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May 16, 2013 08:41:49   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
This post may come in more than one installment. I will do my endeavor to cover the salient points as succinctly as possible.
For those of you curious about the title of this post, I mentioned in another firearms related topic that this one was forthcoming. It traces the history of restrictive gun control in this country back to it's origins in Nazi Germany. I intend to walk the reader through this convoluted story as unconfusingly as possible, so please bear with me.
In 1968, then president Comrade Lyndon Johnson was an ardent supporter of gun control. His partner in crime was none other than Senator Thomas Dodd, father of former Senator Chris Dodd of Fannie and Freddie and Obamacare fame. (Apparently, as you will note, the apple did not fall far from the tree, but that is another story). Senator Dodd, Sr. was a member of the commission charged with trying Nazi War Criminals. This will become germaine (no pun intended) in a moment.
Two very important catalysts occurred in 1968 to facilitate the passage of the GCA '68, those being the assassination of Martin Luther King, and the second the assassination of Robert Kennedy. (It is interesting to note that Coretta King, Dr. King's widow, became convinced that James Earl Ray was innocent, and called for re-opening the investigation. The chance of that happening apparently died with Ms. King. Concerning Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Robert Kennedy, he was also disposed of before he could answer any embarrassing queries.
The stage is now set. Enter LBJ, whose calls for gun control became more strident, now that he had a soapbox on which to stand, and his co-conspirator, Senator Thomas Dodd, of Nuremburg fame. On July 2, 1968, this worthy requested the Library of Congress to translate the Nazi Gun Control Act of 1938 into English. There is a copy of the affirmative reply from the Library dated July 12, 1968. This is on or about the time that deliberations on GCA'68 began.
On to the scary part; the similarities between GCA '68 and the Nazi legislation of 1938:
1). Creation of the ATF, counterpart of the Nazi SS, tasked with enforcement of firearms laws.
2). Requirement of Federal License for the business of selling firearms, same as the German version.
3). Establish a list of "Prohibited Persons," same as Nazi version. On it's face, a good idea, perhaps, but deliberately left open ended to add any number of persons not currently prohibited, witness the refusal of gun sales to Veterans who have requested counseling. If the grabbers have their way, that list will expand. Believe it.
4). Establish a criteria for "Sporting Purposes." this cute little catch-all ignores the fact that the Second Amendment had nothing to do with "Sporting Purposes." (This was a bone thrown to a defeated Germany after WWI, retained and modified in the Nazi version).
5). Establishes a National Registry of Firearms owners. The Nazis didn't bother with such niceties as having their version of form 4473 stay in the gun dealer's place of business, By this time, they had no need to resort to euphemisms and trickery, which is the real purpose of this ATF form, a de facto registration.
6). Restrict sale, importation and ownership of handguns. This one was a given.
As you can see, this law, which may be found in Title 18 USC, Chap.44, for those who are interested, has it's roots in Nazi Germany, implemented not for the purpose of preventing crime, but for control. Just another tool of the statists who take their cue from the novel "Animal Farm," wherein we learn that "all animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others." Although somewhat off the subject, may I point out that last year, more than 15,000 "prohibited persons" were denied purchase of firearms. Of this number, less than 100 were prosecuted, and only 20 odd were actually convicted. The Comrade-in Chief would have us believe that the solution to laws that are not enforced is to pass more laws that won't be enforced. Once again, it has nothing to do with crime control, and everything to do with people control, if you have read my posts with my admittedly amateur psychological observations about incremental erosion of freedom. Quite frankly, anyone who REALLY wants to know what the Government is really up to should read both Sun Tsu's "Art of War," and Plato's "Republic."
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May 16, 2013 09:29:45   #
shooterofgunmen Loc: Colorado
 
