Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

Okay, I am going to try to establish evidence that this particular idea is not only dangerous, but evil by design, as well as an abomination and therefore against the nature of man, and the nature of creation.

The way the species was described in religion, specifically in the bible, is that God, the Creator, created Man in His Own Image.

Therefore the human person, was created in the image of God. ---Okay I can buy that.

Then according to Genesis:

"The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”

Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals.

But for Adam[f] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[g] and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib[h] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

The man said,

“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for she was taken out of man.”

That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame." Genesis 2:18-25

So, according to what I read here, (and there are many versions), God made man, out of the clay of the earth in this image. Then took a rib of Adam (Human) and made a helper for him, which Adam named "Woman"

Therefore, "that is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh" That one flesh is human, because the human lost a rib and another being was made.

Make sense right? Well the Democrats beg to differ....

So what is the difference between a man and a woman? (Let's start here now leaving the bible, and entering into science)

A man is physically stronger than the woman. Biological fact.
A woman is the only one of the species that can nurture and carry the baby.

It takes the seed of the man, to join the egg of the woman, to create a new human.

This is an undisputed fact for since the dawn of the creation of man. For Adam was not born but created, and Eve was not born but made from Adam. This is shown in nature with in the species or as St. Jude writes, "with in their own domain"

Now a professor from Berkley, CA, Professor Bridges told senator Harley men can become pregnant.

Obviously the Bible and Science agree about the fact that it takes a man and a woman to create a new member of humanity. This is true. This is nature. This is not an abomination, nor a sin. So that part of the equation can be proven over and over again.

However in Genesis 6, we read the following:

"When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. " Genesis 6:1-2

It has been widely accepted that the "sons of God" are known by another name: Angels. And that the daughters of man, were women. This is a commonly accepted interpretation, which also describes a fear imbedded in the animal instinct of the human person. This fear is spread amongst all of humanity for this happened in the beginning of the species.

So what does these two verses of the first book of Moses describe? This describes that the "gods" or "angels" has cardinal knowledge of women or some sort of sexual relations with the "daughters of man". Some ancient texts consider these women from the line of Cain, therefore wicked women.

So an angel had sex with a woman, what was the produce of that union? The bible relates that this off spring were Giants and all sorts of beasts. Even St. Jude relates to this one incident in human history warning his fellow Christians against such abominations when he writes:


"Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord[c] at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

In the very same way, on the strength of their dreams these ungodly people pollute their own bodies, reject authority and heap abuse on celestial beings. But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them." Jude 1:5-10

But what is interesting about St. Jude is that he continues:
"Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s rebellion.

These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.

Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage." Jude 1:11-16

The saint clearly condemns these acts as a major abomination and that this kind of knowledge should remain taboo and we as a species should steer far from the temptations of this abomination. Make Sense? But, he warns that there will be those who, engage by their own desire, this abomination and that these people will be judged and cast into the eternal fire(hell). A very harsh warning, to those who perverse the truth of God, and his servants, and his people.

Now what specifically is Moses and St. Jude referring to?

In 1 Enoch, the sons of God are the “sons of heaven,” angelic beings led by Shemihazah. The name Shemihazah (שׁמיחזה, šemîḥăzāh) means “My name has seen” and is sometimes vocalized as Semyaz of Semyaza (Nickelsburg, 179). “Name” refers to God, so the name refers to constantly watching God. This is ironic since God will see this rebellion and render judgment on the Shemihazah. As the story progresses, however, Azazel emerges as the ringleader (but later Enoch will intercede on behalf of Azazel).

The two hundred angels take an oath to descend to Mt Hermon, find women to marry and have children with them. 1 Enoch 6:7-8 lists the names of the leaders of these angels. Most have names with some reference to God (Remashel, “evening of God” or Kokabel, “star of God” ).

In chapters 7 and 8 the angels make good on their oath and take women as wives. They teach humans “magical medicines, incantations, the cutting of roots and about plants.” The origin of folk-medicine is therefore ascribed to these angelic beings. The children of the angels are giants standing three hundred cubits (450 feet tall!) These giants eat so much food the humans cannot feed them anymore. The giants proceed to eat humans as well as all other kinds of animals.

