Times Magazine reporter and author Robert Draper. In his new book, Weapons of Mass Delusion, Draper explains how January 6 was a signal moment for the Republican party, one that left the MAGA base as the core and future of the party.

He lays out how “Stop the Steal” was a metaphor for those who believe that not just the 2020 election, but the country itself has been stolen from them. That their version of America has been taken away, and they are determined to get it back, by any means necessary.

Draper reminds us that Trump didn’t create this mindset; he merely unleashed it. That it has been percolating for a long time and that few people today fully understand what we are facing.

He outlines how, in the MAGA rhetoric, and in their “theology,” democracy is something to be upended. That, to them, democracy works against their interests. That they are more than ready for the complete forfeiture of democracy to serve their agenda.

Draper sees clear parallels to 1930s Germany, but adds that, given the speed of communication today, it could be even worse. We live, he points out, in an “attention economy,” one that easily enhances the power of demagogues like Reps. Majorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Jim Jordan (R-OH), Paul Gosar (R-AZ), and others who will be sitting astride the next Congress.

Draper has some ideas about how all of this will play out in the long run, with and how public sentiment may eventually pushback, but it won’t be before hate is incentivized, and bad behavior and misinformation are weaponized against the form of government established by the US Constitution.
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday br J... (show quote)



Whatabunchacrap!
America has a chance to return to the democratic republic our forefathers envisioned . Why the Democrats keep saying that Republicans want to destroy our country must be projection. Accuse the other side of doing what your doing . Look around you . How could you possibly think things are better then they were two years ago? This distruction was all caused by Biden and the damned Dems... To vote Democrat is to continue down this destructive path that biden is hellbent on pursuing
Voting Republican is voting to save America and our constitution.Lets turn this train around before the trainwreck we all see coming from this administration .
Engineer! Stop this train and let my brother, Jack off!!

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Nov 4, 2022 23:43:29   #
donrent Loc: SW Florida -Born Texas-Lived Panama & Alaska
 
So - you expect the Democrats to win ?

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Nov 4, 2022 23:52:28   #
BIRDMAN
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Whatabunchacrap!
America has a chance to return to the democratic republic our forefathers envisioned . Why the Democrats keep saying that Republicans want to destroy our country must be projection. Accuse the other side of doing what your doing . Look around you . How could you possibly think things are better then they were two years ago? This distruction was all caused by Biden and the damned Dems... To vote Democrat is to continue down this destructive path that biden is hellbent on pursuing
Voting Republican is voting to save America and our constitution.Lets turn this train around before the trainwreck we all see coming from this administration .
Engineer! Stop this train and let my brother, Jack off!!
Whatabunchacrap! br America has a chance to return... (show quote)

Agree

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Nov 5, 2022 04:05:20   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday
JEFF SCHECHTMAN 11/04/22
On Tuesday we will have our first election since January 6. There is every reason to believe that things will get worse. That January 6 was merely an inflection point on the road to a government we may not recognize in a few years.

This according to our guest on this week’s WhoWhatWhy podcast, New York Times Magazine reporter and author Robert Draper. In his new book, Weapons of Mass Delusion, Draper explains how January 6 was a signal moment for the Republican party, one that left the MAGA base as the core and future of the party.

He lays out how “Stop the Steal” was a metaphor for those who believe that not just the 2020 election, but the country itself has been stolen from them. That their version of America has been taken away, and they are determined to get it back, by any means necessary.

Draper reminds us that Trump didn’t create this mindset; he merely unleashed it. That it has been percolating for a long time and that few people today fully understand what we are facing.

He outlines how, in the MAGA rhetoric, and in their “theology,” democracy is something to be upended. That, to them, democracy works against their interests. That they are more than ready for the complete forfeiture of democracy to serve their agenda.

Draper sees clear parallels to 1930s Germany, but adds that, given the speed of communication today, it could be even worse. We live, he points out, in an “attention economy,” one that easily enhances the power of demagogues like Reps. Majorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Jim Jordan (R-OH), Paul Gosar (R-AZ), and others who will be sitting astride the next Congress.

Draper has some ideas about how all of this will play out in the long run, with and how public sentiment may eventually pushback, but it won’t be before hate is incentivized, and bad behavior and misinformation are weaponized against the form of government established by the US Constitution.
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday br J... (show quote)




Only your distorted view..... Sober up.

It's payback time...... be worried.

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Nov 5, 2022 05:07:40   #
Jlw Loc: Wisconsin
 
Forkbassman wrote:
So what if Dems stay in power, how will they turn things around like lowering gas prices, prices of groceries etc. What is their game plan?


They will legalize abortions, that will fix everything

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Nov 5, 2022 05:38:07   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday
JEFF SCHECHTMAN 11/04/22
On Tuesday we will have our first election since January 6. There is every reason to believe that things will get worse. That January 6 was merely an inflection point on the road to a government we may not recognize in a few years.

This according to our guest on this week’s WhoWhatWhy podcast, New York Times Magazine reporter and author Robert Draper. In his new book, Weapons of Mass Delusion, Draper explains how January 6 was a signal moment for the Republican party, one that left the MAGA base as the core and future of the party.

He lays out how “Stop the Steal” was a metaphor for those who believe that not just the 2020 election, but the country itself has been stolen from them. That their version of America has been taken away, and they are determined to get it back, by any means necessary.

Draper reminds us that Trump didn’t create this mindset; he merely unleashed it. That it has been percolating for a long time and that few people today fully understand what we are facing.

He outlines how, in the MAGA rhetoric, and in their “theology,” democracy is something to be upended. That, to them, democracy works against their interests. That they are more than ready for the complete forfeiture of democracy to serve their agenda.

Draper sees clear parallels to 1930s Germany, but adds that, given the speed of communication today, it could be even worse. We live, he points out, in an “attention economy,” one that easily enhances the power of demagogues like Reps. Majorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Jim Jordan (R-OH), Paul Gosar (R-AZ), and others who will be sitting astride the next Congress.

Draper has some ideas about how all of this will play out in the long run, with and how public sentiment may eventually pushback, but it won’t be before hate is incentivized, and bad behavior and misinformation are weaponized against the form of government established by the US Constitution.
Democracy Will Likely Be Voted Out on Tuesday br J... (show quote)


What Progressive Pissants and Liberal Hobbit Fart Sniffers can't seem to comprehend is that "Democracy" will not be voted out on Tuesday, DEMOCRATS will be.

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Nov 5, 2022 05:41:12   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Birdmam wrote:
If they let more transvestites into the military that will solve everything


I have it on good authority that the Senile Shitweasel and his sidekick, the Happy Hooker have authorized the formation of a brigade of Trannies. Should the Russkies or Chinese be foolish enough to start a fight, these stalwart soldiers of indeterminate sexual persuasion stand ready to scratch their eyes out.

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