banjojack wrote:
This post may come in more than one installment. I will do my endeavor to cover the salient points as succinctly as possible.
For those of you curious about the title of this post, I mentioned in another firearms related topic that this one was forthcoming. It traces the history of restrictive gun control in this country back to it's origins in Nazi Germany. I intend to walk the reader through this convoluted story as unconfusingly as possible, so please bear with me.
In 1968, then president Comrade Lyndon Johnson was an ardent supporter of gun control. His partner in crime was none other than Senator Thomas Dodd, father of former Senator Chris Dodd of Fannie and Freddie and Obamacare fame. (Apparently, as you will note, the apple did not fall far from the tree, but that is another story). Senator Dodd, Sr. was a member of the commission charged with trying Nazi War Criminals. This will become germaine (no pun intended) in a moment.
Two very important catalysts occurred in 1968 to facilitate the passage of the GCA '68, those being the assassination of Martin Luther King, and the second the assassination of Robert Kennedy. (It is interesting to note that Coretta King, Dr. King's widow, became convinced that James Earl Ray was innocent, and called for re-opening the investigation. The chance of that happening apparently died with Ms. King. Concerning Sirhan Sirhan, the assassin of Robert Kennedy, he was also disposed of before he could answer any embarrassing queries.
The stage is now set. Enter LBJ, whose calls for gun control became more strident, now that he had a soapbox on which to stand, and his co-conspirator, Senator Thomas Dodd, of Nuremburg fame. On July 2, 1968, this worthy requested the Library of Congress to translate the Nazi Gun Control Act of 1938 into English. There is a copy of the affirmative reply from the Library dated July 12, 1968. This is on or about the time that deliberations on GCA'68 began.
On to the scary part; the similarities between GCA '68 and the Nazi legislation of 1938:
1). Creation of the ATF, counterpart of the Nazi SS, tasked with enforcement of firearms laws.
2). Requirement of Federal License for the business of selling firearms, same as the German version.
3). Establish a list of "Prohibited Persons," same as Nazi version. On it's face, a good idea, perhaps, but deliberately left open ended to add any number of persons not currently prohibited, witness the refusal of gun sales to Veterans who have requested counseling. If the grabbers have their way, that list will expand. Believe it.
4). Establish a criteria for "Sporting Purposes." this cute little catch-all ignores the fact that the Second Amendment had nothing to do with "Sporting Purposes." (This was a bone thrown to a defeated Germany after WWI, retained and modified in the Nazi version).
5). Establishes a National Registry of Firearms owners. The Nazis didn't bother with such niceties as having their version of form 4473 stay in the gun dealer's place of business, By this time, they had no need to resort to euphemisms and trickery, which is the real purpose of this ATF form, a de facto registration.
6). Restrict sale, importation and ownership of handguns. This one was a given.
As you can see, this law, which may be found in Title 18 USC, Chap.44, for those who are interested, has it's roots in Nazi Germany, implemented not for the purpose of preventing crime, but for control. Just another tool of the statists who take their cue from the novel "Animal Farm," wherein we learn that "all animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others." Although somewhat off the subject, may I point out that last year, more than 15,000 "prohibited persons" were denied purchase of firearms. Of this number, less than 100 were prosecuted, and only 20 odd were actually convicted. The Comrade-in Chief would have us believe that the solution to laws that are not enforced is to pass more laws that won't be enforced. Once again, it has nothing to do with crime control, and everything to do with people control, if you have read my posts with my admittedly amateur psychological observations about incremental erosion of freedom. Quite frankly, anyone who REALLY wants to know what the Government is really up to should read both Sun Tsu's "Art of War," and Plato's "Republic."
Thank You
This post may come in more than one installment. I... (show quote)


That was outstanding--thank you

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May 16, 2013 09:35:00   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
shooterofgunmen wrote:
That was outstanding--thank you


More to come, I'm having trouble finding the time to research some of this.

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May 16, 2013 09:45:00   #
shooterofgunmen Loc: Colorado
 
banjojack wrote:
More to come, I'm having trouble finding the time to research some of this.


Well Mr. Banjo you are doing a great job. Unfortunately I believe a lot of people (libs) are in the tank way toooooo deep to believe or even understand the parallel of this.

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May 16, 2013 09:51:02   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
shooterofgunmen wrote:
Well Mr. Banjo you are doing a great job. Unfortunately I believe a lot of people (libs) are in the tank way toooooo deep to believe or even understand the parallel of this.


I believe I mentioned the origin of the term "liberal" (or "progressive") democrat previously, but in case you missed it, they are called by that name because someone else was already using "clueless peckerhead."

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May 16, 2013 10:32:11   #
shooterofgunmen Loc: Colorado
 
banjojack wrote:
I believe I mentioned the origin of the term "liberal" (or "progressive") democrat previously, but in case you missed it, they are called by that name because someone else was already using "clueless peckerhead."


I can think of a few more..

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May 16, 2013 10:56:56   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
banjojack wrote:
I believe I mentioned the origin of the term "liberal" (or "progressive") democrat previously, but in case you missed it, they are called by that name because someone else was already using "clueless peckerhead."


Change "someone else" to "I," and you will see where such comments lead.

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May 16, 2013 11:35:51   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Change "someone else" to "I," and you will see where such comments lead.


