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For more, see Part II:

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Kevin's Favorites · December 25
The Election Fraud Fraud - Part II
My original article has been updated so many times that it has grown unmanageably large, so it’s time to start a new chapter. 205,000 more votes than voters in Pennsylvania President Trump tweeted this story based on a report from some Republican Pennsylvania legislators. Their claim is that the total number of certified votes in the 2020 presidential election exceeds the number of individuals in the secretary of state’s Statewide Uniform Registry of Electors (SURE) database. Trump inflated the number by a couple of thousand, but that’s largely beside the point. The claim is actually true, but it doesn’t mean what it appears to mean on the surface. Elections are administered by counties in the United States, and the certified popular vote totals from the counties are added up at the state level and certified. In addition those who vote are recorded in county election databases and reported to the state, that then updates the SURE database. The issue here is that there is a delay in updating SURE, and it doesn’t have all the voter records updated yet. I purchased a copy of SURE from Pennsylvania, current as of 12/28/2020. You can see some of the data files from Pennsylvania’s 67 counties here: What I found by looking at record update dates, is that the process of updating the state SURE database is ongoing (the second column is the number of records with that date): So the claim is invalid because it uses incomplete data. Based on my data, the number has already decreased to 132,270: Georgia election chief Raffensperger’s Chinese connection? Hundreds of thousands of ballots out of nowhere in Pennsylvania One of the recurring themes in election fraud stories is numbers that just don’t add up. We saw this when turnout numbers confused counties in Minnesota with ones in Michigan. These are long debunked, but even today (December 26, 2020) some are still repeated, for example, in this Quora comment: Joe Biden is too stupid to commit voter fraud without assistance. I do wonder how in Pennsylvania how they sent 1.8 million mail in ballots and somehow received 2.5 million. But hey, the twitter tells you what’s real and what’s “disputed.” If indeed Pennsylvania had sent out 1.8 million absentee ballots, and gotten 2.5 million back, that would be a big deal and (reality check) something that would be front and center in the president’s fraud claims, but it isn’t. The reason is that the first number is ballots sent out in the primary election, and the second is ballots received in the general election. Pennsylvania did not have hundreds of thousands of phantom absentee ballots Arizona good to go The certified testing laboratory Pro V&V has completed its audit of Dominion Voting Systems machines in Maricopa County, Arizona. The machines were accurate and not tampered with. The were also not connected to the internet. Sidney Powell’s fake witness In the original Election Fraud Fraud, I talked about Sidney Powell’s secret witness, code named “Spyder,” whose identity was redacted for his own protection, Joshua Merritt. Reports say that Merritt has gone into hiding as the result of his name being disclosed, and his fake credentials as a military intelligence analyst exposed. Now, the Washington Post reports that a second secret witness for Powell, has been convicted of using false credentials to get charitable contributions, and is a follower of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory. The Washington Post goes into the details of her deceptions: Sidney Powell’s secret intelligence contractor witness is a pro-Trump podcaster
https://www.quora.com/q/dyjszvhimzlkzsom/The-Election-Fraud-Fraud-Part-II
I did a Google search for the phrase, “Trump said without evidence” and got 185,000 results, the first saying, “Trump, without evidence, says. ‘If you count the legal votes, I win easily.’” People on the internet say the evidence is massive, widespread, and increasing daily. I’m putting on my critical thinking cap, and looking for it.

The 68% solution

Blame the popularity of this one on President Trump who even after the electoral college vote on December 14, continues to rant and whine on Twitter, including a reference to a questionable report on Dominion voting systems in Antrim County in Michigan. I wrote about this elsewhere.

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Kevin Davidson · Updated December 18
What's your reaction to Trump's tweet of 12/15/20 "68% error rate in Michigan voting machines. Takes a landslide victory and reduces it to a tight loss!"?
was referring to this story: Forensic auditors find shocking 68% error rate in one Michigan county’s votes in the Washington Times. And it is based on a “questionable” report from a company hired by pro-Trump litigants. “Forensic report” is one of those shiny objects that dazzle conspiracy theorists and make BS seem credible. (The birthers used it a lot too.) This is the same outfit that said there was a 120%, 150% and 300% turnout in some counties by comparing voters in Minnesota with ballots in Michigan. Oops. Update: A hand recount in Antrim County, the subject of the report, found the total off by 12 votes. See: * State, company officials dispute report claiming Antrim County tabulators bungled results * Michigan election officials slam report on votes in Antrim County * Misinformation campaign concerning Antrim County expected to continue * State officials dispute conclusion from newly-released audit of Antrim County voting results * Analysis of Antrim County Ballot Machines Made Public - 9 & 10 News * Election 2020: Setting the Record Straight - Dominion Voting Systems
And the interested reader can follow the links at the end of that answer or read the response from the Michigan Secretary of State and Attorney General.

