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Oct 2, 2022 15:11:33   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
straightUp wrote:
So, what you're saying here is that DeSantis can't handle devastation so Biden will have to bail them out and because of this, you think Democrats actually want the devastation to happen.

That's a horrible thing to say but I can see where it's coming from.

I still remember when Californians were losing lives and homes to massive fires and Republicans, including Trump, were almost jubilant; taking advantage to blame liberals for not managing their forests even though the fires were in National Forests... land that was supposed to managed by Trump's own federal government. Now that Hurricane Ian has turned Florida upside down, you are expecting the same kind of backstabbing from the liberals because, well - that's what YOU would do. You are clearly projecting here.

The fact is, both incidents were caused by global warming. Yes, we've had fires before, but not as bad. Yes, we've had hurricanes before, but not as bad and you can hear Floridians repeating that over and over as reporters interview them. And yes, Floridians have been electing Republicans that have done everything they can to thwart any efforts to curb the emissions that cause global warming. So in a sense, they did get what they deserved. And it's possible that Hurricane Ian is God's way of telling Florida to pull their heads out of their asses.

But that's not the first thing on our minds. The fact that people are suffering, regardless of their affiliations. Losing a house is devastating. So is losing family members or even pets. Then there is the dangers they still face in the chaotic aftermath. No, we do not wish for devastation. We wish for Republicans to stop being such useful idiots to exploitive industries so that we can all avoid devastation. THAT is what we wish for.
So, what you're saying here is that DeSantis can't... (show quote)


Biden ain't bailing anybody out. This is why America has FEMA, to address disasters. Cry me a f++ing river, Republicans, republicans, republicans- it's all the Republicans.

Hurricane Andrew is the "strongest and most devastating hurricane on record to hit southern Florida," per the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and had maximum sustained winds of 165 mph.

https://www.axios.com/2022/09/28/florida-hurricanes-intensity-categories-ian-charley-michael

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Oct 2, 2022 15:16:29   #
American Vet
 
straightUp wrote:
So, once again, the right leans on smoke and mirrors to project the false image of reality where global warming not a problem.


So let's make sure I get this straight - you maintain global warming is responsible for the increasing severity of hurricanes in the past 30 years - correct?

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Oct 2, 2022 15:18:12   #
American Vet
 
straightUp wrote:
But when you say "the country" you are referring to a specific idea about what YOU want the country to be and if YOUR idea of "the country" is one in which people of all colors and creeds are not treated equally, and corporations are allowed to exploit the people and our natural resources for private capital, then as far as I am concerned, it's a country well-worth destroying. ;)


Then you are in favor of destroying modern civilization.....

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Oct 2, 2022 15:54:21   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
American Vet wrote:
So let's make sure I get this straight - you maintain global warming is responsible for the increasing severity of hurricanes in the past 30 years - correct?


But they haven't gotten stronger.

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Oct 2, 2022 16:23:11   #
BIRDMAN
 
straightUp wrote:
Because there is no disagreement about what a "home" is. When we see people on the news that just lost their home it's a clear human crisis over which and I think all Americans are in agreement. None of us want to see people going through it.

But when you say "the country" you are referring to a specific idea about what YOU want the country to be and if YOUR idea of "the country" is one in which people of all colors and creeds are not treated equally, and corporations are allowed to exploit the people and our natural resources for private capital, then as far as I am concerned, it's a country well-worth destroying. ;)
Because there is no disagreement about what a &quo... (show quote)



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Oct 2, 2022 16:36:29   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
straightUp wrote:
Prayers and wishes don't do shit. Send them money if you want to help. Prayers and wishes are what people do to feel better about themselves when they don't care enough to do anything else..
Greetings, your lameness, here's a heads-up on the power of prayer.
Just one example of a miracle.

At age 16 in 1988, the Mayo Clinic diagnosed Barbara Snyder, a Christian, with multiple sclerosis.
Despite many operations and treatments over the years, Barbara's condition continued to deteriorate.
Her condition was terminal. Her body mass had degenerated, she was wrapped in a fetal position,
her hands curled and useless, her toes nearly touching her heels, and she was blind.
Her diaphragm was paralyzed, one lung had collapsed completely, the other was functioning at 50% capacity.
A breathing tube, a feeding tube, and some medications kept her alive.
Eventually, her doctor put her in respite with orders not to resuscitate.

One day, one of her friends phoned the radio station at the Moody Bible Institute in Chicago and asked they
broadcast a prayer request for Barbara. They did so, and over the following weeks, Barbara received over 400 cards and letters from people praying for her. No one knows for sure how many people prayed for her who didn't send her a message.

One Pentecost Sunday, two of her friends paid her a visit and began reading the cards and letters to her.
That's when it happened.

Suddenly, she sat straight up in bed and hollered, "Go get my parents."
Then she hopped out of bed and landed flat footed on the floor,
as she examined her hands, flexing her fingers and wrists,
she wasn't even aware she could see and breathe and speak again.
She told her parents, her friends, and her doctor that, as she lay dying in bed,
she heard a man's voice from the corner of the room saying, "Get up, my child, and walk."

Her doctor, especially, was astonished. He wrote an article to be published in a medical journal.
In it, he stated there was no medical or scientific explanation for such a phenomenal healing.
He said this could only be a miracle.

Barbara lived a long and healthy life, forever grateful for such a blessing.
In an interview, she was asked, "Why you, Barbara? Why did this happen to you?"
She replied, "I don't know."