Excellent! Am I to infer that you include yourself in said
Liberal, Progressive classification? If so, will you defend said position with verifiable facts, or resort to name calling and baseless, poorly thought through opinions? I welcome reasoned discussion, although there is precious little of it from the southpaw section lately, the preferred method of communication being, apparently, incoherent sentences coupled with an avalanche of mispellings. RSVP

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May 16, 2013 11:42:15   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
banjojack wrote:
More to come, I'm having trouble finding the time to research some of this.


If you would quit taking time to drink all that coffee, which leads to urgent bodily functions, you could finish your task. Put that cup down and get to work. :roll:

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May 16, 2013 12:00:17   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
banjojack wrote:
Excellent! Am I to infer that you include yourself in said
Liberal, Progressive classification? If so, will you defend said position with verifiable facts, or resort to name calling and baseless, poorly thought through opinions? I welcome reasoned discussion, although there is precious little of it from the southpaw section lately, the preferred method of communication being, apparently, incoherent sentences coupled with an avalanche of mispellings. RSVP


Your ability to infer is limited. I made no such claim.

I find name calling repugnant, often reducing a lucid discussion to mindless personal attacks. I am perfectly willing and capable of defending this, my position.

If you would like an advocate, in absence of a progressive, I can try. It will take some research on my part, but I think I can come up with some valid arguments against your stated position.

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May 16, 2013 12:03:05   #
zonkedout1 Loc: Wyoming
 
banjojack wrote:
although there is precious little of it from the southpaw section lately, RSVP


No need to attack the left handed. But in future references, maybe "the left handed path' i.e. achieving enlightenment through occult practices and hedonism and I'm sure that sinister and 'The Left" have some correlations in the ancient God 'sinestro' but please leave the left handed out of the lefist purview. The had enough troubles in the early 19th century when people decided being left handed was a telling sign of violent criminal behavior.

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May 16, 2013 12:13:29   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
zonkedout1 wrote:
No need to attack the left handed. But in future references, maybe "the left handed path' i.e. achieving enlightenment through occult practices and hedonism and I'm sure that sinister and 'The Left" have some correlations in the ancient God 'sinestro' but please leave the left handed out of the lefist purview. The had enough troubles in the early 19th century when people decided being left handed was a telling sign of violent criminal behavior.

I stand corrected, I referred to political viewpoint, not right brain dominance.

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May 16, 2013 12:24:13   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Your ability to infer is limited. I made no such claim.

I find name calling repugnant, often reducing a lucid discussion to mindless personal attacks. I am perfectly willing and capable of defending this, my position.

If you would like an advocate, in absence of a progressive, I can try. It will take some research on my part, but I think I can come up with some valid arguments against your stated position.


I look forward to it. Rational disputation results in the betterment of all parties; winning a debate with an idiot is hardly cause for celebration.
By the way, my ability to infer is less limited than you may think. Given the paucity of data, I doubt you would have done better. Inference is such a subjective process, depending as it does on the amount and accuracy of material available, and the interpretation thereof. I can further infer that this may lead to some enlightening discussion, as your repugnance at name calling apparently does not extend to the occasional egregious insult, although I must admit you accomplished it with a rather admirable turn of phrase. (Credit where due). Do your research, my interest has been piqued.

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May 16, 2013 12:47:11   #
zonkedout1 Loc: Wyoming
 
banjojack wrote:
I stand corrected, I referred to political viewpoint, not right brain dominance.


I'm sorry. I was just riffing. I forget that internet doesn't allow for tone of voice. Is there any way I can switch to Comic Sans?

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May 16, 2013 13:01:29   #
zonkedout1 Loc: Wyoming
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:


I find name calling repugnant, often reducing a lucid discussion to mindless personal attacks. I am perfectly willing and capable of defending this, my position.



Now understand this to be a crass generalization. But, I find that people who refuse to be defined are scared of attacks. As a libertarian, I've been call tea bagger, fascist, neo-con, and of course h8er by the left. By the right, I've been accused of being an unhinged drug/porn addict and other forms of hedonist outliers. Also, I'm evidently a member of the tinfoil hat crowd to some people because I'm a strong supporter of the 1st,4th and 10th amendments, which must needs be enforced by second amendment, the nuclear version of the Sword of Damocles. But, what all these things teach a person are how to buckle down and stand fast on their reason and idealism. People, when sheltered by anonymity, will always see you through a glass darkly. In real life, I respect and hold deep affections for almost every democrat I know. When I'm on the internet, democrats are the enemy of freedom pursuing a globalist agenda. They represent everything I hate. For me, on the internet, it is probably wose to be a democrat than a lib, progressive or moonbat. Much like organized anything, democrats are destructive to all the things I hold dear. i.e. privacy, prosperity, and self determination. Name calling is merely a side effect of classification, and that is something on cannot avoid. It is built into basic neurology.

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