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Mar 30, 2022 16:26:04   #
ziggy88 Loc: quincy illinois 62301
 
Rapture Reverberations
By Joel Joseph
Researched by Pastor Gary Boyd
June 9th 2020

Introduction:

These are the words of life!

The word “reverberation” means: A persistent sound that makes things seem to shake and vibrate, or a booming repeating wave that follows the initial event.

The rapture will blow our socks off for sure. It takes place in a flash, in an “atomo” (atomic moment) It will occur mysteriously, in the air, silently and out of sight to all unbelievers left behind. (It is the Second Coming that will be seen by all).

The rapture of the true church will be the event that causes reverberation, repercussions and rumblings around the world like echoing thunder, in the hearts, minds and souls of the left behind masses, as the shock sets in and the seven-year tribulation begins.

There will be howling, yelling and shouting in disbelief. The world will be crying, “me too?” “Don’t you know, God – ‘my life matters’?”

Isaiah 13:6-8 “Wail and howl for the day of the Lord (tribulation period) is at hand! It will come as destruction from the Almighty. Therefore all hands will be limp, everyman’s heart will melt and they will be afraid. Pangs and sorrow will take hold of them...Their faces will be like flames.”

But, as the rapture approaches, the reverberations are already starting. Just the teaching and sharing of it is causing the fists of many in opposition, to shake in reverberating anger at the teachers, the Bible, and God!

This edition is about rapture musings, meditations, appraisals and approvals, and about making the rapture opponents mad and angry.

A rapture reverberation is being seen right now in the rejection of rapture teaching by many churches. The rapture rattles their cage.

The greatest proof ever of a pre-tribulation rapture:

In plain sight, is this great and powerful fact and reason for the pre-trib rapture.

The Bible confirms in plain language in four passages that God works differently with man in the different dispensations. (Ephesians 1:10, 3:2, Hebrews 1:1, Colossians 1:25)

The dispensation of the law had specific unique characteristics. Salvation was not through the new-birth experience, but by simply believing and having salvation imputed to them. There was no indwelling Holy Spirit. They were not “new creations” as they are in the New Covenant.

Without going into all the details of Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy, it’s well accepted common knowledge that the Old Covenant dispensation is on hold for the church age, and will resume and be completed by the seven-year tribulation.

So, here’s the big thing: If the church is to go through just one second of the tribulation period, that would mean that the church would have to become un-born-again and un-Spirit filled and un-newly created! The true church would have to be de-churched and made tribulation saints. Do you think that’s going to happen? – It never will!

The destination of the church is heaven. Ultimately it will be the New Jerusalem, heaven, earth and the entire universe. But initially the destination of the church is heaven, and the destination of the tribulation saints is the Millennial earth. There’s a big difference!

Our Lord said: “I will come to receive you to be where I am.” (John 14:3) That is in heaven.

We see here proof supreme that the church cannot be part of the tribulation dispensation at all.

The relationship between the rapture and Israel:

Isaiah 66:19 “I will set a sign amongst them (Israel)...and they shall declare My glory amongst the Gentiles.”

Israel was born in a day on the 14th May 1948. (Isaiah 66:8) This foreshadows Israel’s spiritual birth, which will also begin in a day. Bear in mind that the entire tribulation period is also called “The Day of the Lord.”

What will be the grand sudden sign causing Israel to turn to their Messiah?

Zechariah 3:9 “...I will remove the iniquity of that land (Israel) in one day.”

The church was commanded by God to “take the gospel to the Jew first.” And, to “make the Jew jealous.” The church by and large ignored this and did the opposite.

It is the rapture of the church that will have the most dramatic reverberations amongst the unsaved Jews, left behind. They will immediately become angry and jealous that God has left them, the chosen people behind! (Romans 10:19)

So, finally, in its last breath on earth, every member of the true church suddenly obeys God’s command to take the good news to the Jew and make them jealous, through the rapture!