Over the years when I have found what looks like bad information coming from multiple sources, sometimes it’s just one source dressed up in different ways.

The unsigned report from Allied Special Operations Group that makes these allegations doesn’t mention even an author’s name, making examination of credentials impossible. But Sidney Powell used a code-named source in her #Kraken lawsuits called Spyder, who was supposedly a military intelligence expert — but he’s not. He’s an IT consultant who was a wheeled vehicle mechanic in the Army. Powell tried to keep his name under seal to protect him, she said. But aside from having no military intelligence credentials, he’s on the management team of, wait for it, Allied Special Operations Group. So the faux forensic audit in the Michigan lawsuit comes from the same management team as the faux military intelligence team as the super secret allegations in the #Kraken lawsuits (see more on those below).[1]

Update: A hand recount of the results in Antrim County confirmed the machine totals. Is anybody surprised?

Antrim County hand tally affirms certified election results
Antrim County audit confirms there were no errors with tabulators that counted ballots.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/12/17/antrim-county-hand-tally-certified-election-results/3937898001/
CIA raids servers in Germany

This is an old one, claiming that the CIA had raided a data center in Germany and confiscated election tabulation servers. Elections in the US are run by the states, not the election companies, and the servers in question never existed. That one is debunked by the Associated Press, among others.

Sidney Powell releases the #Kraken

This is a massive 104-page lawsuit filed with a misspelled federal court in Georgia. It alleges that voting machines in Georgia were manipulated to give Biden the win, and at the same time, election workers all over the state were slipping Trump votes in the Biden pile in hand recounts, and magically the numbers between the two match! The Kraken is really too large to digest at one time. The interested reader can tackle it themself.

Versions of the #Kraken were filed in 4 states. It was dismissed in Michigan, federal judge Parker saying:

In fact, this lawsuit seems to be less about achieving the relief Plaintiffs seek—as much of that relief is beyond the power of this Court—and more about the impact of their allegations on People’s faith in the democratic process and their trust in our government.[2]

Powell’s “experts” got a critical review from the defense in Georgia.[3]

Update: All 4 Kraken lawsuits (Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and Arizona) have now lost.

It’s a plot!

This is an old one, but one I never really paid attention to. It’s one of those statistical anomaly things.

The graph shows that as the votes are counted, Trump seems to be doing worse and worse in comparison to how other members of his party are doing. Are votes being flipped? If so, you would expect Biden votes to be going up, but they actually go down in an almost identical pattern. Check out this entertaining video about alleged mathematical anomalies in the 2020 election.

Binders full of affidavits

“Hundreds of affidavits” of fraud allegedly exist, although most who believe this, and most who discount it have probably never read one of them. Judge Kenny in Michigan read some of them, and addressed six of them in his Opinion and Order. Read the 4-page opinion to understand better why these affidavits don’t prove election fraud.

Costantino Et Al v Wayne BOC Et Al Opinion & Order
Opinion and Order
https://www.scribd.com/document/484166784/Costantino-Et-Al-v-Wayne-BOC-Et-Al-Opinion-Order#fullscreen&from_embed
Suitcases under the table

People are strongly convinced by what they can see for themselves, but easily fooled when someone tells them what they are looking at as they watch it. That’s the case with a video from Atlanta where workers removed bins of ballots from storage and counted them. Calling a bin a “suitcase” adds to the deception.

