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Jan 8, 2022 18:17:30   #
EmilyD
 
TexaCan wrote:
I hope this isn’t another ruse like his “dead by Thanksgiving”……I guess we’ll know if his multiples continue to post when he is out for his surgery. If it’s the truth, I certainly hope that his surgery is 100% successful. My husband had a very serious heart attack which resulted in a triple bypass. He has had no problem so far. It’s amazing what these doctors can accomplish! Catching his problem before an attack makes his prognosis much better!

Bypass surgery today is almost like a routine procedure. My husband had quintuple bypass done 8 years ago, and he's fine. Better, actually, than before the surgery when he was tired and lethargic all the time. His mother had it 27 years ago and she's now 92 and walking around her building every day! So it can turn out very well!

Good luck to you and your husband....I know what you went through (are going through)!

If rumitoid is making this up (who can blame us for thinking this?) he should be ashamed. It is nothing to joke or lie about...

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Jan 8, 2022 18:39:35   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
EmilyD wrote:
Bypass surgery today is almost like a routine procedure. My husband had quintuple bypass done 8 years ago, and he's fine. Better, actually, than before the surgery when he was tired and lethargic all the time. His mother had it 27 years ago and she's now 92 and walking around her building every day! So it can turn out very well!

Good luck to you and your husband....I know what you went through (are going through)!

If rumitoid is making this up (who can blame us for thinking this?) he should be ashamed. It is nothing to joke or lie about...
Bypass surgery today is almost like a routine proc... (show quote)

My husband’s surgery was a couple of years ago. Like your husband, he felt better after the surgery than he had in quite awhile. It was a close call, but God wasn’t through with him! I have to remind him to pace himself…he’s not a setter! LOL!

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Jan 8, 2022 20:06:31   #
Antimarxist21
 
rumitoid wrote:
In recent months, conservative lawmakers and leaders alike have vowed to ban critical race theory from being taught in Mississippi’s public schools.

So when a Twitter user pointed out in late December that the Mississippi Department of Education had quietly proposed changes to the state’s social studies standards, many expressed their dismay at the new language.

For example, an objective for fourth grade teaching on civil rights that previously said, “Name important people of the modern Civil Rights Movement, including Mississippians. Martin Luther King, Jr., Rosa Parks, Medgar Evers, James Meredith, Fannie Lou Hamer, Charles Evers, etc.” would now say, “Identify important figures of the modern Civil Rights Movement including Mississippians.”

An eighth grade objective that reads, “Examine the Southern resistance to Reconstruction reforms, including: Black Codes, Jim Crow Laws, Ku Klux Klan, etc.” would change to “Analyze southern resistance to Reconstruction reforms.”

In Mississippi, public schools follow standards that outline learning objectives and subject material by grade level. Social studies standards are broken into five categories described as strands: history, civics, geography, economics, and civil rights.

At a Dec. 16 meeting for the state Board of Education, members approved the first step in revising the standards. It was approved in a block without discussion, a standard practice from the board on this kind of item.

The 309-page document has many changes like this across the strands, which remove specific names or descriptions for broader, more vague terms. There are also verb changes, like swapping “describe” to “determine how,” or “explain” to “contrast.”

On social media, people questioned why these proposed changes weren’t announced or discussed by the board. Some called the move cowardly, others disturbing, and one person even described the new language in the document as fascism.

The pushback was so strong that on Wednesday, the department announced it would hold a public hearing on Jan. 28 for concerned individuals to address the changes.

Chauncey Spears is the education policy specialist at the Mississippi Center For Justice, which was in the process of trying to get a public meeting with MDE before they announced the January event. A former social studies specialist at the department, Spears said he and his organization want to understand the “academically defensible” reasons for the changes and ensure the public gets a say.

“We would think a document like this that serves as the basis for instruction in classrooms would need to have some sort of consensus about what history instruction would look like in order to ensure, or at least hold to account educators around the state to render a full and honest teaching of the history of the state,” Spears said. “Because if it’s too broad, then you run the risk of teachers looking at these different events in history and depending on the level of comfort and expertise in some areas, students not learning about some things.”

In an interview with Mississippi Today, MDE officials who worked on these changes said this is a process that’s been going on for more than a year, and anything removed from the standards will exist in a separate document. The social studies standards in place now were created in 2018 by a 35-member committee comprised of educators in public schools, MDE and individuals who worked in the Research and Curriculum Department at Mississippi State University.

