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Jan 20, 2022 22:06:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
archie bunker wrote:
It was classic, Permi! Just like you see on the videos. First foot hits the step going down, then donk, donk, donk, donk all the way to the bottom.

It sucked....


Good thing you are a tough ageing codger!!

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Jan 20, 2022 22:10:47   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
A case of justice fought for and received. There should be some defense for speed traps like that.


They're all over the country, but it ain't a Fed. problem.
Here, we have motorcycle cops who just issue tickets. Red light cameras. All for generating money for the locality.
You think getting the Feds involved will make it better? They need money worse than the states, or towns!

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Jan 20, 2022 22:17:46   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Good thing you are a tough ageing codger!!


I'm pre-codger right now. Working my way up to curmudgeon.
I wanna be like you some day!!

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Jan 20, 2022 22:33:26   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
archie bunker wrote:
I'm pre-codger right now. Working my way up to curmudgeon.
I wanna be like you some day!!


OH what a poor decision... but you have a very long way to go on that curmudgeon role.. I used to think it was hard to do, now it is second nature..

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Jan 20, 2022 23:14:01   #
moldyoldy
 
archie bunker wrote:
It was classic, Permi! Just like you see on the videos. First foot hits the step going down, then donk, donk, donk, donk all the way to the bottom.

It sucked....
ran away from the snow in 1977, I know I can’t handle the freezing rain and feet of snow anymore. But these days you might get anybodys weather.


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Jan 21, 2022 07:53:28   #
rjoeholl
 
permafrost wrote:
I say sic em on the drinking lids problem.. that truly POs me..


Hey, Poimy, ya know what I do when I get a drink with a loose lid? I do what any sensible person does; I tighten it!

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Jan 21, 2022 09:32:40   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
archie bunker wrote:
Nah. A soak in a hot tub with Epsom salts, a good meal, a few beers, and 77,000 mil. of ibuprofen, and I'll wake up sore as hell. But, I have 3 days off to recover, and once the bruises start showing, maybe I can milk a tad of sympathetic lazy time out of Mrs. B. Doubt it......

Here's one of many I found on that town. I can think of a few others from my driving the road days around here too. It's bullshit.

https://www.thenewspaper.com/news/44/4469.asp
Nah. A soak in a hot tub with Epsom salts, a good ... (show quote)


Hope you feel better soon, Arch! I agree with Perm....it makes MY back twinge just reading about it.

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Jan 21, 2022 10:04:17   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
rjoeholl wrote:
Hey, Poimy, ya know what I do when I get a drink with a loose lid? I do what any sensible person does; I tighten it!


OH sure, a complicated solution to a simple problem.. always a wrench in the mix... LOL

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Jan 21, 2022 12:19:57   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Hope you feel better soon, Arch! I agree with Perm....it makes MY back twinge just reading about it.


I wish I was 40 again, Randy! Maybe it wouldn't hurt so bad! Damn I'm sore!

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Jan 21, 2022 12:24:09   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
OH sure, a complicated solution to a simple problem.. always a wrench in the mix... LOL


If'n y'all had any class, y'all would be orderin yer drinks with a cork in em instead of a snap on lid!

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Jan 21, 2022 17:15:39   #
BigJim
 
I have a solution to this. The state should have a law that all fines, fees and forfeitures go into a statewide pool. This will be distributed once a month in proportion to the law enforcement budget of each government entity. This will insure that enforcement is for compliance, not profit. Units that spend more on law enforcement will get more but there will be little value to collecting excess fines.

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Jan 21, 2022 17:43:11   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
BigJim wrote:
I have a solution to this. The state should have a law that all fines, fees and forfeitures go into a statewide pool. This will be distributed once a month in proportion to the law enforcement budget of each government entity. This will insure that enforcement is for compliance, not profit. Units that spend more on law enforcement will get more but there will be little value to collecting excess fines.


Sounds like a plan that is worth discussing! On a state-by-state basis, of course. If you get the feds involved, they will keep 80% of the funds for 'administrative' costs.

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Jan 21, 2022 18:35:36   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Sounds like a plan that is worth discussing! On a state-by-state basis, of course. If you get the feds involved, they will keep 80% of the funds for 'administrative' costs.


That might increase the state/county/ municipality over enforcement (if you choose to call it that) in order for them to make up their 80%.

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Jan 21, 2022 21:28:53   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
BigJim wrote:
I have a solution to this. The state should have a law that all fines, fees and forfeitures go into a statewide pool. This will be distributed once a month in proportion to the law enforcement budget of each government entity. This will insure that enforcement is for compliance, not profit. Units that spend more on law enforcement will get more but there will be little value to collecting excess fines.


Unless all towns started overfining for profit.

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Jan 21, 2022 21:32:31   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Brookside, Alabama’s population is barely 1,200 people, but officials decided that what the town really needed was more police. Now, fines and forfeitures make up half of the town’s income in a rampant case of policing for profit, Alabama news site AL.com reports.

The numbers are shocking. Only 55 nonviolent crimes were reported in the seven-year period between 2011 and 2018. And yet in 2018, the police force was expanded from one full-time police officer to eight full-time officers and several part-timers. From the article:

By 2020 Brookside made more misdemeanor arrests than it has residents. It went from towing 50 vehicles in 2018 to 789 in 2020 – each carrying fines. That’s a 1,478% increase, with 1.7 tows for every household in town.

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Police stops soared between 2018 and 2020. Fines and forfeitures – seizures of cars during traffic stops, among other things – doubled from 2018 to 2019. In 2020 they came to $610,000. That’s 49% of the small town’s skyrocketing revenue.

A town with just 6.3 miles of roads saw officers patrol 114,438 miles in 2020. And those patrols resulted in stops that residents have often found shocking. There’s the grandmother who’s suing the city alleging that she was stopped after officers claimed she flashed her headlights to warn other cars that they were nearby. Or there’s another resident who was one of 75 people that were given a ticket for simply using the left lane on the interstate. The city is in the business of screwing over its residents. And the mayor doesn’t seem to care that people are complaining:

Mayor Bryan dismissed the complaints of those who must appear in court. “Everybody’s got a story,” he said. “And 99% of them are lying.”

Residents are hoping something can be done about the situation soon. The sheriff for Brookside’s Jefferson Count, Mark Pettway, thinks everything that’s going on will eventually attract the attention of the federal government:

I think it’s one of those situations … that could possibly bring in the feds with some oversight,” he said. “I wouldn’t be surprised if they opened up an investigation. You can’t do what’s going on over there.

It’s a wild case of for-profit overpolicing in a tiny town with a population whose median income is well below state average — a town that survives in large part due to tax revenue from the local Dollar General. It’s not known for havinv a lot of crime. Though it already brought in a pretty high percentage of its local revenue from fines and forfeitures, even before the policing crisis started.

Here’s hoping Pettway is right and the federal government starts paying attention to Brookside, Alabama.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/this-tiny-alabama-town-of-1-200-has-been-overrun-by-out-out-of-control-police/ar-AASXZaj?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
Brookside, Alabama’s population is barely 1,200 pe... (show quote)


Sounds like Boss Hogg is running that town

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