Where the fraud comes in is that the video is fake, or more accurately it was deceptively edited, because in the full version, workers can be seen putting uncounted ballots into bins, in full sight of everyone, and storing them under the table for the night, only to learn that they had to stay and finish counting them, so they took them back out. Processing ballots from bins is what they get paid to do, but an innuendo-filled voice overlay makes the viewer interpret it as fraud, and then they believe that they have seen evidence of fraud with their own eyes. Here’s the debunking on that one:

Fact Check: Video From Georgia Does NOT Show Suitcases Filled With Ballots Suspiciously Pulled From Under A Table; Poll Watchers Were NOT Told To Leave | Lead Stories
By Alan Duke and Hallie Golden Does security camera video show a Fulton County, Georgia, election supervisor suspiciously pulling suitcases...
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/12/fact-check-video-from-ga-does-not-show-suitcases-filled-with-ballots-pulled-from-under-a-table-after-poll-workers-dismissed.html
And the story about the water leak involves more deceptive editing.

Tracking Viral Misinformation
May 7, 2021, 5:55 p.m. ET May 7, 2021, 5:55 p.m. ET Videos by Associated Press and Reuters For months, popular social media posts have cited an unverified national health database to falsely suggest that Covid-19 vaccines have caused thousands of deaths, possibly even more than the virus itself. These claims have been repeatedly debunked . But they remain in circulation as prominent public figures like the Fox News host Tucker Carlson continue to promote them. “Between late December of 2020 and last month, a total of 3,362 people apparently died after getting the Covid vaccine in the United States,” Mr. Carlson said on his show on Wednesday, citing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS. “That’s an average of roughly 30 people every day. The actual number is almost certainly higher than that, perhaps vastly higher than that.” But, as the federal Department of Health and Human Services notes in a disclaimer on its website, the database relies on self-reporting, and its reports may include unverified information. “VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness,” the disclaimer reads . “The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases.” When the C.D.C. examined VAERS reports on Covid-19 vaccines administered from Dec. 14 to May 3, it found 4,178 reports of deaths among people who had received one. The agency noted, however, that “a review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy and medical records, has not established a causal link to Covid-19 vaccines.” Reports have indicated a “plausible causal relationship” between Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine and a rare blood clotting disorder, according to the C.D.C. Three people who had received that vaccine and developed the blood clot illness died, according to a separate C.D.C. study . Experts emphasized that the database was a useful tool to flag early warning signs for vaccine safety, but that it was not a replacement for studies on the effects of vaccines or actively monitoring side effects. “It’s a big net to catch everything, not a way of evaluating what problems are actually caused by vaccines,” said Anna Kirkland, a professor at the University of Michigan and the author of a recent book on vaccine injury claims. “‘Died after getting a vaccine’ could mean you died in a car accident, you died of another disease you already had or anything else.” Professor Kirkland also warned that lawyers and activists who wanted to make vaccines look more dangerous filed reports to the database and then cited those reports as evidence of danger. Laura Scherer, a professor at the University of Colorado School of Medicine and the author of a study on the database and the HPV vaccine , called Mr. Carlson’s claim “a gross misuse of VA
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/2020-election-misinformation-distortions#suitcases-ballots-georgia-election
Voting machine out in left field — sorry, that should be “voting machine left out in field.”

This one was sort of fun. Someone found a voting machine in a field near Savannah, Georgia.


My guess is that it wasn’t “found” but put there deliberately and photographed to try to push a fraud meme. It certainly had its Twitter moment. In fact, the machine is obsolete and not one used in the 2020 election.[4]

Ninety-nine sworn affidavits on the wall, take one down, pass it around…

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Part 2

Ninety-nine sworn affidavits on the wall, take one down, pass it around…

One of the more specific claims, something that looks like evidence, is that many sworn affidavits from election watchers allege irregularities. I looked at one account of this from Georgia reported by the right-wing junk news[5] website, Epoch Times. The watcher said that mail ballots appeared not to be folded, and in fact the bubbles were so perfectly marked that it looked like they were printed by a machine. It’s rather obvious what happened: Georgia’s in person voting is done with a touch screen that then prints the voter’s selection on a paper ballot, and they indeed are perfectly filled bubbles. The election watcher just didn’t understand what he was looking at.

Now the Trump campaign in Michigan has presented in court over 100 sworn affidavits. The Detroit Free Press, known for factual reporting,[6] says:

Signed and sworn statements from more than 100 people included in a new lawsuit filed in a Michigan federal court by the campaign of President Donald Trump allege misconduct in the processing and counting of ballots in Detroit.