The state has revised these standards before, once in 2006 and again in 2011, according to Wendy Clemons, executive director of the Office of Secondary Education and Professional Development at MDE.

In November 2020, the department assembled a group of U.S. History teachers who were on that 2018 committee to create additional documents for educators to use, said Jen Cornett, director of social studies at MDE. What was supposed to be a midterm review of the standards grew into a new committee to update the standards themselves, Cornett said, after the department received feedback from those educators.

Cornett said she’d heard from teachers that the social studies standards from 2011 were too broad, so what was adopted in 2018 included a lot more specifics. When educators tried to put the new standards into practice, they found “the pendulum swung too far,” Cornett said.

Soon the work spread to a full committee, and in August and September 2021 the group worked through the many proposed revisions to the current standards. These standards exist for teachers to use as a framework to identify learning goals for their lessons, rather than a mandate for what should go in every lesson.

“With our 2018 document, it was so content heavy that the teachers found it challenging to simmer down what the point of the students’ lesson should be,” she said.

Thus, the changes were made. The goal was not to add content or take anything away, she said. “We just cleaned things up.”

Additionally, information that is removed from the existing document will be included in a separate instructional planning guide the department plans to publish in May of this year, she said.

“When you see that information may be pulled from the document, it hasn’t gone away,” she said. “It’s just going to be presented in a more effective way to teachers.”

Kenneth Anthony, a Mississippi State professor of elementary education and a committee member who reviewed the 2021 standards, said that Mississippi’s social studies standards are not as prescriptive or descriptive as other states.

“I wish they were a bit more specific, but good people disagree on the topic of how specific standards should or shouldn’t be,” Anthony said.

When asked whether removing specific details and individuals could technically absolve districts and educators from teaching them entirely, Clemons responded: “If we tried to be explicit in writing all of our standards, we would have a laundry list of specific historical figures and historical events that we have put in there.” Since these standards are not actually curriculum, “we have to be careful about getting into specificity in the actual framework.”

“I sympathize with the idea of things being too prescriptive from the state,” said Spears, who was involved in the 2011 standards. “But at the same time, we have to also consider the political and historic context under which we educate our children in the state.”

In the Legislature, House Education Committee Chair Rep. Richard Bennett said Wednesday he’s heard there have been “a number of requests” for legal staff to draft bills about critical race theory, but he’s not sure what will specifically be in the bills yet.

As for the language changes (“inspect” to “analyze,” “contrast” to “assess,” etc.), Cornett said the committee suggested them so that they better align with the learning goal and level of rigor for a specific grade.

State Board member Angela Bass told Mississippi Today she read the revisions before they came before the board and didn’t see anything alarming, and that it’s a common practice for standards to be revised every 3-5 years.

With the board’s approval in December, the revisions were put out for public comment and anyone can write in their opinion. To submit in writing, mail to Jen Cornett at 359 N. West Street, Post Office Box 771, Jackson, MS 39205-0771, or email her at jcornett@mdek12.org. The deadline to submit is 5 p.m. on Feb. 4. Public comments will be presented to the board for discussion at the Feb. 17 board meeting.

For the Jan. 28 hearing, people can sign up to address MDE at this link, but the deadline to do so is Jan. 25.

“Hopefully, a public hearing will spark a community based conversation about what education looks like in our classrooms throughout the state,” Spears said. “The governor’s voice should be no stronger than the sanitation worker’s voice who has a child in a public schools.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mississippi-really-removing-civil-rights-162155154.html
In recent months, conservative lawmakers and leade... (show quote)


Why do you lefties. Have to post "books" to make your point? Do you figure we'll be bored and not read it?

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Jan 8, 2022 20:25:35   #
martsiva
 
rumitoid wrote:
In recent months, conservative lawmakers and leaders alike have vowed to ban critical race theory from being taught in Mississippi’s public schools.

So when a Twitter user pointed out in late December that the Mississippi Department of Education had quietly proposed changes to the state’s social studies standards, many expressed their dismay at the new language.

For example, an objective for fourth grade teaching on civil rights that previously said, “Name important people of the modern Civil Rights Movement, including Mississippians. Martin Luther King, Jr., Rosa Parks, Medgar Evers, James Meredith, Fannie Lou Hamer, Charles Evers, etc.” would now say, “Identify important figures of the modern Civil Rights Movement including Mississippians.”

