ChJoe

So show us the parts you are referring to.

moldyoldy

I want you to do me a favor though.

Then the aid is suddenly stopped.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/4170817002

ChJoe

What page and line is that? Is aid the same as 1 billion in guaranteed loans?

moldyoldy

Purpura pointed out that Trump mentioned early in the call that the United States does more for Ukraine than other countries like Germany. Of course, there are two ways to read that: either as Trump expressing frustration that other countries weren’t doing more — or as Trump establishing that Zelensky and Ukraine must be in debt to the United States. It’s immediately after he argues that the United States does so much for Ukraine and Zelensky agrees that Trump then says, “I would like you to do us a favor


The date of the hold was originally reported as mid-July. The Washington Post reported on September 23 that at least a week before his July 25 call with Zelensky, Trump directed his acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney to withhold $400 million in military aid to Ukraine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Trump–Ukraine scandal - Wikipedia

Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich

*Demoncrats dine daily on "HYPOCRISY"...NARCISSISM...SELF INDULGENCE...SELF DECEPTION...& ABANDONMENT OF ALL THE GREAT IDEALS THAT MADE THIS COUNTRY What it has been for the last 200+ years!

Demoncrats, no longer believe in God, & Country, personal responsibility, integrity, equality among the masses...&, indeed, do everything in their power to divide, & conquer, anyone that even dares to think "Conservative"!

What I say here Is "no surprise"...it is *evident by the actions of today's *Demoncrat leadership! Corruption, & malfeasance in office...it the "fare of the day"...for Pelosi, Schumer, *Demoncrat Congress, Lamestream Media, George Soros, Al The Rat Sharpton, & so many other "Anti-Americans"...that now call themselves: Marxist, Socialist, Progressive, Communist...Just about anything but "US"...patriotic Americans, that just want freedom, & liberty!

For the over 75 Million of us....That's all we want for our children, & coming generations, to further this "Historically" greatest of all nations on this globe! { Personal integrity, love of God & Country, love of fellow man, regardless of the skin color, or religion}....."THAt's all"

Why don't the democrats, want the same thing?

moldyoldy

Give up believing all the stupid conspiracies then maybe you will see where the real problems are.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

I don't think a lot of people have common sense anymore. For example, under Trump, I didn't see a higher return at end of year, I actually was keeping almost 4000.00 more of my money a year that I wasn't paying in. Which means, I was actually seeing the money when it did the most good. That's on each paycheck, not next year for a refund. #2. I heard that call Trump had with Ukraine, over and over, he did not "demand" anything. As for implying something quid pro quo"you would need to know what's inside his head". Now I know the left thinks they know what's in other peoples head, but what's in the left's head is what they are themselves. That's how the human works, we see things from our own experiences and perspectives. Therefore if you find it easy to lie and cheat, you will assume everybody else does. That's the left, take example Biden having a history and still making racist remarks but accusing the other side of being racist.

ChJoe

Good comment and spot on. The dem's whistleblower, Vindman, claims he heard Trump demand that the president do an investigation into the Biden's. No one else who actually heard the call live, made that claim. Vindman said it was taken out of the transcript. He was shunned by his military buddies. His brother also worked at the White House in a role of one who reviews releases and redacts that which he perceives to be classified. Very convenient for a groups out to oust a sitting president.

ChJoe

I hardly feel the need to respond to this. The hold was for legitimate reasons, to review the accounting of the money to be used for weapons, if memory serves.

I mean, heck Moldy, you still lie about the "Muslim" ban, which never happened.

moldyoldy

What's being called a transcript of the controversial phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky isn't really a full transcript. And it's not clear if a complete one even exists.

The White House acknowledged that the five-page "unredacted" memo released Wednesday is not a verbatim record of the conversation between the two leaders July 25, which has become central to the impeachment inquiry against Mr. Trump. Instead, it is based on notes and recollections from Situation Room officers and National Security Council staff, who are assigned to listen to and document presidential conversations.

Trump people get to edit as they see fit.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-transcript-why-memo-of-president-donald-trump-ukraine-call-isnt-complete-transcript-2019-09-25/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/us/politics/alexander-vindman-trump-ukraine.amp.html

American Vet

So there is no evidence of wrong-doing.

Thank you for clearing that up.

ChJoe

Your sources are so weak. The unredacted and complete version was available ro full review by any member of Congress as is most things of this nature. Those reviewing the materials were not allowed to photograph it or get personal copies of this type of materials. As far as I can remember, there were some 30 - 40 repugs who went and reviewed it but not a single democrat. Not one.

Army

moldyoldy

The transcripts of everyone on the call are still available. We only got the trump version.

ChJoe

They are all the same; they read the transcript ans signed off on it, not to mention the verbatum transcript, all open for review by any member of Congress anytime. Always has been.