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Jan 29, 2022 20:03:00   #
rumitoid
 
[My lung cancer surgery was cancelled because of a Covid surge that took up all the intake beds; that was a month and a half ago. That delay caused problems in re-scheduling. Other complications developed because of it. A decision will be made about the possibility of the operation on 2/3. What once appeared to be a manageable procedure over a small spot of cancer is now being reviewed. This is not a unique problem but a common one, which does not seem to be something the Anti-vaxxers considered. That is just a fact. I am not against an Anti-vaxxer being treated for the virus; that is not humane. However, such a decision as to refuse sound medical advice that threatens the general public should know what such a decision may entail and consider it.

[If I race through a residential neighborhood at 80 because I feel that Speed Limits somehow violate my "personal freedom" and I kill one or people due to that recklessness, I should not get a gold star as a patriot.]

Portsmouth Herald
D. Allan Kerr
Fri, January 28, 2022, 9:00 PM


Apparently, folks who don’t want to get vaccinated against COVID feel they’re being persecuted for what they consider a personal choice. Their thinking, I guess, is if others are safe from the coronavirus after getting jabbed, why does everyone else have to do so as well?

But seems to me anti-vaxers don’t have any such reluctance to take up hospital beds when they suffer serious effects of COVID themselves, which seems kind of hypocritical. I mean, if you’re going to commit, then commit all the way.

Walk the walk, baby. Otherwise, you’re just making a half-assed stand – denouncing medicine that could save you if you get hit with this thing, but then embracing it when you wind up suffering the consequence of your own actions.

If you reject the jab, reject the hospital bed as well.

That’s one of the reasons vaccinated people get annoyed with the anti-vaxers. Those who reject vaccines claim it’s nobody’s business but their own, but whenever there’s a COVID-related surge hospitals seem to run out of beds, and the anti-vaxxers are taking up a lot of them.

As a result, other folks who need medical care are not getting the attention they need. In December, the ICU of Dover’s Wentworth-Douglass Hospital was at more than 100 percent capacity. Maine Gov. Janet Mills recently deployed the National Guard in her state to assist overburdened hospital staffers.

Just recently there was a news article about a Massachusetts pizza shop owner who died, after contracting COVID, while waiting to get transferred to a hospital where he could be properly treated. This 68-year-old gentleman was at a Southbridge, Massachusetts, hospital but when his kidneys started shutting down, that facility could no longer provide the care he needed.

His family contacted hospitals within a 75-mile radius trying to find one with available space, according to USA Today, but by the time they found a place in Connecticut, he was too sick to be transferred. He died this past December.

The deceased shop owner wasn’t vaccinated, and in fact “didn’t believe” in it. I’m not mentioning this private citizen by name because it’s not essential to this piece – the intent isn’t to mock or diminish the poor guy, but to illustrate a point.

Sometimes, when someone who’s taken the jab winds up testing positive for COVID, we hear anti-vaxers try to point it out as evidence the vaccine doesn’t work. They’re being disingenuous, of course, sometimes willfully. Just about every responsible medical professional will tell you the vaccine is not a guarantee against attracting COVID, but it hugely decreases the likelihood you will die from it.

I’ve asked myself more than once how many stories anti-vaxxers have to hear of like-minded folks who opposed vaccines, became ill from the coronavirus they had downplayed, and then expressed regret from their death bed. At one point last summer, a string of conservative talk radio hosts – including one who called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” – downplaying COVID concerns all wound up dying after they were hit with it.

Marc Bernier, the 65-year-old Florida radio host who called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax,” wound up being hospitalized with COVID-19 for three weeks before he died last August. Earlier that same month, another 65-year-old Florida host named Dick Farrel, who had called Dr. Anthony Fauci a “power tripping lying freak,” also died from COVID. But not before texting friends and urging them to take the shot he had rejected.

“He told me this virus is no joke and he said, ‘I wish I had gotten it!” one of his friends reported after Farrel’s death.

When yet another conservative 65-year-old radio host – Nashville, Tennessee’s Phil Valentine – was hospitalized with COVID last summer, he posted on his Facebook page, “Yes, the rumors are true. I have COVID. Unfortunately for the haters out there, it looks like I'm going to make it.”

A couple weeks later, his station released this statement:

“Phil would like for his listeners to know that while he has never been an ‘anti-vaxer’ he regrets not being more vehemently ‘pro-vaccine,’ and looks forward to being able to more vigorously advocate that position as soon as he is back on the air, which we all hope will be soon.”

But Valentine didn’t get that chance. He too died in August, the same month as his Florida colleagues.

Caleb Wallace of Texas was only 30 years old when he died from COVID that same August, leaving behind three kids and a pregnant wife. As founder of a group called the San Angelo Freedom Defenders, Wallace had organized rallies against masks and mandates.

To his credit, Wallace didn’t want to go to the hospital when he got sick – not because he opposed taking a bed from some other patient but, according to his wife, because he didn’t want to add to COVID statistics. In fact, he initially refused to get tested, even after displaying symptoms. He treated himself by taking Vitamin C, aspirin and the livestock dewormer ivermectin.