An eighth grade objective that reads, “Examine the Southern resistance to Reconstruction reforms, including: Black Codes, Jim Crow Laws, Ku Klux Klan, etc.” would change to “Analyze southern resistance to Reconstruction reforms.”

In Mississippi, public schools follow standards that outline learning objectives and subject material by grade level. Social studies standards are broken into five categories described as strands: history, civics, geography, economics, and civil rights.

At a Dec. 16 meeting for the state Board of Education, members approved the first step in revising the standards. It was approved in a block without discussion, a standard practice from the board on this kind of item.

The 309-page document has many changes like this across the strands, which remove specific names or descriptions for broader, more vague terms. There are also verb changes, like swapping “describe” to “determine how,” or “explain” to “contrast.”

On social media, people questioned why these proposed changes weren’t announced or discussed by the board. Some called the move cowardly, others disturbing, and one person even described the new language in the document as fascism.

The pushback was so strong that on Wednesday, the department announced it would hold a public hearing on Jan. 28 for concerned individuals to address the changes.

Chauncey Spears is the education policy specialist at the Mississippi Center For Justice, which was in the process of trying to get a public meeting with MDE before they announced the January event. A former social studies specialist at the department, Spears said he and his organization want to understand the “academically defensible” reasons for the changes and ensure the public gets a say.

“We would think a document like this that serves as the basis for instruction in classrooms would need to have some sort of consensus about what history instruction would look like in order to ensure, or at least hold to account educators around the state to render a full and honest teaching of the history of the state,” Spears said. “Because if it’s too broad, then you run the risk of teachers looking at these different events in history and depending on the level of comfort and expertise in some areas, students not learning about some things.”

In an interview with Mississippi Today, MDE officials who worked on these changes said this is a process that’s been going on for more than a year, and anything removed from the standards will exist in a separate document. The social studies standards in place now were created in 2018 by a 35-member committee comprised of educators in public schools, MDE and individuals who worked in the Research and Curriculum Department at Mississippi State University.

The state has revised these standards before, once in 2006 and again in 2011, according to Wendy Clemons, executive director of the Office of Secondary Education and Professional Development at MDE.

In November 2020, the department assembled a group of U.S. History teachers who were on that 2018 committee to create additional documents for educators to use, said Jen Cornett, director of social studies at MDE. What was supposed to be a midterm review of the standards grew into a new committee to update the standards themselves, Cornett said, after the department received feedback from those educators.

Cornett said she’d heard from teachers that the social studies standards from 2011 were too broad, so what was adopted in 2018 included a lot more specifics. When educators tried to put the new standards into practice, they found “the pendulum swung too far,” Cornett said.

Soon the work spread to a full committee, and in August and September 2021 the group worked through the many proposed revisions to the current standards. These standards exist for teachers to use as a framework to identify learning goals for their lessons, rather than a mandate for what should go in every lesson.

“With our 2018 document, it was so content heavy that the teachers found it challenging to simmer down what the point of the students’ lesson should be,” she said.

Thus, the changes were made. The goal was not to add content or take anything away, she said. “We just cleaned things up.”

Additionally, information that is removed from the existing document will be included in a separate instructional planning guide the department plans to publish in May of this year, she said.

“When you see that information may be pulled from the document, it hasn’t gone away,” she said. “It’s just going to be presented in a more effective way to teachers.”

Kenneth Anthony, a Mississippi State professor of elementary education and a committee member who reviewed the 2021 standards, said that Mississippi’s social studies standards are not as prescriptive or descriptive as other states.

“I wish they were a bit more specific, but good people disagree on the topic of how specific standards should or shouldn’t be,” Anthony said.

When asked whether removing specific details and individuals could technically absolve districts and educators from teaching them entirely, Clemons responded: “If we tried to be explicit in writing all of our standards, we would have a laundry list of specific historical figures and historical events that we have put in there.” Since these standards are not actually curriculum, “we have to be careful about getting into specificity in the actual framework.”

“I sympathize with the idea of things being too prescriptive from the state,” said Spears, who was involved in the 2011 standards. “But at the same time, we have to also consider the political and historic context under which we educate our children in the state.”

In the Legislature, House Education Committee Chair Rep. Richard Bennett said Wednesday he’s heard there have been “a number of requests” for legal staff to draft bills about critical race theory, but he’s not sure what will specifically be in the bills yet.

