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Aug 26, 2022 13:30:21   #
EmilyD
 
eagleye13 wrote:
So God Made A Liberal..
https://youtu.be/EUzMPlQb2G4

I love that! I could watch that a thousand more times and not get sick of it! 👍👍👍

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Aug 26, 2022 14:11:59   #
moldyoldy
 
EmilyD wrote:
The FBI had complete access to every one of those boxes in June, and they knew about them on the day he left the WhiteHouse. ..why did they let him keep them in June??

And he is not crying...he's getting ready to sue them!



Nobody knew what trump was stealing when he left. Informants told the fbi that trump had more classified documents.

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Aug 26, 2022 14:15:28   #
anandacherie Loc: left coast
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"including his assault on our Democracy with an attempted coup."

You copied that from whwere, anandacherie?


Original, not copied from anywhere

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Aug 26, 2022 14:28:07   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
anandacherie wrote:
I love how Trumpets like to compare Trump's reign by pointing out his best two years: the first two years of his presidency. What about his last 2 years? Did you all get a big tax break? My taxes went UP during his tenure. And what about that virus that was supposed to go away in 15 days, or at least as soon as Biden took office? 300K dead under his watch; no thanks to Trump's ignore it, stop testing, it will go away approach. COVID didn't care about the 30K+ documented lies Trump told, it took him down because it was the first Big Test of his Presidency and he failed to act quickly enough, AND it almost killed him too. Yes, the US economy was booming during Trump's first two years, but any gains he made were completely negated by what happened in his Last Two Years - including his assault on our Democracy with an attempted coup. A president is ultimately judged by His Legacy - which will be forever tarnished by the events he created in those last days. I've always thought that if Trump would have just kept his mouth shut throughout his time in office, and left the WH the normal way, he probably would still be president today.
I love how Trumpets like to compare Trump's reign ... (show quote)

Exaggerate much? Lie even more? What a drama queen and BS artist.

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Aug 26, 2022 14:28:36   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Nobody knew what trump was stealing when he left. Informants told the fbi that trump had more classified documents.


With all the informant lies so far against Trump has been shown to be a hoax I doubt you are really interested in the truth given the hostilities toward Trump I wouldn't believe anything they have to say!

If it's true then the FBI would already had the DOJ to bring charges against Trump forthwith and they would be dancing and having meltdown.

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Aug 26, 2022 14:30:48   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
4430 wrote:
With all the informant lies so far against Trump has been shown to be a hoax I doubt you are really interested in the truth given the hostilities toward Trump I wouldn't believe anything they have to say!

If it's true then the FBI would already had the DOJ to bring charges against Trump forthwith and they would be dancing and having meltdown.

Every leftist is now like the boy who cried wolf. Anything and everything that comes from them is not to be trusted.

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Aug 26, 2022 14:44:57   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Nobody knew what trump was stealing when he left. Informants told the fbi that trump had more classified documents.


I think he has them buried in his back yard about 50 feet from the pool. If this e-mail gets out there will no doubt be a backyard in the middle of the night soon.

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Aug 26, 2022 14:49:40   #
moldyoldy
 
4430 wrote:
With all the informant lies so far against Trump has been shown to be a hoax I doubt you are really interested in the truth given the hostilities toward Trump I wouldn't believe anything they have to say!

If it's true then the FBI would already had the DOJ to bring charges against Trump forthwith and they would be dancing and having meltdown.



You don’t have to believe, the fbi found it to be true.

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Aug 26, 2022 14:58:26   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I think he has them buried in his back yard about 50 feet from the pool. If this e-mail gets out there will no doubt be a backyard in the middle of the night soon.

I heard he took the tags off his pillow and mattress. Isn’t that a federal offense?

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Aug 26, 2022 15:00:21   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You don’t have to believe, the fbi found it to be true.

Then bring the charges and attempt a conviction. What’s taking so long? If it’s so cut and dried you must have useless tools for representatives that can’t even bring an open and shut case to fruition. Or are they still busy reviewing the Steele Dossier?

