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Trump spent most national security meetings calling his predecessors 'idiots' and claiming credit for things he didn't do, book says
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Oct 5, 2021 15:43:53   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-spent-most-national-security-152349276.html

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Oct 5, 2021 20:36:55   #
JW
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-spent-most-national-security-152349276.html


Just Wondering, virtually everything said about Trump has proven to be a lie, why would you buy into this crap so readily?

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Oct 5, 2021 21:23:21   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
JW wrote:
Just Wondering, virtually everything said about Trump has proven to be a lie, why would you buy into this c';/rap so readily?


Was the election stolen from trump?

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Oct 6, 2021 00:21:12   #
JW
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Was the election stolen from trump?


The evidence sure does point in that direction.

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Oct 6, 2021 04:59:44   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
JW wrote:
The evidence sure does point in that direction.


What evidence?

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Oct 6, 2021 13:36:44   #
JW
 
Bad Bob wrote:
What evidence?


https://thenewamerican.com/widespread-voter-fraud-myth-or-reality/

This link provides a summary of some of the claimed fraud. You can take individual claims and and verify the data or confirm the claims or write them off as opinion, as the case may be. I have examined various claims and found some in every category but the preponderance of claims are unverifiable so they get dumped in the circumstantial evidence basket. That is, they point to a conclusion but they don't support any conclusion.

If I won an election, I would welcome confirmation. I wouldn't try to fight it. More circumstantial evidence pointing to fraud because Democrats and RINOs are fighting like Hell to prevent opening the books.

Joe Biden goes on official visits to states he won and gets no admiring audience but does get from hundreds to thousands of people waving Trump paraphernalia and screaming F*** Joe Biden. More circumstantial evidence pointing in the direction of fraud.

Something as important to our leadership and the true desires of the majority of the American people needs to be clearly and unquestionably known by all citizens of this nation. However that turns out, it needs to be known. If the Right turns out to be wrong, a giant collective apology is owed to the Left. If it turns out that the election was actually subverted, there is no greater crime and the perpetrators need to hang.

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Oct 6, 2021 17:36:38   #
Carlos Caliente
 
Most of them were and are idiots. D'uh

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Oct 6, 2021 19:31:18   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
JW wrote:
https://thenewamerican.com/widespread-voter-fraud-myth-or-reality/

This link provides a summary of some of the claimed fraud. You can take individual claims and and verify the data or confirm the claims or write them off as opinion, as the case may be. I have examined various claims and found some in every category but the preponderance of claims are unverifiable so they get dumped in the circumstantial evidence basket. That is, they point to a conclusion but they don't support any conclusion.

If I won an election, I would welcome confirmation. I wouldn't try to fight it. More circumstantial evidence pointing to fraud because Democrats and RINOs are fighting like Hell to prevent opening the books.

Joe Biden goes on official visits to states he won and gets no admiring audience but does get from hundreds to thousands of people waving Trump paraphernalia and screaming F*** Joe Biden. More circumstantial evidence pointing in the direction of fraud.

Something as important to our leadership and the true desires of the majority of the American people needs to be clearly and unquestionably known by all citizens of this nation. However that turns out, it needs to be known. If the Right turns out to be wrong, a giant collective apology is owed to the Left. If it turns out that the election was actually subverted, there is no greater crime and the perpetrators need to hang.
https://thenewamerican.com/widespread-voter-fraud-... (show quote)


None

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Oct 6, 2021 20:40:05   #
JW
 
Bad Bob wrote:
None


Where did you get that idea? Some of the data is proven and shows clear fraud. There is overwhelming circumstantial evidence and circumstantial evidence is evidence.

You really need to do the research yourself because you have made it clear you won't believe anything you don't arrive at yourself. I've delivered to you everything you need to satisfy yourself as to what factual data is available. You do need to do some work to confirm or deny the presented data. There is no point in anyone giving you anything more because you won't accept anything you don't find yourself.

Approach the problem honestly, do the work, and you'll have all the evidence you could want. I know what you will find. I've looked. You need to look.

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Oct 6, 2021 20:49:03   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
JW wrote:
Where did you get that idea? Some of the data is proven and shows clear fraud. There is overwhelming circumstantial evidence and circumstantial evidence is evidence.

You really need to do the research yourself because you have made it clear you won't believe anything you don't arrive at yourself. I've delivered to you everything you need to satisfy yourself as to what factual data is available. You do need to do some work to confirm or deny the presented data. There is no point in anyone giving you anything more because you won't accept anything you don't find yourself.

Approach the problem honestly, do the work, and you'll have all the evidence you could want. I know what you will find. I've looked. You need to look.
Where did you get that idea? Some of the data is p... (show quote)


Where did you look? Did any of your "circumstantial evidence" hold up in court?

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Oct 6, 2021 21:26:25   #
JW
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Where did you look? Did any of your "circumstantial evidence" hold up in court?


I looked wherever the search led me and worked hard to eliminate articles that used adjectives and adverbs ( adj. and adv. indicate opinions).

None of the big fraud evidence has been presented in court yet. Of those cases that have actually made it to court, the Trump side has won 65% of the decisions. http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/updated-list-of-2020-election-fraud-cases-shows-87-total-cases-trump-gop-won-71-of-cases/

list of cases and status.... http://wiseenergy.org/Energy/Election/2020_Election_Cases.htm

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Oct 6, 2021 21:48:04   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
JW wrote:
I looked wherever the search led me and worked hard to eliminate articles that used adjectives and adverbs ( adj. and adv. indicate opinions).

None of the big fraud evidence has been presented in court yet. Of those cases that have actually made it to court, the Trump side has won 65% of the decisions. http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/updated-list-of-2020-election-fraud-cases-shows-87-total-cases-trump-gop-won-71-of-cases/

list of cases and status.... http://wiseenergy.org/Energy/Election/2020_Election_Cases.htm
I looked wherever the search led me and worked har... (show quote)


I saw nothing yet on proven fraud.

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Oct 6, 2021 22:42:12   #
JW
 
Bad Bob wrote:
I saw nothing yet on proven fraud.


Look again, it's there... http://wiseenergy.org/Energy/Election/2020_Election_Cases.htm

I reread your post. There have been no trials for fraud. None have had a hearing in court yet. However, there have been cases settled on their merits to stop fraudulent acts by the opposition. Items 3, 8,9,12 and more. make sure you pan all the way to the right of the page.

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Oct 7, 2021 05:33:29   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
JW wrote:
Look again, it's there... http://wiseenergy.org/Energy/Election/2020_Election_Cases.htm

I reread your post. There have been no trials for fraud. None have had a hearing in court yet. However, there have been cases settled on their merits to stop fraudulent acts by the opposition. Items 3, 8,9,12 and more. make sure you pan all the way to the right of the page.


"There have been no trials for fraud. None have had a hearing in court yet."

Gee I wonder why.

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Oct 7, 2021 12:43:30   #
JW
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"There have been no trials for fraud. None have had a hearing in court yet."

Gee I wonder why.


You could probably figure out why. Shouldn't we actually hear the arguments before we just dismiss them? So far, none have been heard... by a court. they have been heard in several state legislatures which is why the idea of AZ style audits is catching on in 17, or is it 41 now, other states.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=considering+election+audits&form=ANNTH1&refig=9d33e343a0bd432bbf0fe16ab3a7cb21

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