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May 23, 2013 17:07:53   #
grazeem Loc: Arizona
 
The residents of many of those states, those in the Deep South, would dearly love to see Medicaid expansion, a new survey suggests. Families USA polled in Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi and South Carolina—all states where Republicans governors and legislatures have rejected the expansion—and found that 62 percent of respondents in those states support Medicaid expansion.

And you say that Republicans are doing the will of the people.

Well in this case they are, 42% anyway

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May 23, 2013 17:25:03   #
Yankee Clipper
 
grazeem wrote:
The residents of many of those states, those in the Deep South, would dearly love to see Medicaid expansion, a new survey suggests. Families USA polled in Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi and South Carolina—all states where Republicans governors and legislatures have rejected the expansion—and found that 62 percent of respondents in those states support Medicaid expansion.

And you say that Republicans are doing the will of the people.

Well in this case they are, 42% anyway
The residents of many of those states, those in th... (show quote)


Because of family ties and having went to college in Mississippi, it would be easy to come up with those numbers. Out of about 3.5 million residents only about 800,000 pay taxes in Mississippi. So it would be easy asking the question the right way to get the 2.7 million to say they support Medicaid expansion. They don't pay the taxes to do so. I would think that the situation is similar in several other states you listed. In Mississippi there is no way for those paying taxes to cover the expenses of expansion and the Feds are only guaranteeing to help cover cost for a couple of years. My numbers may not be exact, but I know they are close. I haven't checked for some years now, but if they have changed I would think the change would be in a favorable direction.

All the states that have expanded there Medicaid will be paying the price when the government stops supporting the increase and the states have to come up with it all. This is just another way to single payer which is what the Marxist in this country want.

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May 23, 2013 18:20:34   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Yankee Clipper wrote:
Because of family ties and having went to college in Mississippi, it would be easy to come up with those numbers. Out of about 3.5 million residents only about 800,000 pay taxes in Mississippi. So it would be easy asking the question the right way to get the 2.7 million to say they support Medicaid expansion. They don't pay the taxes to do so. I would think that the situation is similar in several other states you listed. In Mississippi there is no way for those paying taxes to cover the expenses of expansion and the Feds are only guaranteeing to help cover cost for a couple of years. My numbers may not be exact, but I know they are close. I haven't checked for some years now, but if they have changed I would think the change would be in a favorable direction.

All the states that have expanded there Medicaid will be paying the price when the government stops supporting the increase and the states have to come up with it all. This is just another way to single payer which is what the Marxist in this country want.
b color=red Because of family ties and having we... (show quote)


Too much truth, like who votes and who doesn't along with how you ask your questions would surely have something to do with all this. I don't think the tax payers in those states really know what happens to them after the first 2 years of this garbage. I am sure that many of them don't know the federal government will be backing out by then. From some other things that have been found in the Obamacare law they may be out as soon as one year after establishment of this foolishness.

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May 23, 2013 19:36:24   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
grazeem wrote:
The residents of many of those states, those in the Deep South, would dearly love to see Medicaid expansion, a new survey suggests. Families USA polled in Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi and South Carolina—all states where Republicans governors and legislatures have rejected the expansion—and found that 62 percent of respondents in those states support Medicaid expansion.

And you say that Republicans are doing the will of the people.

Well in this case they are, 42% anyway
The residents of many of those states, those in th... (show quote)


You provide, as usual, anything but blanket statements.

1. Who did the survey?
2. How many people were surveyed?
3. What time of day was the survey done
4. Most IMPORTANTLY, EXACTLY what were the questions asked?

I could do a similar survey and obtain an entirely different result.

The will of the people locally is solvency.

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May 23, 2013 19:43:03   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
AuntiE wrote:
You provide, as usual, anything but blanket statements.

1. Who did the survey?
2. How many people were surveyed?
3. What time of day was the survey done
4. Most IMPORTANTLY, EXACTLY what were the questions asked?

I could do a similar survey and obtain an entirely different result.

The will of the people locally is solvency.


Are you intimating that if the survey was taken during the day when most of the taxpayers were at work and those who don't work were probably at home the results would have been different? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I am always happy to accept the results of Rasmussen polls since they are done in the evening, but some people work at night. I wonder how many of these people have ever worked with polls or surveys.

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May 23, 2013 20:06:24   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
oldroy wrote:
Are you intimating that if the survey was taken during the day when most of the taxpayers were at work and those who don't work were probably at home the results would have been different? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I am always happy to accept the results of Rasmussen polls since they are done in the evening, but some people work at night. I wonder how many of these people have ever worked with polls or surveys.