Some claimed that they were denied access to watch counting because they were told to stand six feet back due to COVID-19 precautions. They claimed they were barred from a room, that the Free Press documented already had 134 watchers in it. One swore that some in the room wore Black Lives Matter t-shirts and one watcher allegedly was called a “Karen.” Another said they saw a ballot for Trump opened by a worker who then “rolled his eyes,” I suppose in an obvious attempt to change the mark to Biden through “deep state” necromancy, although the watcher did not say the vote actually changed. What seems odd is that these watchers didn’t complain at the time when they thought they saw something irregular. Another account said that many of the watchers did not attend a required training session on their role and what to look for. I suggest reading the footnoted Detroit Free Press article for a great deal more detail.

A Michigan state judge “struck down Republican election observers’ allegations of impropriety and voter fraud as ‘incorrect and not credible’ speculation not backed up by evidence.”[7]

The Texas social worker

The Secretary of State of Texas put out a big news story about a social worker at a care facility who has been charged with filling out voter registration applications in the name of some sixty odd people who did not request assistance, some of whom are legally incompetent. This is a real charge, although not yet proven. We do not know whether the social worker is a Democrat or a Republican. While this is a real criminal charge, it doesn’t change any votes, and for what it’s worth, the social worker maintains her innocence.

Voter Fraud

There is one case of voter fraud for 2020 reported in the press so far where an arrest was made. A Pennsylvania man attempted to vote in the name of his deceased mother. The man was a registered Republican.

Supercomputer is changing votes

The current story is, according to Snopes:

A supercomputer called "Hammer" and a software program called "Scorecard" are being used to alter vote counts in the U.S. presidential election of 2020.[8]

Snopes says it’s false.

[OK, this is getting weird. I was on the Wikipedia article on Dominion Voting Systems, and stumbled on a paragraph about this:

In a related hoax, Dennis Montgomery, a software designer with a history of making dubious claims, asserted that a government supercomputer program was used to switch votes from Trump to Biden on voting machines.

Dennis Montgomery, aka “The Man Who Hoaxed the Pentagon,” is someone well known to me as a supplier of “junk” information to birther sheriff Joe Arpaio. Deja vu for sure.

Former U. S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security chief Chris Krebs called the story “nonsense.”[9]

Dead voters

Voter fraud has been around since the beginning of the country, and people have voted in the name of deceased individuals, but it’s fairly uncommon now. Some may find this report of the investigation into dead voters in South Carolina instructive on what errors lead to the mistaken idea that the dead had voted. The current fraud claim is that dead voters voted in Michigan, despite Halloween being 3 days before the election. The Michigan case is the same as in South Carolina — a poll worker mistakenly checking in the living son who shares the name of his deceased father.[10] See also from the U. S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency:

Rumor Control | CISA
Mis- and disinformation can undermine public confidence in the electoral process, as well as in our democracy. Elections are administered by state and local officials who implement numerous safeguards to protect the security of your vote pursuant to various state and federal laws and processes. This resource is designed to debunk common misinformation and disinformation narratives and themes that relate broadly to the security of election infrastructure and related processes. It is not intended to address jurisdiction-specific claims. Instead, this resource addresses election security rumors by describing common and generally applicable protective processes, security measures, and legal requirements designed to protect against or detect large-scale security issues related to election infrastructure and processes. You can learn more about mis- and disinformation from CISA’s Countering Foreign Influence Task Force . Click an icon below to go directly to that section. New Reality: Ballot handling procedures protect against intentional or unintentional ballot destruction. Rumor: Ballots can easily be destroyed without detection, preventing them from being counted. Get the Facts: States have ballot processing and tabulation safeguards designed to ensure each ballot cast in the election can be correctly counted. State procedures often include robust chain-of-custody procedures, auditable logging requirements, and canvass processes. Election officials use these security measure to check that votes are accurately accounted for during processing and counting. Per federal law, all ballots, applications, and registrations related to elections for federal offices, such as those for President and Vice President, Members of the U.S. Senate or House of Representatives, must be retained and preserved for 22 months from the date of the election. In addition, many states also require specific state and local security protocols for stored ballots, such as storage in a secure vault featuring double lock systems that can only be opened when authorized representatives from both political parties are present. This requirement is intended to ensure all ballots and relevant records, such as voter registrations, cannot be discarded, but are available in case they are needed for recounts or audits to resolve any potential issues. Election officials, based on state and local law, may discard non-relevant materials, such as addressed envelopes or duplicate applications. Taken out of context, images or video of election officials discarding papers may appear suspicious , but are likely depicting legal discarding of these non-relevant election materials. Useful Sources: Reality: Voting systems undergo testing from state and/or federal voting system testing programs, which certify voting system hardware and software. Rumor: Voting system software is not reviewed or tested and can be easily manipulated. Get the Facts: Before use in elections, voting systems undergo hardware and
https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol#rumor21
The walking dead