By the time he did go to a hospital, it was too late to do anything for him. He had to go on a ventilator and his wife had to start a GoFundMe page to help pay medical bills.

Again, these deaths all occurred during just one month last summer.

By refusing to take the shot, a sizable chunk of the population is keeping COVID and its various strains alive and thriving, which also annoys those who want to tame the coronavirus. One could argue these folks are just wiping each other out, but that wouldn’t be very nice to say.

I just recently had a positive test result and it hasn’t been a pleasant experience. But I received the vaccine last year and, after some nagging from my 80-year-old mother, got the booster shot this month.

So, it could be worse. At least I’m not adding to the burden of overworked local hospitals.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kerr-reject-vaccine-reject-hospital-040004460.html

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Jan 29, 2022 20:28:56   #
EmilyD
 
rumitoid wrote:
[My lung cancer surgery was cancelled because of a Covid surge that took up all the intake beds; that was a month and a half ago. That delay caused problems in re-scheduling. Other complications developed because of it. A decision will be made about the possibility of the operation on 2/3. What once appeared to be a manageable procedure over a small spot of cancer is now being reviewed. This is not a unique problem but a common one, which does not seem to be something the Anti-vaxxers considered. That is just a fact. I am not against an Anti-vaxxer being treated for the virus; that is not humane. However, such a decision as to refuse sound medical advice that threatens the general public should know what such a decision may entail and consider it.

[If I race through a residential neighborhood at 80 because I feel that Speed Limits somehow violate my "personal freedom" and I kill one or people due to that recklessness, I should not get a gold star as a patriot.]

Portsmouth Herald
D. Allan Kerr
Fri, January 28, 2022, 9:00 PM


Apparently, folks who don’t want to get vaccinated against COVID feel they’re being persecuted for what they consider a personal choice. Their thinking, I guess, is if others are safe from the coronavirus after getting jabbed, why does everyone else have to do so as well?

But seems to me anti-vaxers don’t have any such reluctance to take up hospital beds when they suffer serious effects of COVID themselves, which seems kind of hypocritical. I mean, if you’re going to commit, then commit all the way.

Walk the walk, baby. Otherwise, you’re just making a half-assed stand – denouncing medicine that could save you if you get hit with this thing, but then embracing it when you wind up suffering the consequence of your own actions.

If you reject the jab, reject the hospital bed as well.

That’s one of the reasons vaccinated people get annoyed with the anti-vaxers. Those who reject vaccines claim it’s nobody’s business but their own, but whenever there’s a COVID-related surge hospitals seem to run out of beds, and the anti-vaxxers are taking up a lot of them.

As a result, other folks who need medical care are not getting the attention they need. In December, the ICU of Dover’s Wentworth-Douglass Hospital was at more than 100 percent capacity. Maine Gov. Janet Mills recently deployed the National Guard in her state to assist overburdened hospital staffers.

Just recently there was a news article about a Massachusetts pizza shop owner who died, after contracting COVID, while waiting to get transferred to a hospital where he could be properly treated. This 68-year-old gentleman was at a Southbridge, Massachusetts, hospital but when his kidneys started shutting down, that facility could no longer provide the care he needed.

His family contacted hospitals within a 75-mile radius trying to find one with available space, according to USA Today, but by the time they found a place in Connecticut, he was too sick to be transferred. He died this past December.

The deceased shop owner wasn’t vaccinated, and in fact “didn’t believe” in it. I’m not mentioning this private citizen by name because it’s not essential to this piece – the intent isn’t to mock or diminish the poor guy, but to illustrate a point.

Sometimes, when someone who’s taken the jab winds up testing positive for COVID, we hear anti-vaxers try to point it out as evidence the vaccine doesn’t work. They’re being disingenuous, of course, sometimes willfully. Just about every responsible medical professional will tell you the vaccine is not a guarantee against attracting COVID, but it hugely decreases the likelihood you will die from it.

I’ve asked myself more than once how many stories anti-vaxxers have to hear of like-minded folks who opposed vaccines, became ill from the coronavirus they had downplayed, and then expressed regret from their death bed. At one point last summer, a string of conservative talk radio hosts – including one who called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” – downplaying COVID concerns all wound up dying after they were hit with it.

Marc Bernier, the 65-year-old Florida radio host who called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax,” wound up being hospitalized with COVID-19 for three weeks before he died last August. Earlier that same month, another 65-year-old Florida host named Dick Farrel, who had called Dr. Anthony Fauci a “power tripping lying freak,” also died from COVID. But not before texting friends and urging them to take the shot he had rejected.

“He told me this virus is no joke and he said, ‘I wish I had gotten it!” one of his friends reported after Farrel’s death.