The text notes especially that they drank the blood of animals, “sinning against them.” In the biblical flood story, the Noahic covenant includes a command about consuming blood. 1 Enoch 7-8 is a reflection upon this command which was probably given because the antediluvian world did in fact consume blood.

In addition to teaching humans in interpret a wide range of signs, they teach humans medicinal magic. The angel Azazel teaches humans metal-working, including making of ornaments and weapon making. Azazel also teaches them to make eye-shadow and other physical ornamentation. This may be a polemic against pagan practice of using make up in their religious ceremonies. Other angels teach the humans how to track the stars (astrology and divination) and the signs of the moon. These angels are responsible for teaching humans all sorts of sinful practices. Humanity cries out as a result of this oppression, a cry which “goes up to heaven.”

Therefore, the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were taught to man from their fathers-the Nephilim

Now the focus in this topic is not the Nephilim, but the fathers of the Nephilim, 200 some odd, rebellious angels that taught man the acts of sexual impurity and other sexual sins such as rape, incest, etc.

Now the angels saw the Creator bring into existence all forms of life, and these rebellious angels knew how to pervert that life. They attacked humans, and inserted their genome into the human person. This almost destroyed the human race in the beginning. But now, it seems its back. These evil angels are responsible for the evils of racism, and acts of desire, such as (the act of homosexuality).

Now today, there is an argument underway that states an unnatural act: A man getting pregnant and having a child. First of all the man, like the wicked women, the wives of the angels, would die a painful horrible death. But their produce would be much like that of the Nephilim.

The only scientific way, that a man could possibly get pregnant is through artificial means, for simply put the man does not have the equipment to carry the child to term. If the man survives the pregnancy's period, or the carrying of the child, how is the child supposed to exit the man? And in this Birthing process, what damage will that baby cause the man?

There are medical procedures that should always be taboo, and one of them is inserting the female organs into a man, or visa versa. These procedures are an abomination and should be prohibited. Even if the surgery was successful, and did function properly, what phycological and physiological effects would occur on the male made female or female made male?

This type of procedure, was first taught to man from the angels, and then infected the human race with all sorts of evil, almost killing the species of the human domain. Now, in the realm of science which was not taught to man through the angels, we have discovered this immoral, taboo, unjust, and just simply wrong procedure.

You cannot physically change yourself from a man to a woman or a woman to man, and expect to live. Save civil rights, for a moment, or any phobia you may think I'm promoting, and just look at survival of such a person and the natural quality of life. Remember, Nature is against such a creature, and nature, not racism will try to kill and purge such a person. I feel sorry for those who get this procedure done.

Now let's say the procedure is successful, and a man is made by man into a woman. Then the next act would be, as an evil angel or a scientist because both would be curious, would be to make the artificial woman pregnant. Then the above questions I asked as a reason of practicality, would apply. How would this biological man carry such an abomination? Would the person survive? Nature is already fighting against the abomination, and Man (who takes the easy way out, would probably follow nature, for that is the nature of man. Therefore it is not bigoted, or racism, or even a phobia to fear for the life of a fellow human being getting such an abomination procedure.

Abortion(an argument for another time) would be necessary to save the life of the male made female. And Abortion is murder.

Sorry but this is my view point, and I back it up with Scripture and Science. Why does the other side believe so much in an evil procedure based on desire? Is that desire so strong that they will risk self preservation, or life itself to satisfy that desire? If that's the case I refer them to the whole book of St. Jude.

The End. Any Questions? Complaints? Statements? Please respond. Like to hear what you all think.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

Ranger:
Well, the scripture thing isn't for me, but go for it. But we agree that people can't change their sex. Here is my beliefs and I've never seen anything that changes it.

The science part is this. XY can impregnate. XX can get pregnant. XY is man, XX is woman. You can't change a man into a woman and so he can't get pregnant. Irrefutable. There are people that are freaks of nature. They are not necessarily a complete man or a complete woman, physically. They may be part of each as in XXY. Can such a person get pregnant? I don't know that it is impossible. I don't know that it is possible. But they wouldn't be a natural man and have the female reproductive organs. A man is still XY and a woman is still XX

Most of this bull shit comes from democrats and leftists pushing an unnatural agenda called Transexual and Transmen. As much as they try, and as many chemicals they take and surgeries they have, they still can't change the facts of every cell in their body is either XX and a man or XY and a woman. 100%. They have a mental condition where they believe they are the opposite sex and that is all. It is mental and can never be physical. Only cosmetic.