President Trump’s campaign tweeted the names four voters in Georgia who they say were long deceased. A local news station found two of them[11] still alive and kicking, and the station is chasing down the other two.

Georgia has more recently reported that they have investigated all of the “dead voter” cases and found all but two of them to be untrue, and the remaining two are still under investigation. Dead voters are usually clerical errors where the poll worker checks in the wrong person.

The glitch that stole the election

Workers in one Michigan county failed to install a software update that resulted in an erroneous preliminary count. Election officials noticed the problem and it was fixed. The human error was limited to one county in Michigan, not all 83 counties, and not across the country. The fact that it was quickly caught proves that election officials in Michigan are checking and cross checking things.[12]

And while we’re glitching, there was a software problem in Georgia that crashed some voting machines, but it didn’t affect any totals. The internet says, without evidence, there are glitches all over the country. Georgia hired an independent certified voting security company to audit the Dominion machines, and they found them OK.

Benford’s Law

Benford’s Law is a property of large numbers of samples from a normal distribution. It says, for example, that you would expect the leading digit to be “1” about 30% of the time. It has been used to detect fraudulent data. Claims appear on the internet that say vote counts in various localities in 2020 violate Benford’s Law. The fallacy here is that Benford’s Law only works when the sample is unbiased, which is not the case with election data because the size of the precinct limits the possible first digits in vote totals. For example, my precinct had 822 votes, and there’s basically no chance that either Trump or Biden would have a count starting with a 1.

A real political scientist looked at the claims and found them not valid.[13]

Comment from David Massie to this Post:

To be accurate the other big reason Benford’s law does not apply because it requires the numbers to spread over several orders of Magnitude to get to that percentage of 1s. Almost every precinct having under total 1000 votes means it definitely shouldn’t apply.

Anonymous “Data scientist”

And then there is the tweet of someone who received a report from an anonymous person forwarding a report by an anonymous “data scientist” who said the data in several states in 2020 is anomalous.[14] There are charts and graphs galore, along with boldface assertions (do real scientists use boldface?), but there’s no math or science in the report, just “here is a graph, look at it, let me suggest that it’s not right.” It looks totally amateurish to me.

A real statistician might have more to say, but my objection to this presentation is that it ignores the fact that election data arrives in clumps from different parts of a state, that there will often be a divide where early results come from counties with one characteristic (urban/rural) and later results from another and that votes by mail are different in most states from votes on person. A real scientist doesn’t just argue for a hypothesis, but also examines and argues to exclude alternative explanations, which this report does not. It’s not science.

Anonymous poll worker in Nevada

“Do you, Anonymous, swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?” OK, so this alleged poll worker claims that she saw election fraud outside a Nevada polling place all out in the open and labeled, but ignored her duty as an election official to report the misconduct, appears anonymously in disguise on a right-wing TV segment, and we’re supposed to believe it? She even claimed to be wearing a “uniform” which poll workers do not do. Was an affidavit really submitted to the Department of Justice? Inquiring minds want to know.[15]

Pennsylvania backdated postmarks

A Pennsylvania postal worker, Richard Hopkins, signed a sworn affidavit saying that a postmaster in Erie, PA, ordered backdated postmarks on ballots. Mr. Hopkins subsequently took it all back, and recanted his statement. So was he lying then or lying now?

The accused postmaster responded:

The Erie postmaster, Rob Weisenbach, denied the allegations as 100% false and said the claims were made "by an employee that was recently disciplined multiple times."

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https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/11/10/Pennsylvania-postal-worker-recants-allegations-of-ballot-tampering/6511605053437/
Not too sharpie

Some claims circulated that votes marked with a sharpie don’t count in Arizona. It’s not true with a correctly designed ballot, which the ones in Arizona were.