When yet another conservative 65-year-old radio host – Nashville, Tennessee’s Phil Valentine – was hospitalized with COVID last summer, he posted on his Facebook page, “Yes, the rumors are true. I have COVID. Unfortunately for the haters out there, it looks like I'm going to make it.”

A couple weeks later, his station released this statement:

“Phil would like for his listeners to know that while he has never been an ‘anti-vaxer’ he regrets not being more vehemently ‘pro-vaccine,’ and looks forward to being able to more vigorously advocate that position as soon as he is back on the air, which we all hope will be soon.”

But Valentine didn’t get that chance. He too died in August, the same month as his Florida colleagues.

Caleb Wallace of Texas was only 30 years old when he died from COVID that same August, leaving behind three kids and a pregnant wife. As founder of a group called the San Angelo Freedom Defenders, Wallace had organized rallies against masks and mandates.

To his credit, Wallace didn’t want to go to the hospital when he got sick – not because he opposed taking a bed from some other patient but, according to his wife, because he didn’t want to add to COVID statistics. In fact, he initially refused to get tested, even after displaying symptoms. He treated himself by taking Vitamin C, aspirin and the livestock dewormer ivermectin.

By the time he did go to a hospital, it was too late to do anything for him. He had to go on a ventilator and his wife had to start a GoFundMe page to help pay medical bills.

Again, these deaths all occurred during just one month last summer.

By refusing to take the shot, a sizable chunk of the population is keeping COVID and its various strains alive and thriving, which also annoys those who want to tame the coronavirus. One could argue these folks are just wiping each other out, but that wouldn’t be very nice to say.

I just recently had a positive test result and it hasn’t been a pleasant experience. But I received the vaccine last year and, after some nagging from my 80-year-old mother, got the booster shot this month.

So, it could be worse. At least I’m not adding to the burden of overworked local hospitals.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kerr-reject-vaccine-reject-hospital-040004460.html
My lung cancer surgery was cancelled because of a... (show quote)


Chances are, the beds are going to be needed by the vaccinated more, anyway. There are more reasons for them to need those beds. They can get sick from Covid and/or its variants, have adverse reactions from the vaccine, and have both of those at the same time. The unvaxxed can get sick from Covid, but the chances of recovering from it is in the upper 98 percentile (even in the elderly) so no biggie if they DO get it. YOU should know this better than anyone, given your supposed medical situation!!!

And there is absolutely NO proof whatsoever that the vaccinated have less symptoms and don't need hospitalization as much as the unvaxxed. There is no evidence that shows that to be a fact - it's just a theory by the ones who are pushing this because it's their POLITICAL agenda.

If there's nothing else to know about these drugs that are being called a vaccine, you should at least know this one thing: One size does NOT fit all. What works for you may not work for someone else and vice versa.

So STOP, STOP. STOP spreading this FEAR PORN, rumitoid. Do what you need to do, but stop trying to coerce others to do what you think they should do.....it may kill them!!!!!

This is who D. Allen Kerr (the author of your one-sided, biased article) is...in his own words, from his FaceBook page: "Just an ex-dockworker, former newspaperman and U.S. Navy veteran living in Maine and trying to make sense of the world in the 21st century."

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Jan 29, 2022 20:36:43   #
Liberty Tree
 
rumitoid wrote:
[My lung cancer surgery was cancelled because of a Covid surge that took up all the intake beds; that was a month and a half ago. That delay caused problems in re-scheduling. Other complications developed because of it. A decision will be made about the possibility of the operation on 2/3. What once appeared to be a manageable procedure over a small spot of cancer is now being reviewed. This is not a unique problem but a common one, which does not seem to be something the Anti-vaxxers considered. That is just a fact. I am not against an Anti-vaxxer being treated for the virus; that is not humane. However, such a decision as to refuse sound medical advice that threatens the general public should know what such a decision may entail and consider it.

[If I race through a residential neighborhood at 80 because I feel that Speed Limits somehow violate my "personal freedom" and I kill one or people due to that recklessness, I should not get a gold star as a patriot.]

Portsmouth Herald
D. Allan Kerr
Fri, January 28, 2022, 9:00 PM


Apparently, folks who don’t want to get vaccinated against COVID feel they’re being persecuted for what they consider a personal choice. Their thinking, I guess, is if others are safe from the coronavirus after getting jabbed, why does everyone else have to do so as well?

But seems to me anti-vaxers don’t have any such reluctance to take up hospital beds when they suffer serious effects of COVID themselves, which seems kind of hypocritical. I mean, if you’re going to commit, then commit all the way.

Walk the walk, baby. Otherwise, you’re just making a half-assed stand – denouncing medicine that could save you if you get hit with this thing, but then embracing it when you wind up suffering the consequence of your own actions.

If you reject the jab, reject the hospital bed as well.

That’s one of the reasons vaccinated people get annoyed with the anti-vaxers. Those who reject vaccines claim it’s nobody’s business but their own, but whenever there’s a COVID-related surge hospitals seem to run out of beds, and the anti-vaxxers are taking up a lot of them.