The rapture itself becomes the great, glorious sign and message. The rapture will shock the hell of the Jews. The rapture will make them instantly angry at God and jealous of the church.

But very quickly Israel will repent and suddenly recognize who their Messiah is, turn to Him, worship Him, clean their acts up, and become the world’s greatest evangelists, in the tribulation.

Isaiah 49:6 “I also will give you (Israel) as a light to the Gentles, that you should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.”

Isaiah 55:5 “You (Israel) shall call a nation you do not know, and nations who do not know you shall run to you, because of the Lord your God, and the holy One of Israel; for He has glorified you.”

The reverberations of Israel’s very soon-coming awakening are being felt worldwide. Tragically, even many churches and teachers are coming against Israel with a new satanic passion.

By the way, you can prove a post trib rapture if you get rid of Israel!

Part of the very reason for Satan’s creation of a new world order, one world government, economy and religion is a reverberation against the coming glory of Israel and God’s triumphant plans for them, even through much tribulation.

If Satan and his people can create a new world order, reaching up to God, just like at Babel, God’s plans for a new world order called the Millennium would be defeated.

It is the satanic ‘triumph’ of globalism that will be defeated in the greatest conflicts the world has ever seen – soon!

We are about to see the annexation of Judah and Samaria. This will cause major upheavals and conflict. It may well lead to the unfulfilled wars in the Middle East. All of this is a reverberation of the coming glorification of Israel, and expansion of the land.

Rapture reasons:

A major pre-tribulation rapture confirmation is seen in the fact that book of Revelation deals chronologically, with the church in the first four chapters, and the church is not seen again except in heaven, during the tribulation chapters through the rest of the Revelation.

The absence of the church in the tribulation is a powerful reason for the rapture itself and a pre-tribulation rapture.

Interestingly, the birth of the church at Pentecost was marked by the indwelling Spirit, the placing of the law in believer’s hearts, and the giving of the language of the church – tongues.

We see that there is coming a time when “tongues will cease” and prophecy will vanish away or dissipate over time. (1 Corinthians 13:8) The original word for “cease” means to cease in an instant, while the “vanishing away” takes place over time.

It is widely believed (and by me) that the instant “ceasing” is due to the rapture. Tongues are not evident in the tribulation but are in the entire church age.

The world is going crazy:

The forerunners to the catastrophes of the tribulation are lining up right now. They are:

•Plagues (disease) •Famines (evident in many nations) •Pestilences (locust invasion striking like never before right now) • Nations (ethnic) rising against nations (riots and social unrest) •Lawlessness (rioting, defunding the police) •Removal of the restrainer (increase wickedness and evil •One world currency (collapse of earnings and economic hardship) •One world religion (churches joining the agenda of the world) •Still to come are the big wars and all the natural upheavals.

All the craziness in the world currently, is a reverberation of the soon coming rapture. The world’s current upheavals and troubles are just a small glimpse of things to come under antichrist. Maranatha.........



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Mar 30, 2022 16:56:03   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
ziggy88 wrote:
Rapture Reverberations
By Joel Joseph
Researched by Pastor Gary Boyd
June 9th 2020

Introduction:

These are the words of life!

The word “reverberation” means: A persistent sound that makes things seem to shake and vibrate, or a booming repeating wave that follows the initial event.

The rapture will blow our socks off for sure. It takes place in a flash, in an “atomo” (atomic moment) It will occur mysteriously, in the air, silently and out of sight to all unbelievers left behind. (It is the Second Coming that will be seen by all).

The rapture of the true church will be the event that causes reverberation, repercussions and rumblings around the world like echoing thunder, in the hearts, minds and souls of the left behind masses, as the shock sets in and the seven-year tribulation begins.

There will be howling, yelling and shouting in disbelief. The world will be crying, “me too?” “Don’t you know, God – ‘my life matters’?”

Isaiah 13:6-8 “Wail and howl for the day of the Lord (tribulation period) is at hand! It will come as destruction from the Almighty. Therefore all hands will be limp, everyman’s heart will melt and they will be afraid. Pangs and sorrow will take hold of them...Their faces will be like flames.”