As for the language changes (“inspect” to “analyze,” “contrast” to “assess,” etc.), Cornett said the committee suggested them so that they better align with the learning goal and level of rigor for a specific grade.

State Board member Angela Bass told Mississippi Today she read the revisions before they came before the board and didn’t see anything alarming, and that it’s a common practice for standards to be revised every 3-5 years.

With the board’s approval in December, the revisions were put out for public comment and anyone can write in their opinion. To submit in writing, mail to Jen Cornett at 359 N. West Street, Post Office Box 771, Jackson, MS 39205-0771, or email her at jcornett@mdek12.org. The deadline to submit is 5 p.m. on Feb. 4. Public comments will be presented to the board for discussion at the Feb. 17 board meeting.

For the Jan. 28 hearing, people can sign up to address MDE at this link, but the deadline to do so is Jan. 25.

“Hopefully, a public hearing will spark a community based conversation about what education looks like in our classrooms throughout the state,” Spears said. “The governor’s voice should be no stronger than the sanitation worker’s voice who has a child in a public schools.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mississippi-really-removing-civil-rights-162155154.html
In recent months, conservative lawmakers and leade... (show quote)


The reason why CRT should be banned in public schools went right over your head - as usual!! It is a subject that is taught in colleges because college students have matured enough to make their own decisions on the subject!! School children are too young and are being indoctrinated into this racist subject!!

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Jan 8, 2022 20:26:13   #
martsiva
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
They focus on selective history and spin.



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Jan 9, 2022 02:19:54   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
EmilyD wrote:
So far today you've posted 11 new topics. It's clear that you're trying to edge Proud Republican out of the "Topic Starter Rank #1" spot. That's not very nice, taking her down while she's out sick with Omicron, rumitoid. This shows what your true character is. What a piece of 💩 you are.


Most of the "posts" are copies and pastes, with his own personal stamp of Progressive approval.

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Jan 9, 2022 02:25:36   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
martsiva wrote:
The reason why CRT should be banned in public schools went right over your head - as usual!! It is a subject that is taught in colleges because college students have matured enough to make their own decisions on the subject!! School children are too young and are being indoctrinated into this racist subject!!


Many, if not most college students these days are appallingly ignorant. I spoke to one before the 2020 election who was a rising sophomore, who had no idea who we fought in the Revolutionary War, or WWI or WWII, could not name the three branches of government, had no idea who either of our Senators were, or our Congressman, could not pick the direct object out of a simple sentence or convert .75 into a fraction with pencil and paper. When I was in school, these were questions one would ask of a sixth grader.
Did I mention she was outspoken about being a Democrat?

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Jan 9, 2022 16:33:05   #
Ricktloml
 
EmilyD wrote:
So far today you've posted 11 new topics. It's clear that you're trying to edge Proud Republican out of the "Topic Starter Rank #1" spot. That's not very nice, taking her down while she's out sick with Omicron, rumitoid. This shows what your true character is. What a piece of 💩 you are.


Oh good grief! CRT is racist/Marxist tripe the left wants to force on our children. And just because CRT isn't taught, it doesn't mean the ugliness of racism is overlooked/glossed over. It is taught in a non-racist/Marxist manner.

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Jan 11, 2022 02:06:11   #
DamnYANKEE
 
vernon wrote:
I sure get tired of you crying democracy and how it was under attack by Trump. While you have this idiot BJB

and his forcing people to get injections they don't want and closing down schools.letting our borders be over run
with the infected he spreads around the country. The two reasons he is doing that is to keep the covid going and to keep the drug lords making money so they can kick back millions to him and pleosi, while they kill hundreds
of thousands of kids with that poison. All I can say about you ,is do us all a favor and go kill yourself.
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Hell I'll even loan him one of my Shooters with a full mag in case he misses a few times , his brain might be hard to hit on the first few tries

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Jan 17, 2022 20:57:14   #
Ricktloml
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Many, if not most college students these days are appallingly ignorant. I spoke to one before the 2020 election who was a rising sophomore, who had no idea who we fought in the Revolutionary War, or WWI or WWII, could not name the three branches of government, had no idea who either of our Senators were, or our Congressman, could not pick the direct object out of a simple sentence or convert .75 into a fraction with pencil and paper. When I was in school, these were questions one would ask of a sixth grader.
Did I mention she was outspoken about being a Democrat?
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At our time in history when you got an "eighth grade education", it was equivalent to first year college education now. THAT is sickening

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