Mikeyavelli

The lefties conceive a desired outcome and create a "scientific study" to manufacture data to support the desired outcome. Climate change, racism, homophobia, class warfare, all very important for the existence of the left which thrives on chaos and jealousy. No problems in the world, no need for lefties.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Ain't that the damn truth!!

robertv3

But not just any photo ID. A government issued, government approved photo ID. And not just any government issued, government approved photo ID. It has to be the kind that was designated by a new rule two weeks before the election. (This paragraph is written as satire but it reflects what really happened in Wisconsin in 2016. My source is the book _How Trump Stole 2020_ by Greg Palast, especially pages 149 through 151, from which I quote below.)

"Nationwide, only two states recorded a drop in student voting. Wisconsin's drop was breathtaking. In-precinct voting by students declined ... from 67% to 49%.

"... the missing students and Black voters ... were disappeared in plain sight by the Republican legislature under laws crafted by Wisconsin's radical-right Governor, Scott Walker.

"One new law required a govenment photo ID to vote. But the photo ID issued by the state to its 182,000 University of Wisconsin students ~did not qualify them~ for voting nor for registration.

"... Gun permits could be used to vote; but not student ID. ...

"A Wisconsin driver's license would do. But not everyone has a license. Who doesn't drive? Students in Madison and low-income urban voters, i.e., the Black population of Milwaukee.

"What was particularly devastating was that the law was ordered into effect by a court only two weeks before the 2016 election. Even those who knew of the change had little time to correct their lack of paper-work, even if they could.

"Elections Commissioner Ann Jacobs suggests the University can simply issue ID that allows students to vote ... but, she noted, just before he lost re-election, Republican Gov. Walker appointed the University Regents -- who would not correct the IDs to mint another 100,000 Democrats.

"In 2016, a student, if they found out about the last-minute ID requirement, could hunt down a university center that would issue a special voting ID. However, that would not have been good enough to vote. The Walker law requires that the special student ID must be presented with proof of current enrollment like a tuition fee receipt or letter verifying enrollment.

"Got that?

"In 2016, most students voted by mail, thinking this was a way around the ID law. But ballots not mailed with an ID and proof of school enrollment would be cancelled and dumped -- and the voter wouldn't know it.

"... Some folks did in fact have the ID required, but the law is so complex and little-explained that thousands ~thought~ they did not have acceptable ID. One in 11 Black voters did not have the right ID, but more than twice that many ~thought~ they didn't, so did not show up at the polls.

"... (page 153) According to The Survey of the Performance of American Elections (SPAE), poll workers nationwide demand that first-time voters who are Black produce ID 64% of the time, more than twice as often as for first-time white voters ..."

(Back to page 149) Bill Clinton "had won Wisconsin twice. In fact, Democrats had crushed it seven elections in a row, helped by the massive vote from the famously progressive, activist University of Wisconsin student population.

"But then, on Election Day 2016, a giant hunk of the student vote simply ... vanished." (And that led to Palast and others investigating to find out why, and the above quotes tell some of what they found out.)

Smedley_buzkill

Slatten, Biden won the Electoral College. That means he won by a total of 43,000 votes in five states in an election where something like 160 million votes were cast. That's less than 10,000 votes per swing state. Here in Georgia, in spite of all the roadblocks thrown up by our buttwipe of a governor, some 8000 fraudulent mail in ballots were discovered and our Secretary of State, Brad Ratburger, ('scuse me, Raffensperger) was going to allow them until he was forced to disallow these votes. His boasts of clearing 100,000 non eligible voters off the rolls fails to mention that he waited until AFTER the vote was certified before doing so. Repeated request by the State Senate Judiciary Committee for an audit, not a recount, of the vote were denied by Governor Kemp. In Fulton County poll watchers were sent home due to a non existent "water main break" and after they had left, counting resumed. Several thousand mail in ballots worth. This outrage was allowed to stand by the bastard who somehow managed to win the Republican primary as the "only candidate who can beat Stacy (Fatso) Abrams."
This is just in my state of Georgia. Point being it doesn't take massive fraud, just a much smaller amount in the right places.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

"You people "

Not true, Arch. I call the one who disagrees with me the most....wife.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Mikeyavelli

If one is too incompetent to get proper voting credentials then one is too incompetent to vote.
And yes, it is true that the lazy ass incompetent people will always vote kommiecrat if they actually do vote.

Big Kahuna

So in fact Jon Meachem was telling Slo Joe to "Go Big" and give the "Big Man" (joe bribem) his 10% of all of Hunters corrupted and extorted money deals. Is Meachem an accomplice to slo Joe's nefarious dealings???

Mikeyavelli

The kommiecrats don't have nefarious dealings. They stole the election and they are now the law. Meacham is just one of the friends of the Obama Clinton Biden Cabal who is automatically immune from laws.

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

gee even Trump used a absentee ballot lol

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

What's your childish point? There is a legitimate reason to use an absentee ballot. Being too sorry to stand in line isn't one of them. Unless you're a worthless progressive.

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

I just made a statement period. Trump could have voted in person but he was to important to vote in person even with all of the secret service protection. So what was his excuse. heck you probably used one your self for all I know It doesn't matter because it is ok to use a Absentee ballot. JIMBO

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Why would a President go to all the trouble to stand in line and vote with all that would entail. Absentee voting should be strictly run, with identification guarantees and and signature guarantees. Mail in voting is much more conducive for fraud than in person voting. I won't vote absentee until I 'm too frail or lose half my mind and become a Democrat.

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

I vote in person also but you will get old someday and under the guidelines in a lot of GOP led states it will be more difficult to vote by absentee ballot period

Big Kahuna

But at least Trump knew how to fill the ballot out. Slo joe had to ask his wife who and what he was voting for and if she could help bubble in Trumps name for president.