As a result, other folks who need medical care are not getting the attention they need. In December, the ICU of Dover’s Wentworth-Douglass Hospital was at more than 100 percent capacity. Maine Gov. Janet Mills recently deployed the National Guard in her state to assist overburdened hospital staffers.

Just recently there was a news article about a Massachusetts pizza shop owner who died, after contracting COVID, while waiting to get transferred to a hospital where he could be properly treated. This 68-year-old gentleman was at a Southbridge, Massachusetts, hospital but when his kidneys started shutting down, that facility could no longer provide the care he needed.

His family contacted hospitals within a 75-mile radius trying to find one with available space, according to USA Today, but by the time they found a place in Connecticut, he was too sick to be transferred. He died this past December.

The deceased shop owner wasn’t vaccinated, and in fact “didn’t believe” in it. I’m not mentioning this private citizen by name because it’s not essential to this piece – the intent isn’t to mock or diminish the poor guy, but to illustrate a point.

Sometimes, when someone who’s taken the jab winds up testing positive for COVID, we hear anti-vaxers try to point it out as evidence the vaccine doesn’t work. They’re being disingenuous, of course, sometimes willfully. Just about every responsible medical professional will tell you the vaccine is not a guarantee against attracting COVID, but it hugely decreases the likelihood you will die from it.

I’ve asked myself more than once how many stories anti-vaxxers have to hear of like-minded folks who opposed vaccines, became ill from the coronavirus they had downplayed, and then expressed regret from their death bed. At one point last summer, a string of conservative talk radio hosts – including one who called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” – downplaying COVID concerns all wound up dying after they were hit with it.

Marc Bernier, the 65-year-old Florida radio host who called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax,” wound up being hospitalized with COVID-19 for three weeks before he died last August. Earlier that same month, another 65-year-old Florida host named Dick Farrel, who had called Dr. Anthony Fauci a “power tripping lying freak,” also died from COVID. But not before texting friends and urging them to take the shot he had rejected.

“He told me this virus is no joke and he said, ‘I wish I had gotten it!” one of his friends reported after Farrel’s death.

When yet another conservative 65-year-old radio host – Nashville, Tennessee’s Phil Valentine – was hospitalized with COVID last summer, he posted on his Facebook page, “Yes, the rumors are true. I have COVID. Unfortunately for the haters out there, it looks like I'm going to make it.”

A couple weeks later, his station released this statement:

“Phil would like for his listeners to know that while he has never been an ‘anti-vaxer’ he regrets not being more vehemently ‘pro-vaccine,’ and looks forward to being able to more vigorously advocate that position as soon as he is back on the air, which we all hope will be soon.”

But Valentine didn’t get that chance. He too died in August, the same month as his Florida colleagues.

Caleb Wallace of Texas was only 30 years old when he died from COVID that same August, leaving behind three kids and a pregnant wife. As founder of a group called the San Angelo Freedom Defenders, Wallace had organized rallies against masks and mandates.

To his credit, Wallace didn’t want to go to the hospital when he got sick – not because he opposed taking a bed from some other patient but, according to his wife, because he didn’t want to add to COVID statistics. In fact, he initially refused to get tested, even after displaying symptoms. He treated himself by taking Vitamin C, aspirin and the livestock dewormer ivermectin.

By the time he did go to a hospital, it was too late to do anything for him. He had to go on a ventilator and his wife had to start a GoFundMe page to help pay medical bills.

Again, these deaths all occurred during just one month last summer.

By refusing to take the shot, a sizable chunk of the population is keeping COVID and its various strains alive and thriving, which also annoys those who want to tame the coronavirus. One could argue these folks are just wiping each other out, but that wouldn’t be very nice to say.

I just recently had a positive test result and it hasn’t been a pleasant experience. But I received the vaccine last year and, after some nagging from my 80-year-old mother, got the booster shot this month.

So, it could be worse. At least I’m not adding to the burden of overworked local hospitals.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kerr-reject-vaccine-reject-hospital-040004460.html
My lung cancer surgery was cancelled because of a... (show quote)


If the one who wrote this a smoker? If so is he going to reject cancer treatment or be a hypocrit.

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Jan 29, 2022 20:43:25   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
If the one who wrote this a smoker? If so is he going to reject cancer treatment or be a hypocrit.

Exactly what I was thinking. My money is on hypocrite. Plus much of what he’s stating regarding faxed or not faxed is BS.

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Jan 29, 2022 20:44:32   #
Liberty Tree
 
EmilyD wrote:
Chances are, the beds are going to be needed by the vaccinated more, anyway. There are more reasons for them to need those beds. They can get sick from Covid and/or its variants, have adverse reactions from the vaccine, and have both of those at the same time. The unvaxxed can get sick from Covid, but the chances of recovering from it is in the upper 98 percentile (even in the elderly) so no biggie if they DO get it. YOU should know this better than anyone, given your supposed medical situation!!!