But, as the rapture approaches, the reverberations are already starting. Just the teaching and sharing of it is causing the fists of many in opposition, to shake in reverberating anger at the teachers, the Bible, and God!

This edition is about rapture musings, meditations, appraisals and approvals, and about making the rapture opponents mad and angry.

A rapture reverberation is being seen right now in the rejection of rapture teaching by many churches. The rapture rattles their cage.

The greatest proof ever of a pre-tribulation rapture:

In plain sight, is this great and powerful fact and reason for the pre-trib rapture.

The Bible confirms in plain language in four passages that God works differently with man in the different dispensations. (Ephesians 1:10, 3:2, Hebrews 1:1, Colossians 1:25)

The dispensation of the law had specific unique characteristics. Salvation was not through the new-birth experience, but by simply believing and having salvation imputed to them. There was no indwelling Holy Spirit. They were not “new creations” as they are in the New Covenant.

Without going into all the details of Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy, it’s well accepted common knowledge that the Old Covenant dispensation is on hold for the church age, and will resume and be completed by the seven-year tribulation.

So, here’s the big thing: If the church is to go through just one second of the tribulation period, that would mean that the church would have to become un-born-again and un-Spirit filled and un-newly created! The true church would have to be de-churched and made tribulation saints. Do you think that’s going to happen? – It never will!

The destination of the church is heaven. Ultimately it will be the New Jerusalem, heaven, earth and the entire universe. But initially the destination of the church is heaven, and the destination of the tribulation saints is the Millennial earth. There’s a big difference!

Our Lord said: “I will come to receive you to be where I am.” (John 14:3) That is in heaven.

We see here proof supreme that the church cannot be part of the tribulation dispensation at all.

The relationship between the rapture and Israel:

Isaiah 66:19 “I will set a sign amongst them (Israel)...and they shall declare My glory amongst the Gentiles.”

Israel was born in a day on the 14th May 1948. (Isaiah 66:8) This foreshadows Israel’s spiritual birth, which will also begin in a day. Bear in mind that the entire tribulation period is also called “The Day of the Lord.”

What will be the grand sudden sign causing Israel to turn to their Messiah?

Zechariah 3:9 “...I will remove the iniquity of that land (Israel) in one day.”

The church was commanded by God to “take the gospel to the Jew first.” And, to “make the Jew jealous.” The church by and large ignored this and did the opposite.

It is the rapture of the church that will have the most dramatic reverberations amongst the unsaved Jews, left behind. They will immediately become angry and jealous that God has left them, the chosen people behind! (Romans 10:19)

So, finally, in its last breath on earth, every member of the true church suddenly obeys God’s command to take the good news to the Jew and make them jealous, through the rapture!

The rapture itself becomes the great, glorious sign and message. The rapture will shock the hell of the Jews. The rapture will make them instantly angry at God and jealous of the church.

But very quickly Israel will repent and suddenly recognize who their Messiah is, turn to Him, worship Him, clean their acts up, and become the world’s greatest evangelists, in the tribulation.

Isaiah 49:6 “I also will give you (Israel) as a light to the Gentles, that you should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.”

Isaiah 55:5 “You (Israel) shall call a nation you do not know, and nations who do not know you shall run to you, because of the Lord your God, and the holy One of Israel; for He has glorified you.”

The reverberations of Israel’s very soon-coming awakening are being felt worldwide. Tragically, even many churches and teachers are coming against Israel with a new satanic passion.

By the way, you can prove a post trib rapture if you get rid of Israel!

Part of the very reason for Satan’s creation of a new world order, one world government, economy and religion is a reverberation against the coming glory of Israel and God’s triumphant plans for them, even through much tribulation.

If Satan and his people can create a new world order, reaching up to God, just like at Babel, God’s plans for a new world order called the Millennium would be defeated.