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Aug 26, 2022 15:17:34   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
anandacherie wrote:
Cheated out of his second term? Excuse me, Trump was VOTED out of his second term. (Maybe because his party couldn't even be bothered with a platform?) Too bad your team can't accept losing, but Biden won fair and square. To this day, NO substantial evidence of election fraud has been furnished proving Trump won. Instead, investigations into Trump keep piling up. Why? Because he is the biggest fraud of them all. Worst president ever. At least Nixon had the brains to resign. If the election was stolen, why then did Democrats lose so badly in the Senate, and barely eeked out a slim majority in the H of R? Just because you don't like the outcome, doesn't mean it was rigged. Trump knew he was going to lose, that's why he started saying "if I lose, it's rigged, if I win, it's not." Hard to believe so many people swallowed that childish statement, and still believe it without proof of any kind. Cult, much?
Cheated out of his second term? Excuse me, Trump... (show quote)
This post, mon cherie, is the product of Group Think,
in one form or other, every leftist has repeated it so often it has become cliche, a dangerous one at that.
With this kind of boilerplate rhetoric repeated ad infinitum, there is no question how effective brainwashing is.

When we get ready to take the United States,
we will not take you under the label of Communism,
we will not take you under the label of Socialism.
These labels are unpleasant to the American people,
and have been 'speared' too much.
We will take the United States under labels we have made lovable!
We will take it under "Liberalism", under "Progressivism",
under "Democracy". And, we will take it.

Communist activist and publisher Alexander Trachtenberg,
at the National Convention of Communist Parties,
Madison Square Garden, 1944.

In 1913, Woodrow Wilson, the most racist and anti-constitution POTUS in our history,
introduced "Progressivism" into American politics.

In 1956, Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev said, "We will take America without firing a shot.
We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within.”

In 1984, Yuri Bezmenov, the Soviet chief of KBG propaganda, defected to Canada then to the United States.
Bezmenov gave a series of interviews and lectures he called "A Warning to America".

He explained in detail the 4 stages in Soviet tactics for the ideological subversion of a free nation.
"Ideological subversion...or psychological warfare...changes the perception of reality to such an extent that despite the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their communities and their country."

1st stage: Demoralization - targets Media, academia, the education system and entertainment.
(this stage may require the indoctrination of 2 or 3 generations before the next stage begins.)
"Whenever brainwashing an entire generation of people into thinking and behaving the way those in power want them to, the first stage is to constantly demoralize them with false information about themselves."

(During this stage, young people are influenced to question the integrity of a country and raise suspicions through media propaganda and academia. Perception takes the center stage and facts become meaningless.
Bezmenov attributes it to the lack of moral standards in society. For a population self-absorbed in a world of propaganda, and theories of Marxism and Leninism, truth loses its grip on the society. The older generation also loses control over the population due to consistent attacks on their moral fabric. Bezmenov revealed that the ‘demoralisation’ phase was completed before the interview and the Soviet Union was surprised at the ease of its execution. He also explained how those from the 60s were occupying high positions in the government, mass media, and civil services at the time of the interview.)

2nd stage: Destabilization - targets the nation’s foreign policy and relations, the economy, military and defense systems. Bezmenov stated that the Marxist-Leninist hold over the American defense and economic sector was ‘fantastic.’ Bezmenov said that he never thought that the process would be so easy to execute in the US.

3rd stage: Crisis - create disorder, lawlessness, divide people into groups, promote, enable and incite violence.
"Never let a good crisis go to waste."
Rahm Immanuel, former Chicago mayor and Obama's Chief of Staff, 2008.

4th stage: Normalization - Coupled with a violent change in power structure and economy, the fourth stage can last indefinitely. The word normalization is derived from Soviet propaganda that seeks to downplay a drastic change in a country as a normal phenomenon. “This will happen in America if you allow the Schumuks to bring the country to crisis, promise people all kinds of goodies and paradise on Earth, destabilise your economy, eliminate the principle of free-market competition, put a Big Brother government in Washington DC with benevolent things.”