And there is absolutely NO proof whatsoever that the vaccinated have less symptoms and don't need hospitalization as much as the unvaxxed. There is no evidence that shows that to be a fact - it's just a theory by the ones who are pushing this because it's their POLITICAL agenda.

If there's nothing else to know about these drugs that are being called a vaccine, you should at least know this one thing: One size does NOT fit all. What works for you may not work for someone else and vice versa.

So STOP, STOP. STOP spreading this FEAR PORN, rumitoid. Do what you need to do, but stop trying to coerce others to do what you think they should do.....it may kill them!!!!!

This is who D. Allen Kerr (the author of your one-sided, biased article) is...in his own words, from his FaceBook page: "Just an ex-dockworker, former newspaperman and U.S. Navy veteran living in Maine and trying to make sense of the world in the 21st century."
Chances are, the beds are going to be needed by th... (show quote)


You are right in that liberals never let facts get in the way of their agenda.

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Jan 29, 2022 20:50:45   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
EmilyD wrote:
Chances are, the beds are going to be needed by the vaccinated more, anyway. There are more reasons for them to need those beds. They can get sick from Covid and/or its variants, have adverse reactions from the vaccine, and have both of those at the same time. The unvaxxed can get sick from Covid, but the chances of recovering from it is in the upper 98 percentile (even in the elderly) so no biggie if they DO get it. YOU should know this better than anyone, given your supposed medical situation!!!

And there is absolutely NO proof whatsoever that the vaccinated have less symptoms and don't need hospitalization as much as the unvaxxed. There is no evidence that shows that to be a fact - it's just a theory by the ones who are pushing this because it's their POLITICAL agenda.

If there's nothing else to know about these drugs that are being called a vaccine, you should at least know this one thing: One size does NOT fit all. What works for you may not work for someone else and vice versa.

So STOP, STOP. STOP spreading this FEAR PORN, rumitoid. Do what you need to do, but stop trying to coerce others to do what you think they should do.....it may kill them!!!!!

This is who D. Allen Kerr (the author of your one-sided, biased article) is...in his own words, from his FaceBook page: "Just an ex-dockworker, former newspaperman and U.S. Navy veteran living in Maine and trying to make sense of the world in the 21st century."
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Opinion: yeah whatever 🙄

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Jan 29, 2022 20:54:12   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
Opinion: yeah whatever 🙄

You’ve done it again Magoo. So insightful.



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Jan 29, 2022 21:15:19   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
rumitoid wrote:
[My lung cancer surgery was cancelled because of a Covid surge that took up all the intake beds; that was a month and a half ago. That delay caused problems in re-scheduling. Other complications developed because of it. A decision will be made about the possibility of the operation on 2/3. What once appeared to be a manageable procedure over a small spot of cancer is now being reviewed. This is not a unique problem but a common one, which does not seem to be something the Anti-vaxxers considered. That is just a fact. I am not against an Anti-vaxxer being treated for the virus; that is not humane. However, such a decision as to refuse sound medical advice that threatens the general public should know what such a decision may entail and consider it.

[If I race through a residential neighborhood at 80 because I feel that Speed Limits somehow violate my "personal freedom" and I kill one or people due to that recklessness, I should not get a gold star as a patriot.]

Portsmouth Herald
D. Allan Kerr
Fri, January 28, 2022, 9:00 PM


Apparently, folks who don’t want to get vaccinated against COVID feel they’re being persecuted for what they consider a personal choice. Their thinking, I guess, is if others are safe from the coronavirus after getting jabbed, why does everyone else have to do so as well?

But seems to me anti-vaxers don’t have any such reluctance to take up hospital beds when they suffer serious effects of COVID themselves, which seems kind of hypocritical. I mean, if you’re going to commit, then commit all the way.

Walk the walk, baby. Otherwise, you’re just making a half-assed stand – denouncing medicine that could save you if you get hit with this thing, but then embracing it when you wind up suffering the consequence of your own actions.

If you reject the jab, reject the hospital bed as well.

That’s one of the reasons vaccinated people get annoyed with the anti-vaxers. Those who reject vaccines claim it’s nobody’s business but their own, but whenever there’s a COVID-related surge hospitals seem to run out of beds, and the anti-vaxxers are taking up a lot of them.

As a result, other folks who need medical care are not getting the attention they need. In December, the ICU of Dover’s Wentworth-Douglass Hospital was at more than 100 percent capacity. Maine Gov. Janet Mills recently deployed the National Guard in her state to assist overburdened hospital staffers.

Just recently there was a news article about a Massachusetts pizza shop owner who died, after contracting COVID, while waiting to get transferred to a hospital where he could be properly treated. This 68-year-old gentleman was at a Southbridge, Massachusetts, hospital but when his kidneys started shutting down, that facility could no longer provide the care he needed.

His family contacted hospitals within a 75-mile radius trying to find one with available space, according to USA Today, but by the time they found a place in Connecticut, he was too sick to be transferred. He died this past December.