Cheers

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Liberals today have gone nuts; so much so that they can't even recognize it, and since they don't recognize it in themselves they won't seek help (Catch 22). I hope they keep it up until November.
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1546891926997188608?s=20&t=kVtb3g4mdrEwKGdc1nPYsQ

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/hearing-witness-claims-hawley-inciting-anti-trans-violence-by-asking-if-women-get-pregnant/

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

Since there is a group of people, who by their own desire, choose to go against nature and nature's God, by commiting willfully these sins of the angels, I for one cannot support such a people. And in these days the doctrine of these people, have been adopted by the Democrat political party. Therefore, if they believe that a man can get pregnant, whether or not they believe in God, whether or not they believe in science, where or not they believe in both or neither is unnatural therefore a defect in their own thinking.

How can I, as a registered voter, who has lived a life in accordance with nature and nature's God, trust such people. Now that doesn't say, that I'll cut them off from the American family or the human race, that just says I don't trust them.

By their hypocritical statements, creating the environment of "rules for thee but not for me", who would trust such a philosophy let alone such a person who believes in such.

I for one, and I can safely speak for many humans, and registered voter citizens, shall not partake in any angelic sin, a sin so bad that God punished not only the angels and their descendants, but also punished the earth and mankind. Why would a people challenge such a Good in this fashion.

But the stubbornness of man, would like Nimrod, pharaoh, Caesar and many others. We need not partake in that sin. Not only is it a sin, an abomination, but it is also, unethical, and unjust. Certain knowledge of man, that can cause man's destruction should be taboo and should hold the greatest punishment in this world as it does in the next.

But that is my opinion.

Iliamna Loc: Born in Ca, but raised in Montana. Went to Un

While I agree with much of your post, much of it has little to do with what is being done in this spiritual wickedness of 'transitioning. Prior to the flood, fallen angels were involved in sexual relations with human women which resulted in the birth of the Nephilim. These initial Nephilim were all destroyed in the flood. However, after the Noahic flood, more Nephilim were born. The current transitioning does not require a fallen angel, although I suspect much is coerced by Satan and his minions. The Bible states the heart of man is desperately wicked. Who can know it?
The full transitioning for a male requires tons of hormones, breast implants, removal of the testicals and inversion of the penis to make a vagina. There are no ovaries or fallopian tubes. The female transitioning to a male is also subjected to tons of hormones, then generally starts with removal of her breasts and then the making of an artificial penis. However, she/he does not possess genuine testicals, so cannot give any semen to make a baby. So now you have two individuals who are functionally sterile. Unless someone can transplant a full set of real female organs into the male, he cannot get pregnant. ANYONE who says a man can get pregnant is deliberately deceiving him/herself. And to top it off, no matter how successful the sugeries may be, no matter how many hormones you give these people, no matter how they dress or expertly put om makeup. EVERY SIGLE CELL OF THE TRANSITIONED MALE TO FEMALE WILL CONTAIN THAT IDENTIFYING XY DNA CHROMOSES AND LIKEWISE THE FEMALE TO MALE WILL STILL HAVE THE XX CHROMOSOMES.
we can lie to ourselves and to each other, but as the Bible states, male and female He created them.
Not surprisingly, many have found out they mad a horrific mistake and are transitioning back to their original sexual identity. Unfortunately, they are all left sterile, and many are rendered sexually impotent.
We need to pray for these people. They need our compassion and the Gospel, not our condemnation.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

I agree with you. But what I've demonstrated by this post is almost a warning to human beings who engage in this type of abomination. It is an angelic sin that mankind is not supposed to engage in and for those who do, as the two saints write, these wicked are to be thrown in the great lake of fire in the end.

Christ, himself, told the faithful in the Gospels that we, will not be able to save everyone. However, since the wicked are attacking the innocent and the young in this generation, must pick up our crosses, and follow Christ's teachings, and also pray.

Constantly pray, do not cease in praying.

But I do declare, that if it is impossible to reason, then exile, like in the example of God, is the only just answer.