Bezmenov wrote a book titled “Love Letter to America” in which he spelled it all out very clearly:

My dear friends, I think you are in big trouble. Whether you believe it or not, YOU ARE AT WAR. And you may lose this war very soon, together with all your affluence and freedoms, unless you start defending yourselves. . . . The driving force of this war has very little to do with natural aspirations of people for better lives and greater freedoms. If at all, these aspirations are being used and taken advantage of by the manipulators and progenitors of the war. The real driving force of this war of aggression is IDEOLOGY — something you cannot eat, wear or store for a “rainy day”. An integral part of this war of ideology is IDEOLOGICAL SUBVERSION — the process of changing the perception of reality in the minds of millions of peoples all over the world. The late comrade Andropov, the former head of the Soviet KGB called this war of Communist aggression, 'the final struggle for the MINDS and hearts of the people'.

The methods they use and their ultimate goals are very far from the liberty, equality and freedom they verbally espouse. Because I have seen the tragic consequences of this war of ideological subversion, I would like to offer some suggestions as to how we in the United States can DEFEND ourselves against this deadly war and how we can SURVIVE in this “final struggle for minds and hearts.”

People all over the Earth, whether they praise America or bitterly criticize her, look upon you as the only hope for mankind’s survival and the last stronghold of freedom. Some may not think in these idealistic terms, but they certainly enjoy the fruits of your civilization, often forgetting to be grateful for them.

This is it, dear Americans, your country (and mine now) will be the last to be “liberated” by Marxists, socialists, and domestic “do-gooders”. If the “liberationists” succeed in bringing their “New Order” to America, chances are you and I will meet in front of a firing squad — or worse in a “re-education” forced labor camp in the Alaskan Peoples Democratic Republic.’

You have too many concrete examples of what Communist “liberation” has done for other countries to believe that I am wrong when I warn you that we are on the brink of disaster. From one that has lived, worked and seen first-hand the realities of day-to-day life in a communist/ socialist state — you must wake up now and start defending the rights and freedoms you now have.

No matter how many problems you think the U.S. may have, believe me when I say that they are nothing in comparison to the troubles you will experience if the U.S. continues to agree and sympathize with communist/socialist doctrines.

I have made my choice to be with YOU, the nation I love. I have risked my life like many others, to tell you of my life and experiences within a Communist state. You have nothing to risk by listening to me and making up your mind as to whether I am a “cold war paranoiac”, as your media calls me, or whether my message makes sense. The choice is yours."


By your own choice,
your life is either sacred or profane.

Ravi Zacharias





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Aug 26, 2022 15:28:09   #
EmilyD
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Nobody knew what trump was stealing when he left. Informants told the fbi that trump had more classified documents.

They knew Trump had these boxes when he left...and they knew what was in the boxes in June when they went through them! Can you answer the question of why they waited TWO more months to seize what they are accusing is a national security threat? And WHY they waited three more days AFTER getting the warrant to raid his house, if these were such sensitive, threatening documents??

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Aug 26, 2022 15:36:03   #
DASHY
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
The fact remains: If we had Trump we wouldn't be in this terrible mess. BTW, if the election were re-held today, the results would be different.


If Trump had received just 8 million more votes he might not have tried to overthrow his own government because of his humiliating Great Big Beautiful LOSS.

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Aug 26, 2022 15:38:51   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You don’t have to believe, the fbi found it to be true.


Not yet if they don't if they did the DOJ would be on it with charges brought faster that a speeding train they can't stand to not get something that may stick on Trump if they think they have something they'll run with it !

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Aug 26, 2022 15:42:53   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
DASHY wrote:
If Trump had received just 8 million more votes he might not have tried to overthrow his own government because of his humiliating Great Big Beautiful LOSS.


You sure can come up with wild imaginary dreams

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