The deceased shop owner wasn’t vaccinated, and in fact “didn’t believe” in it. I’m not mentioning this private citizen by name because it’s not essential to this piece – the intent isn’t to mock or diminish the poor guy, but to illustrate a point.

Sometimes, when someone who’s taken the jab winds up testing positive for COVID, we hear anti-vaxers try to point it out as evidence the vaccine doesn’t work. They’re being disingenuous, of course, sometimes willfully. Just about every responsible medical professional will tell you the vaccine is not a guarantee against attracting COVID, but it hugely decreases the likelihood you will die from it.

I’ve asked myself more than once how many stories anti-vaxxers have to hear of like-minded folks who opposed vaccines, became ill from the coronavirus they had downplayed, and then expressed regret from their death bed. At one point last summer, a string of conservative talk radio hosts – including one who called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” – downplaying COVID concerns all wound up dying after they were hit with it.

Marc Bernier, the 65-year-old Florida radio host who called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax,” wound up being hospitalized with COVID-19 for three weeks before he died last August. Earlier that same month, another 65-year-old Florida host named Dick Farrel, who had called Dr. Anthony Fauci a “power tripping lying freak,” also died from COVID. But not before texting friends and urging them to take the shot he had rejected.

“He told me this virus is no joke and he said, ‘I wish I had gotten it!” one of his friends reported after Farrel’s death.

When yet another conservative 65-year-old radio host – Nashville, Tennessee’s Phil Valentine – was hospitalized with COVID last summer, he posted on his Facebook page, “Yes, the rumors are true. I have COVID. Unfortunately for the haters out there, it looks like I'm going to make it.”

A couple weeks later, his station released this statement:

“Phil would like for his listeners to know that while he has never been an ‘anti-vaxer’ he regrets not being more vehemently ‘pro-vaccine,’ and looks forward to being able to more vigorously advocate that position as soon as he is back on the air, which we all hope will be soon.”

But Valentine didn’t get that chance. He too died in August, the same month as his Florida colleagues.

Caleb Wallace of Texas was only 30 years old when he died from COVID that same August, leaving behind three kids and a pregnant wife. As founder of a group called the San Angelo Freedom Defenders, Wallace had organized rallies against masks and mandates.

To his credit, Wallace didn’t want to go to the hospital when he got sick – not because he opposed taking a bed from some other patient but, according to his wife, because he didn’t want to add to COVID statistics. In fact, he initially refused to get tested, even after displaying symptoms. He treated himself by taking Vitamin C, aspirin and the livestock dewormer ivermectin.

By the time he did go to a hospital, it was too late to do anything for him. He had to go on a ventilator and his wife had to start a GoFundMe page to help pay medical bills.

Again, these deaths all occurred during just one month last summer.

By refusing to take the shot, a sizable chunk of the population is keeping COVID and its various strains alive and thriving, which also annoys those who want to tame the coronavirus. One could argue these folks are just wiping each other out, but that wouldn’t be very nice to say.

I just recently had a positive test result and it hasn’t been a pleasant experience. But I received the vaccine last year and, after some nagging from my 80-year-old mother, got the booster shot this month.

So, it could be worse. At least I’m not adding to the burden of overworked local hospitals.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kerr-reject-vaccine-reject-hospital-040004460.html
My lung cancer surgery was cancelled because of a... (show quote)


According to the CDC, some 95% of new Covid cases are the Omicron variant. You know, the one the vaccines don't prevent? Tell us more about getting jabbed.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/cdc-omicron-now-95-percent-of-all-new-us-covid-19-cases_4192999.html?utm_source=CCPVirusNewsletter&

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Jan 29, 2022 21:16:15   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
EmilyD wrote:
Chances are, the beds are going to be needed by the vaccinated more, anyway. There are more reasons for them to need those beds. They can get sick from Covid and/or its variants, have adverse reactions from the vaccine, and have both of those at the same time. The unvaxxed can get sick from Covid, but the chances of recovering from it is in the upper 98 percentile (even in the elderly) so no biggie if they DO get it. YOU should know this better than anyone, given your supposed medical situation!!!

And there is absolutely NO proof whatsoever that the vaccinated have less symptoms and don't need hospitalization as much as the unvaxxed. There is no evidence that shows that to be a fact - it's just a theory by the ones who are pushing this because it's their POLITICAL agenda.

If there's nothing else to know about these drugs that are being called a vaccine, you should at least know this one thing: One size does NOT fit all. What works for you may not work for someone else and vice versa.

So STOP, STOP. STOP spreading this FEAR PORN, rumitoid. Do what you need to do, but stop trying to coerce others to do what you think they should do.....it may kill them!!!!!