Imagine for a moment, how Adam and Eve, man and woman, felt when they were exiled from the garden of Eden, and suffered the punishment of original sin. When they discovered that they were naked, and therefore felt shame.

Consider for a moment, when Adam exiled Cain, his first born, for the evil he committed against Abel.

Consider the stories from history of how the exile of humans, was a just solution for the sins of man, instead of death.

Even today, exile of the sinner, is still exercised. The sinners name may have changed to criminal, however, like in the case of Adam and Eve, in the fullness of time, Christ for gave them and their exile was ended.

Why bring up this exile of original sin? By the example of God's handling of Adam and Eve's sin, through Jesus Christ's forgiveness, Adam and Eve were given a full pardon.

In these days, there are certain democrats, progressives, and other groups that believe in their hearts the opposite of what has been taught in centuries of human history. From the Judeo-Christian teachings, to the teachings of Solon, Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, to even more teachings outside of western culture, they all complement that of God.

For the western world the Greek philosophers, which lie near the foundation of western philosophy, which discovered anomalies of their philosophy, only to be solved by Christ's teachings. These ideas established basic truths that have not changed. They were expanded upon by philosophers after them, but Christ's solution remains.

In the combination of eastern and western philosophies, it comes to pass with fulfillment through Christ. Where once the writings and wisdom of Solomon in the book of Ecclesiastes, where the writer of the book establishes all is vanity, Christ solves this too.

But the western world, and the eastern world took centuries to understand how to control that vanity. Now today that vanity has taken a more threatening form. By combining the evils of both eastern sin with western sin which develops into angelic sin.

This sin brings back the times of Noah before the flood and we can find the source of this sin and trace it back to the 200 rebellious angels....it effects our disciplines of science and fills it with an evil pride.

Don't believe me? Look at people like this professor from Berkeley who is afraid to answer the Senator's simple question, "Do you believe that the woman is the only sex that can bear and have children?"

Through scientific pride the answer to the question was to attack the question as being systemically racist and invokes violence. The problem the professor had with the question was the pronouns used to establish the question. But the question was a simple question a child would ask. And here this expert cannot answer such a question. Where another expert in their field could not identify a woman. That person was a nominee for the Supreme Court, Biden's pick.

Therefore since pride was the sin described by the Bible and the book of Enoch as the sin of the angels, this same pride is being used in a free society to make us enslaved in the same sin.

The book of Enoch which is mentioned in the book of St Jude, identifies a certain ancient practice, "splitting of species and splitting of roots" that practice had entered the modern mind, first as magic, then as science. It is the pride of both, that these scientists are magicians of old. This is a firm of wickedness that was popular in the times of Noah where all of creation called out to the Creator saying that they were defiled and wicked. It effected all of creation this the flood was necessary.

Today, we have the intolerance of the progressives and liberals driven by the progressives. They are leading us into slavery in the name of racism seeking order. However, in freedom order is completed, where as in control order is not achieved. How can the created control the created?

Thus, a sense of order that is controlled by a creation, cannot be accomplished without freedom. For when you separate light from darkness in order, there is no sense of being. Without being nature discards the product of such to establish growth and make room for growth. Therefore it is impossible to gain that growth, through the creation controlling through force, to continue life. Thus, under control of the creation, life ends.

The rules of nature, and nature's God, established rules for the freewill and stops that will of the enslaved will. Thus no one creature can control another creature in time. Thus order, natural order will destroy the imperfect.

Thus, here again, and in the rules of philosophy, a man having a child, nature will kill both the child and the man. And nature, in it's mercy at the very least would render both sterile, which is a natural act of nature to eliminate the abomination.

In conclusion, man does not have the power over the creation of life, nor does it have the power to control nature. That is not our function, we are stewards of the earth and all of creation, we are not the Lord and Master of creation. Thus, we can manipulate the matter around us, but we cannot create it nor destroy it.

So science and philosophy when wielded properly, that is both science and religion, complements each other....as long as religion, philosophy, works within the laws of nature and nature's God, the complement, greatness, and beauty, is found.

Freedom is natural. Death is unnatural. But death is used to advance the natural. (See the explaination in the volumes of the writings of St. Augustine, in the city of God)