127,000 votes appear out of the blue (pun intended) for Biden in Michigan.

This was a data entry error when updating a graphic used in election night coverage. It wasn’t actually what Michigan tabulated. When the error was noticed, it was fixed.

More votes than voters

This one is all over the Internet, and like rumors, the story changes with each retelling. Originally it was told about Wisconsin, where it was said that about 100,000 more votes were counted than registered voters. This was indeed fraud, fraud on the part of the one telling the story because the registered voter number they used was fake, about half a million smaller than the real number of 3,684,726.

The question was resurrected on Quora about Michigan, claiming that 8.1 million voted in Michigan but only 7.8 million are registered. In fact, Michigan only had 5,538,212 votes for President in 2020 and 8,133,273 are registered.

Version 2 of this claim said that some precincts in Michigan had more votes than registered voters. Michigan, and other states, don’t send absentee ballots back to the precincts where the voter is registered, but rather to what they call Absent Voter Counting Boards. There are 134 of them in Detroit. None of these have any registered voters since all they do is count batches of absentee ballots from the precincts where the voters are actually registered, so all of them will have more votes counted than registered voters.


Election watchers barred in Pennsylvania

It’s true that many Republican election watchers were barred from watching the processing in Pennsylvania, because the processing rooms were already full of Republican election watchers.

This type of allegation was repeated in a Trump lawsuit in Michigan that watchers were excluded from a room that already had 134 watchers in it.

Non resident voters in Nevada

Sometimes people who have recently moved from a state vote in their former state. That’s probably not legal. Three thousand of them, allegedly, moved from Nevada. Many of them were military service members, legally entitled to vote in Nevada. As for the rest, there is no way to know how many or who they voted for.[16]I claim, without evidence, that all these illegal votes were

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Wonttakeitanymore

Do u have a stutter? It was fraud!

moldyoldy

Fraud on trumps part. He always makes those claims in case he loses.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/20/tweets/yes-donald-trump-claimed-fraud-after-2016-iowa-cau/


https://www.fox23.com/news/politics/jamie-dupree/empty-claims-voter-fraud-nothing-new-trump/S6MZI6GVHZAHDNQOA7T272RNT4/?outputType=amp

Kevyn

The audacity of the Cheeto Faced Shitgibbon spoon feeding his death cult of cool aid guzzling trumpanzees this outrageous obvious lie is pathetic. What is sadder is the fact that so many Americans are ignorant enough to accept the lie.

WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX

I wish you would stop repeating the cheeto faced Shiitegibbon...... everytime I read it, it causes me to think of and picture moochelle o bami.

At this point, I don't care whether the swimmer loving leftists cheated or not. Nothing will change, until the next election, when you will get yerself a collective "hot lunch."

MAGA Baby!!! The greatest ever, major league, sick of winning!!!

victor doherty

you think you be sick of losing

WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX

I'm/we're winning. I'm sitting back watching the left slowly but surely destroy itself through a myriad of indefensible, illogical policies carried out by the person behind the curtain.

victor doherty

ok oz's you're not a good joke writer,and when your writing don't do it in front of a mirror

WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX

Nice English pin head.

MAGA!

moldyoldy

WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX

Those other people are liars mommy!

My dog ate my homework.

ImLogicallyRight

***The audacity of the Cheeto Faced Shitgibbon spoon feeding his death cult of cool aid guzzling trumpanzees this outrageous obvious lie is pathetic. What is sadder is the fact that so many Americans are ignorant enough to accept the lie.

The audacity of the Senile Shitgibbon's handlers, spoon feeding their bull schitte of cool aid guzzling bidenpansies this outrageous obvious lie is pathetic. What is sadder is the fact that so many Americans are ignorant enough to accept the lie.

Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle

No what's really sad is states like Pennsylvania are so full of ignorant people, they don't realize that their election rules were un constitutionally changed by executive order.
Pennsylvania's results will always be in question.
...and even the French know mail =fraud.
So you vote in person with ID.
What is so hard for you to understand about this?
Ohhh...because you're the cheaters...

fullspinzoo

What a waste of time. For anybody to think "not too bright" SloJoe got 6 million more votes than the historic first black president is laughable....and better yet, beyond ludicrous. 80 million votes? At some point, it gets Disneylandish. Come on, man!!!