Amazing Grace, baby. Do not dismiss the power of prayer.

Barbara Snyder
Barbara Snyder...

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Oct 2, 2022 17:55:43   #
Big Kahuna
 
straightUp wrote:
Because there is no disagreement about what a "home" is. When we see people on the news that just lost their home it's a clear human crisis over which and I think all Americans are in agreement. None of us want to see people going through it.

But when you say "the country" you are referring to a specific idea about what YOU want the country to be and if YOUR idea of "the country" is one in which people of all colors and creeds are not treated equally, and corporations are allowed to exploit the people and our natural resources for private capital, then as far as I am concerned, it's a country well-worth destroying. ;)
Because there is no disagreement about what a &quo... (show quote)


Corporations are already exploiting people. Check out 2-FacedBook and Amazon and tell Suckerberg to quit exploiting our free speech rights and free elections by illegally giving leftist groups $$$$400 million dollars. Now that's demorat exploitation if I've ever seen it. These leftist billionaires surely aren't treating those of opposing political views equally are they???

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Oct 2, 2022 18:01:50   #
Big Kahuna
 
American Vet wrote:
Then you are in favor of destroying modern civilization.....


StraightenUp should consider taking himself out 1st before he takes out modern civilization. I guess he prefers the Stone Age. This guy is really dumb.

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Oct 2, 2022 18:34:08   #
Big Bass
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
StraightenUp should consider taking himself out 1st before he takes out modern civilization. I guess he prefers the Stone Age. This guy is really dumb.


But he thinks he’s brilliant. An arrogant idiot.

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Oct 2, 2022 18:35:31   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
bggamers wrote:
Prayers and wishes are all some can afford

I understand that.

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Oct 2, 2022 18:38:07   #
Big Bass
 
straightUp wrote:
I understand that.


More condescension?

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Oct 2, 2022 18:54:06   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
straightUp wrote:
I understand that.

How much did you afford?

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Oct 2, 2022 19:10:46   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Big Bass wrote:
Did you just discover that water does not go from cold to boiling in an instant? Those small bubbles you mention are the dissolved gases coming out of solution.

In this case, water.

Big Bass wrote:

Did you know that smaller hurricanes and tropical storms cool down the seas to prevent large, more powerful storms?

I am aware that storms are essentially a transfer of heat, so the fact that they cool down the seas is pretty obvious to me and if the seas are cooled by many small storms, then of course there will be less heat to drive larger storms. But I don't believe it's intentional design. It doesn't have to be, physics explains the whole thing.

Big Bass wrote:

We went through a couple of months without, so the temperatures of the sea surface were higher, therefore much more powerful storms. This accounts for Hurricane Camilla, (Jamaica, 1955?) Nevertheless, a long time ago. Global warming? Hardly.

There's no reason to assume the causes are always the same. Studies have also shown pattern matches between fluctuations in sea temperature and human activity, such as the sudden cut back on aerosol products that allowed the ozone to come back (to some extent), which cooled the seas and eased up the hurricanes and you can't say THAT would be the reason for Camilla either. It's a big system.. Lot's of things can happen. But the concern shared by scientists and woke people is that all these lulls are riding on a much larger slope.

So what if we went through a couple of months of cooler sea temperatures? What does that matter if the temperature peaks keep getting higher over a larger span of time? And that's the forest you can't see for the trees in your way. You and your buddies busy scanning for more stories about specific incidents where things have happened before... completely out of the context of the bigger problem.

Also, if you know anything about chaos theory, which was born out of climate science, you know that dynamic systems like global climate are in fact chaotic down through all of our reductionist efforts to understand it. So we have to expect deviations. After all, it's a rocky road to Hell.

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Oct 2, 2022 19:12:56   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Big Bass wrote:
More condescension?

You squeeze a lot out of anything I say, don't you?

You made a point that prayers and wishes is all that some people can afford... I said I understand that. Were you expecting more?

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Oct 2, 2022 19:36:49   #
son of witless
 
straightUp wrote:
There's no reason to assume the causes are always the same. Studies have also shown pattern matches between fluctuations in sea temperature and human activity, such as the sudden cut back on aerosol products that allowed the ozone to come back (to some extent), which cooled the seas and eased up the hurricanes and you can't say THAT would be the reason for Camilla either. It's a big system.. Lot's of things can happen. But the concern shared by scientists and woke people is that all these lulls are riding on a much larger slope.

So what if we went through a couple of months of cooler sea temperatures? What does that matter if the temperature peaks keep getting higher over a larger span of time? And that's the forest you can't see for the trees in your way. You and your buddies busy scanning for more stories about specific incidents where things have happened before... completely out of the context of the bigger problem.

Also, if you know anything about chaos theory, which was born out of climate science, you know that dynamic systems like global climate are in fact chaotic down through all of our reductionist efforts to understand it. So we have to expect deviations. After all, it's a rocky road to Hell.
There's no reason to assume the causes are always ... (show quote)


You said something that makes no sense to me, so I looked it up and could find nothing on it. Now before I say you are full of crap, I want to give you an opportunity to prove yourself right. Maybe you are right. You said this " such as the sudden cut back on aerosol products that allowed the ozone to come back (to some extent), which cooled the seas and eased up the hurricanes " .

Again I tried to find evidence for or against this statement and I struck out. You said it, now present evidence supporting it, if you please.

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