It is the satanic ‘triumph’ of globalism that will be defeated in the greatest conflicts the world has ever seen – soon!

We are about to see the annexation of Judah and Samaria. This will cause major upheavals and conflict. It may well lead to the unfulfilled wars in the Middle East. All of this is a reverberation of the coming glorification of Israel, and expansion of the land.

Rapture reasons:

A major pre-tribulation rapture confirmation is seen in the fact that book of Revelation deals chronologically, with the church in the first four chapters, and the church is not seen again except in heaven, during the tribulation chapters through the rest of the Revelation.

The absence of the church in the tribulation is a powerful reason for the rapture itself and a pre-tribulation rapture.

Interestingly, the birth of the church at Pentecost was marked by the indwelling Spirit, the placing of the law in believer’s hearts, and the giving of the language of the church – tongues.

We see that there is coming a time when “tongues will cease” and prophecy will vanish away or dissipate over time. (1 Corinthians 13:8) The original word for “cease” means to cease in an instant, while the “vanishing away” takes place over time.

It is widely believed (and by me) that the instant “ceasing” is due to the rapture. Tongues are not evident in the tribulation but are in the entire church age.

The world is going crazy:

The forerunners to the catastrophes of the tribulation are lining up right now. They are:

•Plagues (disease) •Famines (evident in many nations) •Pestilences (locust invasion striking like never before right now) • Nations (ethnic) rising against nations (riots and social unrest) •Lawlessness (rioting, defunding the police) •Removal of the restrainer (increase wickedness and evil •One world currency (collapse of earnings and economic hardship) •One world religion (churches joining the agenda of the world) •Still to come are the big wars and all the natural upheavals.

All the craziness in the world currently, is a reverberation of the soon coming rapture. The world’s current upheavals and troubles are just a small glimpse of things to come under antichrist. Maranatha.........
Rapture Reverberations br By Joel Joseph br Resear... (show quote)




I think the rapture will be perceived as alien abductions. May be everyone that has been abducted will get pulled up on the same day?

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Mar 30, 2022 16:58:45   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
nonalien1 wrote:
I think the rapture will be perceived as alien abductions. May be everyone that has been abducted will get pulled up on the same day?
This will certainly be a different world if all who identify as Christians suddenly disappear.

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Mar 30, 2022 17:20:32   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
RascalRiley wrote:
This will certainly be a different world if all who identify as Christians suddenly disappear.


Certainly. The Christians are the only bit of sanity we have at this time God Bless Them

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Mar 30, 2022 17:31:49   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Certainly. The Christians are the only bit of sanity we have at this time God Bless Them

I think the world would become a better place.

I would be looking forward to it if wasn’t a fairytale.

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Mar 30, 2022 17:37:52   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I think the world would become a better place.

I would be looking forward to it if wasn’t a fairytale.


Wow. Didn't see that one coming. If the rapture happens it will prove the Bible is correct. And that means all hell is going to rain down on the ones left behind. If you think that is better you're a tougher man then I

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Mar 30, 2022 17:50:32   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Wow. Didn't see that one coming. If the rapture happens it will prove the Bible is correct. And that means all hell is going to rain down on the ones left behind. If you think that is better you're a tougher man then I

Well there is that aspect to the fairytale that I forget about.

I was thinking more of the Christians who think that they should be in control of everyone else’s lives

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Mar 30, 2022 18:10:05   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
ziggy88 wrote:
Rapture Reverberations
By Joel Joseph
Researched by Pastor Gary Boyd
June 9th 2020

Introduction:

These are the words of life!

The word “reverberation” means: A persistent sound that makes things seem to shake and vibrate, or a booming repeating wave that follows the initial event.

The rapture will blow our socks off for sure. It takes place in a flash, in an “atomo” (atomic moment) It will occur mysteriously, in the air, silently and out of sight to all unbelievers left behind. (It is the Second Coming that will be seen by all).