This is who D. Allen Kerr (the author of your one-sided, biased article) is...in his own words, from his FaceBook page: "Just an ex-dockworker, former newspaperman and U.S. Navy veteran living in Maine and trying to make sense of the world in the 21st century."
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I don't know how it works where you live but most of the new cases in Coos Bay are the unvaxxed

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Jan 29, 2022 22:34:00   #
JoyV
 
rumitoid wrote:
[My lung cancer surgery was cancelled because of a Covid surge that took up all the intake beds; that was a month and a half ago. That delay caused problems in re-scheduling. Other complications developed because of it. A decision will be made about the possibility of the operation on 2/3. What once appeared to be a manageable procedure over a small spot of cancer is now being reviewed. This is not a unique problem but a common one, which does not seem to be something the Anti-vaxxers considered. That is just a fact. I am not against an Anti-vaxxer being treated for the virus; that is not humane. However, such a decision as to refuse sound medical advice that threatens the general public should know what such a decision may entail and consider it.

[If I race through a residential neighborhood at 80 because I feel that Speed Limits somehow violate my "personal freedom" and I kill one or people due to that recklessness, I should not get a gold star as a patriot.]

Portsmouth Herald
D. Allan Kerr
Fri, January 28, 2022, 9:00 PM


Apparently, folks who don’t want to get vaccinated against COVID feel they’re being persecuted for what they consider a personal choice. Their thinking, I guess, is if others are safe from the coronavirus after getting jabbed, why does everyone else have to do so as well?

But seems to me anti-vaxers don’t have any such reluctance to take up hospital beds when they suffer serious effects of COVID themselves, which seems kind of hypocritical. I mean, if you’re going to commit, then commit all the way.

Walk the walk, baby. Otherwise, you’re just making a half-assed stand – denouncing medicine that could save you if you get hit with this thing, but then embracing it when you wind up suffering the consequence of your own actions.

If you reject the jab, reject the hospital bed as well.

That’s one of the reasons vaccinated people get annoyed with the anti-vaxers. Those who reject vaccines claim it’s nobody’s business but their own, but whenever there’s a COVID-related surge hospitals seem to run out of beds, and the anti-vaxxers are taking up a lot of them.

As a result, other folks who need medical care are not getting the attention they need. In December, the ICU of Dover’s Wentworth-Douglass Hospital was at more than 100 percent capacity. Maine Gov. Janet Mills recently deployed the National Guard in her state to assist overburdened hospital staffers.

Just recently there was a news article about a Massachusetts pizza shop owner who died, after contracting COVID, while waiting to get transferred to a hospital where he could be properly treated. This 68-year-old gentleman was at a Southbridge, Massachusetts, hospital but when his kidneys started shutting down, that facility could no longer provide the care he needed.

His family contacted hospitals within a 75-mile radius trying to find one with available space, according to USA Today, but by the time they found a place in Connecticut, he was too sick to be transferred. He died this past December.

The deceased shop owner wasn’t vaccinated, and in fact “didn’t believe” in it. I’m not mentioning this private citizen by name because it’s not essential to this piece – the intent isn’t to mock or diminish the poor guy, but to illustrate a point.

Sometimes, when someone who’s taken the jab winds up testing positive for COVID, we hear anti-vaxers try to point it out as evidence the vaccine doesn’t work. They’re being disingenuous, of course, sometimes willfully. Just about every responsible medical professional will tell you the vaccine is not a guarantee against attracting COVID, but it hugely decreases the likelihood you will die from it.

I’ve asked myself more than once how many stories anti-vaxxers have to hear of like-minded folks who opposed vaccines, became ill from the coronavirus they had downplayed, and then expressed regret from their death bed. At one point last summer, a string of conservative talk radio hosts – including one who called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax” – downplaying COVID concerns all wound up dying after they were hit with it.

Marc Bernier, the 65-year-old Florida radio host who called himself “Mr. Anti-Vax,” wound up being hospitalized with COVID-19 for three weeks before he died last August. Earlier that same month, another 65-year-old Florida host named Dick Farrel, who had called Dr. Anthony Fauci a “power tripping lying freak,” also died from COVID. But not before texting friends and urging them to take the shot he had rejected.

“He told me this virus is no joke and he said, ‘I wish I had gotten it!” one of his friends reported after Farrel’s death.

When yet another conservative 65-year-old radio host – Nashville, Tennessee’s Phil Valentine – was hospitalized with COVID last summer, he posted on his Facebook page, “Yes, the rumors are true. I have COVID. Unfortunately for the haters out there, it looks like I'm going to make it.”

A couple weeks later, his station released this statement:

“Phil would like for his listeners to know that while he has never been an ‘anti-vaxer’ he regrets not being more vehemently ‘pro-vaccine,’ and looks forward to being able to more vigorously advocate that position as soon as he is back on the air, which we all hope will be soon.”

But Valentine didn’t get that chance. He too died in August, the same month as his Florida colleagues.

Caleb Wallace of Texas was only 30 years old when he died from COVID that same August, leaving behind three kids and a pregnant wife. As founder of a group called the San Angelo Freedom Defenders, Wallace had organized rallies against masks and mandates.

