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We can't have voter ID - it would
Oct 29, 2014 14:23:46   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
http://townhall.com/columnists/monacharen/2014/10/28/voter-id-myth-crashes-n1910801?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

ruin one of the major tools needed by the Democrat Party to maintain their viability. Without voter fraud we might revert to a single party system.

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Oct 29, 2014 15:26:36   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Voter ID does make it harder on the libs voters but where I'm at, there's a registration process that does all that. You can't vote if you're not registered. Registration requires the a photo ID or some other stuff like a utility bill, bank account or tax return. Once registered, the system electronically verifies only one vote per registered voter.

The voter ID/photo ID is too much government and is the problem with government these days. It is unnecessary bureaucracy. If it replaces the registration process then okay but it's not. It's on top of the paperwork done already.

Dave wrote:
http://townhall.com/columnists/monacharen/2014/10/28/voter-id-myth-crashes-n1910801?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

ruin one of the major tools needed by the Democrat Party to maintain their viability. Without voter fraud we might revert to a single party system.

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Oct 29, 2014 15:47:58   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
UncleJesse wrote:
Voter ID does make it harder on the libs voters but where I'm at, there's a registration process that does all that. You can't vote if you're not registered. Registration requires the a photo ID or some other stuff like a utility bill, bank account or tax return. Once registered, the system electronically verifies only one vote per registered voter.

The voter ID/photo ID is too much government and is the problem with government these days. It is unnecessary bureaucracy. If it replaces the registration process then okay but it's not. It's on top of the paperwork done already.
Voter ID does make it harder on the libs voters bu... (show quote)


How do you purge the registration roles? How do you make certain that folks showing up are the ones who registered?

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Oct 29, 2014 18:29:51   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
If someone shows up not registered, they're turned away.
If someone is registered but does not have the same address because they moved, they're turned away.
If two vote under the same registration, neither vote counts.

If someone is able to know registered voters who are not going to vote so they can be an imposter, then they are able to read minds and already know how the election is going to turn out anyway.

There's a criticism of college towns where many register but after four years, graduate from college, register in a district they move into but don't send the old college district a note that they left. This area is the only one where there should be any effort to ensure they aren't voting in both places or if they are a college student, require re-registration every four years or so.

Dave wrote:
How do you purge the registration roles? How do you make certain that folks showing up are the ones who registered?

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Oct 29, 2014 18:34:20   #
MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
UncleJesse wrote:
If someone shows up not registered, they're turned away.
If someone is registered but does not have the same address because they moved, they're turned away.
If two vote under the same registration, neither vote counts.

If someone is able to know registered voters who are not going to vote so they can be an imposter, then they are able to read minds and already know how the election is going to turn out anyway.

There's a criticism of college towns where many register but after four years, graduate from college, register in a district they move into but don't send the old college district a note that they left. This area is the only one where there should be any effort to ensure they aren't voting in both places or if they are a college student, require re-registration every four years or so.
If someone shows up not registered, they're turned... (show quote)

You've never been to Chicago that's for sure.

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Oct 29, 2014 18:53:21   #
rumitoid
 
Dave wrote:
http://townhall.com/columnists/monacharen/2014/10/28/voter-id-myth-crashes-n1910801?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl

ruin one of the major tools needed by the Democrat Party to maintain their viability. Without voter fraud we might revert to a single party system.


How much fraud will strict voter ID laws stop? 3 million votes? 2 million? 100,000? 10,000? 5,000? 50? Enough to make a difference in any of the many elections? How may cases of proven voter fraud in, say, 2012? (Actually proven, not the faux report by Fox News about North Carolina, not the accurate but misunderstood [purposely?] by Slate and The Blaze about PA, but true convictions.)

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Oct 29, 2014 19:06:10   #
MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
rumitoid wrote:
How much fraud will strict voter ID laws stop? 3 million votes? 2 million? 100,000? 10,000? 5,000? 50? Enough to make a difference in any of the many elections? How may cases of proven voter fraud in, say, 2012? (Actually proven, not the faux report by Fox News about North Carolina, not the accurate but misunderstood [purposely?] by Slate and The Blaze about PA, but true convictions.)


One case of fraud is one too many.

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Oct 30, 2014 09:19:06   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
UncleJesse wrote:
If someone shows up not registered, they're turned away.
If someone is registered but does not have the same address because they moved, they're turned away.
If two vote under the same registration, neither vote counts.

If someone is able to know registered voters who are not going to vote so they can be an imposter, then they are able to read minds and already know how the election is going to turn out anyway.

There's a criticism of college towns where many register but after four years, graduate from college, register in a district they move into but don't send the old college district a note that they left. This area is the only one where there should be any effort to ensure they aren't voting in both places or if they are a college student, require re-registration every four years or so.
If someone shows up not registered, they're turned... (show quote)


Do you seriously think this sufficient for something as important as voting, or do you think voting not that important?

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Oct 30, 2014 09:22:19   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
rumitoid wrote:
How much fraud will strict voter ID laws stop? 3 million votes? 2 million? 100,000? 10,000? 5,000? 50? Enough to make a difference in any of the many elections? How may cases of proven voter fraud in, say, 2012? (Actually proven, not the faux report by Fox News about North Carolina, not the accurate but misunderstood [purposely?] by Slate and The Blaze about PA, but true convictions.)


How much fraud is acceptable? Liberals seem to be saying that some amount of fraud is acceptable. Further, they seem to be saying voting isn't as important an activity as so many other modern activities that require ID. One can only wonder what the real motivation is - surely it goes beyond the obvious racists thought that minorities have lower capabilities.

As to proven, did you read the article? Is there something she said that you dispute?

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Oct 30, 2014 13:51:33   #
Cherokee38 Loc: Atlanta
 
rumitoid wrote:
How much fraud will strict voter ID laws stop? 3 million votes? 2 million? 100,000? 10,000? 5,000? 50? Enough to make a difference in any of the many elections? How may cases of proven voter fraud in, say, 2012? (Actually proven, not the faux report by Fox News about North Carolina, not the accurate but misunderstood [purposely?] by Slate and The Blaze about PA, but true convictions.)


Dade county in Fla. reported 138% turn out to vote with registered voters. Either they can't do math or fraud has occurred. My guess rumitoid you are democrat, is that correct?

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Oct 30, 2014 17:15:12   #
popparod Loc: Somewhere else.
 
I recall as a young boy going to vote with my grandfather and he always voted democratic because it got him as he called it "a pint of likker and a ten dollar bill." Don't seem like things have changed much over the years.

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