The rapture of the true church will be the event that causes reverberation, repercussions and rumblings around the world like echoing thunder, in the hearts, minds and souls of the left behind masses, as the shock sets in and the seven-year tribulation begins.

There will be howling, yelling and shouting in disbelief. The world will be crying, “me too?” “Don’t you know, God – ‘my life matters’?”

Isaiah 13:6-8 “Wail and howl for the day of the Lord (tribulation period) is at hand! It will come as destruction from the Almighty. Therefore all hands will be limp, everyman’s heart will melt and they will be afraid. Pangs and sorrow will take hold of them...Their faces will be like flames.”

But, as the rapture approaches, the reverberations are already starting. Just the teaching and sharing of it is causing the fists of many in opposition, to shake in reverberating anger at the teachers, the Bible, and God!

This edition is about rapture musings, meditations, appraisals and approvals, and about making the rapture opponents mad and angry.

A rapture reverberation is being seen right now in the rejection of rapture teaching by many churches. The rapture rattles their cage.

The greatest proof ever of a pre-tribulation rapture:

In plain sight, is this great and powerful fact and reason for the pre-trib rapture.

The Bible confirms in plain language in four passages that God works differently with man in the different dispensations. (Ephesians 1:10, 3:2, Hebrews 1:1, Colossians 1:25)

The dispensation of the law had specific unique characteristics. Salvation was not through the new-birth experience, but by simply believing and having salvation imputed to them. There was no indwelling Holy Spirit. They were not “new creations” as they are in the New Covenant.

Without going into all the details of Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy, it’s well accepted common knowledge that the Old Covenant dispensation is on hold for the church age, and will resume and be completed by the seven-year tribulation.

So, here’s the big thing: If the church is to go through just one second of the tribulation period, that would mean that the church would have to become un-born-again and un-Spirit filled and un-newly created! The true church would have to be de-churched and made tribulation saints. Do you think that’s going to happen? – It never will!

The destination of the church is heaven. Ultimately it will be the New Jerusalem, heaven, earth and the entire universe. But initially the destination of the church is heaven, and the destination of the tribulation saints is the Millennial earth. There’s a big difference!

Our Lord said: “I will come to receive you to be where I am.” (John 14:3) That is in heaven.

We see here proof supreme that the church cannot be part of the tribulation dispensation at all.

The relationship between the rapture and Israel:

Isaiah 66:19 “I will set a sign amongst them (Israel)...and they shall declare My glory amongst the Gentiles.”

Israel was born in a day on the 14th May 1948. (Isaiah 66:8) This foreshadows Israel’s spiritual birth, which will also begin in a day. Bear in mind that the entire tribulation period is also called “The Day of the Lord.”

What will be the grand sudden sign causing Israel to turn to their Messiah?

Zechariah 3:9 “...I will remove the iniquity of that land (Israel) in one day.”

The church was commanded by God to “take the gospel to the Jew first.” And, to “make the Jew jealous.” The church by and large ignored this and did the opposite.

It is the rapture of the church that will have the most dramatic reverberations amongst the unsaved Jews, left behind. They will immediately become angry and jealous that God has left them, the chosen people behind! (Romans 10:19)

So, finally, in its last breath on earth, every member of the true church suddenly obeys God’s command to take the good news to the Jew and make them jealous, through the rapture!

The rapture itself becomes the great, glorious sign and message. The rapture will shock the hell of the Jews. The rapture will make them instantly angry at God and jealous of the church.

But very quickly Israel will repent and suddenly recognize who their Messiah is, turn to Him, worship Him, clean their acts up, and become the world’s greatest evangelists, in the tribulation.

Isaiah 49:6 “I also will give you (Israel) as a light to the Gentles, that you should be My salvation to the ends of the earth.”

Isaiah 55:5 “You (Israel) shall call a nation you do not know, and nations who do not know you shall run to you, because of the Lord your God, and the holy One of Israel; for He has glorified you.”

