The Suez Canal remains blocked. Why should you care ? I blame President Biden and Vice President Harris. It happened while they were in office, so by the rules applied to the Trump...

son of witless

I blame President Biden and Vice President Harris. It happened while they were in office, so by the rules applied to the Trump Presidency, it is their fault.

Oil cannot get to Europe as easily now. I thought Europe was all green. So this is probably a good thing. They will not burn as much evil oil. Between that and the Corona Virus, Mother Earth is breathing a little better now.

https://www.cnet.com/news/suez-canal-block-continues-why-thats-important-everywhere/

Carol Kelly

son of witless wrote:

I blame President Biden and Vice President Harris. It happened while they were in office, so by the rules applied to the Trump Presidency, it is their fault.

Oil cannot get to Europe as easily now. I thought Europe was all green. So this is probably a good thing. They will not burn as much evil oil. Between that and the Corona Virus, Mother Earth is breathing a little better now.

https://www.cnet.com/news/suez-canal-block-continues-why-thats-important-everywhere/

Their fault indeed. I wholly agree.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

son of witless wrote:

I blame President Biden and Vice President Harris. It happened while they were in office, so by the rules applied to the Trump Presidency, it is their fault.

Oil cannot get to Europe as easily now. I thought Europe was all green. So this is probably a good thing. They will not burn as much evil oil. Between that and the Corona Virus, Mother Earth is breathing a little better now.

https://www.cnet.com/news/suez-canal-block-continues-why-thats-important-everywhere/

This picture speaks volumes son~~~Who the hell are these people running the place anyway??? Lolol

peg w

The container ship ran aground in 30 knot winds.Breezey, but not that strong.I bet all those containers acted like a sail.
So fill your gas tanks up, because gas prices will go up, even if we don't get much oil from the middle easr anymore.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

lindajoy wrote:

This picture speaks volumes son~~~Who the hell are these people running the place anyway??? Lolol

How big is too big ?

amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle

lindajoy wrote:

This picture speaks volumes son~~~Who the hell are these people running the place anyway??? Lolol

I think they need a bigger dozer.

son of witless

lindajoy wrote:

This picture speaks volumes son~~~Who the hell are these people running the place anyway??? Lolol

I don't know, but it is a crisis. This looks like a job for - - - - - - - - - - - - Camel-A Harris Super Woman. Uncle Joe put her in charge of that little border thingy. She should have that cleared up in a day or two. Then I am sure Camel-A can board her broom and in no time at all she will instruct those engineers how to unstick this container boat and get those containers floating again.

ChJoe

A long time ago Jimmy Carter declared that an open Suez Canal was a matter of national security. Do we still have an obligation?

skyrider

lindajoy wrote:

This picture speaks volumes son~~~Who the hell are these people running the place anyway??? Lolol

This incident was caused by a confluence of events that should have been anticipated by the crew but was not.
Poor WRM (wheelhouse resource management) which is the same concept as poor CRM (cockpit resource management) is the culprit, as in most Maritime and Aviation accidents.
The "sail" area of this ship including freeboard and stacked containers was about 191,000 sq. ft. (18,000 S.M.).
With the 40 knot cross wind component the bow and stern thrusters were totally overwhelmed by the weathervane
effect of the wind. That event was exacerbated by the ship being closer to one canal bank than the other. That produced the effect of a lower pressure in the water due to it having to move faster than the water in the wider side of the canal. Similar to producing lift on an airplane wing this produced a pulling effect on the ship which aided the cross wind effect but in this case with horizontal "lift".
If this potential was recognized, as it would have been with proper WMR, the result could have been prevented by having enough Tug Boats in place.

ChJoe

skyrider wrote:

This incident was caused by a confluence of events... (show quote)

Either way, they F'ed Up, big time.

son of witless

skyrider wrote:

This incident was caused by a confluence of events... (show quote)

I am sure that there are all kinds of terrorists right now looking at this and saying to themselves, " if only we could have pulled this off. " Which goes to show you that incompetence is generally far more dangerous than the actual bad guys. Think Chernobyl. The biggest nuclear disaster in history was incompetence, not terrorism. Or the BP Gulf Oil spill. Think Titanic. No terrorists can compete with incompetence.

skyrider

son of witless wrote:

I am sure that there are all kinds of terrorists right now looking at this and saying to themselves, " if only we could have pulled this off. " Which goes to show you that incompetence is generally far more dangerous than the actual bad guys. Think Chernobyl. The biggest nuclear disaster in history was incompetence, not terrorism. Or the BP Gulf Oil spill. Think Titanic. No terrorists can compete with incompetence.

For a real eye opener, think about the incompetence of the U.S. Government.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Milosia2 wrote:

How big is too big ?

I’m not real sure but I think we’re looking at it right here, LOL LOL😱

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

amadjuster wrote:

I think they need a bigger dozer.

Right, a few hundred of them along with some tugboat to try to pull it out big big tugboat. I just wonder how deeply in bedded in the muck it is

son of witless

lindajoy wrote:

I’m not real sure but I think we’re looking at it right here, LOL LOL😱

I am sure new rules will go into effect after this to stop another recurrence. When lives or $ Billions are lost safety measures suddenly explode.