To his credit, Wallace didn’t want to go to the hospital when he got sick – not because he opposed taking a bed from some other patient but, according to his wife, because he didn’t want to add to COVID statistics. In fact, he initially refused to get tested, even after displaying symptoms. He treated himself by taking Vitamin C, aspirin and the livestock dewormer ivermectin.

By the time he did go to a hospital, it was too late to do anything for him. He had to go on a ventilator and his wife had to start a GoFundMe page to help pay medical bills.

Again, these deaths all occurred during just one month last summer.

By refusing to take the shot, a sizable chunk of the population is keeping COVID and its various strains alive and thriving, which also annoys those who want to tame the coronavirus. One could argue these folks are just wiping each other out, but that wouldn’t be very nice to say.

I just recently had a positive test result and it hasn’t been a pleasant experience. But I received the vaccine last year and, after some nagging from my 80-year-old mother, got the booster shot this month.

So, it could be worse. At least I’m not adding to the burden of overworked local hospitals.
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So do you also believe that if someone gets the vaccine knowing there is the possibility of severe health risks and deaths, they too should forgo taking up a hospital bed?

As for not getting treatment because of the lack of beds, this also happened to my son who was under treatment for cancer. The hospital delayed treatments due to the EXPECTATION they might be overwhelmed by SARS CoV-2 patients. But this massive wave of people massing in the ER, filling up the beds, and being laid out in hallways never happened.

And do you know how many medical staff were fired for refusing the vaccine? Many hospitals have empty beds which cannot be filled because they lack enough staff after firing up to 30%. Capacity is not measured by number of beds but by number of available beds. Beds are not available if there is a shortage of staff. Each State has minimum requirements on the ratio of bed to nurses, bed to nurses aids, and beds to other hospital staff.

Also, do you know the percent of COVID hospital patients are vaccinated vs unvaccinated? The numbers aren't kept in this country. But in talking to nurses and other hospital staff it ranges from 70% to 85% of COVID hospital patients being vaccinated BEFORE becoming patients.

AS for my son, once the hospitals began treating cancer again, his cancer had spread and far more aggressive treatment was needed. He was holding his own until he received a COVID shot without anyone mentioning that with certain types of cancer the mRNA vaccines result in the side effect of cancer cells massively speeding up their growth. He was dead within 3 weeks of getting the vaccine. He was only 42. He left behind a wife and two very young children.

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Jan 29, 2022 22:47:44   #
EmilyD
 
JoyV wrote:
So do you also believe that if someone gets the vaccine knowing there is the possibility of severe health risks and deaths, they too should forgo taking up a hospital bed?

As for not getting treatment because of the lack of beds, this also happened to my son who was under treatment for cancer. The hospital delayed treatments due to the EXPECTATION they might be overwhelmed by SARS CoV-2 patients. But this massive wave of people massing in the ER, filling up the beds, and being laid out in hallways never happened.

And do you know how many medical staff were fired for refusing the vaccine? Many hospitals have empty beds which cannot be filled because they lack enough staff after firing up to 30%. Capacity is not measured by number of beds but by number of available beds. Beds are not available if there is a shortage of staff. Each State has minimum requirements on the ratio of bed to nurses, bed to nurses aids, and beds to other hospital staff.

Also, do you know the percent of COVID hospital patients are vaccinated vs unvaccinated? The numbers aren't kept in this country. But in talking to nurses and other hospital staff it ranges from 70% to 85% of COVID hospital patients being vaccinated BEFORE becoming patients.

AS for my son, once the hospitals began treating cancer again, his cancer had spread and far more aggressive treatment was needed. He was holding his own until he received a COVID shot without anyone mentioning that with certain types of cancer the mRNA vaccines result in the side effect of cancer cells massively speeding up their growth. He was dead within 3 weeks of getting the vaccine. He was only 42. He left behind a wife and two very young children.
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I am very very sorry that you are going through this deep pain. Please accept my condolences on the loss of your son.

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Jan 29, 2022 23:19:19   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
If the one who wrote this a smoker? If so is he going to reject cancer treatment or be a hypocrit.


Hmm. I have a client who runs an entire kidney unit. I asked him if many of his patients were in that ward because of bad life choices. He said of course. These evil mandater’s might want to be careful what they wish for. Just had a client die. He was told a year ago after an aorta operation that he’d be lucky to live a year. He caught Covid last week. Was asymptomatic. His wife called me today and said his death certificate says, cause of death; Covid.

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Jan 29, 2022 23:29:04   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I don't know how it works where you live but most of the new cases in Coos Bay are the unvaxxed


See my post. Almost all the new cases are Omicron, which vaccinations DO NOT PREVENT.

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Jan 29, 2022 23:32:52   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
See my post. Almost all the new cases are Omicron, which vaccinations DO NOT PREVENT.


Since natural immunity lasts much longer than the vaccination the unvaccinated should be thanked because they won’t be a burden down the road.

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Jan 30, 2022 00:06:51   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I don't know how it works where you live but most of the new cases in Coos Bay are the unvaxxed


How do you know this, Tom?

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