The reverberations of Israel’s very soon-coming awakening are being felt worldwide. Tragically, even many churches and teachers are coming against Israel with a new satanic passion.

By the way, you can prove a post trib rapture if you get rid of Israel!

Part of the very reason for Satan’s creation of a new world order, one world government, economy and religion is a reverberation against the coming glory of Israel and God’s triumphant plans for them, even through much tribulation.

If Satan and his people can create a new world order, reaching up to God, just like at Babel, God’s plans for a new world order called the Millennium would be defeated.

It is the satanic ‘triumph’ of globalism that will be defeated in the greatest conflicts the world has ever seen – soon!

We are about to see the annexation of Judah and Samaria. This will cause major upheavals and conflict. It may well lead to the unfulfilled wars in the Middle East. All of this is a reverberation of the coming glorification of Israel, and expansion of the land.

Rapture reasons:

A major pre-tribulation rapture confirmation is seen in the fact that book of Revelation deals chronologically, with the church in the first four chapters, and the church is not seen again except in heaven, during the tribulation chapters through the rest of the Revelation.

The absence of the church in the tribulation is a powerful reason for the rapture itself and a pre-tribulation rapture.

Interestingly, the birth of the church at Pentecost was marked by the indwelling Spirit, the placing of the law in believer’s hearts, and the giving of the language of the church – tongues.

We see that there is coming a time when “tongues will cease” and prophecy will vanish away or dissipate over time. (1 Corinthians 13:8) The original word for “cease” means to cease in an instant, while the “vanishing away” takes place over time.

It is widely believed (and by me) that the instant “ceasing” is due to the rapture. Tongues are not evident in the tribulation but are in the entire church age.

The world is going crazy:

The forerunners to the catastrophes of the tribulation are lining up right now. They are:

•Plagues (disease) •Famines (evident in many nations) •Pestilences (locust invasion striking like never before right now) • Nations (ethnic) rising against nations (riots and social unrest) •Lawlessness (rioting, defunding the police) •Removal of the restrainer (increase wickedness and evil •One world currency (collapse of earnings and economic hardship) •One world religion (churches joining the agenda of the world) •Still to come are the big wars and all the natural upheavals.

All the craziness in the world currently, is a reverberation of the soon coming rapture. The world’s current upheavals and troubles are just a small glimpse of things to come under antichrist. Maranatha.........
Rapture Reverberations br By Joel Joseph br Resear... (show quote)

I used to follow Joel Joseph. At one point he tried setting dates on the timing of the rapture, 2017-18 if I remember correctly. I stopped following him soon after that.

The pre-tribulation rapture is not biblical. The pre-wrath rapture is.

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Mar 30, 2022 18:15:37   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Parky60 wrote:
I used to follow Joel Joseph. At one point he tried setting dates on the timing of the rapture, 2017-18 if I remember correctly. I stopped following him soon after that.

The pre-tribulation rapture is not biblical. The pre-wrath rapture is.
Being biblical makes it truth for some.

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Mar 30, 2022 18:19:01   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Being biblical makes it truth for some.

Being biblical IS truth. You following the wicked one without realizing it makes you blinded to that fact.

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Mar 30, 2022 18:23:14   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Parky60 wrote:
Being biblical IS truth. You following the wicked one without realizing it makes you blinded to that fact.
I do not follow any imaginary entities.

I do not lead a wicked life.

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Mar 30, 2022 18:31:42   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
RascalRiley wrote:
...I do not lead a wicked life.

For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23

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Mar 30, 2022 18:36:03   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Parky60 wrote:
For ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23
Parky. We have no common ground.

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Mar 30, 2022 18:39:44   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Parky. We have no common ground.

If you're not a believer, why did you even post in this thread other than maybe to feel superior?

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Mar 30, 2022 19:02:48   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Parky60 wrote:
If you're not a believer, why did you even post in this thread other than maybe to feel superior?

Because you post this stuff as if it truth.
It is not truth. It is speculation.
Without the other side this site would become just another echo chamber.

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