I was inferring the possibility concerning the time of day.

Rasmussen does do more evening; however, it is my understanding they spread it over a timeframe catching individuals before their evening shift or arriving after a late morning or afternoon shift. Geez, I am not even sure I wrote that so anyone would understand. Let me try it this way. You work 11AM-7PM, arrive home 7:30PM and take survey. You work 11PM -7AM, you get survey call during early evening. hopefully, better for clarity.

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May 23, 2013 23:52:27   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
AuntiE wrote:
I was inferring the possibility concerning the time of day.

Rasmussen does do more evening; however, it is my understanding they spread it over a timeframe catching individuals before their evening shift or arriving after a late morning or afternoon shift. Geez, I am not even sure I wrote that so anyone would understand. Let me try it this way. You work 11AM-7PM, arrive home 7:30PM and take survey. You work 11PM -7AM, you get survey call during early evening. hopefully, better for clarity.
I was inferring the possibility concerning the tim... (show quote)


That is how Rasmussen operates and not how the others do it. They want their polls to be more true to form and make it.

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May 24, 2013 16:40:44   #
alfromfl
 
Wonder what the republicans in those states think? Medicaid expansion is a fool's errand. The federal gov't is going broke and the states should depend upon the feds for funding? It's time to fund those really in need and let the rest find a job.

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May 24, 2013 17:35:10   #
Yankee Clipper
 
alfromfl wrote:
Wonder what the republicans in those states think? Medicaid expansion is a fool's errand. The federal gov't is going broke and the states should depend upon the feds for funding? It's time to fund those really in need and let the rest find a job.


alfromfl, Well put. Some of the rest won't find a job, they however will either become part of the criminal element to survive without working or will continue that trade without government assistance. It may be a chance to thin the herd a bit and clean up the gene pool. Of course some will find employment and become productive citizens.

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May 24, 2013 18:58:57   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
AuntiE wrote:
I was inferring the possibility concerning the time of day.

Rasmussen does do more evening; however, it is my understanding they spread it over a timeframe catching individuals before their evening shift or arriving after a late morning or afternoon shift. Geez, I am not even sure I wrote that so anyone would understand. Let me try it this way. You work 11AM-7PM, arrive home 7:30PM and take survey. You work 11PM -7AM, you get survey call during early evening. hopefully, better for clarity.
I was inferring the possibility concerning the tim... (show quote)


Then there are the owners and managers, who work 24/7, or so it seems. Before I retired, 60 hours was a light work week for me, 9 AM until midnight or later being more common. I have never been contacted for any sort of survey, despite being a property owner, and either owning or managing a business, and it's not like I lived in the boondocks these last few years, and was difficult to find. I know several other people in the same situation, who make what some would call "good money," (like there is such a thing as "bad money?"). People who make a better than average living have a tendency to spend a great deal of their waking hours at their jobs, in my case, more than at their homes, frequently.

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May 24, 2013 20:43:15   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
banjojack wrote:
Then there are the owners and managers, who work 24/7, or so it seems. Before I retired, 60 hours was a light work week for me, 9 AM until midnight or later being more common. I have never been contacted for any sort of survey, despite being a property owner, and either owning or managing a business, and it's not like I lived in the boondocks these last few years, and was difficult to find. I know several other people in the same situation, who make what some would call "good money," (like there is such a thing as "bad money?"). People who make a better than average living have a tendency to spend a great deal of their waking hours at their jobs, in my case, more than at their homes, frequently.
Then there are the owners and managers, who work 2... (show quote)


Our household has received no polls on major issues. We have received a few on stupid things such as what local radio station do we listen to, etc.

The advantage of keeping long work hours is your home does not get cluttered or dirty from your presence. ;)

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May 24, 2013 20:47:53   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
AuntiE wrote:
Our household has received no polls on major issues. We have received a few on stupid things such as what local radio station do we listen to, etc.

The advantage of keeping long work hours is your home does not get cluttered or dirty from your presence. ;)


Like most people, you have seriously underestimated my ability to make a mess.

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May 25, 2013 00:59:43   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
banjojack wrote:
Like most people, you have seriously underestimated my ability to make a mess.


It's the gun oil. :lol:

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May 25, 2013 01:03:07   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
AuntiE wrote:
It's the gun oil. :lol:


How did you guess?

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May 25, 2013 01:10:23   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
banjojack wrote:
How did you guess?


I am with the IRS (NOT) and am monitoring you through the screen. :D

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